Details on new accessories in 2004

[Zing]

Here are the details for what is new for 2004. Actually more that we had heard. I am glad they decided to offer grill color options.

Navigation System
Newly available for 2004 is the Delphi integrated navigation radio with full map navigation and a CD-ROM/audio player. The navigation operation will instantly map routes with 2-D and 3-D full-color map views on a 5.8-inch (147-mm) display screen with the push of a button, making maneuvering on highways and streets effortless. Once the navigation CD is inserted and the address entered on the system's screen, a route map is generated and audio commands - with step-by-step instructions in English, French or Spanish - are provided.

The verbal commands tell drivers when to turn and alert them if they stray from the calculated route; the system automatically recalculates a new route from their current position if they make a wrong turn. Additionally, drivers can instruct the navigation system to plan a route using the shortest path or one using major roads.

Other H2 Accessories
As if H2 weren't rugged or refined enough, GM offers a host of new accessories in 2004 to further enhance H2's "wow" factor. A bright appearance package includes chromed hood handles, hood latches and gas cap with filler trim. Chromed production wheels are also available. The trailering package now offered includes front hitch extension, vertical mount pin, hitch covers, electric brake harness and seven-to-four pin adapter. And three grille appearance options are offered in 2004 including body color, platinum chrome or black. For ease of access to loading items on accessory roof bows, new handles are available that mount into existing roof rails that come standard on every H2. From new chrome-plated tubular assist steps to a new chrome-plated wrap-around brush guard, and from an interior trim package to a roof-mounted bike carrier and HUMMER bike, there's an accessory to meet nearly every H2 owner's need.

[Zing]

Here are the details for what is new for 2004. Actually more that we had heard. I am glad they decided to offer grill color options.

Navigation System
Newly available for 2004 is the Delphi integrated navigation radio with full map navigation and a CD-ROM/audio player. The navigation operation will instantly map routes with 2-D and 3-D full-color map views on a 5.8-inch (147-mm) display screen with the push of a button, making maneuvering on highways and streets effortless. Once the navigation CD is inserted and the address entered on the system's screen, a route map is generated and audio commands - with step-by-step instructions in English, French or Spanish - are provided.

The verbal commands tell drivers when to turn and alert them if they stray from the calculated route; the system automatically recalculates a new route from their current position if they make a wrong turn. Additionally, drivers can instruct the navigation system to plan a route using the shortest path or one using major roads.

Other H2 Accessories
As if H2 weren't rugged or refined enough, GM offers a host of new accessories in 2004 to further enhance H2's "wow" factor. A bright appearance package includes chromed hood handles, hood latches and gas cap with filler trim. Chromed production wheels are also available. The trailering package now offered includes front hitch extension, vertical mount pin, hitch covers, electric brake harness and seven-to-four pin adapter. And three grille appearance options are offered in 2004 including body color, platinum chrome or black. For ease of access to loading items on accessory roof bows, new handles are available that mount into existing roof rails that come standard on every H2. From new chrome-plated tubular assist steps to a new chrome-plated wrap-around brush guard, and from an interior trim package to a roof-mounted bike carrier and HUMMER bike, there's an accessory to meet nearly every H2 owner's need.

[hummer33]

AWESOME. where did u find all this?

[Zing]

This came from a GM press release.

[hummer17]

Take a look below my comments for the original link and article:

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Looks like we can look forward to some new options for 2004 as well:

I especially like the idea of (mentioned in the press release):

1)chromed hood handles
2)chromed hood latches
3)new handles are available that mount into existing roof rails (like the SUT!)
4)an interior trim package (I hope there is a wood grain option and the aluminum trim rings for the A/C vents)


I don't like the idea of:

1)chrome gas cap with filler trim
2)three grille appearance options are offered in 2004 including body color, platinum chrome or black

It is very good to see that GM will allow new owners to customize their H2s even more in 2004. This is a typical practice after the initial year's run - the manufacturers typically watch the aftermarket to guage owners interest in various components and then make the most popular available as dealer installed options. This is nice for resale value because the items are GM approved and nice for the owner since they can be rolled into the financing of the vehicle.

I will be curious to see if GM actually produces these parts or if they are from one of the 3rd Party Aftermarket Manufacturers that we are all familiar with (and are advertised on this board).

What do you guys think?


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QUOTE FROM ORIGINAL HUMMER PRESS RELEASE:

http://media.gm.com/division/2004_prodinfo/hummer/h2/index.html


H2 accessories
As if H2 weren't rugged or refined enough, GM offers a host of new accessories in 2004 to further enhance H2's "wow" factor. A bright appearance package includes chromed hood handles, hood latches and gas cap with filler trim. Chromed production wheels are also available. The trailering package now offered includes front hitch extension, vertical mount pin, hitch covers, electric brake harness and seven-to-four pin adapter. And three grille appearance options are offered in 2004 including body color, platinum chrome or black. For ease of access to loading items on accessory roof bows, new handles are available that mount into existing roof rails that come standard on every H2. From new chrome-plated tubular assist steps to a new chrome-plated wrap-around brush guard, and from an interior trim package to a roof-mounted bike carrier and HUMMER bike, there's an accessory to meet nearly every H2 owner's need. For more information on H2 customized accessories, please see the release that follows Specifications.

[hummer17]

You guys think that they will do anything different to the engine tuning and programming to make a minor improvement in gas mileage?

I know, I know, you can't do much to improve when the H2 weighs as much as a house and is shaped like a brick, but given this was one of the owners' major complaints, you'd think GM would make at least a feable attempt to squeeze out another 1-2 MPG (I know - no small feat, but can be done in the aftermarket...)

[PlayTime]

Hummer17:

For tuning check out an exhaust system like CORSA - they just started a forum on this site so I checked them out.

There is also talk that a system like this will improve fuel economy - ask your dealer - they should know.

Plus CORSA is a GM licensed product - the only H2 exhaust system that is licensed!

[MAC]

I don't need nevigation system in my Hummer. I still use the old fashion method, maps. In fact, I have the same LA maps for 20 years, they don't even have some of the newer towns. LA has a million freeways, going anywhere is a matter of lots of numbers and letters, keep on changing freeways. Take 73N, 405W, 55N, 5W, 57N, 60W, etc.. That is just to meet some friends for dinner. After maybe 100 trips to LA, I still do not know it well. My wife and I will plan each trip on the map, then the co-pilot or navigator will handle the instruction. When we hit a jam, there is always another freeway exit down the road, get off 5S, take 710S, change to 405E, then 73S. One thing confusing about LA freeways is that it doesn't use North, south, east & west that much, mostly the town in the end of that freeway, you would need to know in general where that city is. I know Santa Monica is on the coast northwest of LA, that is not the direction I needed to go. Example, 710 going south, it does not say South, but Long Beach, I know Long Beach is southward to the ocean.

You also have to watch out some LA freeways exits are on the left side, you never really know which side. Some exits sort of pops out before you expected it and some exits have sharp turns. Carpool lanes have 4 solid lines or barriers you cannot get out and had me worried all the way, and they have their own connecting ramps.

Navigation system may make it easier, but what's fun in it? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[DennisAJC]

Ordered the Nav system 3 weeks ago,

apperantly it's quite fast to install.

He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover

[BKLYNH2]

Dennis
You ordered the nav system that will be in the 2004 H2?

[Skulz]

Nav systems (/w voice) don't work too well in LA when the exits are very close to each other and/or on opposite sides of the road. This speaking from personal experience http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
Otherwise, they work great!

[Hummer Man]

NAV SYSTEMS are for girls! The way I give my wife directions is just use different malls in the area and guide her from there. SHE KNOWS WHERE ALL THE MALLS ARE!!!

[DRTYFN]

Dennis,
Is the new nav system compatible with your 2003 H2? I wish GM would put out a new radio with XM capabilities. The FM modulator trick doesn't excite me.

[DennisAJC]

The guys at Dueck Hummer made a few calls, found the part number. $2200 Canadian dollars
(about $30 US? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif) all they do is unplug the cd stacker and plug in the new one, that's what they tell moi.

Hummer Man (ya creepy freek) it's used for travelling into the US where we don't know Mall locations, and also camping.

He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover

[MAC]

Why is Hummer Man "H2 Fanatic Extraordinaire"? Did you buy that title? I don't see anyone else with that title. You don't happened to be Jason too, are you? "Extraordinaire", sounds French.

Talking about accessories, will they have a nicer and stronger front license plate holder? I lost mine between Los Angeles and San Francisco, anywhere on those 400 miles. So if you happen to be going up Highway 5, and you see some nice black HUMMER frame with nasty screws sticking up there, pick it up for me please. You can keep the frame as your reward but give me back my plate. If you run over them, you will have to stop anyway. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Anyone has any good suggestion as alternative front license plate holder? Wonder maybe someone stole it while I was in LALALAND, you guys down there if you see a nice Hummer frame on a non-Hummer, get it back for me please.

[DRTYFN]

Mac,
you want mine? I haven't put a plate on the front of my vehicles for 20 years.

[Hummer Man]

MAC, thanks for calling it to everyones attention but I have had that title for months!

[WhiteH2Kid]

Dam some awsome new options i wanna sell mine for an 04 now hehe.....think it would be possible to switch my stereo unit to the GPS/map unit???

[DennisAJC]

Yes you can,

It's all cosmetic stuff. The NAV system is a perfect fit but alot of money.

He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover

[Zing]

Stupid question. Do these Nav systems have a monthly or annual subscription cost associated with them? I would imagine so since GPS needs to pinpoint where you are via satelite.

[DennisAJC]

Nope,

Just like the handheld GPS, it's free. It will find your position by the satellite positions available and it will lace over a map supplied via CD...something like that. But it is free.

He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover

[MAC]

DRTYFN, I think I'm gonna get a new set of license plates that starts with 5. My current plate starts with 4Z, the last of 4s. I can pretend to be a newer Hummer for whatever reason I can't really figure it out yet, and I don't think I'll put up a front plate anymore. I can find something to fill that square hole, maybe a statue of Elvis. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Dick Lyon]

I have a winch instead of a front license plate and I pay $1.30 for gas........Never regretted the move from CA to NC.......especially now when the DMV fees here are $21 a year and sales tax on a Hummer is 3%.

Sounds like the GPS is a simple install...might could use it here.

[DennisAJC]

The only change they will make to mine from the 6 stacker to the NAV is an extra wire to share the On-Star antenna for the GPS. 2004 model is almost exactly the same. If you don't like the NAV, the 6 stacker is available from the 2003 model. Same wiring harness, just an extra line for the GPS(to the On-Star antenna).

I'll post photos of mine when it's in. And I'll try to get the stock# for you guys if you need.

He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover

[MAC]

I just got the CA registration renewal notice, $361. Hard to imagine almost a year with the Hummer.
The regular gas is $1.89 to $2.09 now in No Callif. $1.75-$1.89 on highway 5, and $1.71 to $1.95 in Southern California.

I've been to NC, I like it there. $3M house here sells for $300K there, people are super friendly and well mannered. I met someone in a CA party, she visited NC a month before we visited, she said everyone is a racist and people were rude, she hated NC. We both visited Charlotte for about a week, amazing how differently we saw the same city and people.

[Detonate]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
The only change they will make to mine from the 6 stacker to the NAV is an extra wire to share the On-Star antenna for the GPS. 2004 model is almost exactly the same. If you don't like the NAV, the 6 stacker is available from the 2003 model. Same wiring harness, just an extra line for the GPS(to the On-Star antenna).

I'll post photos of mine when it's in. And I'll try to get the stock# for you guys if you need.

He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>What? I thought the OnStar Antenna was Cellular, and that's why it hardly works when out in the boonies.

If my GPS is going to work as infrequently as OnStar, I'm worried....

-Jim March
Arlington TX
2003 Red H2
Beauty is in the eye of the Beer Holder

[Steve R]

So let me get this straight: no licorice dispenser for 2004??? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I just installed a Garmin 5 GPS and it's all good. You can program in maps, track trails, gag mileage, elevation....just about everything. Best of all....I can easily pull it off the dash and take it with me to other vehicles, camping, etc.

Cost is about $450. It sits just behind the center air vents, faily low-profile, no holes need to be drilled! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Albie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dick Lyon:
I have a winch instead of a front license plate and I pay $1.30 for gas........Never regretted the move from CA to NC.......especially now when the DMV fees here are $21 a year and sales tax on a Hummer is 3%.

Sounds like the GPS is a simple install...might could use it here.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


LOL I thought I scored the motherload here when I bought gas this morning for $1.85

thats it moving out of Cali

[Zing]

One thing I'm learning about the Nav system for 2004. It seems that it cannot be ordered along with the 6-cd changer. The two are not compatible, which will be the same in the 2003.

[Spidey]

I think for $2200 Canadian I'll stick with the 6 - cd changer rather then go the Navigation System. $2200 will buy me either a lot of maps,or about 8 years worth of On Star or even some great other accessories mentioned. The System Steve has sounds pretty good if I want to go that route. It's Hard to think of mine as "last years model already" I guess it will impact me more in the near future when I see One of these "Chromed Bohemoths" pull up beside me. Cross that bridge when it comes ......

[DennisAJC]

Zazing,

The NAV system will only take 1 cd or 1 dvd. So if you get lost while watching "Babes of Ball Land" , you have to swap to the map cd.

As for removing my 6 stacker, the dimensions are exactly the same.

Detonate,

On-Star uses both cellular and GPS from what I'm told. I may be wrong, but I'll find out soon enough.

He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover

[hummer17]

I am confused.

I've heard that the Nav system for 2004 will be the same as the Escalade Nav system (would make sense - both are GM/Delphi units in nearly the same dash).

In the Escalade with Nav, the Nav takes a DVD, then the 6-CD Changer is below.

It just doesn't make sense that you'd have a Nav system and not be able to play a CD at the same time - I don't know of a single auto manufacturer that sets up their vehicles that way.

Take a look below at the Caddy setup - you'll see the Nav and then the place to load 6 CDs just below the clock - right where our OnStar is located in the H2. Simple solution - move the OnStar to the rear view mirror just like the Caddy.

[Zing]

You make a good point h17 that you should be able to play CDs and have DVD navigation at the same time, but what I've heard from Hummer is consistent with Dennis.

They did say it is likely to be a Delphi/GM unit, much like the Escalade. Maybe the H2 dash is not constructed as efficienltly as the Escalade to have room for both?

[MAC]

Z, I thought you have the 04 dash photo which you posted before. Can you post again?

This is 03 dash, far better looking than Cadillac dash, that Cadillac dash looks OLD, looks like senior citizen RV.

[MAC]

Take a close look at that Cadillac senior citizen dash, the thing under the nagiv. is the climate control unit. Under the oldman clock, that is one ugly and tiny CD unit, could it be that the stereo was moved to the roof console with the drop down DVD/LVD? That is not a safe place to be/use. I checked my 02 Escalade brochures, Navig. is not available for 02. Looks like GM has some catch-up to do to match those big hi-tech screens on the Japanese and German cars. This GM navig. screen looks dated.

[Zing]

I don't recall posting the '04 dashboard. Maybe it was our founding member Hummerman.

[hummer17]

Nav is available for 03 on the Caddy Escalade.

As in the picture, the radio controls are on the LCD screen of the Nav. One CD/DVD is loaded behind the LCD screen (which flips forward) and is used only for the navigation information.

The CD changer (for music) is located under the clock (see picture above) and is again controlled by the LCD of the Nav system (which is a touch screen).

I have test driven the Caddy Escalade and seen this in person plus I have the 03 brochure which states the same.

I'm also taking the 24 hour test drive tomorrow, so I'll confirm again. (*Unfortunately, none of the Hummer dealers were participating in the 24 hour drive program in my area, but I still wanted to drive one of the new GMs before purchasing. I'm 99% sure I'll still choose the H2.)

[hummer17]

Well, just got done with a 24 hour test drive on the Escalade.

We should all hope that the 2004 H2 gets the same Navigation system.

The Escalade system is DVD driven and has the following features:

1 Band of AM (presets)
2 Bands of FM (presets)
Integrated XM radio (as an option)
Integrated control of the 6-CD changer
Navigation

The controls on the system and features including the interface are great. Couldn't ask for a better system and I have recently played with both the Infiniti and Lexus Nav systems. The GM/Delphi systems beats them all hands-down.

Any specific questions, let me know.

[Dunefreak]

Does the integrated 6 disc reside behind the nav screen or does it take up another spot. The only other spot I see in the H2 would be to remove the OnStar controls. No big deal as I have no intention of using OnStar.

i am very interested in this swap to a Nav as we are going to use the H2 as a dingy behind our motorhome, so the nav for travelling in new cities would be a fabulous addition.

If I could swap one in now, I would order it immediately.

edit: I read your previous post (after I posted) where you stated the changer was a separate piece. Will it fit the OnStar slot if the OnStar is removed?

[hummer17]

Look at the picture I posted above of the Caddy dash. The 6-CD changer is just below the clock.

This is approximately the same space where the OnStar system is in the H2.

The fix/retrofit/new way to do it for the 2004 seems pretty straightforward to me:

Put the OnStar system on the rear view mirror (like the Escalade) and put the 6-CD changer unit where the OnStar system currently is in the H2. The only engineering challenge that GM may be trying to surmount is that the shifter may (*repeat may - I haven't measured this) be in the way of getting CDs in and out of the changer.

This may be why GM hasn't firmed up exactly which Nav system is being used in the 2004 H2.

By the way - a single DVD (for maps) loads just above the Nav screen. Yes, I tried a movie DVD - does not work. One DVD contains all of the US and Canada.

[Dan]

Gotta love that column mounted shifter on the Caddy! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

- Dan

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http://www.microfunds.com/images/sut_sm.jpg SUT on order since 12/02 - 11 months to go!
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[Dunefreak]

I spoke with the shop that runs nav-tv.com to see if they make a module to allow tv on the nav. THEY DO, but only for the GM nav that is the one where the Nav DVD is located out of the main nav unit. I guess they said the module is for the version that goes in the Denali. Anyone seen one of these? I wonder if that system would also work in the H2. I like to build Nav/Video systems that appear stock in my venicles. I think they are less likely to become a target for thieves. The one I had sone in my BMW 740 all hides when not in use except for the screens in the backs of the headrests which are not seen throught the tinted windows. I would like to do the same sort of setup in the H2.

[NJ H2]

Any idea if VSS parts are needed for dead reckoning and how they will hook up?

[BKLYNH2]

It seems like GM is really in the dark with GPS. Perhaps they could have Honda do a little engineering for them. Their systems are quite good from what I here. I can forgive them for not having it all together for the first year, but for the 2004 the H2 should be state of the art. This is after all a luxury car by their standards. If Garmin can put together a very good GPS in a 4"x4"x9" box or even a Palm PC sized object why can't GM do the same or better inside something as large as an H2 and keep the 6CD player?.
NJ H2 - I'm not quite sure what your reffering to, but FYI Garmin is about to release a street pilot GPS that has dead reckoning capability. As I have never had any GPS yet I am not sure how important this is. It seems like a lot of extra hook ups to attach if its not part of a gps intergrated into the dash. I'm also not sure if dead reckoning would work off road where direction changes may be frequent and subtle, as opposed to city driving where you will more often make 90° turns.

[NJ H2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
NJ H2 - I'm not quite sure what your reffering to, but FYI Garmin is about to release a street pilot GPS that has dead reckoning capability. As I have never had any GPS yet I am not sure how important this is. It seems like a lot of extra hook ups to attach if its not part of a gps intergrated into the dash. I'm also not sure if dead reckoning would work off road where direction changes may be frequent and subtle, as opposed to city driving where you will more often make 90° turns.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) Hooks to the The Transfer Case Module and to the back of the DVD NAV. It will keep you on track even if you have no signal from the Satellites, by telling the NAV how fast you are going and if you go in reverse. Basically, it keeps you on track in conjunction with the Satellites.
As for showing your position off road it does on my ML, and I would guess this 1 would also.

[Hummer Man]

BKLYNH@, Dead reckoning is of value both on and off road. All of GARMI's 3000 series products will have it for 04'. The reason they can incorporate it now is you can now TRIANGULATE off of up to 7 satellites instead of 3.