Better Business Bureau hearing

[khiarrr]

I've scheduled a BBB arbitration hearing for this Wednesday, and last Thursday and Friday GM called me and made an offer to buy back my 2003 H2 with 27,000 miles for 38,000. I declined the offer and am going to the hearing on Wednesday. I'm going to insist on getting a new car or the 55,600, or I'll hire a lawyer and see them in court.

How are my chances? The car leaked, and after 5 times, the leak seemingly stopped, but it hasn't rained, so I'm not sure. Now the stereo resets every time I get in the car, and recently the car won't ignite and I have to jump start it every time.

[khiarrr]

I've scheduled a BBB arbitration hearing for this Wednesday, and last Thursday and Friday GM called me and made an offer to buy back my 2003 H2 with 27,000 miles for 38,000. I declined the offer and am going to the hearing on Wednesday. I'm going to insist on getting a new car or the 55,600, or I'll hire a lawyer and see them in court.

How are my chances? The car leaked, and after 5 times, the leak seemingly stopped, but it hasn't rained, so I'm not sure. Now the stereo resets every time I get in the car, and recently the car won't ignite and I have to jump start it every time.

[Fastest H-Town Realtor]

Let me see if I fully understand this. You used a vehicle for 2 years. It has(had) a leak that you aren't sure if it's fixed. The radio resets. And supposedly you need to jump start the truck every time you start it.

Has GM looked at the radio/start issue?

You want all of the money spent on the vehicle returned, although you obviously have gotten use out of it. So your intention is to have had a H2 to use for 2 years for free.

I think your intentions are rediculous.

Maybe Maybe , if you had under 10K miles to show that you had no use of the unit because of the problems, or had you done this within 6 months of ownership.

But to expect to drive it for free for 2 years, GM was fair in the offer given. Your greed will cause you to lose on the offer given. When all is said and done, you will be left with a settle ment of a dicount coupon and your next GM purchase.

[h2sin]

I think hes taking the punitive damages route

[lexpro]

What trim level is the H2? Where are you located?

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by khiarrr:
...GM called me and made an offer to buy back my 2003 H2 with 27,000 miles for 38,000. I declined the offer and am going to the hearing on Wednesday. I'm going to insist on getting a new car or the 55,600, or I'll hire a lawyer and see them in court.

How are my chances? The car leaked, and after 5 times, the leak seemingly stopped, but it hasn't rained, so I'm not sure. Now the stereo resets every time I get in the car, and recently the car won't ignite and I have to jump start it every time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You'd better think long and hard about taking their VERY generous offer. Your demands are very unreasonable considering you've continued to use your H2 for 2 years and have 38,000 miles on it.

BTW, where are you from?

[NoMoGMPG]

This is what people don't understand about arbitration hearings. If the arbiter believes the plaintiff or defendant (GM) is being unreasonable (which IMO you are somewhat) they will find against you and that will end your ability to go any further. In other words, you will be stuck with the vehicle you hate, the payments, plus there won't be a dealer that will touch the vehicle as long as you own it. The offer GM made was a good one, what they expected was a reasonable counter-offer or exactly what you said to them. That way they can say they attempted to be reasonable, you were not, and they prepared their defense accordingly.

IMHO, you have just screwed yourself, unless you walk in with a different attitude and are willing to accept that you did indeed get pleasure and/or business from the vehicle and that that is/was worth something.

Dave

[Buckeye Hummer]

You have to jump start the car every time?

No human being would deal with that and it would have easily been covered under a lemon law.

I call bull****.

[Kevin B]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I'm going to insist on getting a new car or the 55,600, or I'll hire a lawyer and see them in court. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Is it binding arbitration? If so, you might want to take G.M.Partsguy's advice as it might be your ONLY legal chance.

[NoMoGMPG]

This is interesting...

Quote from khiarrr pulled from Elcova archives:

I have a 2003 H2, I've had it for a couple months, but my dad drove it for a couple years before that...
I recently noticed that the carpet was wet, it was pretty bad, the insulation was soaked, and the carpet was wet all the way to the second row of seats, it messed up my DVD system...

I took it to the dealer the first time, they said it was from the truck lights on the top, and they told me they fixed it...
When they gave it back to me and it rained again, the same problem occured.
After the second time, the problem still happened when I wash my car...
After their third try at it, it still leaks...

Any ideas why it's happening, or what I can do?

EndQuote
---------------------------------------------

Now, did your DAD complain about this within the timeframe, or is just your time with it? This is beginning to smell...

Dave

[khiarrr]

Well, I'm sorry for displaying my 'greed', I'll just go on Wednesday and see what happens. I can get more than 38,000 for that car anyway.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by khiarrr:

How are my chances? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>1 in 1,000,000 chance. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[VTSTOMPER]

Should have taken the deal...it does not get that much better than that. I like that GM stepped to the plate to meet your needs.

More over, I had two leaks...fixed them myself...and I am on the road with a smile on my face...not sitting in a court room with poor lighting! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Good luck none the less!

[khiarrr]

Thanks.

[tower]

If you think you can bump them up to 40K or so, give it a try. But with 2 years and 26k mi. of use, you can't make an argument for full retail reimbursement. You can buy a used '03 in mint condition with lower mileage for less than they are offering you, so you will have a hard time getting the arbiter to side with you. If you go to court, unless your attorney is a friend or relative, they will take 30 to 40% of your settlement. That will leave you with something between $26,600 and $23,400. Good luck replacing your H2 with that amount of money!

[4churchill]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by khiarrr:
I've scheduled a BBB arbitration hearing for this Wednesday, and last Thursday and Friday GM called me and made an offer to buy back my 2003 H2 with 27,000 miles for 38,000. I declined the offer and am going to the hearing on Wednesday. I'm going to insist on getting a new car or the 55,600, or I'll hire a lawyer and see them in court.

How are my chances? The car leaked, and after 5 times, the leak seemingly stopped, but it hasn't rained, so I'm not sure. Now the stereo resets every time I get in the car, and recently the car won't ignite and I have to jump start it every time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[ROX]

Go on! Take the money and run...
by Steve Miller Band. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Ed G.]

What dealership are you taking it to?

[JamesT]

I smell troll dropping here....

[LoLo]

...wonder if I could get $38,000 for MY H2? Any takers??? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

From the trade-in values I was quoted, I would take that and RUN!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[lexpro]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by khiarrr:
Well, I'm sorry for displaying my 'greed', I'll just go on Wednesday and see what happens. I can get more than 38,000 for that car anyway. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That was my thought too...if it is an adventure or luxury in a good color with some extras it would do that wholesale here in Houston at the auction.....

[LoLo]

I now know where to come to sell my truck! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[tower]

Lex, is gas cheaper in Texas?

[ratesguy]

Right now regular unleaded is 1.98 a gallon at racetrack on Lemmon avenue in Dallas.

[redbulljunkie67]

A few days ago I was home and racetrack in North Richland Hills/Ft.Worth was $1.96

[h2sin]

I think gas prices are generally cheaper here. Houston is the oil/gas industry capital... not sure if that has anything to do with it http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[HummerNewbie]

Actually saw it at $1.99 on Monday. Most are at around $2.07 though.

[lexpro]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tower:
Lex, is gas cheaper in Texas? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dunno really i never pay attention but i guess its around 2 buck plus or minus a couple pennys...HUMMERs are hot right now at the auction...I go every tues and thurs and they are bringing all the money....i sold my 05 to a wholesaler for 49 and he got 50 for it when he ran it through...makes me feel bad that i left money on the table, but i thought i got it all already....

[lexpro]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LoLo:
I now know where to come to sell my truck! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let me know if i can help when you are ready!

[BlingBlingH2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by khiarrr:
I've scheduled a BBB arbitration hearing for this Wednesday, and last Thursday and Friday GM called me and made an offer to buy back my 2003 H2 with 27,000 miles for 38,000. I declined the offer and am going to the hearing on Wednesday. I'm going to insist on getting a new car or the 55,600, or I'll hire a lawyer and see them in court.

How are my chances? The car leaked, and after 5 times, the leak seemingly stopped, but it hasn't rained, so I'm not sure. Now the stereo resets every time I get in the car, and recently the car won't ignite and I have to jump start it every time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yo mang good luck gettn yo moneys back and shizz. dem GM SCAT box H2's and H3's aint nuttn but junk, and dar resale value is a joke. dere's a good reason dat dem things have sh1tty azz resale value... cause da SUCK and dar 6,500 lbs of trash on wheelz.

[JamesT]

Bling...I thought you were dead. Well, I was hoping anyway.

[KenP]

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[usetosellhummer]

The dude will not get 55. I can buy a 03 like that for 29-33

[LoLo]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by lexpro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LoLo:
I now know where to come to sell my truck! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let me know if i can help when you are ready! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You got it! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Fubar]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by khiarrr:
I've scheduled a BBB arbitration hearing for this Wednesday, and last Thursday and Friday GM called me and made an offer to buy back my 2003 H2 with 27,000 miles for 38,000. I declined the offer and am going to the hearing on Wednesday. I'm going to insist on getting a new car or the 55,600, or I'll hire a lawyer and see them in court.

How are my chances? The car leaked, and after 5 times, the leak seemingly stopped, but it hasn't rained, so I'm not sure. Now the stereo resets every time I get in the car, and recently the car won't ignite and I have to jump start it every time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Take the 38K and stop your bitching. Be thankful GM has made the offer they have.