Hurrah!

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

So I'm driving down to Manchester, NH today to go to Dobles Hummer so I can take my senior yearbook photo for next year!

Thats right, I'm taking my senior yearbook photo with an H2. Hell, everyone in school (faculty included) all ready knows that I'm a Hummer enthusiast of epic proportions.

Not to brag, but I once got into a heated arguement with my history teacher as to why his Prius is causing more environmental dismay than my eventual H2ever will! :giggling: :OWNED:

[K9sH3]

Good boy!! You need to wear an Elcova shirt for your pic.

:beerchug:

[Agriv8r]

:beerchug:

[bparker]

:beerchug:

[Steve - SanJose]

Wowie!

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Just got back to VT. My old man (self-proclaimed pro photographer :p ) took approx. 50 photos of me with an '07 Victory Red LE, an '07 Twililght Maroon and an '07 Birch White, all H2s. The latter was set up in front of the dealership on some boulders, and I think those photos will look pretty cool.

I'll post some of the better ones once I get 'em uploaded, and then maybe we can have a vote on which is the best. :D

ANYWAY, the folks at Dobles Hummer in Manchester, NH were very accomodating and made sure that I left with an arm-full of brochures! (Much to my dismay! :giggling:)

Cool, so I'll get some pics posted later!

[usetosellhummer]

Future head of the Division here... way to go!

[frenzy1]

Great ! PICS !!!!!!!!!

[jmsspratlin]

Cool Dude:giggling:

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Ok, so here are three of my favs.
http://i12.tinypic.com/4mvq54z.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/66e357l.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/5zf4fn5.jpg
^I think this one is my fav.

[jmsspratlin]

You know you just opened yourself to a crap load of photoshop potential....right? Congrats on the photos...Jamie

[ChiHummer3]

You know you just opened yourself to a crap load of photoshop potential....right?

Ummmm....yeah - I think that's an understatement. :giggling:
Nice pics though! :beerchug:

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Yes, I do realize that, though I'm not afraid of Drtyfn and his photochop skillz! :D

Thanks!

[Mr_Pat]

:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

[jmsspratlin]

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/jmsspratlin/Beware_2_Big.jpg

[DRTYFN]

I like this one bestest.:jump:

[jmsspratlin]

I like this one bestest.:jump:




Now that is truly scary!:D

[ChiHummer3]

Yes, I do realize that, though I'm not afraid of Drtyfn and his photochop skillz! :D

Thanks!

DRTY - Sounds like a challenge! :jump: :jump:

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Well DRTY, someone has been to my myspace! :giggling:

Yes, I get excited whilst I play Nintendo... :clapping:

DRTY, you should like, be a private investigator or something. You're really good at, well, snooping. :shhh: :D

[usetosellhummer]

He can find anyone!
So you look like a future salesman to me.:giggling:

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

I have SKIVVIES older then you...

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

I'm not gonna lie - that's kinda gross... :giggling:

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

So you look like a future salesman to me.:giggling:

Working
for Hummer eventually is my dream job.

But I'll do what RYD says and "follow the money"!

[dеiтайожни]

Working
for Hummer eventually is my dream job.

But I'll do what RYD says and "follow the money"!

Follow the money and work out of a Hummer... become a pimp.

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Haha!

Excellent!

[frenzy1]

http://i12.tinypic.com/4mvq54z.jpg

LAZY MAN LOOKING FOR PREGNANT WOMAN


:jump:

[usetosellhummer]

your gonna need a rolex ditch that watch

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

LAZY MAN LOOKING FOR PREGNANT WOMAN
:jump:

:( :shhh: :giggling:

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

your gonna need a rolex ditch that watch

Hey!

That is an Orvis watch, thank you very much! Orvis is a VT-born company that has been offering high end clothing and accessories for 150 years!

And, I happen to be employed there.

And, my dad has the Rolex's... :giggling:

[usetosellhummer]

Your Dad has taste, borrow his watch on photo day next time

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Yes, 'borrow'... :fdance: It is gold though, and I'm more of a silver guy...

But hey, if I play my cards right, it could be in my inheritance someday!

[frenzy1]

Yes, 'borrow'... :fdance: It is gold though, and I'm more of a silver guy...

But hey, if I play my cards right, it could be in my inheritance someday!


Gold Rolex ? Is your dad a pimp ?? :jump:

[jmsspratlin]

Working
for Hummer eventually is my dream job.

But I'll do what RYD says and "follow the money"!


Seriously? That is your dream job.:giggling:

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Gold Rolex ? Is your dad a pimp ?? :jump:

It's a family business!:jump:

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Seriously? That is your dream job.:giggling:
Yup, marketing.
BTW:your lamp is da shizznat.:giggling:

[frenzy1]

Yup, marketing.
BTW:your lamp is da shizznat.:giggling:


Me says da lamp iz da bomb fo smackin' da biaaatch up ! Fozhizzle !

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Word up.

:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

[frenzy1]

respect brotha !
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f317/suling1/nigga.jpg

^^ hope this ain't yo dad ! :jump:

[jmsspratlin]

My lamp made head of the camp,
I power it with my amp.
With my amp, it runs like a champ,
If it stops working, I'll have to revamp.

This is just a taste of my mad, fonky fresh skills. Dees are skills to pay my bills.

On a serious note, good choice in career planning, why not Wall Street or something of the like and try to land a 6 figure job instead? Just some advice....DON'T JOIN THE MEDICAL FIELD...its a trap.:giggling: :shhh:

[jmsspratlin]

Me says da lamp iz da bomb fo smackin' da biaaatch up ! Fozhizzle !


its biotch........fruitcake:twak:

[frenzy1]

its biotch........fruitcake:twak:
fo zure !

http://www.courageunfettered.com/xtra/fat-bitch.jpg

slap da biaaaaooooooooooootcccccccccchh ! :twak: :jump:

[KenP]

respect brotha !
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f317/suling1/nigga.jpg

^^ hope this ain't yo dad ! :jump:Holy crap!

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

I had the same reaction. :giggling:

[jmsspratlin]

LOL:jump:

[frenzy1]

http://www.ubrfvideo.com/goldranger/funny/suckatinternet.jpg

[jmsspratlin]

http://www.ubrfvideo.com/goldranger/funny/suckatinternet.jpg


Frenzy, where did you git that gun? Is that a 12 guage?:D

[zoe]

Not to brag, but I once got into a heated arguement with my history teacher as to why his Prius is causing more environmental dismay than my eventual H2ever will! :giggling: :OWNED:

How's that? Hummer require more steel and materials for construction and it uses at least three times as much gas and emits at least three times as much co2. If you're citing the Dust to Dust article, that's now being refuted by peer reviewed studies. The results for this article used arbitrary life terms for both the Hummer (almost 300,000 lifetime miles) and the Prius (just over 100,000 life time miles) vehicles and other methods of analysis are now being called into question. A subsequent peer reviewed re-analysis has cited that the life cycle energy requirements for the Prius hybrid (as well as any small car) are far lower than that of Hummers and SUV's.

[frenzy1]

Frenzy, where did you git that gun? Is that a 12 guage?:D

traded da gun fo me wifey at the pawn shop ! :shhh:

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

How's that? Hummer require more steel and materials for construction and it uses at least three times as much gas and emits at least three times as much co2. If you're citing the Dust to Dust article, that's now being refuted by peer reviewed studies. The results for this article used arbitrary life terms for both the Hummer (almost 300,000 lifetime miles) and the Prius (just over 100,000 life time miles) vehicles and other methods of analysis are now being called into question. A subsequent peer reviewed re-analysis has cited that the life cycle energy requirements for the Prius hybrid (as well as any small car) are far lower than that of Hummers and SUV's.

most nubees come here on their first post and say" hi, i'm new to the forum, i own or wana own a H-3 & i hope i learn a lot"

u come in and start talking BS WITHOUT REFERENCE MATERIAL...

care to start again

[zoe]

care to start again

This nubee didn't provide reference material as the OP didn't provide a source for his position. I was assuming he was speaking of the Dust to Dust article, that has since been refuted by peer reviewed data. I should add that I'm not sure why you've a preconception that what I say is BS without having any knowledge of what I reference.

http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integrity_of_science/case_studies/hummer_versus_prius.html

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

This nubee didn't provide reference material as the OP didn't provide a source for his position. I was assuming he was speaking of the Dust to Dust article, that has since been refuted by peer reviewed data. I should add that I'm not sure why you've a preconception that what I say is BS without having any knowledge of what I reference.

http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integrity_of_science/case_studies/hummer_versus_prius.html

THIS report by Pacific Institute

Hummer versus Prius:
“Dust to Dust” Report Misleads the Media and Public with Bad Science
http://www.pacinst.org/images/hummer_v_prius.jpg
by Peter H. Gleick, May, 2007
The CNW Marketing Research, Inc.’s 2007 “Dust to Dust: The Energy Cost of New Vehicles From Concept to Disposal” caught the interest of the media and the public with its claim that a Hummer H3 SUV has a lower life-cycle energy cost than a Toyota Prius hybrid. Closer inspection suggests that the report’s conclusions rely on faulty methods of analysis, untenable assumptions, selective use and presentation of data, and a complete lack of peer review. Even the most cursory look reveals serious biases and flaws: the average Hummer H1 is assumed to travel 379,000 miles and last for 35 years, while the average Prius is assumed to last only 109,000 miles over less than 12 years. These selective and unsupported assumptions distort the final results. A quick re-analysis with peer-reviewed data leads to completely opposite conclusions: the life-cycle energy requirements of hybrids and smaller cars are far lower than Hummers and other large SUVs. CNW should either release its full report, including methods, assumptions, and data, or the public should ignore its conclusions. Unfortunately, “Dust to Dust” has already distorted the public debate.

Your reference all ready has distorted direction. If you would PLEASE do a few things for me...

1. do you own a HUMMER
2. if you do , what model
3. if you don't currently own a HUMMER but did in the
past, what model was it
4. if you never owned a HUMMER what do you
drive now and WHO paid for it.
5. what organization do you work for
6. who paid you to come on THIS HUMMER FORUM
7. AGAIN PLEASE elaborate on your sources and
reference material


OH YEAH !


NUMBER 8. KISS MY ASS

[fourfourto]

THIS report by Pacific Institute

Hummer versus Prius:
?Dust to Dust? Report Misleads the Media and Public with Bad Science
http://www.pacinst.org/images/hummer_v_prius.jpg
by Peter H. Gleick, May, 2007
The CNW Marketing Research, Inc.?s 2007 ?Dust to Dust: The Energy Cost of New Vehicles From Concept to Disposal? caught the interest of the media and the public with its claim that a Hummer H3 SUV has a lower life-cycle energy cost than a Toyota Prius hybrid. Closer inspection suggests that the report?s conclusions rely on faulty methods of analysis, untenable assumptions, selective use and presentation of data, and a complete lack of peer review. Even the most cursory look reveals serious biases and flaws: the average Hummer H1 is assumed to travel 379,000 miles and last for 35 years, while the average Prius is assumed to last only 109,000 miles over less than 12 years. These selective and unsupported assumptions distort the final results. A quick re-analysis with peer-reviewed data leads to completely opposite conclusions: the life-cycle energy requirements of hybrids and smaller cars are far lower than Hummers and other large SUVs. CNW should either release its full report, including methods, assumptions, and data, or the public should ignore its conclusions. Unfortunately, ?Dust to Dust? has already distorted the public debate.

Your reference all ready has distorted direction. If you would PLEASE do a few things for me...

1. do you own a HUMMER
2. if you do , what model
3. if you don't currently own a HUMMER but did in the
past, what model was it
4. if you never owned a HUMMER what do you
drive now and WHO paid for it.
5. what organization do you work for
6. who paid you to come on THIS HUMMER FORUM
7. AGAIN PLEASE elaborate on your sources and
reference material


OH YEAH !


NUMBER 8. KISS MY ASS





Hey I have a pic just like that :jump:

Its my brother in laws:twak:

[jmsspratlin]

traded da gun fo me wifey at the pawn shop ! :shhh:




LOL...you're a riot:twak: :jump:

[jmsspratlin]

All I have to do is take one look at that picture, and there's no f**king way I'm going to drive some lame-ass Prius. :D



Looks gay:lame:

[zoe]

THIS report by Pacific Institute


The source for the Dust to Dust publication won't release the methodology for the results that they published. But it is known that they've used arbitrary life miles to arrive at their results and so the study is flawed from the get go. And, it matters not which Hummer you consider for life energy. All Hummers require the same approximate quantities of material (from similar sources, I'm sure), have the same limited MPG of 13, and emit nearly 14,000 pounds of co2 each year.

Again, I've no idea to what scientific data the OP is referring to arrive at his conclusions. I just know that this publication is the most wide spread publication regarding same.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

How's that? Hummer require more steel and materials for construction and it uses at least three times as much gas(the H-3 gets as much as 20 MPG) and emits at least three times as much co2.(your reference is ???) If you're citing the Dust to Dust article, that's now being refuted by peer(Exactly WHO) reviewed studies. The results for this article used arbitrary life terms for both the Hummer (almost 300,000 lifetime miles) and the Prius (just over 100,000 life time miles) vehicles and other methods of analysis are now being called into question(by who). A subsequent peer(by who) reviewed re-analysis has cited that the life cycle energy requirements for the Prius hybrid (as well as any small car) are far lower than that of Hummers and SUV's.

BY WHO...REFERENCES...ANYWER QUESTIONS PLEASE

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

The source for the Dust to Dust publication won't release the methodology for the results that they published. But it is known that they've used arbitrary life miles to arrive at their results(by who) and so the study is flawed from the get go(says who). And, it matters not which Hummer you consider for life energy. All Hummers require the same approximate quantities of material (from similar sources, I'm sure), (how can you be so ignorant)have the same limited MPG of 13,(are you naturally stupid) and emit nearly 14,000 pounds of co2 each year. (my GOD man you are 1 dumb FSOB)

Again, I've no idea to what scientific data the OP is referring to arrive at his conclusions. I just know that this publication is the most wide spread publication regarding same.

I bet your a vegen and work for greenpeace...

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

How's that? Hummer require more steel and materials for construction and it uses at least three times as much gas and emits at least three times as much co2. If you're citing the Dust to Dust article, that's now being refuted by peer reviewed studies. The results for this article used arbitrary life terms for both the Hummer (almost 300,000 lifetime miles) and the Prius (just over 100,000 life time miles) vehicles and other methods of analysis are now being called into question. A subsequent peer reviewed re-analysis has cited that the life cycle energy requirements for the Prius hybrid (as well as any small car) are far lower than that of Hummers and SUV's.

Wowza. I'm gone two days and this is what happens? :lame: :giggling:

Oh, dear. Well first zoe, way to be a hippie. -One who has obviously tired of the Prius forum. I think its great that you are so avidly protecting our earth, and saving all us Hummer enthusiasts from ourselves! I mean, if you wouldn't do it, who would, right? By the way, I had no idea about what the 'Dust to Dust' paper was. (But thanks for bringing it up and fueling the fire!) I was actually referring to the H2 being more 'green' than your precious Prius. There are multiple articles online, as well as multiple topics in this forum with the evidence supporting my view. I don't really like arguing with someone in posts, and I know you're trying to come across as a really intelligent person. -But zoe, honestly, if you come to a HUMMER FORUM trying to badmouth HUMMERS and promote a small gas/electric vehicle made by a Japanese auto company, that's just dumb.

By the way, welcome to the forum! :OWNED:

[KenP]

That huge zinc mine in Canada where Toyota gets their material for the batteries sure is a nice thing for the environment. Those batteries sure are easy to dispose of, too.

Humm, come to think of it, Toyota's plastic sure is good for the landfills too.

I wonder how long all that garbage sits before decomposing since it can't be recycled.

Just curious Zoe, how much energy was used developing the new technology for the batteries and plastics in the Prius? Heck, how much energy is used making those products so they can sit in landfills for decades to come?

I was also curious what it costs to ship those exotic materials back and forth across the globe to build the Prius.

Virtually the entire H2 can be recycled.

Oh yeah, what's the usable life expantancy of the Prius? I don't mean how long it's plastics will be in the landfills, but what's the true life expectancy? Isn't it half the H2's?

Wow.

I think I'd rather get the gas Honda Civic that's better for the environment.

I guess the Prius is like that enviro concert going on right now around the world. It doesn't mater what it costs the environment to put the show on, as long as they appear to be doing some good it's ok.

[DRTYFN]

This nubee didn't provide reference material as the OP didn't provide a source for his position. I was assuming he was speaking of the Dust to Dust article, that has since been refuted by peer reviewed data. I should add that I'm not sure why you've a preconception that what I say is BS without having any knowledge of what I reference.

http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integrity_of_science/case_studies/hummer_versus_prius.html

Sorry, but use a forged IP and join the banned. Take your fact ignoring agenda-carrying hippy ass somewhere else.

[KenP]

Sorry, but use a forged IP and join the banned. Take your fact ignoring agenda-carrying hippy ass somewhere else.:giggling:

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

:OWNED:

[DennisAJC]

Sorry, but use a forged IP and join the banned. Take your fact ignoring agenda-carrying hippy ass somewhere else.


POWN3D
:jump::jump:

[KenP]

POWN3D
:jump::jump:
HAHAhaha!!!! Right click - save!!!!

[Agriv8r]

4 pages and then the cat appears.....

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Haha, yeah! I was waiting for that.

Oh, how threads wander! :giggling:

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Sorry, but use a forged IP and join the banned. Take your fact ignoring agenda-carrying hippy ass somewhere else.
BTW: What exactly is a forged IP? :o

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

BTW: What exactly is a forged IP? :o

your to young to know !!!

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

I can't win...
:p

[frenzy1]

DANG ! I HAVE A SERIOUS HANG OVER... :beerchug:

HAVE SOME BELGIAN BABES !

http://www.che.be/babes/covers/imgs/cover_105_1.jpg
http://www.che.be/babes/covers/imgs/cover_23_1.jpg
http://www.che.be/babes/covers/imgs/cover_23_3.jpg

:dancingbanana:

Frenzy
Belgium

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

[quote=frenzy1]DANG ! I HAVE A SERIOUS HANG OVER... :beerchug:

HAVE SOME BELGIAN BABES !

http://www.che.be/babes/covers/imgs/cover_105_1.jpg


I'll take 6 of these... its all i can handle

[frenzy1]

[quote=frenzy1]DANG ! I HAVE A SERIOUS HANG OVER... :beerchug:

HAVE SOME BELGIAN BABES !

http://www.che.be/babes/covers/imgs/cover_105_1.jpg


I'll take 6 of these... its all i can handle


sorry ! MADE IN BELGIUM, NO EXPORT !!
GET SOME CHINESE MADE BABES !!
:D

[NEOCON1]

DANG ! I HAVE A SERIOUS HANG OVER... :beerchug:

HAVE SOME BELGIAN BABES !





:dancingbanana:

Frenzy
Belgium


:beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug:

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Well thank you Frenzy! :clapping:

[zoe1]

That huge zinc mine in Canada where Toyota gets their material for the batteries sure is a nice thing for the environment. Those batteries sure are easy to dispose of, too.


I'm assuming you're speaking of the Nickel plant (not zinc). This plant has been around for 100 years. Toyota purchases anywhere from 1% to 6%of the materials sourced from this plant. Hummers are not exempt for the impacts of this plant as Nickel is required for the manufacture of stainless steel. Hummers required more steel and have been around a lot longer so anyone who purchases these goods made from stainless steel have to own some of this responsibility as well.

Someone mentioned the disposal of the batteries in the Prius and these are recycled. Toyota offers a premium for compliance of this.

I joined this site to have a conversation about a misconception of the Hummer. It seems you guys just don't want to take accountability for your actions and confront the impacts of your purchases so you immediately ban me (still trying to figure out for what as I've conducted myself in a very reasonable manner). I'm sure the information contained in my first paragraph will get me banned again. So, carry on and promote your disinformation campaign in an effort to ease your conscience.

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

HOLY GOD!!! Stop now hippie! STOP NOW!! Take your politely-smug-typing-skills to the Prius forum where you belong!

BEGONE DEMON! BEGONE!

:lame: :lame: :lame: :lame: :lame:

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Ok, I feel better now. -But seriously zoe, what is your beef? (Or should I say "What is your tofu?") We love Hummers, you love hybrids. Lets all get along, and not pollute each others forums.

BTW: You were apparantly banned for using a forged IP address.

[DennisAJC]

Hey I have a pic just like that :jump:

Its my brother in laws:twak:



:jump::beerchug::jump:

[MarineHawk]

I guess the Prius is like that enviro concert going on right now around the world. It doesn't mater what it costs the environment to put the show on, as long as they appear to be doing some good it's ok.

I thought this was pretty funny: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZjM0MDgzYWM3ZjJlNzdkZGQ1MTRmODA5NjliMmQyMDI=

[Agriv8r]

i bought three acres for under a hundred bucks...just gotta talk the wife into moving now..

[zoe1]

I thought this was pretty funny: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZjM0MDgzYWM3ZjJlNzdkZGQ1MTRmODA5NjliMmQyMDI=

The Prius isn't the answer to any of our environmental concerns, but at least it provides technology that may move us in the right direction - which is away from oil. If I were to support technology of choice, it would be the electric car.

Regarding Live Earth, I knew there would be arguments on this side of the coin. Trouble is, it takes massive amounts of energy to broadcast a message on such a grand scale. The hope is that this message will not fall on deaf ears and maybe it'll persuade our youth to engage their choices in a more responsible manner. Well, hopefully anyways.

[zoe1]

Ok, I feel better now. -But seriously zoe, what is your beef? (Or should I say "What is your tofu?") We love Hummers, you love hybrids. Lets all get along, and not pollute each others forums.

BTW: You were apparantly banned for using a forged IP address.

:)

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

I'm assuming you're speaking of the Nickel plant (not zinc). This plant has been around for 100 years. Toyota purchases anywhere from 1% to 6%of the materials sourced from this plant. Hummers are not exempt for the impacts of this plant as Nickel is required for the manufacture of stainless steel. Hummers required more steel and have been around a lot longer so anyone who purchases these goods made from stainless steel have to own some of this responsibility as well.

Someone mentioned the disposal of the batteries in the Prius and these are recycled. Toyota offers a premium for compliance of this.

I joined this site to have a conversation about a misconception of the Hummer. It seems you guys just don't want to take accountability for your actions and confront the impacts of your purchases so you immediately ban me (still trying to figure out for what as I've conducted myself in a very reasonable manner). I'm sure the information contained in my first paragraph will get me banned again. So, carry on and promote your disinformation campaign in an effort to ease your conscience.

where is gooey gaybob when you need him !!!

LOOK... GIVE US your references, not he said / she said ...
you are the one coming to us saying this and that, you are challanging us but cannot reference sources that can be verified...

When I argue before those 9 men and women in Washington, a case, I just can't go in and say " bull chit" and "just believe me"
They would put me into the slammer with some of my clients...

My GOD man if you have had some High School Debate or English and/or college science/math you have to defend your words with proof

Now if you never took High School English or Debate or college science courses at least bull **** better then what you have shown here...My CAT, Gaylord Focker could present a better arguement then you have shown...

RYD

[Steve - SanJose]

where is gooey gaybob when you need him !!!


RYD

What is he, your hero?

[jmsspratlin]

What is he, your hero?




:jump: :jump: :jump:

[MarineHawk]

Regarding Live Earth, I knew there would be arguments on this side of the coin. Trouble is, ....

Objection. Nonresponsive. I said I thought it was funny.

For example:


...
3:10: After her performance, KT Tunstall tells Dave Holmes and Karen Duffy that there?s a forest of 6,000 trees in her native Scotland that is offsetting her carbon emissions. Wait? What? What is it with these offsetting schemes? According to this website (http://www.carbonneutral.com/shop/details.asp?productid=859&productname=Dedicate%20a%20Tree:%20KT%20Tunstall), ?KT Tunstall has supported enough forestry to ?neutralise? the CO2 emissions that were given off as a result of producing her new album ?Eye to the Telescope.?? It doesn?t say if these trees were newly planted or anything that might actually offset her carbon emissions ? never mind that planting 6,000 new trees for every energy-intensive occupation isn?t exactly a practical plan for addressing the problem. It does say on that website, however, if you send in ten dollars you get a certificate saying you have a tree in Tunstall?s forest dedicated to you personally. Looks like a pretty bad deal, especially considering I can buy an acre of land on the moon for $30 (http://www.lunarlandowner.com/standard_gift_package_details.htm).
...
4:13: Czech supermodel Petra Nemcova, famous chiefly for her Sports Illustrated cover and being caught at a Thai resort during the 2004 tsunami which killed her fianc?, takes the stage in London to explain that she wasn?t angry at nature, but that she saw the tsunami as nature?s cry for help. She wonders whether we will answer ?the call of the nature.? So now we?re blaming earthquakes on global warming?
...
4:58: The scantily clad Pussycat Dolls bump and grind their no-talent-but-well-proportioned derrieres through something approximating a song in such a way that I wonder where the poles are. I believe the chorus is ?Loosen up my butt-ons, babe.? Wasn?t this exactly the kind of thing that Tipper Gore used to rail against with the Parents? Music Resource Center?
...
5:38: Rapper T-Pain performs his hit single, ?I?m N Luv (Wit A Stripper).? Again was Tipper Gore completely MIA when they booked this thing? As if to underscore the age inappropriateness of the whole thing, they go straight from T-Pain to an interview with eleven-year-old actress Abigail Breslin.
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5:47: Linkin Park performs from Japan. It?s no mean feat that the rap/rock group is one of the biggest bands on the planet, considering that they are bar none the whiniest. One music press writer recently compared (http://idolator.com/tunes/linkin-park/nothing-in-the-world-will-ever-cheer-up-linkin-park-263302.php) the band?s lead singer Chester Bennington to an ?an apoplectic five-year-old wailing for a juicebox.? Chester Bennington is also notable for revealing (http://idolator.com/tunes/magazines/rock+critically-correct-blender-is-not-so-complicated-267125.php) in recent Blender magazine interview that a few years ago when he hit it off with a Playboy model he met at a party, he drove home and broke up with his wife and the mother of his child that evening. Classy. Considering Al Gore recently told the Washington Post global warming ?is not a political issue; it?s a moral issue,? I really can?t think of a better bunch of spokesmen for morality than rock musicians.
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6:26: Al Gore?s personal troubadour, Melissa Etheridge, takes the stage. Etheridge wrote the turgid theme song for An Inconvenient Truth, and today is premiering two new songs. The first, ?Imagine That,? near as I can tell, is written from the perspective of Cindy Sheehan. Etheridge is the only musician I?ve seen today that seems really revved up about the cause. Unfortunately, for her there?s really just no way for her to sing lyrics this overtly political and not have it be extremely awkward:

A mother was grieving he loss/her soldier the ultimate cost/she went to the man who?s been told he?s a king/waited outside of his compound to ask him a few things/she said ?for what noble cause did my son have to die/where are there weapons and why?d you have to lie.?
No artistic interpretation needed there.

Unfortunately, the sub-par dirge-y ?Imagine That? lasts almost eight minutes because in the middle of the song, Etheridge begins to break it down and lecture the crowd to get her political rocks off. Too bad she doesn?t know what the hell she?s talking about:

AmeriKKKa! [emphasis added] What happened to us? I mean last thing I remember I was in like eight grade, right? I was in about eight grade and I remember that was the first time I heard about this global-warming stuff, whatever, something's gonna happen in the future. I remember sitting in my eight-grade social-studies class, thinking ?oh yeah, I?m sure glad that?s going to be taken care of so when I become an adult I don?t have to worry about this global-warming stuff? because people were doing stuff back then. Because it was it was America, people were doing things. People were standing up when there was an unjust war.
Where to begin? It?s incoherent for starters, and I?d like to forget the bile-inducing Sixties? nostalgia. Most importantly, it?s completely factually wrong. As for the scientific consensus on global warming, everyone agrees that there is no significant evidence that global temperatures were starting to rise until 1979. Melissa Etheridge was born in 1961, and by my rough calculations that puts her in the eight-grade in 1975. Here?s (http://denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm) a Newsweek article from that same year that begins, ?There are ominous signs that the Earth?s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production ? with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now.? Naturally, the article is discussing the emerging scientific consensus on global cooling.
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6:45: Second song, remarkably indistinguishable from the first. More ranting and raving. ?You?re gonna tell your children?s children about how we almost lost democracy.? Thanks Melissa, I?ll forego parenting advice from someone who chose an alcoholic walrus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Crosby) to father her child. Seriously, she just WON?T STOP. Speaking of stopping an unjust war, as a journalist being forced to listen to this I?m beginning to think this is my personal Vietnam. Not to trivialize the experience of veterans, but my father?s a Marine and I?m pretty confident he would have called in an airstrike by now.
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6:49: Al Gore takes the stage following Etheridge, acting a bit goofy and clearly energized. He then asks Live Earth viewers to enter into a seven-point pledge (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19502465/) on global warming. There?s a lot too it but he kind of loses me on the first point: ?Demand that my country join an international treaty within the next two years that cuts global-warming pollution by 90 percent in developed countries and by more than half worldwide in time for the next generation to inherit a healthy earth.? 90 percent? Can we see an economic-impact study on that Al? Far be it from me to suggest that poverty is actually the root cause of much of the world?s pollution, particularly in the developing world.

Al segues into introducing a ?wonderful American rock band? the Foo Fighters performing in London. I?ll just note that the Foo Fighters last radio hit was a cover of Prince?s ?Darling Nikki,? the song supposedly so obscene when Tipper Gore heard her daughter listening to it, she formed the Parents? Music Resource Center and the ensuing congressional hearings forced the music industry to adopt parental warning stickers. Either she has no integrity whatsoever, or I?m imagining that concert organizers locked Tipper in a trunk under the under the stage with a ball gag in her mouth.

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

:confused:

[Agriv8r]

read it once, couldnt do it again...couldn't you have just highlighted a few words to make your point.........

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

LOL, it's summer. I make it my policy not to read any more than is absolutely necessary... :fdance:

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

What is he, your hero?

NO STEVIE,

you are sweetie!!!

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

What does that make me? Chopped liver? :p

[Steve - SanJose]

Heros are hard to find obviously.

[Agriv8r]

depends on how high your standards are...

[frenzy1]

What's Prius ??? We don't have 'em in Belgium !!

[Steve - SanJose]

Prius is okay to have around. It's something to bully around on the way to work.