Muslims think its ok to marry a girl pre age 10?

[bparker]

I didnt know muslims belived it was ok for an older man to marry pre-puberty girls? We got any muslims on board that can confirm this?

Listen to this guy preach in a mosque in England

its more towards the end of the first vid
http://www.shinesforall.com/2007/01/video_dispatche.html

[DDWH]

nice...I thought their preference was towards camels and male on male...

[DennisAJC]

That's some disturbing stuff. Especially their belief that women are made deficient and should be ruled by man.

That's some bad teachings.


Can't wait for the USA to have a woman President.:beerchug:

[DRTYFN]

They also believe it's ok to engage in homosexual acts with each other and to fornicate with farm animals. But don't draw a caricature of Muhammed or they'll RAARRR!!!!! Dipsh*ts.:rolleyes: Glass parking lot - DO NOW!!!!

[NewHummerGuy]

And the sad thing is Minnesota elected one of "their" believers/followers to a US office.:mad: :mad: :mad:

You know what, what that guy said is right. A change is fastly approaching. And its gonna be the United States fault for letting it happen. These people are INSANE and cannot be dealt with in a normal way.:mad: :mad: :mad:

[NewHummerGuy]

So did Illinois and he's likely to make a run for President ;)

We are officially screwed as a country. Momentum for them is gaining and will soon be a freight train out of control.

In 10 years suicide bombings will be commonplace in every suburban mall across the contry. I hope I am wrong but damn seems like we are well on our way.:mad:


And let me please add I have several friends who are Muslim. Well not several but some. There are varying variations of Muslim beliefs as to exactly what the Qurans teachings are. Much like how Christians have varying belief levels. The only difference is that the hardcore Christian isnt going to try and blow folks up (whoops, actually I guess they do. Abortion clinics come to mind).


Screwed we are I tell you.....SCREWED

[h2co-pilot]

Skeery:mad:


Gawd that religion is filled with so much hate. Why is our society (US/UK) so politically correct? It has come to nice = putting us in danger.

As a female, I want to go find that mosque and wait outside for those fukkers. Scantily clad, of course.:D Grab them by their dirty curry smelling sheets and show them what pain and an emotional beat down is.

A girl's life would be ruined if married that young and that's why they do it. I knew they were cowards but not so much that they are scared of their own women. I am especially disturbed that this goes on in a democratic society.:rant:

[NewHummerGuy]

"It has come to nice = putting us in danger."


and when are we as a country going to realize this??????? Its time to put americans FIRST. Stop with the PC horseshlt and start treating these radicals like they are. ANIMALS

[h2co-pilot]

Here is the link to Green Lane Mosque's site:

http://www.greenlanemasjid.org/

They talk about the undercover operation:

This so-called ‘undercover’ investigation merely panders to age-old anti-Muslim prejudices by employing the time-honoured tradition of cherry picking statements and presenting them in the most inflammatory manner.


I haven't read the whole thing. I hope they have a message board.:D

[h2co-pilot]

I 'contacted' them.:D

Cherry picking statements? Please. Everyone is watching now. You preach hate and beat down your women emotionally and physically- COWARDS. Sick turds ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Shame on you.

Thank you for submitting your enquiry. We shall be in contact with you in due course Insha-Allah.

You're welcome.:giggling:

[NewHummerGuy]

I 'contacted' them.:D








You're welcome.:giggling:




"Insha-Allah"

God bless you:jump:

[wpage]

Followers of darkness. Haters of women and non muslims:twak:

[BlueHUMMERH2]

There are a lot of Abu-Dhabi types around here. The liberal hippies are overly accepting to any evil force, but when it comes to Hummers, they'd probably lynch me if they had the chance. But this school is starting to become more and more diverse, and in ways that make me uncomfortable. I should do some field reporting. There is a Communist Club, and there is also some sort of Islamic club. I'll have to see if I can find some of their literature, or spy on one of their events. I found the communist newspaper some time ago. That was hilarious! :D

[ree]

And the sad thing is Minnesota elected one of "their" believers/followers to a US office.:mad: :mad: :mad:
Correction: Minnesota didn't elect him.:mad: Minnesota's 5th congressional district did (that's here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota%27s_5th_congressional_district)). That's where the majority of MN's losers live. There are lot of wank losers elsewhere in the state, but that district is the worst.

[NewHummerGuy]

Correction: Minnesota didn't elect him.:mad: Minnesota's 5th congressional district did (that's here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota%27s_5th_congressional_district)). That's where the majority of MN's losers live. There are lot of wank losers elsewhere in the state, but that district is the worst.


"It was created in 1883 and was named the "Bloody Fifth" on account of the first election"


Sounds like history may repeat itself:(

[MarineHawk]

So did Illinois and he's likely to make a run for President ;)

Do you mean "Osama bin -- Osama Obama -- Obama"? http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A4354-2005Jan12?language=printer

[frenzy1]

MUSLIMS ARE A WEIRD BREED APART !!!!!:fdance:

[frenzy1]

ps :

that's the only muslims I like !

http://img-x.fotocommunity.com/83/444283.jpg

http://img-x.fotocommunity.com/77/444277.jpg

Frenzy:beerchug: :fdance: :OWNED:

[MarineHawk]

That's the one, Barack Hussein Obama Jr.

No fcukin' way!!! I had no idea that was his middle name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

That's great! The Dems will be running a Clinton and a Hussein in '08.

[MarineHawk]

I suspect he doesn't publicize his middle name that much.

Nor does the New York Times. Perhaps Hillary will slip a few times and mention it by accident during the primaries.

[KenP]

And the sad thing is Minnesota elected one of "their" believers/followers to a US office.:mad: :mad: :mad:

You know what, what that guy said is right. A change is fastly approaching. And its gonna be the United States fault for letting it happen. These people are INSANE and cannot be dealt with in a normal way.:mad: :mad: :mad:You are a true believer, my friend. I hate those fuks!!!

[DennisAJC]

Time fo sum Muslim Wimmin Liberatshuun!!!!!! :D



But let's not get too paranoid by PROPAGANDA. These are radical teachings of bitter rejects of an otherwise peaceful religion.

They are the KKK/Aryan Nation equivanent of the muslim faith.

The mutual hate being expressed by both sides is pretty much balanced. I'm sure good law abiding muslims reading some of the replies here like, "Kill all the sand kneegrows." will just be as shocked and enraged as we read the, "Kill all non-believers." comments of this small group.

Every culture and society have their share of rapists, child molestors, wife beaters, murderers, fudge packers, horse lovers, cheaters, theives, etc.

Don't fall into bparkers confusing world of fear,paranoia and hate. He thinks we're dumb people that can't see the forest from the trees. Anyone who spews anti-American and anti-Muslim topics in a span of 3 days is someone who is just looking for attention.:shhh: :giggling:


My name is DennisAJC, and I use my credit card.:D

[bparker]

Dennis forgot to tell you he is a flamming gay muslim :D

[KenP]

The Quran calls for Muslims to take over the world. Even the more mainstream muslims are helping their religion take over. Once that happens, the radicals will rule.

I've said it before, England is lost, France is gone, Germany is taken over, and it's just a matter of time before it takes over all of us. They're procreating at the rate of 8-9 kids per family, whereas the anglo families average less than 2 per family worldwide. You do the math.

[bparker]

I would say lettem try but our govt keeps taking our guns away when it matters most. So wats a god fearing law abiding person todo?

[bparker]

Honestly i was hoping someone here could comment on the coran saying that men can wed women younger than 13. I would like to know if it is there.

Maybe some of you can ask that have muslim friends?

I am leaving for europe tomorrow so I cant check this thread until i get back but i would love to know if its true.

[MarineHawk]

I am leaving for europe tomorrow ...
Better take some cash. They don't take credit cards in Europe.

[NewHummerGuy]

Better take some cash. They don't take credit cards in Europe.


:giggling: :giggling: :giggling: :giggling: :giggling:

[DennisAJC]

Better take some cash. They don't take credit cards in Europe.



HAHAHAHA!!!!:OWNED:

And they don't have internet there in Europe so it sucks you can't check in till you come back.:giggling:

[bparker]

LOL yep already sent a few grand ahead. But no bull sheet - I have tried to get my CCard Cos to work with me while abroad by calling them ahead of time and telling them which countries I will be in and after I use them once or twice they are disabled until I call them. But I cant call them from abroad as the phone charges are just stupid. So, I just take cash :D

What I meant when I said that is the mentality I have been exposed to which may be different fromt he norm is this - it is shameful to have to use credit cards as if you have to use credit cards to buy things that means you really dont have the money. You have to use a loan to buy simple things you "should" have cash to pay for them.

Thats what I meant not that they dont or wont its just a different mentality about "how" they use them. It is very rare for someone in the west to own outright property but in eastern europe its rare when a native does not own thier property outright.

[DennisAJC]

Why are you so worried about the government snooping into your life? Paranoid much? So you're paying cash huh? Something to hide?:p :D

[KenP]

Honestly i was hoping someone here could comment on the coran saying that men can wed women younger than 13. I would like to know if it is there.

Maybe some of you can ask that have muslim friends?I don't have any muslim friends.:twak:

[DennisAJC]

I don't have any muslim friends.:twak:

What did Hummbebe ever do to you? :confused: :D

[KenP]

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/marriage_age.html
And try orphans (as regards their intelligence) until they reach the age of marriage; if then you find sound judgement in them, release their property to them, but consume it not wastefully, and hastily fearing that they should grow up, and whoever amongst guardians is rich, he should take no wages, but if he is poor, let him have for himself what is just and reasonable (according to his work). And when you release their property to them, take witness in their presence; and Allah is All Sufficient in taking account. S. 4:6 Hilali-KhanCommentaries:
(Prove orphans) test the intelligence of orphans (till they reach the marriageable age) the age of puberty; ? (Tanw?r al-Miqb?s min Tafs?r Ibn ?Abb?s; source (http://altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=73&tSoraNo=4&tAyahNo=6&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0); bold and italic emphasis ours)

Try, test, well the orphans, before reaching maturity with regard [the duties of] religion and they can [legally] manage their own affairs, until they reach the age of marrying, [B]that is, until they have become eligible for it through puberty or [legal] age, which, according to al-Shafi'i, is the completion of fifteen years; ? (Tafsir Al-Jalalayn; source (http://altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=74&tSoraNo=4&tAyahNo=6&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0); bold and underline emphasis ours)

<until they reach the age of marriage>, the age of puberty, according to Mujahid. The age of puberty according to the majority of scholars comes when the child has a wet dream. In his Sunan, Abu Dawud recorded that `Ali said, "I memorized these words from the Messenger of Allah, ?However, Muhammad is found violating his very own command since he married a girl who was nine years old:

Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64 (http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/062.sbt.html#007.062.064); see also Numbers 65 and 88)

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house AS A BRIDE WHEN SHE WAS NINE, AND HER DOLLS WERE WITH HER; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311 (http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/008.smt.html#008.3311))

[KenP]

:rant: The problems are just starting for Muslims. Elsewhere in the Quran men are permitted to marry and divorce young girls who haven?t attained sexual maturity:
And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death]. And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens), and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him. S. 65:4 Hilali-Khan

[bparker]

Good work KenP holy ****..

So is there is grass on the field play ball? rofl

And to marry a child is crazy then to bang it out at age nine? Thats wrong on so many levels.

Anyways so age 13 is game in print but by example age 9 is acceptable on occasions...

ya ponyal

[MarineHawk]

A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. - Ecclesiastes 10:19 (King James Version)

That's my favorite spiritual verse.

[MarineHawk]

Muslims and criminal defense lawyers are so alike: http://www.nbc10.com/news/10761790/detail.html

[h2co-pilot]

My name is DennisAJC, and I use my credit card.:D

Dennis OMG! Lmao!:jump: Be nice to bparkistan.:D

The thing is is that all faiths have their quirky weirdos but this was in a popular well known mosque- not some tiny cracky looking shopping venue, Waco thing or house sermon. The hate is taught in classrooms too.

I am seriously pissed about the whole women thing. I plan on becoming very active. Not butchy nazi fem, but very active. I forwarded the link to the articles, videos and to the mosque's home page with their rebuttle to Fox News this morning.

I like this letter that was written by a UK man:


Letter to the Chief Constable of West Midlands Police and the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police.

Dear Sirs

I write to bring your attention to the programme 'Undercover Mosque' shown on Channel Four TV on Monday 15th January 2007 between 8 pm - 9 pm.


This programme featured deeply disturbing footage recorded secretly by an undercover journalist, alongside extracts from Islamic propaganda DVDs on sale openly at various mosques. This material was clearly shown to include serious criminal offences, including incitement to violence against children, women, homosexuals, Jews, Christians and non-Muslims. The level of violence recommended ranged from between hitting them up to and including murder.


Other potential offences include incitement to racial hatred against Jews and against white people in Britain, this on the basis that the vast majority of 'kuffaars' in the country are white, incitement to paedophilia and treason.


The potential offences are shown in the programme being committed by a number of clearly identifiable individuals, in clearly identified places, including Green Lane Mosque, Small Heath, Sparkbrook Mosque, Alum Rock Islamic Centre, the Al-Tawid Mosque in East London and the bookshop at Regent's Park Mosque, Central London.


The individuals include Dr. Bijal Philips, Abu Usama, Sheikh Hassan, the trustees of the Markazi Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith UK charity, Sheikh Faiz and Murtaza Khan. It is highly likely that the unused footage collected by Channel Four can also be used to identify other individuals and potential offences.


As the people of this country are already all too well aware, such radical Islamist teachings are not a matter merely for academic concern; the role of hate-preaching in radicalising and recruiting potential terrorists and suicide bombers is a matter of record. This is not an issue of free speech, since freedom of speech has never included the right to incite serious criminal offences.


I therefore write to ask that your force take immediate action to obtain all the material collected by Channel Four in the course of their investigation and to create a specialist investigative team to study the material in detail with a view to bringing prosecutions and to closing down institutions and organisations responsible for these various hate-crimes. In addition, since it is also well-known that radical Islam is a form of ideological and psychological virus, I ask that serious consideration be given - in the interests of public safety - to the immediate closure of all the buildings shown as being the bases for these dangerous teachings until your investigation is over and the guilty individuals have been removed and replaced by genuine moderates who can be guaranteed not to preach hatred and jihad against our society.


I would also ask that your team be particularly aware of the responsibility of registered charities and the recipients of government grants to remain at all times within the law, and to notify the Charity Commission and grant-making bodies of all instances you uncover where this has not been the case. In addition I ask that you act to broaden the scope of the current cash for honours investigation into senior members of the Labour party to include investigation into the possibility that government, lottery and other public funds grants have been used by the Labour party to 'buy' Muslim votes.

Finally, in view of the record of 'graduates' from the Medinah University in Saudi Arabia for involvement in incitement to serious offences in the UK, and the clear link between the preachers of hate in this programme with that institution, I urge you to press the Home Secretary to use his powers to expel immediately any and all foreign graduates from Medinah University on the grounds that their presence here is not conducive to the public good, and to arrest and hold all British citizen graduates or students of the same institution under Anti-Terrorism law preventative powers.
While I appreciate that you will not be able to divulge any operational details, I look forward to your prompt confirmation that action will be taken to investigate the allegations made by this programme, to examine all the unused material collected during its making, and to follow up all the leads it contains for the fight against Islamist radicalism and terrorism in our imperilled country.


Yours faithfully
Nick Griffin
Chairman, British National Part

[DennisAJC]

Dennis OMG! Lmao!:jump: Be nice to bparkistan.:D



Never trust them Parkistanians.:jump:

[bparker]

lol :clapping:

[DennisAJC]

lol :clapping:

:p :D

[bparker]

its going to be a long 3 weeks for me without this forum or my Hummer :crying:

[H2005]

Sounds like the FLDS mormons

[SnakeH2]

its going to be a long 3 weeks for me without this forum or my Hummer :crying:

Why don't you do a farewell thread like TGL. Get some love:giggling:

[bparker]

:giggling::giggling::giggling:

[KenP]

its going to be a long 3 weeks for me without this forum or my Hummer :crying:Get a smart phone. Do now!

[h2co-pilot]

Look what Fox found out about the guy:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244263,00.html

He was born in New Jersey!!!:rant:



http://www.foxnews.com/images/254481/1_61_mosque1.jpg (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244263,00.html#)

Abu Usamah at-Thahabi,, as seen in British Channel 4 report about radical clerics in the U.K.




NEW YORK ? A New Jersey-born Muslim cleric with links to a suspected Al Qaeda (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('Al Qaeda');) operative who surfaced at a college not far from the cleric's Peoria, Ill., mosque the day before the Sept. 11 attacks has found a new home.


The imam now is spewing his message of hate to a growing group of followers at a mosque in Birmingham, England.


His target: the United States, the United Kingdom, Christians and Jews.
Abu Usamah at-Thahabi (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('Abu Usamah at-Thahabi');), who preached at the Islamic Center of Peoria in 2001, is the subject of a British news documentary that revealed Monday how he regularly exhorts worshippers at the Green Lane Masjid, or mosque, in Birmingham to hate Westerners, whom he calls "pathological liars" and "kuffar," a derogatory term for non-Muslims.

Click here to view the British news documentary. (http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/youtube-has-uks-undercover-mosque)
Abu Usamah also calls for the public crucifixion of all "kuffar" and says they should be "left there to bleed to death for three days."
Abu Usamah, who was born in New Jersey and is 42 or 43 years old, was the imam in Peoria when federal agents swooped down in December 2001 and arrested Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri');), a Qatari student at Bradley University, on charges that he used false documents to open bank accounts and was in possession of a telephone credit card used to call a number in Dubai that federal agents said was linked to reputed Al Qaeda financier and Sept. 11 organizer Mustafa al-Hawsawi (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('Mustafa al-Hawsawi');).

Sources tell FOX News that Abu Usamah is a mysterious character ? no one, including federal agents and fellow imams, seems to know what his name was prior to his conversion to Islam.
But sources in Peoria say that though his public teachings there were moderate, he occasionally stepped over the line into anti-Semitic rhetoric.
Just prior to the invasion of Iraq in 2003, he called President Bush a "pathological liar" and constantly argued to his followers that "Jews controlled the media."

Al-Hawsawi, a Saudi known as the "Al Qaeda paymaster," reportedly funneled more than $325,000 to the Sept. 11 hijackers, though the 9/11 Commission reportedly could account for only $15,000.
Al-Hawsawi was arrested in Rawalpindi, Pakistan, on March 1, 2003, by a joint U.S.-Pakistani operation against suspected Al Qaeda operatives. He reportedly is being held at the U.S. Bagram airbase in Afghanistan.
Al-Marri remains in custody and is awaiting trial by a military tribunal as an enemy combatant. Among the evidence reportedly seized by federal agents was Al-Marri's computer, which contained a folder labeled "jihad arena." According to court documents, the folder contained information on hydrogen cyanide, used in chemical weapons, and the teachings of Usama Bin Laden (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('Usama Bin Laden');).


The Joint Intelligence Task Force for Combating Terrorism in its report said the information about hydrogen cyanide on Al-Marri's computer "far exceeds the interests of a merely curious individual." The task force report also alleges that Al-Marri was instructed by Al Qaeda to hack into the American banking system to wreak havoc on the U.S. economy.

[DennisAJC]

Look what Fox found out about the guy:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244263,00.html

He was born in New Jersey!!!:rant:



That explains why he hate teh woman so much.:shhh:

He was probably bitch slapped to no end by the black woman. Most likely his mom, sisters, or big ass ex-girlfriends.:OWNED:

[bparker]

hahahahahaaha so hes justa plain ole jersey nugga from around the way trying to spew his filth in hopes to gain some young light skinned wife!!

the truth is revealed!! :D

now I know why he hates whitey so much hahahahahaha

That explains why he hate teh woman so much.:shhh:

He was probably bitch slapped to no end by the black woman. Most likely his mom, sisters, or big ass ex-girlfriends.:OWNED: