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johndjmix1
08-16-2007, 06:27 PM
Ill tell you guys, the Magnason supercharger on my truck works so well. After about a two months I am very happy with it, the truck runs as smooth as stock but with tons of more usable power.

I have been running 87 octane fuel with no pinging, maybe its because of the low altitude of Long Island, but it definatly does not detinate! Which is great.

I know if i was to chane the pully for more boost it proboly would start pinging, so im not going to, but im curious if anyone has tried a smaller pully...

--John

stagger_lee
08-16-2007, 08:02 PM
Hey John, Do you get that beautiful Maggie whine? My Dad has a maggie on his GTO. Just curious if it sounds the same on the H2. Love that sound.:beerchug:

usetosellhummer
08-16-2007, 08:27 PM
Should whine like a bit*h. watch temps and I am not familier with that charger but keep it maintained. they lock up on you and it's a problem.

KenP
08-16-2007, 08:40 PM
I know if i was to chane the pully for more boost it proboly would start pinging, so im not going to, but im curious if anyone has tried a smaller pully...

--JohnYes and I used 93 octane at sea level. You can also change your program by contacting Nelson, as TAZ has recommended him often and is an expert at that stuff.

IRA51
08-16-2007, 10:39 PM
Bet it makes you smile when it wines. that will improve your throttle response 100% . most times a good dose of $$$$ can improve anything. they should have had a SC from the factory .

CONRAD II
08-17-2007, 02:51 PM
I changed the pulley on my mag charger and brought it up to 8lbs of boost. So far so good with my mag, truck runs as reliably as stock but with tons more power. BTW, I don't find that the mag charger wines very much at all, if it wasn't for the power I don't know if I would know it was there at all.:clapping: :perfect10s: :clapping:

johndjmix1
08-17-2007, 04:31 PM
Yea, doesnt whine that much, but under hard accelleration it makes a electric golf cart whine.

There really is no maintnance, I called mag and they dont recomend changing the oil till 100,000 miles. I checked the oil in mine anyways and it was fresh out of the bottle clean (And thats after 30K miles)...

-John

Agriv8r
08-17-2007, 07:40 PM
need some video......

Grizzy
08-28-2007, 03:00 AM
Just installed my magnacharger this past friday night. All I can say is, WOW! I did happen to take video of my SUT going 0-60mph before the upgrade. I will get a new video now that everything is installed and post them both to my web site. I also have a couple condenser mics and will soon get a good quality audio recording of the new magnaflow exhaust combined with under-the-hood sound, such as the magnacharger winding up.


Grizzy

pteam
08-28-2007, 04:44 AM
Any of you guys having tranny problems? I've read several people that have blown trannys due to superchargers.

Grizzy
08-28-2007, 04:50 AM
Not sure about everyone else, but I plan on upgrading the torque converter in mine. Perhaps put corvet servos in as well. Did the same thing to my tahoe and the transmission lasted until I sold it which was well over 100k miles.

Grizzy
08-28-2007, 04:57 AM
Ok I just threw together a little video showing 0-60mph before the supercharger, showing underneath the hood the morning I finished installing the supercharger, and a video showing 0-60mph with the supercharger. The first run took approx. 14secs, the second run took approx. 8 secs, and this was with the factory set 6psi boost.

http://www.atvparkvideo.com/videos/hummer.wmv


Sorry the file size is so big on the video, I'll compress it to a lower resolution tomorrow for those of you without broadband.


Grizzy

pteam
08-28-2007, 05:14 AM
wow that really has a loud supercharger whine. Do you love it or do you think it will get annoying? Does it not do it under light to med acceleration?

KenP
08-28-2007, 05:30 AM
Ok I just threw together a little video showing 0-60mph before the supercharger, showing underneath the hood the morning I finished installing the supercharger, and a video showing 0-60mph with the supercharger. The first run took approx. 14secs, the second run took approx. 8 secs, and this was with the factory set 6psi boost.

http://www.atvparkvideo.com/hummer/hummer.wmv


Sorry the file size is so big on the video, I'll compress it to a lower resolution tomorrow for those of you without broadband.


GrizzyLink is not working.

Here's our first H2 gettin' it:
http://www.lingenfelter.com/0-60_000.mpeg

Tons more HP left under the hood we could have tuned in, but it was reliable and useable offroad. Though we did blow a TC in Moab.

Grizzy
08-28-2007, 05:31 AM
I've noticed that the supercharger whine really depends on how much throttle you give it. When I increase speed/rpm's slowly, you never really hear it, even up to 3-5k rpm's, BUT, if you're really putting the pedal down, you hear it almost immediately throughout the entire rpm range. It actually seemed louder on the video clip than it did to me when I was actually doing the test. When I drive normally, I hardly hear it at all. So its really nice.

Notice that long delay between shifting from 1st to 2nd gear? This is why I will be upgrading to corvette servos in the very near future. Make the transmission last a hell of alot longer.


Grizzy

Grizzy
08-28-2007, 05:33 AM
Link is not working.


Sorry about that, I was trying to upload a different version of the video, better compression/lower file size. My server was giving me an error message when I tried to delete the original file on server, so I just changed the path to it. I updated my post to show the new link. Here it is again, and with a much lower file size.

http://www.atvparkvideo.com/videos/hummer.wmv


Grizzy

KenP
08-28-2007, 05:35 AM
OK. link is working.

HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ
08-30-2007, 11:08 AM
I can't imagine myself not loving the supercharger whine or ever getting use to the rise in blood pressure. Whine will be matched to rpm supplied at any given time. You can insulate the firewall and inside of hood more and it will cut back on sound more. Type of air cleaner system in the rig can make a difference also. Even before my SC was installed I had rig tuned well and a aftermarket intake system trying to pull in as much air as I could. The passenger up front could hear the roar of the suction the intake system allowed. Power needs more fuel and air so when you go with power you get more noise and smaller wallet.

You can do anything with any ride it just takes desire and money. If it gets broke it only takes money to get you going again. I do not mean this directed to anyone just in general if you get to playing with high end rides and then boosting performance money really does not need to be a consideration. So it means maybe you do not buy any given high end ride and mess with it if you do not want to start spending extra cash. You most likely can buy one and leave it stock then not get into extra cash outlays, though not likely just due to the nature of any high priced ride.

I like the story most have heard in one form or another. A guy goes to a JAG dealer and after some looking with test driving the shopper asked the salesman well what is MPG, tuneup, and regular maintanence cost on this ride? The salesman replied (yes you know the answer already) Sir if you are looking at paying 100 grand and you are concerned with these small items I suggest you are looking at the wrong brand of automobile. You should go down the street and look at the Yugo dealership.

Oh well, Taz's occasional soap box talk for what it's worth.
Happy driving gang whether off road or show and shine crowd. The best thing we all found was a common interest, NO rather LOVE of Hummer's no matter which model and how we use them.

WE JUST LOVE THE RIG'S

TAZ

obzidian
09-17-2007, 09:59 PM
nice!! I think that more importantly, if you want to work on the shift extension, then get an aftermarket torque converter.

On average, with a good, efficient torque converter and a decent STR (stall torque ratio) you'll be able to cut off a few tenths of your 0-60, 60ft., 1320 times and mph.

Im a f-body, you can gain anywhere from .3-.6 tenths off your 14mile time. So, going from a 13.5 to atleast a 13.0 or a 12.9, if you have a good tire under it.

So, a corvette servo set will feel as if the shifts are "hitting" harder, however, if you want the trans to be more productive: I would suggest a Torque Converter with a higher STR and Stall (maybe for a rig like ours, with a SC, something like a 2500-3000 with a 2.3-2.5str), trans clutch,pump vane, kevlar bands, etc... and those servos.

good luck and your truck rocks!! Love the vid, need more of those around here.

obzidian
09-17-2007, 10:00 PM
Link is not working.

Here's our first H2 gettin' it:
http://www.lingenfelter.com/0-60_000.mpeg

Tons more HP left under the hood we could have tuned in, but it was reliable and useable offroad. Though we did blow a TC in Moab.

Ken, did the lingenfelter kit come with a stall converter? Seems as if your revs climbed way to fast and a specific point when you smashed the pedal to be a stock converter. I'm guessing a 3500rpm stall by the looks of it.

HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ
09-18-2007, 11:10 AM
Ken may correct me but, his 03 was basicly the prototype SC kit by LPE for H2's and I'm almost 100% sure it had a aftermarket converter on it. Not sure of RPM but, thought it was 2500 RPM. Ken is modest about his rig being built as a test type setup as they had to do several tuning changes etc. I think it was his Moab trip in 2006 that he had to pass Dragon's shop on I-40 east in Arkansas to drop PARAGON off in Mississippi but, I was going to work on his tune for a whole day if they came through during the day which did not work out. I had gotten software from my HPTUNERS sponsor to tune 03/04 rigs and my 05 kit and software for my "99" 5.3 Silverado. The 05 was different from the 2 earlier years. I was not going to be able to wideband tune but, I was going to hook my laptop up and get him another 75HP give or take plus more torque. LPE had his rig tuned down allot with his Keene Bell boost a pump dialed in rich and I understand their position as they furnished a warranty so they protect themselves just as any of the handheld tuners do as well. They are leaving easily another 35 to 50 HP plus torgue on the table because they do not want problems so they know some people are buying these things not knowing what to do really but, you have to start someplace so do not be afraid there are people here that will answer questions if possible. I know I sure will when I'm feeling good enough to check the forum. If i have not answered yet PM me or try rlove@HummerCustoms.com.

While on handhelds I have ran Hypertech far back into the 90's on Chevy trucks and I always ran my settings on full performance but, on lowest octane. Why, because I have talked with a guy in Memphis at Hypertech a programer and how the tolerance is so huge in their tunes. Now the guy would never have admitted it but, I know what I heard and I heard it from the programer of the Power Programer also by Specialty Performance in North Little Rock, AR just 20 minutes from my house. I feel these guys near my area may be the best GM product performance developement guys I know not counting HPTUNERS of course. Yet these guys later are going to work with me doing some head and cam swaps trying ideas they have for the 6.0L using HPTUNERS software.

They both said we have to protect the consumer. I ran the most volitale fuel which is 87, 89 octane and it will give you more bang for the buck and you will not get a check engine light due to the knock retard kicking in. Before the SC I ran my H2 that way also. I do not recommend this I'm just sharing my experience over a long period. If you do it and are a little nervous just drop down to a cooler set of plugs and it will give you some cushion of which I was not worried about. My advice always comes at the risk of the reader but, i will be honest about my real world testing you do what you want. I really do normally mess around on the edge of boom allot in one area or another.

My advice is if you go with handheld go with the Superchips as HPTUNERS started providing the tunes that are in these tuners back sometime during spring of 2006 and may have been winter of 05 as the HP guys signed the deal with MSD which owns Superchips after SEMA of 2005. I met with them then and they would not come out and say so but, they had grins so big you could not have wiped them off. HP guys made the Superchips the most vercital at that time of any on the market. Just compare and read to see how much alterations one handheld will allow versus another brand. You can read that on the box or instructions. The 3 young, at the time 20 something, owners and developers of HPTUNERS have been really good guys and actual still moderate their own forum with help from others. If you read something by Keith, Ken, or Chris you will be getting info from owners. I know as they are growing so fast they have asked successful users of the product to help them since one of them does all the program writing, one does all the testing on the strip as far as development, and I forget what the 3rd guy does. I think sales etc. which is very important!!!

Well all the wise old sage can come up with to say this morning not sure though. I still have some more threads to read yet. I will hang in on the forum as long as health allows. My 3 year GI bleeding problem stopped with exploretory surgery 10/2003 has the Neuro's concerned about heart damage because it had to work extra hard for over 3 years trying to pump blood that was not there. Now I'm having real low blood pressure and slow heart rate so I have know idea where it will head next. The Neuro's are going to put me in hospital for at least a week if not more as they plan to take all anti-convultants away, well all meds in hope that seizure etc. will show itself since the Docs feel they cannot find where the neuropathy is occuring with it being masked by the meds. It has to be under supervision since some can cause stroke and other bad things if you stop them abruptly.
The great thing though is I will be hooked to real long leads hooked to my skull and heart but, the really cool thing is I get to take my laptop, cell phone, and other things I want. PRIVATE room which is so cool.

Docs hope they find area damaged by oxygen deprivation I was constantly under due to bad blood levels without many breaks. So I will have a busy rest of Sept. and most of Oct. 07. It will be nice though that I get to have my laptop with me and I can still unintentionally irrate all the Buds on the forum.
Prayers and well wishs will be much appreciated as I'm just sick and tired of being sick fighting one thing that then caused another problem then caused another one. I'm ready to get on with life and charge goals that I have but, been delayed.

Thanks for being patient with me and allowing me to blow steam and hopefully share something that is helpful.

TAZ