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JCJ
12-23-2003, 12:11 PM
This bride was also so very much in love with my H2, I made an exception driving her, o yeah, and her groom, on their wedding day!

JCJ
12-23-2003, 12:11 PM
This bride was also so very much in love with my H2, I made an exception driving her, o yeah, and her groom, on their wedding day!

JCJ
12-23-2003, 12:14 PM
Here comes the bride:

JCJ
12-23-2003, 12:17 PM
In Wholy Matrimony...

JCJ
12-23-2003, 12:25 PM
The Pastor taking a peek:
"Bless this truck!"

FrgMstr
12-24-2003, 01:50 AM
Does the wing do anything functional like keeping dirt off the rear window or is it all show??

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Black 2003 H2 - Just like most of yours, just possibly with less crap bolted on.

My job: http://www.HardOCP.com

PARAGON
12-24-2003, 01:12 PM
Actually the spoiler is very purposeful. Since most of the weight of the H2 is at the front, when air-dropped from the C-130 in an urban shopping mall crisis the spoiler keeps the H2 from nose-diving and helps it land on all fours.

FrgMstr
12-24-2003, 02:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FrgMstr:
Does the wing do anything functional like keeping dirt off the rear window or is it all show??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now, now, I'm going to have to quote your own words back to you now;

"is knocking down what other's like just a part of your personality?"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unlike you who called people that had smoked lenses "drug dealers" as a statement of fact, I asked a question that was honest and did not attack the person posting. And just for the record I have done a lot of volunteer work in Nueces county helping people try and break their heroin addictions as well as AIDS awareness classes and screening. So yes, I will have smoked lenses and no, I will not sell drugs to people from the doors of my truck.

Phil, I know you have owned a couple of Hummers, but I am sure I was driving 4x4 vehicles back even when you had hair. There have been some products on the market, very much like the spoiler pictured that were designed with a purpose beyond aesthetics in mind. I do not have anything against Paragon having a spoiler on his truck and actually think it looks pretty "cool". Also I never knocked him but was looking to him for a bit of intelligence about the product. If it helped keep the window clear, I would think of purchasing one.

As for your comments about slow speeds, well no duh. It is a "wing" not a windshield wiper which I think anyone can see and I think most people of average intelligence realize that a wing needs airflow to function. I think you got your feelings hurt because I called you on being what I thought was an ass. (See that is a statement of opinion and not a statement of fact.) Brush the dirt off, lick your wound and go on. You need to apply your little guerrilla tactics to posts that don't involve you and obviously you really have no knowledge of or at least you did not express it that way.

Thanks or Paragon for answering my question in a humorous manner. You letting me know your experience with the product is what I wanted to know. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I think you should paint it to match though!!

Merry Christmas to all. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Even PhilD.

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Black 2003 H2 - Just like most of yours, just possibly with less crap bolted on.

My job: http://www.HardOCP.com

PARAGON
12-24-2003, 03:13 PM
Whoa there, FrgMstr! That spoiler is not on my rig. I have had those on the back of other vehicles and if you are at speed all of the time, they work, but their overall function does not outweigh the less than appealing aesthetic value. They don't look very good and don't work very well.

FrgMstr
12-24-2003, 03:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by paragon:
Whoa there, FrgMstr! That spoiler is not on my rig. I have had those on the back of other vehicles and if you are at speed all of the time, they work, but their overall function does not outweigh the less than appealing aesthetic value. They don't look very good and don't work very well.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry I got distracted with another subject. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I think it actually looks ok, as long as it is not CHROME! Hehe.

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Black 2003 H2 - Just like most of yours, just possibly with less crap bolted on.

My job: http://www.HardOCP.com

JamesT
12-24-2003, 04:01 PM
I have a spoiler on mine (see pic) and what a difference in gas mileage and power. Prior to the spoiler I was getting 11.5 MPG and now I get 22 MPG. Lets hear anyone talk crap now about the spoilers.

"Dont be the next anything...be the first something."

www.fixmyprinter.com (http://www.fixmyprinter.com)

JamesT
12-24-2003, 04:08 PM
For those who take all of this stuff so seriously...my last was a joke. My H2 does not get 22MPG with the spoiler. Thats crazy! With the spoiler and the 6" lift and 18" tires I only get 19 MPG. Phil is a witness.

"Dont be the next anything...be the first something."

www.fixmyprinter.com (http://www.fixmyprinter.com)

PARAGON
12-24-2003, 04:43 PM
I wonder what kinda mileage you would get if you added a front spoiler on the hood and possibly an airdam down below?

If you would add spoilers that provide lift instead of downforce you could lessen the rolling resistance of the tires and therefore increase your mileage threefold.

FrgMstr
12-24-2003, 04:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
FrstMgr, I had my doubts about you, thanks for removing them, now I have no doubts http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are welcome you obviously needed help understanding.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Seeing as you brought the subject of your 4WD prowess I can't help asking, when did you have your first 4WD? Yes, I did have hair when I had mine.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

1982. And I am pretty sure you had hair back then, although I could be very wrong as there were not many traces on your head to go by. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>BTW I don't recall calling anyone a drug dealer as "statement of fact", I made a light hearted reference to people that pimp up their trucks. Whether you care to admit it or not, lot's chrome, large rims, darkened lenses, etc are all styling traits of a certain lifestyle.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you go back and read what you wrote you will see that what I am saying is 100% correct. Seek out an English teacher if need be. Also, the thread you made your drug dealer comments in was not about lots of chrome and larege rims....It was about us removing all the Chrome and black powder coating the stock rims. So by your own admission your comments were not well placed.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Your question was pure sarcasm to start with. You really are a piece of work...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I see you are one of those people that has access to everyone's thoughts and feelings and is able to pinpoint what other posters really mean. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif <---- See that? That is what I use when I post sarcastic comments.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The reason I brought the not keeping the rear screen clean bit, was due to the fact that previously when this subject was discussed that was brought up as a reason to have a spoiler.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I guess you wouldn't have come off like you did had you actually explained that. I do not have the power of knowing what is going on inside you head, sorry.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>You really shouldn't take an internet forum so seriously.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who said I did? Maybe you should apply this to yourself and your actions here. Again you make assumptions you are not close to being qualified to comment on. Maybe I saw you make a comment that was not well thought out and I wanted to bring that to your attention. Maybe that made you a bit upset and caused you to fire back instead of saying, "You are right, sorry to come off as an ass." Maybe I administer a forum that has over 30,000 active members and I have learned how to deal with folks like you when it comes to making a point?

The bottom line is this. You likely came into this thread to attack me because you felt wronged by my actions earlier that called your poor posting etiquette into question when you should have just said sorry for basically calling me a “drug dealer” for wanting smoked lenses. It was insulting to me. Funny that you can share your opinion about what I like in the way you did but when I share my opinion that you are basically just a little out of line you get all in a snoot and must lash out against me. I actually thought we were by this but you brought it up again so I answered. Now you want to call me a piece of work because you are again upset that I brought your post into question. Personally, I am waiting to see what your logic comes up with next. This is just now getting fun on my end. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <---- That means this made me smile.

Heck, I just wanted to know from a guy that owned a spoiler if it kept dirt off the window.

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Black 2003 H2 - Just like most of yours, just possibly with less crap bolted on.

My job: http://www.HardOCP.com

FrgMstr
12-24-2003, 05:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by paragon:
I wonder what kinda mileage you would get if you added a front spoiler on the hood and possibly an airdam down below?

If you would add spoilers that provide lift instead of downforce you could lessen the rolling resistance of the tires and therefore increase your mileage threefold.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But just remember at slow speeds, your spoilers won't work. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif It has to do with air turbulence and stuff. Hehe.

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Black 2003 H2 - Just like most of yours, just possibly with less crap bolted on.

My job: http://www.HardOCP.com

FrgMstr
12-24-2003, 06:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
Kylie, you really think too much of yourself, not every post is aimed at you. The post I made making the drug dealer comment, that hit such a raw nerve with you, was in reply to a post by KenP, not to any post made by yourself.

I have long since forgotten about your comments about such and moved on with another day. May I suggest you do the same?

I see a post from yourself, but it could have been from anyone, asking what can only be described as a sarcastic question, smiley face or not. I answer it, as others did, with some degree of sarcasm. I also included some comments on the ineffectiveness of spoilers to clear dirt, and also make the comment that they are one of the nicer cosmetic accessories for the H2.

In return, you continue with your petty attack against me. You no doubt think you are been clever, but if you were so smart, you wouldn't have gotten all upset in the first place about a harmless comment, bah, bah, bah...

BTW I bought my first LandRover in 1981 http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I really have better things to do with my day, and I'm sure you do too. So I'm adding you to my ignore list and getting on with the day.

Have a nice life http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess if you really had forgotten about the issue as you say then you would not be quoting it yet again in this thread.

And if you really had better things to do with your day, then you would be doing them and not writing about this any more wouldn't you.

You guys that write checks with your keyboards that you can't cash are always funny to me.

I will not be putting you on my ignore list. I don't need the help of the help of the computer to ignore people. hehe. I do have to say thanks for the entertainment this morning though. Have a good Christmas Eve Phil. See you in SA soon. (The ignore list won't work there.) http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Black 2003 H2 - Just like most of yours, just possibly with less crap bolted on.

My job: http://www.HardOCP.com

JCJ
12-24-2003, 06:21 PM
Hey, guys,
yeah: you "H2 veterans" and "H2 guru's",
Let's try to be "H2 buddies" as well, please!
JCJ
H2 professional

PS I installed the spoiler to show I'm also spoiled.

Merry X'mass!!!

FrgMstr
12-24-2003, 06:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JCJ:
Hey, guys,
yeah: you "H2 veterans" and "H2 guru's",
Let's try to be "H2 buddies" as well, please!
JCJ
H2 _professional_

PS I installed the spoiler to show I'm also spoiled.

Merry X'mass!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Roger that JCJ! The best idea I have heard yet.

As noted above, I actually kinda like the spoiler for some reason, but the cost of it is just a bit too high for my thin wallet.

And you can spell out Merry CHRISTmas around here, I don't think that will upset PhilD or me. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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Black 2003 H2 - Just like most of yours, just possibly with less crap bolted on.

My job: http://www.HardOCP.com

devilsfan
12-25-2003, 01:56 AM
As a drug dealer, I've found this entire thread EXTREMELY offensive.

Stacy

2003 yellow Lux series
Sunroof, 3rd row seat, yellow painted dash, locking gas cap
Tree-hugger embedded in grill http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MAC
12-25-2003, 06:43 PM
I like to watch people fight or spit at each others. What is more fun than having Mad Dog and Englishman punching each others out on X'mas eve at a Aruba wedding, plus the usual drug dealers with a hurt feeling? with a mix of real science of aerodynamics. You got all the characters of a 3rd grade cheap budget movie. In the future, I would appreciate it if you guys can announce the fight in the general discussion section, many of us honorable citizens do not frequent the small alleys. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JCJ
12-25-2003, 11:12 PM
The real Guru has spoken.
Guys, now on with the H2olidays!
And yes, Aruba is the place to be now!
Especially because I'm on call these days...

cmb31078
12-26-2003, 05:56 AM
JCJ,
I see there is a orange H2 in the picture. So you are not the only one anymore down there? Also I will be there for two weeks in March. The second and third week. Let me know where you work. I would love to stop by and see it. PM if you would like.

Craig

04 Pewter H2- Lux,nav, air suspension

H2mike
01-09-2004, 10:30 AM
JCJ,
I was in Aruba from Dec 26-Jan 2. I think I may have seen your H2. Were you parked near the Seaport Casino/ Marina? It was right around the 29th or 30th. If so, the truck looks good...sticking out over all of the small Arubian cars! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JCJ
01-09-2004, 10:58 AM
Yup, Mike, that was mine allright.
Thanks for the appreciation!
You were (are still) welcome to call, BTW.
Easy: call Hospital, they (should) know how to locate me.
Tomorrow I'm off to Snowmass, Colorado, seminar, and yes, also skiing (after 8+ years).
Any H2 buddies around Aspen?

H2mike
01-09-2004, 05:52 PM
If I break my leg or catch a cold the next time I am down there, I will ask for you to pick me up! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif There is a chance I may be back down to Aruba in February. If so, I will look for you. Also, do you know the guy who owns the H1? I seen that roaming around down there.