HUMdeVille

[Roadsurfer]

Hi....brand new to the forum, just wanted to post a few pics of a little project we just finished

http://www.roadsurfer.net/images/FinishedSide.JPG

http://www.roadsurfer.net/images/FinishedFrontQuarter.JPG

http://www.roadsurfer.net/images/FinishedRear.JPG

[Roadsurfer]

Hi....brand new to the forum, just wanted to post a few pics of a little project we just finished

http://www.roadsurfer.net/images/FinishedSide.JPG

http://www.roadsurfer.net/images/FinishedFrontQuarter.JPG

http://www.roadsurfer.net/images/FinishedRear.JPG

[BADRAP]

Well here are my two cents:

I am disgraced to own a black H2 at this point, that thing should have never gotten off the drawing board let alone into a production model of 1.... Someone shoot it quick, maybe if I pinch myself I will walk up and this will have all been a dream .... OUCH, damnit I was awake... Well could be worse I guess... Doubt it...

badrap@sbcglobal.net
03 Black Lux (This is my 2nd H2)
Had an 03 Pewter but it rattled away...........
03 BMW 525i, Titanium Grey...

[Grim_Smoker]

Well, I in a way agree with Badrap. I would probably kill myself before driving that thing. However, different strokes for different folkes. It looks killer man, looks like you really did a good job. You say it's a project "we" just finished. Just curious who the "we" is, how the install went of the caddy front end, etc. I personally don't like lowered H2's and such, but it looks neat. Good job bud.

-Grim

2003 Sunset Metalic Orange H2 - Breathless Stage 2B, HID's, Gobi Rack & Ladder.

2003 Millenium Yellow Z06

[NCHummerman]

I guessed it ... you are located in California ... very interesting looking to say the least. Good luck with your HumDeVille ....

Michael
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Pewter Hummer H2
Northern California

www.zootsuitstore.com (http://www.zootsuitstore.com)
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[JSA_3]

All I can come up with is - - -

Why?

Wait,wait, I take it back - - -

I don't even want to know.

What a disgrace to both Hummer and Cadillac.

[Buckeye Hummer]

I hope this is for a movie and not something that some NBA star ordered to drive around. At least after the movie shoot it will be hidden in a warehouse somewhere.

Also, I think your warranty is now void http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[BADRAP]

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
You have to wonder what these people were sitting around doing to come up with this (idea) if you can call it that... I think that Cadillac and Hummer need to be contacted about this... Immediately... Maybe they can put it out of its misery...
Can we call it a CADUMMER????? Or a Humilac???

lol lol lol lol lol http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

badrap@sbcglobal.net
03 Black Lux (This is my 2nd H2)
Had an 03 Pewter but it rattled away...........
03 BMW 525i, Titanium Grey...

[Hummer Man]

I would never be caught dead in that BLACK POS.

[BADRAP]

THIS IS WHAT A REAL BLACK H2 LOOKS LIKE JUST FOR THOSE THAT FREAKED OUT ON THIS PIC....IT IS OK, COUNT TO 10......

badrap@sbcglobal.net
03 Black Lux (This is my 2nd H2)
Had an 03 Pewter but it rattled away...........
03 BMW 525i, Titanium Grey...

[This message was edited by BADRAP on 08-19-03 at 01:36 PM.]

[BADRAP]

I can also understanding lifting one like the picture posted, but it still looks like an H2...hehehe

badrap@sbcglobal.net
03 Black Lux (This is my 2nd H2)
Had an 03 Pewter but it rattled away...........
03 BMW 525i, Titanium Grey...

[Roadsurfer]

Boys, boys, boys.....

At the end of the day? A Hummer is just another Chevy truck. Actually, another Chevy truck with a ton of plastic crap on the front. Gotta be honest with yourselves, fellas. Its a Tahoe, with a Jeep front end.

So, Cadillac plastic crap is somehow worse than an oversize Cherokee grille and those gay-ass H2 plastic wings on the mid bumper?

I dont think so http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And just to clarify...its called th HUMdeVille, and yes, the acronym "NBA" is affiliated with it.

Better get used to it...there's more coming http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Including one with a Mercedes front endhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[BADRAP]

More like UGdeVille...YUK..
I would have figured nba in there somewhere..No one is normal anymore and no one in their white mind would drive that...
And why you would put yourself in a business to destroy an awesome automobile and then do this to it... We need to talk...
The Therapist is here to see you.......... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

good luck...

badrap@sbcglobal.net
03 Black Lux (This is my 2nd H2)
Had an 03 Pewter but it rattled away...........
03 BMW 525i, Titanium Grey...

[Grim_Smoker]

Alright alright, the caddy conversion is one thing, but the Benz is pushing it WAAAY too far. I now hate you http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif . Sorry, not a benz fan, in fact I detest them. But to each his own.....


-Grim

2003 Sunset Metalic Orange H2 - Breathless Stage 2B, HID's, Gobi Rack & Ladder.

2003 Millenium Yellow Z06

[Roadsurfer]

Um....

"no one in their white mind" ?

Wow.

[Roadsurfer]

Grim.....

Did I mention the convertible project? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[HUMMERDOGG]

Roadsurfer-

I appreciate the work you put into this even though it's not to my taste however, I do have some questions for you. I'm interested in the hood and how it is "grafted" to the body. I would appreciate you posting more detailed pics of the hood top near the windshield and with the hood opened.

Thanks.

-HUMMERDOGG

*member of the "No Hummer Krew"*

[H2 Bill]

I think that it looks like a fair job that the boys did with Photoshop...

2003 H2 Hummer, Yellow,Polished Whipple Supercharged, Edelbrock ceramics, catback,18" Ambush w/mudders,lots of goodies!
Y2K Corvette Millennium Yellow Convert/Blk/Blk, B&B headers, B&B Tri-Flo's, H-Tech MAG,GMS MAF, RM Racing TwinFlow.
1994 Chev 454 Suburban, Blown, Doug Thorley
1970 Trans Am, balanced, blue printed, Hooker ceramics

www.4swimwear.com (http://www.4swimwear.com)

[Roadsurfer]

I'd love to enlighten you http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The 6.0L engine is a corporate motor. nothing "H2" about it.

The 4l65E transmission, transfer case, and front differential are the same as used in the Escalade, Yukon, and Tahoe...nothing "H2" about it.

The rear axle is an H2 piece (unless of course you have a 3/4 ton Suburban)....hung from the corporate "Suburban" rear frame stub by the identical trailing arms, Panhard bar, and coils/air bags as found on the previously mentioned platforms. The only reason the rear axle is larger is to facilitate the 8 lug 3/4 ton hubs.

The front suspension is corporate, as well...the only difference between a Suburban/Escalade lower control arm and the H2 is the bolt-on shock clevis...the upper and lower control arms interchange between the sorporate platform and the H2. Of course, the H2 spindles ar 3/4 ton, 8 lug.

The basic frame structure relocates the suspension pick up points for higher ground clearnace, and the center of the frame is wider than the corporate platforms to facilitate the width of the body.

So, in essence, with the exception of the wider frame, elevated suspension pick up points, and 3/4 ton hubs...you have a basic Suburban platform. You can take virtually and Suburban/Escalade suspension piece and bolt it directly to the H2, and vice versa.

Hradly innovative. Hardly unique. Hardly "special".

What!? You think GM actually made parts for the H2!? Silly. Well, thats not entirely accurate. Gm DID makes those ridiculous plastic grille wings and the TOTALLY non fucntional "snorkle pods" and "Cowl vents"...you ARE aware that those cheesy pieces are TOTALLY cosmetic, aren't you?

Its a 3/4 ton Suburban, with a wider mid-frame.

Enlightened, now? Good http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And I have a thick skin...my motto for stock H2 owners is the same as for Corvette owners...

"Nice hair piece, sorry about your penis"

It's just a truck, fellas http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Roadsurfer]

H2 Bill....

It's real. It was just in Rialto last weekend! You could seen it http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[BADRAP]

Can you smell that? sniff sniff sniff........ TROLL!!!!!! Damnit not another one....

badrap@sbcglobal.net
03 Black Lux (This is my 2nd H2)
Had an 03 Pewter but it rattled away...........
03 BMW 525i, Titanium Grey...

[Ed G.]

Talk about nothing special, what's up with your website ? I think you might have some issues yourself. Why come to a Hummer site, rag on them and start trouble, can't find another vehicle to screw up today ?

[Roadsurfer]

Ed....

"rag" on them? Hardly, sport...I was responding, which is a different approach.

Follow the chronology of the thread. Look who's doing the ragging....bigots and highbrows hate it when they are treated like average folk. I am simply defending myself http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

So, I responded. So what? You gonna take it personally?

You might want to take my Corvette owners motto to heart...or better yet, chill out.

The loser in any argument is the one that gets mad...and you're on the verge, princess http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And thanks for visiting the website. NOW do you see how this works!? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Roadsurfer]

Phil....

Honestly, I appreciate the oblique compliment...and there was a lot of work put into it, and I know it doesnt appeal to a broad audience. No problem.

Obviously, I dont care how the thing works off road http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, nor am I schooled on the appropriate offroad technique and application of the H2....my GUESS is that its probably pretty functional for as big as it is....but, at the end of the day.....its a Suburban with big wheels. And a GVW of 8600lbs...how "nimble" COULD it be!?

Finally....all the hair pulling is pure entertainment...there are few places, outside of making negative comments about my girlfriends choice of nail color, where I can get SUCH aggressive, reactionary behavior. Nothing like telling a disciple that his king is a peasant in pretty clothes to get him to wanna burn you at the stake http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I LOVE the H2. There is a LOT I think is cheesy, but I love em....even bone stock. So, I am not a hater....just not married to 'em http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[NCHummerman]

Dear Roadsurfer,

Why not cut the "attitude" .... you made the post initially on a Hummer Owner's Forum for a response from the group ? Now you have one. Just move on ....

Good luck,

Michael
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Pewter Hummer H2
Northern California

www.zootsuitstore.com (http://www.zootsuitstore.com)
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[Paul L]

Roadsurfer

did you split the rear hatch
tailgate & window
I have been getting prices on doing just that
my thoughts: the super size side pipes look kool ..... should have put the exaust through them, the front & lowering ...... not my style

[Paul L]

silly me didn't list my rides:


h2 - stock
skateboard all decked out http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
rollerskates polished w/kripton wheels

[Paul L]

roadsfr

spend some time or $ on your %%#@ site

[Buckeye Hummer]

Hmmm, I think you took being different to a new level. If someone commissioned you to build this truck then that's ok because whatever NBA star (maybe Kobe bought it for his wife to make up) doesn't have any knowledge of what is tasteful in automobiles. On the other hand, you are a supposed professional that was blinded by money and sold out to make something as awful looking as this. The ONLY way I would congratulate you on your work is if this truck was for a movie and the specs called for a pimped out Caddy/Hummer Hybrid. If that is the case Bravo! If not, back to the business drawing board I guess. You should have given the client some professional direction because this truck will only gain glares of disgust not admiration.

[NCHummerman]

Dear Roadsurfer,

Yes, it is a truck, and yes, many of the parts are manufactured by GM and many are not and they are proprietary to the H2 …. But, many of your "renditions" about the parts and how they are put together and where they are from are erroneous …. please read the prospectus regarding the H2, and if you are really interested, you may contact:

Mrs. Wendy M. Orthman
Communications Coordinator
PR Division/Hummer GM
MC: 482-A32-B98
100 Renaissance Center
Detroit, Michigan 48265-1000

And you will get the “real scoop” …

I wish you the best with your custom conversions. It is just a shame that a vehicle made of off road use is being converted to a “low rider” …. Does your company make “low rider’s” ? I have a 68 Dodge that we want converted with hydraulics, etc. to make a advertising vehicle to use for trade shows …

Best

Michael
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Pewter Hummer H2
Northern California

www.zootsuitstore.com (http://www.zootsuitstore.com)
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[Roadsurfer]

Mike.....

I'll pass on calling Wendy...

But we can hook you up on juicing the Dodge.

bill@roadsurfer.net

[Roadsurfer]

Um....

"On the other hand, you are a supposed professional that was blinded by money and sold out to make something as awful looking as this."

Guys....its a TRUCK. We're not curing cancer, here.

Besides....I am aware of the need to behave ethically, but would anyone turn away a customer who wanted this, because he is a Hummer disciple, and couldnt bear to ruin it?

Fellas....they'll make more http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif And my guess is, that with all the plastic, the average H2 will exist when the earth augers into the sun.

So, cutting up a 1/2 dozen or so wont unduly change the balance of the cosmic order....its just gonna piss of a few disciples. Thats not necessarily a bad thing.

'Cause you're gonna be talkin about it, EVEN if to hate it http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Roadsurfer]

Michael...

"Attitude" is a self-fulfilling prophecy. There is enough attitude in this thread from all parties involved to raise the Titanic.

Know what I mean?

[NCHummerman]

Touché ....

Best,

Michael
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Pewter Hummer H2
Northern California

www.zootsuitstore.com (http://www.zootsuitstore.com)
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[Buckeye Hummer]

"Besides....I am aware of the need to behave ethically, but would anyone turn away a customer who wanted this, because he is a Hummer disciple, and couldnt bear to ruin it?"

Yes, I would have turned it away but we run our businesses diffently. You sold out and now the world has seen your "work" that is ONLY to the taste of the client. A true professional would have sent the client somewhere else.

I don't care that it was an H2. It could have been a corsica and a grand prix for that matter. The deal is you apparently went against your own professional opinion of what looked good and made it anyway. This is simply a reflection of your weak immediate need for cash. Think of a professional home designer, hair stylist, contractor, engineer, surgeon. These professionals would never simply take the opinion of the client and run with it for the money. Focus on the long run use your head and make products that YOU like not what a tasteless NBA player has commissioned you to do.

Good luck!

[HUMMERDOGG]

Roadsurfer-

Hey, how about the pics I requested???

-HUMMERDOGG

*member of the "No Hummer Krew"*

[Hum2]

Roadsurfer:

Hit the road!

Ric

OMAHOG/IHOG
Hum2@cox.net

[Roadsurfer]

Buckeye....

Your reverence for the H2 is laudable, but borders on the pathological.

And whereas disagreements can be fun in these forums, you've decided to make this into a personal issue. So, hell, sport, if ya wanna dance THAT dance, I am down http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Lets cut to the chase...you're a hypoctrite...a pathological hypocrite, at that.

You suggest that your business is above reproach..essentially, you define the ethical execution of a business....yet you are more than willing to attack my ethics. That is simply juvenile, as well as hypoctrical.

Your "public" standards are apparently inconsistent with your "personal" standards...because in here, where you have the protection of anonymity, and therefore dont have to subscribe to what you define as superior business ethics, you're more than willing to make this a personal issue, and insult me personally.

Bad form, Willis....means you're hypocrticial.

You further inflate your own sense of self-worth by "adding into" the fundamental bias you already espouse....you suggest that I "went against my own professional opinion"...

Nothing could be further from the truth. Like most biased hypocrites, you associate value with assumptions to extend your argument. Naturally, that argument falls down in the face of facts, but it sounds good when you type it, doesnt it?

In the end, this thing is nothing more than an object. Its ONLY value is to the person that posesses it. Its is soulless.

It is hardly the religion that you have apparently made it. In the end, it is simply a truck. And last time I checked.......

...I have NEVER insulted someone personally for their work. Ever. I could give a rats ass if you dont like it...thats fine with me. In fact, I suspected the reaction of the H2 Devotees to be similar to what I have seen.

I didnt expect bigotry and personal attacks.

But hey.....it IS fun. So, if ya wanna continue in this vein, I am down. I mean, other than enjoying this forum, I only have a couple other tasks...

One of which is cutting the roof off one of these things to make a convertible out of it.

Want me to post some pics?

[Roadsurfer]

Hum2:

No! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bill

[2slo4now]

hey roadsurfer

Can't say that I would spend the $25K or so to get my H2 to look like that but there is something on your truck that I like alot. What did you use to flush hummer out of the back bumper? Have you had any cracking.

You know not one single person that sees my hummer asks what kind of truck it is. They know exactly what it is without having to read advertising recessed into the back bumper.

Dan from Alabama

[PARAGON]

Roadsurfer,

I have to agree with most others on their take of your rendition of the H2, BUT when you figure out some type of convertible or even a movable roof, please post pics and details.

A forum is about sharing ideas and to post on this forum you have to take the good and the bad. I wouldn't take our negative comments personally but most of the owners feel part of a "club" that very similar to owners of jeeps, rovers and harleys for that matter.

I believe this post is the first negative comment I have made on this forum as I don't feel the need to bash someone else's tastes. Like others have said, to each his own. Creating a vehicle that barely resembles an H2 is never going to be well accepted on an H2 message board, regardless of the hard work put into it.

Again, if you work on some type of convertible or sliding roof and it is well done, I would consider buying another H2 and letting you go at it.

[Circuitguy]

Hey Road,
I think it looks sweet! That would be a real head turner! But is it real? Photoshop or Bodyshop? LMK! BIG-C

As to Badrap, he just needs a truck a little higher than that. There are a bunch of speed bumps on his 1/4 mile long drive up to his house that your H2 will never clear! HAHA! BIG-C

First American Properties Inc. 916-858-2383
White 03-H2-LUX

[Buckeye Hummer]

Well you started with this:

"Boys, boys, boys.....

At the end of the day? A Hummer is just another Chevy truck. Actually, another Chevy truck with a ton of plastic crap on the front. Gotta be honest with yourselves, fellas. Its a Tahoe, with a Jeep front end.

So, Cadillac plastic crap is somehow worse than an oversize Cherokee grille and those gay-ass H2 plastic wings on the mid bumper?"

And then you said this:

"And I have a thick skin...my motto for stock H2 owners is the same as for Corvette owners..."

"Nice hair piece, sorry about your penis"

Which was later followed by this inconsistent statement:

"I have NEVER insulted someone personally for their work"

You are right, you just insulted all H2 owners in general not on their work HYPROCRITE!

You toss stones, I take them and toss them back. It's a forum, people talk, people get mad, people get information. If you are incapable of handling criticism than don't post. We're still a free society ya know.

Good luck with your rejects I mean projects http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[rpflex]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Roadsurfer:
I'd love to enlighten you http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

...my motto for stock H2 owners is the same as for Corvette owners...

"Nice hair piece, sorry about your penis"QUOTE]

Hey Roadsurfer -

Corvette dissing, too?!? I for one have extremely thick hair and, last time I checked, didn't have a penis. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (Definitely, not wanting pity for that!)

Regardless, I feel your conversion is cool... not for everyone, but a fine example of good old American ingenuity. I like your web site as well. It's got some bugs, but the overall design is really good.

I, for one, welcome you to the forum and commend you for your replies to all the haters out there (with the exception of you corvette comment, of course).

2003 Yellow H2
2002 Millenium Yellow ZO6

[HUMMERDOGG]

roadsurfer-

Can't a brother get some pics 'round here? Are you ignoring my posts??? I am sincere when I ask you for additional pics. In between your blasting posts, can you walk outside and take some more pics and post them? If you have to, private topic them to me.

-HUMMERDOGG

*member of the "No Hummer Krew"*

[jmldenver]

Roadsurfer,

Although the design isn't for me I have to admit that is one incredible conversion. You guys should definitely be proud of the task completed and you should show it off.

I find it entertaining that so many members of this forum have gotten their butts hurt over one conversion completed on one hummer that they are likely to never even see or hear about outside of this forum. You guys have not just expressed your opinion on the conversion but you have literally taken it personal...lol...GROW UP.

[DiscoDancingRover]

Why is it seem that most people on this forum have an H2 and a vette? Don't get it. I agree with roadsufer in my dislike for that thing you call a vette. Don't see much point in a car that can't handle turns too well. I would think an NSX would go perfectly with an H2.

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"

[Roadsurfer]

HUMMERDOG

My bad....

e-mail me at bill@roadsurfer.net and I will hook you up with whatever pics you want

[Roadsurfer]

rpflex

My apologies for not specifying that my "vette" comment was gender-specific.

Call me your typical sexist, but I happen to appreciate a female in a vette http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And thanks for your comments...I fundamentally agree with the notion that conversions like this are not for the masses...but I also agree that the exercise of modifying something is part of the onward expansion of the custom truck sport...and I am all for that http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Roadsurfer]

2slo4now

That smoothed bumper is our prototype...we built that by cutting out the logo, back-glue ABS platic, and filling it with fiberglass filler.

We've had no cracking, but we are going to reproduce those as a "blank" piece, for production purposes

[Roadsurfer]

Buckeye Hummer

Sigh.....son, you're gonna have to pay closer attention if you want this schoolin' to pay off....I dont have inexhaustible patience, you know.

But, lets revist, shall we: First, discrediting an object is not the same as discrediting an individual, unless that individual identifies SO strongly with that object that he/she takes that criticism as a personal insult.

The english language has a word for that..."Materialism". Materialism is the worshiping of tangible objects.

So, here's the test: Does my identifying that the mid-bumper wings, snorkel pods, and non-fucntional cowl vents are goofy cause you personal distress?

Does my emphasis on the fact that the mid-bumper wings are a cheesy afterthought (have you looked closely at those things!? It amazes me that such in-your-face abuse of the consumer doesnt give you pause....I mean, how "Chryler-esque!") cause you to feel personally insulted?

The thing is JUST an object. The truck does not define one, unless one must be externally validated. If one IS defined by what one drives...then we have the spectre of materialism to deal with...

So, yeah. My opinion is, obviously...that its just a truck. And particularly fun to cut up, because it lights SO many peoples asses on fire http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Finally...you suggested that I just insulted all H2 owners...well, sport, that ain't entirely accurate. Simply reading the remainder of this thread will prove that.

Cheer up, princess. You'll come around, eventually http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[hinten]

Roadsurfer, everyone,
cool it everyone, it's a freaking car at the end of the day.
I for one am interested in getting more pictures of details posted. I like the idea of a smooth back bumper, I've also been looking for a different door for the trunk. I'd love to be able to open the trunk door window seperately from the door.

How about it, some more pics?

[HUMMERDOGG]

Roadsurfer-

Check your private topics when you get a chance.

-HUMMERDOGG

*member of the "No Hummer Krew"*

[Grim_Smoker]

Not hijacking the thread, just going to poke at Chris like I always do. How do you figure the vette doesn't handle well? It's out done the Viper until this year if I remember correctly, and it also outhandles the NSX as well. To each his own, I understand you aren't a big fan of the car, but don't bash it for something that isn't true! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

-Grim

2003 Sunset Metalic Orange H2 - Breathless Stage 2B, HID's, Gobi Rack & Ladder.

2003 Millenium Yellow Z06

[Buckeye Hummer]

Road Surfer,

When it degrades to name calling i.e. "princess" I stop. If you feel the need to send me something directly just open a private topic and send it to me.

Good Luck with your business.

[NCHummerman]

I have a question .... what exactly are mid-bumper wings ?

Thanks,

Michael
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Pewter Hummer H2
Northern California

www.zootsuitstore.com (http://www.zootsuitstore.com)
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[Grim_Smoker]

I took off those little plastic pieces as well, but i just left them off, looks much cleaner with the open front end IMHO.

2003 Sunset Metalic Orange H2 - Breathless Stage 2B, HID's, Gobi Rack & Ladder.

2003 Millenium Yellow Z06

[Adam in CO]

I actually replaced them with lights...

Adam P. Smith
Mortgage Pros, Inc.
303-407-2405 p
303-407-2414 f
aps101374@yahoo.com

[Adam in CO]

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Adam P. Smith
Mortgage Pros, Inc.
303-407-2405 p
303-407-2414 f
aps101374@yahoo.com

[NCHummerman]

Okay, I know what they are now .... thanks .... they are the trim pieces that help with improved gas mileage ...

Michael
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Pewter Hummer H2
Northern California

www.zootsuitstore.com (http://www.zootsuitstore.com)
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[DiscoDancingRover]

Grim you know you can't change my mind. But for what i have seen i am sticking with what i think. I bet my disco suspention would outhandle a vette if it was on a vette. I hope you get what I mean. I am tired. I have been packing for college all day, hard work. nap time.

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"

[Grim_Smoker]

Yes Chris, I know what you mean. I hate you too. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

-Grim

2003 Sunset Metalic Orange H2 - Breathless Stage 2B, HID's, Gobi Rack & Ladder.

2003 Millenium Yellow Z06

[KMAzz]

Roadsurfer:

Well I love the work done the headlights just bug me a bit.Never really liked them on the caddy either. Anyways thats a great looking truck let me know about any new toys you make http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

2003 Yellow H2
2002 Chevy Avalanche
1993 Ford Probe GT(SHOW CAR)
2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT

[aces full]

I personally thought this was a pretty classy website, but I'm dissappointed to see that the blatantly racist comment of "no one in their white mind" made it through, and was allowed to stay up. I find it very offensive, and the writer is more low rent than the HumDeVille!!!!

'03 Black H2, fairly dressed up,
'03 Powerstroke Diesel 4x4 Excursion,
'04 Red & Black Mini Cooper (on order),
'02 Black Honda Goldwing

[MAC]

acesfull, what you said is one way to look at it, but then again, most of us cannot take the trash or jokes too seriously, we all from time to say crazy stuff among friends, that does not mean we are evil racists, regardless of the color of your skin. We can't really run through life chasing demons, rescue virgins, nor can we constantly look over our shoulders to see if ACLU, NAACP or Jewish league or NOW or whatever other self-appointed institutions maybe watching or suing us. It is really no big deal, take it easy.

Almost every minute of my waking hours I am extremely careful about what I say, and I make a serious effort to be an equal, fair, just and a better man, but I am getting a bit sick and tired of being so careful to the point of being scared or affraid of even talking to close friends. Any good intentioned remark about race or religion could be misinterpreted.

We went to a 5 hours long French dinner at a friend's house tonight, at one point, we started talking/joking about certain race, I think you could hear the men and women laughing from a block away. None of what we said could ever be printed or be known outside that dining room. Honestly that happens among best close friends whatever your race maybe, or which race might be the target for the moment. It was just one of the 100 subjects we talked about tonight. None of us are racists, all of us have employees and friends of all colors.

Take it easy. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[aces full]

Mac, I won't reply further to this issue, but if you think that it's OK to make these kind of comments behind the privacy of closed doors, you're wrong. It's unacceptable to make these kind of comments, so don't tell me to "take it easy." I'm a transplanted Northerner, who wound up living in the South, and I'm exposed to ignorant bigotry every day, and I don't accept it, and I won't. Part time bad behaviour is just as bad as full time bad behaviour.I don't understand the second paragraph of your post, where you say that you're "sick and tired of being so careful to the point of being scared or afraid of even talking to close friends. Any good intentioned remark about race or religion could be misinterpreted." Do you find something good intentioned in a comment like "anyone in their white mind?"
IF you only behave decently when you're, as you say, "looking over our shoulders to see if ACLU, NAACP or Jewish league or NOW or whatever other self-appointed institutions maybe watching", that's not enough!!

As to your French dinner, if you were making comments that couldn't be printed, when you were talking/joking about certain race, I find it amusing that you let yourself off the hook by saying that none of you are racists. Exactly what do you think racists are???....because people who sit around joking about someone's race pretty well qualify as racists to me!!!!!!!

'03 Black H2, fairly dressed up,
'03 Powerstroke Diesel 4x4 Excursion,
'04 Red & Black Mini Cooper (on order),
'02 Black Honda Goldwing[bX

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[Klaus]

When I read "Northerner", "South", and "ignorant" in the same sentence, all I can say is:

Delta's ready when you are!

Klaus

"God made some men big and some men small, but Sam Colt made them all equal."

[MAC]

acesfull, you take yourself too seriously, you assume you are better and more intelligent than the others. What each one of us at that dinner have done and donated to the poor or disadvantaged in one year, regardless of their colors, could well surpass what you ever done in a lifetime. Sufficed to say that you will not change my mind and I'll not change your mind, let's leave it at that.

That reminds me of a conversation 20 years ago in Birmingham Alabama. My ex-wife's current husband was a police Captain in Birmingham, he and I turned out to be good friends and fraternity brothers, he was known to be one of the firsts to promote blacks, helped blacks and risked his life to save blacks, not a popular thing to do in Birmingham decades ago. Yet in private conversation at home, he and his friends told me they'd never socialize with blacks nor have blacks in their homes. I thought about this many times throughout the years; that clearly marked them as racists, yet what he and those few likeminded folks have quietly done far outweighted the contribution, sound and words of most others like you.

Take it easy. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Detonate]

I don't find the comment rascist. Stereotypical.... Yes. But that's just the way it goes.

I have an extremely erie gift of being able to identify the race of just about any driver on the freeway just by the look of the car, the lane the driver is driving is, and the speed at which they are traveling.

My wife will tell I can do this with about 98% accuracy.

So if I had seen that Humdewhatever driving down the road, I would have guessed a Black person was driving it without a doubt.

That does not make me a racist.

-Jim March
Arlington TX
2003 Red H2
Beauty is in the eye of the Beer Holder