Help plz

[RRS-Owns-All]

I am thinking of selling my beautiful 06 reg range rover sport, and was considering buying a hummer h2 or 3. Can you guys give me any reasons why i should opt for hummer, besides the size of the damn things :giggling:

[jmsspratlin]

I am thinking of selling my beautiful 06 reg range rover sport, and was considering buying a hummer h2 or 3. Can you guys give me any reasons why i should opt for hummer, besides the size of the damn things :giggling:



B/c its simply a better vehicle;)

[RRS-Owns-All]

I fail to see how though, the wife would love one, but i just can't see it beating the RRS for ride, comfort, refinement and the yearn factor. The interior of the hummers i have been in are far inferior to that of the sport.
Anyone else, no y i should buy one?

[mikejr]

I would suggest that you take an H2 and H3 for a test drive and see for yourself then make the decision on whether to stay with the rover or go with the Hummer.

They are two very different vehicles.

I've not done the research, but it appears from looking at the exterior of each vehicle that the Hummer was designed to be more capable off road than the rover ie, approach angles etc.

[dkhummerh2]

I had a 01 Range Rover years back. If you like a smaller suv than maybe the Hummer is not for you. I liked mine for the most part, but really enjoy the largers suv's. I had a Navigator as well and I liked it But the H2 by far trumps them all. I have a supercharged one with alot of extras. So maybe you need to look at customizing one to your liking. I for sure do not think that an h3 would satisfy you at all. That would be a pretty big downgrade. Go drive an H2 and them come back and ask some more questions.

[RRS-Owns-All]

kk, thanks for the advice, btw it was a H3 i was sat in, so i'll try and book a test drive for a H2 ASAP :dancingbanana:

[mikejr]

the H2 is very different from the H3. As one might expect with a $20K+ price tag difference.

Being 6'4" tall I dont find the H3 as comfortable as the H2. Again, its a very personal decision based upon your likes and dislikes.

The 08 H2 has signifigant improvements on the interior of the vehicle. I'd suggest that you look at a 2008 H2 and also the 07 H2's left on the lot to see which year you would like better if at all.

[H2wifey]

I fail to see how though, the wife would love one, but i just can't see it beating the RRS for ride, comfort, refinement and the yearn factor. The interior of the hummers i have been in are far inferior to that of the sport.
Anyone else, no y i should buy one?



You'd be suprised,take one for a test drive I love my husbands probably better than any vehicle he has ever owned :dancingbanana: ;) :dancingbanana:

[dkhummerh2]

Good point. Check out the 08 H2. The interior is more refined. Plus you get a full 3rd seat as an option. I imagine that the 08 H2 will impress! I like mine because it is different than almost everything else. I was tired of driving a Navigator because you would see them everywhere. Check it out and let us know what you think.
dk

[h2co-pilot]

The H2 is bigger, inside and out. It has better off roading dimensions (at a glance), however, the RRS fords 7inches deeper in water. All in all the two are very comparible.

http://www.hummer.com/#/AMERICAS/us/

http://www.landroverusa.com/us/en/Vehicles/RangeRover_Sport/Overview.htm


I dunno, I hate to say it, but I like the RRS.:o :D

But yeah, go test out the H2, it will be something you are more used to.

[mikejr]

Personally....I feel the Rover is more of an urban looking SUV where as the Hummer has a more rugged and tough look. Thats just an opinion of mine and also my wifes.

We checked out the rovers at the car show this year and ended up buying another H2 since we like them so much.

I agree...a hummer gets more looks than most other vehicles on the road....mine gets looks from kids to the elderly and all ages in between. As the hummer slogan says...."Like Nothing Else"

[dkhummerh2]

Different strokes for different folks. I guess with an H2 you either love it or you hate it. Take one for a drive and you should know the answer.
:perfect10s:

[mikejr]

Different strokes for different folks. I guess with an H2 you either love it or you hate it. Take one for a drive and you should know the answer.
:perfect10s:

My Dad busted my stones for getting my first H2....then he took it for a ride and in about a month he bought his 06 SUT. He said its by far the nicest vehicle he's owned.

Like you said...you either like'em or you don't. There is no in between.

[dkhummerh2]

My old man was the same way. He expected them to be rough riding etc. After the first time he road in it, he changed his mind dramatically. You do have an advantage. You know the range rover inside and out. So you can easily compare it to the H2 with a test drive.

[Tex_h2]

I fail to see how though, the wife would love one, but i just can't see it beating the RRS for ride, comfort, refinement and the yearn factor. The interior of the hummers i have been in are far inferior to that of the sport.
Anyone else, no y i should buy one?


Compare to the Range Rover you won't be happy. Not to piss on H2's but there is a major difference. Only buy a H2, if you are a big kid and want to have tons of fun. You like pissing off the tree-huggers and so on. And when it really comes down to it......you want to be different and unique. I also have a Lexus LX470 and the ride is far more comfortable. But, I love my H2, love the way it looks, sounds and the attitude.

[dkhummerh2]

I agree. The two really can't be compared because they are just that different. Either way you will be getting a fine auto that most would love to have.
best of luck

[tower]

Do you ever go or plan on going off road? If so, find a decent off road driver who owns an H2 and try to follow him through some difficult obstacles. This alone will convice you of which one you want. If you don't go off pavement, you can probably get either one and be happy.

[dkhummerh2]

I liked my Range, but I never did what I have done in my H2.

[mikejr]

Do you ever go or plan on going off road? If so, find a decent off road driver who owns an H2 and try to follow him through some difficult obstacles. This alone will convice you of which one you want. If you don't go off pavement, you can probably get either one and be happy.

I agree....

[RRS-Owns-All]

wow, thanks to you all for your advice, jus wondering if anyone on here had an RRS and changed it to the H2/3 or vice versa, would love to know what you think. :)

[Tex_h2]

wow, thanks to you all for your advice, jus wondering if anyone on here had an RRS and changed it to the H2/3 or vice versa, would love to know what you think. :)

One other thing, don't think about a H3, especially if your use to the RR/RRS. You will not be happy at all....just stick with the H2

[Boss Hoss]

The H2 is bigger, inside and out. It has better off roading dimensions (at a glance), however, the RRS fords 7inches deeper in water. All in all the two are very comparible.

http://www.hummer.com/#/AMERICAS/us/

http://www.landroverusa.com/us/en/Vehicles/RangeRover_Sport/Overview.htm


I dunno, I hate to say it, but I like the RRS.:o :D

But yeah, go test out the H2, it will be something you are more used to.

CP im so dissapointed in you!...The specs are not even close not to mention lockers, rock rails, 35in tires(vs 30in tires). A RRS following a H2 offroad = :owned:!!!

If you prefer a more "refined" vehicle then perhaps the RRS is a better choice. However i think you will find the ride and drive of the H2 to be quite pleasant.

[paulphilly]

I have owned many vehicles in my life to include a Lexus470. I have also test driven a RRS and have driven the H1 MANY times when I was a military man. Both the Lexus 470 and H1 were very capable off-road. I have not had a chance to take the RRS off-road (which I didnt think the dealership would like), but it just didn't give me the feeling that I was looking for! It's obviously a very nice vehicle that is a little more refined than my new 08' H2, but I prefer the more "testosterone" look/feel of the Hummer. That said, the RRS was a blast to drive.....but, again I felt that is was more of a grocery getter (which is ok for some people). And, doesn't the RR line of vehicles have a poor reliability rating? Anyway, I love my H2 and wouldnt trade it for the world!

[frenzy1]

Personally....I feel the Rover is more of an urban looking SUV where as the Hummer has a more rugged and tough look. Thats just an opinion of mine and also my wifes.

We checked out the rovers at the car show this year and ended up buying another H2 since we like them so much.

I agree...a hummer gets more looks than most other vehicles on the road....mine gets looks from kids to the elderly and all ages in between. As the hummer slogan says...."Like Nothing Else"


I totally agree. I drove a Range Rover about 7 years ago. Liked it alot, but the hummer is way better. It's a UNIQUE ride.

Frenzy
Belgium (looooooots of Range Rovers over here and no hummers :jump: )

[dkhummerh2]

Had a range and mine did have some issues with the drivetrain, but that was an 01 model, I am in no way bashing the range, they do make a nice truck. I think that the 2 are totally different. Just buy both, drive the range to work and use the h2 on the weekends.
dk

[obzidian]

personally, after seeing them up close in the auto show, i will agree say that the H2, IMO, is better suited for me.

The interior is more refined in the RR, that is for sure, however, your a potentially purchasing a vehicle for its off-road prowness and fun factor... you will not get that for that RR. It has features that sell the idea of fun off-road, but i just cannot see one of the newer RR keeping up with a stock h2. I agree its more of a grocery getter and to keep the wife happy with the comfort.

But, again, imo, if you are looking for fun, and a surprisingly comfortable, confident ride, get the H2. The h3, with all due respect, doesn't compare.

[dkhummerh2]

Buy the H2 and tell your wife to go buy something that she wants. Thus, you will both be satisfied.
dk

[DRTYFN]

I am thinking of selling my beautiful 06 reg range rover sport, and was considering buying a hummer h2 or 3. Can you guys give me any reasons why i should opt for hummer, besides the size of the damn things :giggling:
It'd be a step in the right direction to shedding the latte-sipping metrosexual image.

[DennisAJC]

I fail to see how though, the wife would love one, but i just can't see it beating the RRS for ride, comfort, refinement and the yearn factor. The interior of the hummers i have been in are far inferior to that of the sport.
Anyone else, no y i should buy one?

Wifey had an 03 Range Rover. It's a silky ride no doubt. But unless you're going to take it off road, I'd stick with thr Range Rover. The RR is definitely capable, but I couldn't see myself to risk scratching it.

[lennyrebel]

I am thinking of selling my beautiful 06 reg range rover sport, and was considering buying a hummer h2 or 3. Can you guys give me any reasons why i should opt for hummer, besides the size of the damn things :giggling:
I think if you got to ask your simply not Hummer Material and your really not wanted in the Hummer group--There is something missing and you probably have weird desires to hug trees and other stupid things.:jump:

[Alan06SUT]

Do you carry a man purse or have your a55 waxed? If so stick with the RRS. If you could care less what the neighbors will say and consider yoursel an individual independant thinker, get the Hummer (its obviosly what you want deep down, its whether you have the sak to actually get one and keep it).
:clapping:

I have to say, the RRS's are pretty darn capable, I've seen one in action and I couldnt belive what it could do on those "low Prof's". My friend just bought an LR3 and he will be taking it to tellico with us in two weeks. We shall see how it will do. He blow dries his hair just FYI.

[jmsspratlin]

He blow dries his hair just FYI.


:dancingbanana:

[Goalkeeper]

kk, thanks for the advice, btw it was a H3 i was sat in, so i'll try and book a test drive for a H2 ASAP :dancingbanana:

I like the RRS a bunch and am considering getting one in addition to my 03 H2.

You ned to take the H2 for a 24 test drive to really get a feel for it, not just the weak ass test you get while at the dealer.

-Matt

[Boss Hoss]

My friend just bought an LR3 and he will be taking it to tellico with us in two weeks. We shall see how it will do. He blow dries his hair just FYI.

Thats going to be interesting! If i dont make it youve gotta take some good pics.

[Alan06SUT]

For sure. If you can, try and meet us up there. Were leaving on that Friday evening. I am going to the land rover off roading happening with him on sunday so we will get to know his truck a little before Tellico. I'll report how that goes as well.

[Boss Hoss]

IM going to try to make it up there but we have adopted 6yr old twins and life has changed. From no kids to two 6 year olds really spins your life around. I might just come with my father again but well see.

[dkhummerh2]

i agree, if you have to think about buying an h2 then you probably shouldn't buy one. For me there was everything else and then there was the h2. I drove the others until I could afford to own an H2. Needless to say I am now in a better place. But where to go once you have reached the top? oh yeah the 08
dk:beerchug:

[Captain of the Titanic]

I think the last few people really put it into perspective.

You seem :lame: - Do us a favor and buy the Rover.

:rant: :rant: :rant:

[Takecover]

Depreciation on the RR is TERRIBLE! Right up there with Caddys and Lincolns. The only way I could see owning a new RR would be to lease, it is just unbelievable how bad the RR's depreciate. The H2's to me are not nearly as bad. Keep us posted, as both are really neat vehicles!

Jimmy

[dkhummerh2]

tell me about it, got 26k out of my 03 Lincoln Navigator Ultimate with only 33k miles. do the math on that one, cost me about $1 per mile in depreciation. Went and bought me a 03 h2 for 31k with only 40k miles. I will be a heck of alot better off this time.

dk

[RazM]

But, again, imo, if you are looking for fun, and a surprisingly comfortable, confident ride, get the H2. The h3, with all due respect, doesn't compare.

Oh it compares, and beats the H2 in many regards. Of course, it doesn't compare in the ego boost some of you get being 3 inches wider on each side... :fdance: I understand, some of you need that...

Better water fording, better turning radius, and with 35's, equal or better approach, departure, and breakover angles, and you're not carrying all that useless fat around.

[Captain of the Titanic]

Oh it compares, and beats the H2 in many regards. Of course, it doesn't compare in the ego boost some of you get being 3 inches wider on each side... :fdance: I understand, some of you need that...

Better water fording, better turning radius, and with 35's, equal or better approach, departure, and breakover angles, and you're not carrying all that useless fat around.

I've had both... The H3 is for, no offense intended, shorter smaller framed people. Off road, I actually think the H3 is at least as good (once you lose the Mall Terrain Tires). 3 tons+ (H2) seems to have it's downside at times. On the pavement, there's no comparison - The H2 is the way to go.

I think they are both worthy of being called Hummers!

[mikejr]

I've had both... The H3 is for, no offense intended, shorter smaller framed people. Off road, I actually think the H3 is at least as good (once you lose the Mall Terrain Tires). 3 tons+ (H2) seems to have it's downside at times. On the pavement, there's no comparison - The H2 is the way to go.

I think they are both worthy of being called Hummers!

I would agree with you. I've not ridden in the H3 but have sat in them and felt the H2 was a more comfortable vehicle for me being I am 6'4". No digs on the H3, always thought they were sharp trucks. I agree, both are worthy of wearing the HUMMER badge.

[RazM]

I've had both... The H3 is for, no offense intended, shorter smaller framed people. Off road, I actually think the H3 is at least as good (once you lose the Mall Terrain Tires). 3 tons+ (H2) seems to have it's downside at times. On the pavement, there's no comparison - The H2 is the way to go.

I think they are both worthy of being called Hummers!

No offense taken, considering I'm 6'5 250 pounds, and have never had issues with room or comfort in the H3. I've been in an H2, and I was surprised to find that the H3 has more leg stretch out room than the H2. The H2 definitely had more room in width obviously, but I was surprised that I had to bend my knees more in it than I do in the H3.

[Grizzy]

No offense taken, considering I'm 6'5 250 pounds, and have never had issues with room or comfort in the H3. I've been in an H2, and I was surprised to find that the H3 has more leg stretch out room than the H2. The H2 definitely had more room in width obviously, but I was surprised that I had to bend my knees more in it than I do in the H3.


Took home an H3 demo once, horrible interior compared to the H2 (yes the H3 was spanking new, only 5mi. when I drove it home, and boy what a loose miserable ride). Honestly felt like I was driving my sisters old Ford Explorer. It might just be the worst handling vehicle I've ever driven. Yes, it was that bad. Felt very unsecure at highway speeds, horrible breaking. Hell maybe there was something wrong with the one I drove other than the fact it wasn't an H2. As far as leg room, I'm only 6'1", 240lbs, hell yeah theres a difference in leg room! Perhaps you forgot to move your seat back in the H2 Razm. =P


Ego boost? Sorry, thats hardly the reason many of us H2 owners bought an H2. Honestly, I didn't lose any sleep the night I spent the extra 20k on the H2. I wasn't looking for the cheaper version H3 just to save money, or the extra fuel economy (not saying you did). I was going for the functionality 1st, the comfort 2nd, and of course the looks!! Sexy sexy BIATCH!!! Not to mention the H2 handles remarkably well, not just for what it is, but compared to anything I've ever driven. I personally wouldn't be caught dead in an H3. I offered my wife the opportunity to trade her 350Z in for an H3 because she wants a small SUV or pickup. Thought it would be cute her taking our child to soccer practice in. She said, "Not just NO, but HELL NO". She wants the H2. =)

Of course, if the H3 fits you, then it fits you. Personally, I hate the H3. Some day when the Iraq war is over, I'll be at the auction looking to buy a used military H1.

[mikejr]

No offense taken, considering I'm 6'5 250 pounds, and have never had issues with room or comfort in the H3. I've been in an H2, and I was surprised to find that the H3 has more leg stretch out room than the H2. The H2 definitely had more room in width obviously, but I was surprised that I had to bend my knees more in it than I do in the H3.

I'll have to check out the leg room thing tomorrow. My truck had a bad PCM from the factory and it goes in to get fixed tomorrow. They had a black H3 Alpha there that was pretty sharp oversized tired, was a nice looking rig. My mom took an H3 for a ride before she got her new exploder and didnt buy the H3 since it didnt have a v8 in it. Told her she should have waited! She likes my dad SUT.

[dkhummerh2]

The h2 outperforms the h3 substantially.
dk

[H2bill]

As too the RR vs the H2 question, I'd say try them both out doing what you intend to do with it, and then buy which ever one you like. That's pretty simple. Things you may want to consider in choosing is how close the Hummer or RR dealer is to your house and how is customer service after the sale.

I do have a take on the H3 vs the H2. I had my eyes on the H2 since the day they came out but didn't get serious about them until the H3 came out. I test drove the H3 first and then the H2. There really was no comparison in handling and comfort (I had a Suburban at the time, and the H2 was much more comfortable on the highway). I bought the H2.

Since then I've spent a few days driving the H3 around as a loaner while my H2 was in the shop :( . Other than a very tight turning radius (and being a Hummer) the H2 has it over the H3 in every regard as far as I'm concerned.

[RuggedH2]

This comparing of the H3 to the H2, on thread after thread is ridiculous.

I own and wheel both, and there are several others here who have owned both also. There are reasons the H2 costs $20,000 dollars more. To compare the two head to head is stupid, the advantage (especially in comfort) goes to the more expensive vehicle.

With that said, The H3 is a Hummer and wheels like a bad-ass. Some of the whining coming from some of the H2 owners probably stems from the fact that a good driver in a H3 can follow a good driver in an H2 almost everywhere, and sometimes (on tight trails and steep, loose terrain) the H3 will outperform the H2 due to weight, size and turning radius. When power comes in to play, the H2 again has the advantage.

As far as a RRS goes; Refinement is King for that vehicle. Macho it's not, metrosexual - definitely! People do stare at the Hummer, maybe it's cause my headlights are up so high they are shining in their eyes, or because they are afraid that the lifted Hummer might roll up their hood in an accident, (which it possibly could) or because they think they would like to drive one themselves, whatever. People don't notice Range Rovers, maybe the people you want to notice you - do.... other sophisticated metros and gays might, but I wouldn't know, and couldn't care less about them. I just want the idiots out there to realize.....that in traffic, Isaac Newton says - I win! He is right, and the Hummer states it well, all day long.

The H2 rides and performs well, but it's the statement it makes. My rules, my game, kiss my ass I don't care about your feelings or hang-ups. This rig is not for everybody. If you need to be convinced, go away....you aint got it.

[RazM]

Took home an H3 demo once, horrible interior compared to the H2 (yes the H3 was spanking new, only 5mi. when I drove it home, and boy what a loose miserable ride). Honestly felt like I was driving my sisters old Ford Explorer. It might just be the worst handling vehicle I've ever driven. Yes, it was that bad. Felt very unsecure at highway speeds, horrible breaking. Hell maybe there was something wrong with the one I drove other than the fact it wasn't an H2. As far as leg room, I'm only 6'1", 240lbs, hell yeah theres a difference in leg room! Perhaps you forgot to move your seat back in the H2 Razm. =P


Ego boost? Sorry, thats hardly the reason many of us H2 owners bought an H2. Honestly, I didn't lose any sleep the night I spent the extra 20k on the H2. I wasn't looking for the cheaper version H3 just to save money, or the extra fuel economy (not saying you did). I was going for the functionality 1st, the comfort 2nd, and of course the looks!! Sexy sexy BIATCH!!! Not to mention the H2 handles remarkably well, not just for what it is, but compared to anything I've ever driven. I personally wouldn't be caught dead in an H3. I offered my wife the opportunity to trade her 350Z in for an H3 because she wants a small SUV or pickup. Thought it would be cute her taking our child to soccer practice in. She said, "Not just NO, but HELL NO". She wants the H2. =)

Of course, if the H3 fits you, then it fits you. Personally, I hate the H3. Some day when the Iraq war is over, I'll be at the auction looking to buy a used military H1.

The moment you said horrible handling and braking, and it felt insecure, I stopped reading your trash:fdance:

What a bunch of crap, everybody who drives the H3 always says how it controls like a sports car, not 5000lbs+ truck, and the braking is the best I've ever experienced in an SUV. If you're gonna knock it, atleast make an ounce of sense.

BTW, the H3 runs 4 piston opposed calipers on the front, the H2 runs 2 piston calipers :) Yeah, braking really must've sucked in your 'test drive.' Getting your wife tampons doesn't count as test driving a truck.

[RazM]

I'll have to check out the leg room thing tomorrow.

Go for it, the measurements on Hummer.com even show that the H3 has more leg room. I know I'm not the first person on this site to mention it either. The way the pedals are placed in the H2, along with the closer firewall, the H3 has more stretch out leg room than the H2.

Not that it matters, considering you've got more area to spread your legs out to the sides. Just mentioning it since height was brought up as a BS arguement, especially considering the H3 has slightly better headroom numbers too...

[RRS-Owns-All]

Depreciation on the RR is TERRIBLE! Right up there with Caddys and Lincolns. The only way I could see owning a new RR would be to lease, it is just unbelievable how bad the RR's depreciate. The H2's to me are not nearly as bad. Keep us posted, as both are really neat vehicles!

Jimmy


here in britain, the dpereciation is amazing on RRs as they are so sought after, you can excpect to pay around ?33k for an 05 HSE model.

Took a h2 for a test drive the other day, decided against buying one now, am gna stick wiv da RRs. I was lookin more for refinement and image than hardcore offroading,( which the RRS is no slouch at to be fair), and i want to be able to drive around my home town without people thinkng i'm some kind of rapper


thanks for all your help any way
:clapping:

[RuggedH2]

I looked at RR's before I bought my H2. Never seriously considered one though. Effeminate little powder puff.

I wanted a vehicle to really play in, not to pose in, so I bought another Hummer.

RR owns all is afraid of being confused with a rapper, but obviously has no problem being associated with gays. You made the right call there RRSOA, we probably don't want you driving one either.

[Grizzy]

The moment you said horrible handling and braking, and it felt insecure, I stopped reading your trash:fdance:

What a bunch of crap, everybody who drives the H3 always says how it controls like a sports car, not 5000lbs+ truck, and the braking is the best I've ever experienced in an SUV. If you're gonna knock it, atleast make an ounce of sense.

BTW, the H3 runs 4 piston opposed calipers on the front, the H2 runs 2 piston calipers :) Yeah, braking really must've sucked in your 'test drive.' Getting your wife tampons doesn't count as test driving a truck.

LoL, You're very funny. I actually did go get my wife some tampons in the H3!

More trash!
As far as your smart a$$ remarks go, your knowledge of the calipers from the H3 to the H2 do not impress me. The fact that you would knock someone for having an opinion, thats another issue, and it's possible that you may need a psychiatric evaluation. Yes, the H3 I test drove at highway speeds felt incredibly loose, like your wife. There was huge instability in the vehicle handling compared to how my supercharged H2 feels at the same speeds. It was immediately noticable when I hit the highway leaving the dealership.

-Brakes sucked. No scientific proof needed, or even a tampon run! 'Period' (literally!). My F350 could stop quicker than the H3 any day, with less fading.

-Comparing an H3 to a sports car? Doesn't deserve a response.

-Wow! Do you get this pissed at everyone that might think your H3 is a POS? So insecure, maybe you should have bought the H2 for a morale boost!
:lame: :lame: :lame: :lame:

[Grizzy]

Go for it, the measurements on Hummer.com even show that the H3 has more leg room. I know I'm not the first person on this site to mention it either. The way the pedals are placed in the H2, along with the closer firewall, the H3 has more stretch out leg room than the H2.

Not that it matters, considering you've got more area to spread your legs out to the sides. Just mentioning it since height was brought up as a BS arguement, especially considering the H3 has slightly better headroom numbers too...


Everyone please don't disagree with this guy. Tired of hearing him bi*ch! Ok Razm, you're right! Nobody will ever argue with you again! Nobody can compete with your vast array of brochure knowledge! The H3 is SUPERIOR! I get it now! I've been so blind for so long I just never believed it! Then I opened my eyes and the H3 was just glowing like the brightest night star, until I realized I was just getting dizzy from your fat a$$ wife sitting on my face! Yummy!:jump:


Please nobody say anything negative about the H3. This f**king turd may have a fat a$$ induced embolism. I'm telling you, he's ready to pop! He can't take the pressure of another argument.

[pteam]

Having owned 7 hummers and 5 currently, I would say the 08 h2 rides just about as nice as a lexus SUV or RRS. Its leagues above my 03 h2, not sure how much of that had to do with the fact the 03 was 4 years old when I traded it in and drove the 08 the same day but seriously the 08 does not feel any bumps, its amazing.

[Alan06SUT]

Rasm and the other H3 guy....H3 does NOT outwheel an H2. I have wheeled both many times. Pics of both of you "wheeling" please.

H3 alpha with 35's would be a good match, but stock for stock, ground clearance, tires, locker gives H2 the edge in most instances. I have not come across an obstacle that an H3 could fit through and my h2 couldn't. However I have been on numerous slippery hill climbs where my H2 pulled H3's up. BFG AT vs Bridgestone Duallers there.

As for comfort you are smoking crack if you think an H3 is more comfortable than an H2.

:lame:

[RuggedH2]

Alan I don't know if you are referring to me as the other H3 guy or not, but here's a couple anyway.

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26013


http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27260

I'll have more after September 20. The turning radius on the H3 is far better than the H2, this coupled with it's smaller size makes a gigantic difference in the ease with which it negotiates mountain steep, tight, brush covered Jeep trails around my house. It weighs significantly less and my H3 has a rear locker and 35's also.

Read the whole post.

[Alan06SUT]

Alan I don't know if you are referring to me as the other H3 guy or not, but here's a couple anyway.

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26013


http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27260

I'll have more after September 20. The turning radius on the H3 is far better than the H2, this coupled with it's smaller size makes a gigantic difference in the ease with which it negotiates mountain steep, tight, brush covered Jeep trails around my house. It weighs significantly less and my H3 has a rear locker and 35's also.




Read the whole post.

Did read post. :p

At Tellico H2's and H3's are very comparable. But, H3's seemed to get high centered easier than H2's, but were surely more nimble in tight trails.

So did the H2's not make it anywhere the H3's did? And did any bone stock h3's go up the obstacles bone stock H2's did? Not the first time out at moab. I believe they broke front diffs. I am not saying one is better than the other, and there are no facts to back up the assertion that a stock h3 will out wheel a stock h2. Thats my point.

[RuggedH2]

Alan,

I have a mountain right behind my house. It has loose dry soil and rock, it is surrounded on all sides by thick scrub oak with thick branches that rip into paint. The trails wind up the face of the mountain and in places are very steep.

Not only is the H3 much more fun to take through these trails, it outperforms my H2 on the exact same trails. The H2 requires multiple point turns to negotiate the turns and still gets abused by the brush. Up the steeps the H2 digs holes in the loose soil and buries itself. The H3 works hard also, but gets up.

My friends Jeeps don't do any better.

Don't get the wrong idea, I like the H2 better. For most stuff I do believe it can slightly outperform the H3. But like I said this argument is stupid, the H2 costs a lot more. My H2 is lifted with 37 13.50's.

[Alan06SUT]

Alan,

I have a mountain right behind my house. It has loose dry soil and rock, it is surrounded on all sides by thick scrub oak with thick branches that rip into paint. The trails wind up the face of the mountain and in places are very steep.

Not only is the H3 much more fun to take through these trails, it outperforms my H2 on the exact same trails. The H2 requires multiple point turns to negotiate the turns and still gets abused by the brush. Up the steeps the H2 digs holes in the loose soil and buries itself. The H3 works hard also, but gets up.

My friends Jeeps don't do any better.

Don't get the wrong idea, I like the H2 better. For most stuff I do believe it can slightly outperform the H3. But like I said this argument is stupid, the H2 costs a lot more. My H2 is lifted with 37 13.50's.

So then we agree. :beerchug: Rasm? What is your basis that the h3 can outwheel an H2?

[Alan06SUT]

Oh it compares, and beats the H2 in many regards. Of course, it doesn't compare in the ego boost some of you get being 3 inches wider on each side... :fdance: I understand, some of you need that...

Better water fording, better turning radius, and with 35's, equal or better approach, departure, and breakover angles, and you're not carrying all that useless fat around.

I think this fording was just a bit over the advertised fording numbers for either the H2 or H3 probably around 35 inches. the only h3 that attempted it didnt make it down into the deep part before getting hung on his belly (the ruts were made by h1's on 37's. I did have the 37's on....
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/acablik/HummerExperience10-9-06034Medium.jpg
I then had to recover another H2 with 37" toyo MT's but I probably rutted it out pretty good.
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/acablik/HummerExperience10-9-06041Medium.jpg

[RazM]

LoL, You're very funny. I actually did go get my wife some tampons in the H3!

More trash!
As far as your smart a$$ remarks go, your knowledge of the calipers from the H3 to the H2 do not impress me. The fact that you would knock someone for having an opinion, thats another issue, and it's possible that you may need a psychiatric evaluation. Yes, the H3 I test drove at highway speeds felt incredibly loose, like your wife. There was huge instability in the vehicle handling compared to how my supercharged H2 feels at the same speeds. It was immediately noticable when I hit the highway leaving the dealership.

-Brakes sucked. No scientific proof needed, or even a tampon run! 'Period' (literally!). My F350 could stop quicker than the H3 any day, with less fading.

-Comparing an H3 to a sports car? Doesn't deserve a response.

-Wow! Do you get this pissed at everyone that might think your H3 is a POS? So insecure, maybe you should have bought the H2 for a morale boost!
:lame: :lame: :lame: :lame:

:giggling: :giggling: :giggling:

I don't knock anybody having an opinion, god knows enough people have said the H3 is not right for them, and for valid reasons. No problems there, however, your 'opinions' are laced with ridiculously exagerated knocks at the H3 just so you can say you didn't like it. Saying the brakes suck, ridiculous. You didn't drive it long enough or were you ever in a position where you had to stop on a DIME. I have been, frequently, especially out in the country where animals dart in front of you like hicks at a wal-mart. The H3 being too small for you? Fine, not enough power? Fine, saying the braking sucks? BULL. Some of the best braking of any truck I've driven. The many reviews back this up.

Yes, the H3 handles like a sports car, not like a 5000lbs+ truck. The turning radius and great steering make it a dream to drive. That's a fact, everyone who's driven it says that. Again, you knocking how it handles and compare it to an old Explorer, more troll trash just so you can say "I don't like it."

I'm defending the H3, in a thread where a lot of BS has been thrown around. Height and size issues were brought up, I gave the facts and shot it down. If you want someone to make a fair decision in what vehicle is right for them, don't throw around complete BS just to knock down a vehicle you don't like. Frankly, I could care less if YOU like it, but don't be surprised if I come and shoot down the BS you're throwing out.

[RazM]

Rasm and the other H3 guy....H3 does NOT outwheel an H2.

Show me where I said it outwheels? I said in many regards, it beats the H2, like water fording, better turning radius, and with 35's, it's got equal or better angles. Take into consideration that this was a response to a guy who said the H3 doesn't even come close to the H2.

As for comfort you are smoking crack if you think an H3 is more comfortable than an H2.

Again, never said it was more comfortable, just talked about legroom and headroom, and that it's not an issue for tall people to be comfortable in an H3.

I loved the seats in the H2, the H3 seats are comfy but the H2 seats are simply incredible (well, atleast on pre-08's, never sat in the 08)

[RazM]

I think this fording was just a bit over the advertised fording numbers for either the H2 or H3 probably around 35 inches. the only h3 that attempted it didnt make it down into the deep part before getting hung on his belly (the ruts were made by h1's on 37's. I did have the 37's on....
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/acablik/HummerExperience10-9-06034Medium.jpg
I then had to recover another H2 with 37" toyo MT's but I probably rutted it out pretty good.
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/acablik/HummerExperience10-9-06041Medium.jpg

That's another advantage the H2 has, it can fit 37's without a lift, just like an H3 can fit 35's without a lift.

Obviously, if you put 37's on an H2 it'll get better angles and clearance than a stock H2 or an H3 with 35's. Wish I had a mud pit near me like that (I'm in Canada, where the government classifies offroad trails as bicycle and jogging trails, and snowmobiles and quads are treated like the only form of offroading) Where was this taken?

[dkhummerh2]

I really don't want to get into the argument. But a guy I know has an H3 and cannot go on the mild trails that I do on near my home. The may be closer on paper than in a real test.
thanks
dk

[dkhummerh2]

although, the h3 would fair better on sand than the h2.
dk

[RazM]

I really don't want to get into the argument. But a guy I know has an H3 and cannot go on the mild trails that I do on near my home. The may be closer on paper than in a real test.
thanks
dk

Sounds like the "guy" is a complete dolt and wouldn't even be able to maneuver a buggy at a grocery store
:lame:

You're welcome

[dkhummerh2]

pretty much, after all he bought an H3 and can actually afford on H2.
dk

[RuggedH2]

Jeez........ Some British clown comes on here calling himself "Range Rover Sport owns all" and in his best sophistry, asks the question; if anyone of us can think why he should purchase a Hummer (H2 or H3), other than the size of one. Complete loaded crap from the beginning. This clown is a "dyed in the wool" British Range Rover fan.

What do we do? We begin the same old H2 versus H3 debate. We look like idiots, and should feel like we got worked, because we did. We got -:OWNED: by a British Rover dork.

Some H2 guys act like this is the same as a JK versus Liberty debate. It's not, and it's not even close. Yes the H2 may be slightly more capable in some terrain than the H3, but the differences in the models are not at all like the JK versus Liberty. All the Hummers are capable off road. The H3 has some advantages also.

Try this tight fit, (in the photo, there are only inches between the roof line and the rock, and there is no other way through) in an H2 and you're likely to sustain some significant body damage. Those of us that have wheeled both have seen different situations are advantageous to the individual strengths of different vehicles. Way to much web wheeling making us look stupid on this thread. (the bottom photo is of my rigs)

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[obzidian]

man...

The guy was concerned about the interior and how refined a h2 is. I stated that, a h3 does not compare to an h2 interior wise.

RaZm, your sure took it far. It is clearly evident that in certain situations, a specific vehicle type will outperform another if the latter isn't adept to that situation. Take a amphibious car, not a whole lot of cars can follow on of those in a lake, right? :)

I know that there are times a person wheelin' a h3 might wish they were in a h2 and vice versa, its the name of the game. Different strokes for different folks.... however, when i went to the dealer and sat in both, IMO, first imperssion.... the H3 Doesn't compare to a H2, PERIOD. You said it, and it should... cause it sure cost alot more... but you cannot say or insinuate that its inferior, which you insinuated, to a h3 in certain trail situations.

I think a h3 is a great truck and wheel's great, but, come on, my only ego-boost is when i would be pulling you out of a rutted mudhole time after time again!!!!! :) :) :)

03h3: respect your thoughts and i agree with ya'll 100%, but Razm got stupid and turned the thread sideways, quick! OF course, i dont help, but it's way more fun this way! :)

[Alan06SUT]

That's another advantage the H2 has, it can fit 37's without a lift, just like an H3 can fit 35's without a lift.

Obviously, if you put 37's on an H2 it'll get better angles and clearance than a stock H2 or an H3 with 35's. Wish I had a mud pit near me like that (I'm in Canada, where the government classifies offroad trails as bicycle and jogging trails, and snowmobiles and quads are treated like the only form of offroading) Where was this taken?

That is Georgia Red Clay! Its at the Hummer course about 45min from Atlanta.

[RuggedH2]

I went to my youngest sons football scrimmage against our cross town rivals today. When this little Range Rover Sport showed up and parked next to me in the parking lot. This little metro-sexual dude gets out wearing gay looking shorts (and carefully holding his Starbucks) and heads over to play tennis. I thought about this thread, and started laughing. :D

He looked at me because he thought I was laughing at him (and I was) but he then quickly looked away, and then down at himself to see if he could see something wrong. :giggling:

I took a picture of a couple of American 4X4's with the British Rover all parked in the parking lot next to each other. Look at what a bad-ass statement that Rover makes! :giggling: Tennis player at the football field.

Now don't get me wrong, some Rovers are cool trucks, I do like the Defenders, but since this thread started with "Range Rover Sport Owns All" looking down his nose at Hummers, I thought a little "perspective" was in order.

RRSOA can kiss my Hummer driving ass! ;)

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[h2co-pilot]

Gosh Darnit, I love that truck 03.:cool:

Pretty funny.:giggling: It looks so dainty, even next to the Jeep.

[md_sailor]

Jeez........ Some British clown comes on here calling himself "Range Rover Sport owns all" and in his best sophistry, asks the question; if anyone of us can think why he should purchase a Hummer (H2 or H3), other than the size of one. Complete loaded crap from the beginning. This clown is a "dyed in the wool" British Range Rover fan.

What do we do? We begin the same old H2 versus H3 debate. We look like idiots, and should feel like we got worked, because we did. We got -:OWNED: by a British Rover dork.

Some H2 guys act like this is the same as a JK versus Liberty debate. It's not, and it's not even close. Yes the H2 may be slightly more capable in some terrain than the H3, but the differences in the models are not at all like the JK versus Liberty. All the Hummers are capable off road. The H3 has some advantages also.

Try this tight fit, (in the photo, there are only inches between the roof line and the rock, and there is no other way through) in an H2 and you're likely to sustain some significant body damage. Those of us that have wheeled both have seen different situations are advantageous to the individual strengths of different vehicles. Way to much web wheeling making us look stupid on this thread. (the bottom photo is of my rigs)

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Bravo! Well Said.....:iagree:

[timgco]

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Try this tight fit, (in the photo, there are only inches between the roof line and the rock, and there is no other way through) in an H2 and you're likely to sustain some significant body damage. Those of us that have wheeled both have seen different situations are advantageous to the individual strengths of different vehicles. Way to much web wheeling making us look stupid on this thread. (the bottom photo is of my rigs)

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In case you are interested, you're truck has been on that exact same spot without touching. :giggling: (before the lift, but with rack and 37 12.50's. That's the first part of the squeeze on Hells. At least it sure looks like it. :D

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

RRSOA can kiss my Hummer driving ass! ;)

LOL
You pwnd that dweeby RRS and wannabe Wrangler. :beerchug:

[RuggedH2]

In case you are interested, you're truck has been on that exact same spot without touching. :giggling: (before the lift, but with rack and 37 12.50's. That's the first part of the squeeze on Hells. At least it sure looks like it. :D

Yep. I didn't say it was impossible, just likely to sustain damage, and I understand others did. Stories anyone? :D

[tower]

Damn that Tim is strong, holding up a 3 all by hiself!http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43539&d=1190062909

[CollegeSucks]

they dont weigh too awful much

[DennisAJC]

Oh it compares, and beats the H2 in many regards. Of course, it doesn't compare in the ego boost some of you get being 3 inches wider on each side... I understand, some of you need that...

the H2 runs 2 piston calipers :) Yeah, braking really must've sucked in your 'test drive.' Getting your wife tampons doesn't count as test driving a truck.




Everyone please don't disagree with RazM. Tired of hearing him bi*ch! Ok RazM, you're right! Nobody will ever argue with you again! Nobody can compete with your vast array of brochure knowledge! The H3 is SUPERIOR! I get it now! I've been so blind for so long I just never believed it! Then I opened my eyes and the H3 was just glowing like the brightest night star, until I realized I was just getting dizzy from your fat a$$ wife sitting on my face! Yummy!:jump:


Please nobody say anything negative about the H3. This f**king turd may have a fat a$$ induced embolism. I'm telling you, he's ready to pop! He can't take the pressure of another argument.



That's RazM for you. He'll never accept the H3 to be anything less than #1. If he can't convince you, he'll start throwing out the classy insults and start crying like a virgin that fell on a crayon and busted her hymen.

And if you get him angry enough, he'll send me an e-mail complaining how people should shut up with their opinions and listen to his. And whine about how the Canadian dollar is killing jobs and creating mass lay offs in his province and he might not be able to afford the lease on his H3 car because of it.

What he doesn't get is if the H3 was all he claims it is, us being smarter than him, wouldn't have any difficulty downgrading to the H3. But since that is not the case, (But don't tell him that!) most H2 owners won't be.

So do we have things straightened out now? It's OK to insult the H2. It is not OK to say the H2 is better than the H3 (Even though this is an obvious truth.) or I'll be getting more e-mail stating how polite he is to everyone and all he gets in return is rudness from the H2 crowd.:OWNED:

[tower]

Dennis that's too G.D. funny! Thanks!