Towed H2 by RV causes accident

[prplprowlr]

I thought i would post this and i was wondering if it might be a member here. Either way we are praying for both families involved. An rv was towing a H2 and somehow came free and swerved into oncoming traffic killing a driver of the truck it hit. Here is the link http://www.wpde.com/news/viewarticle.asp?view=6846

[obzidian]

WOW!!

Though, i have never owned an RV, let alone tow with one; but, i still don't get why do most people trailer with reciever type instead of getting a full open trailer and get the car/truck off the four wheels.

Anyways, my prayers to those that were affected...

[mikejr]

our thoughts and prayers are out to those involved....

[Grizzy]

WOW!!

Though, i have never owned an RV, let alone tow with one; but, i still don't get why do most people trailer with reciever type instead of getting a full open trailer and get the car/truck off the four wheels.

Anyways, my prayers to those that were affected...


Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Think I paid a little under 2k for my car/toy trailer. Axles underneath are 3.5k each, exceeding the capacity for what the trailer is rated for, atleast while hauling an H2. Of course, my H2 is what is doing the pulling, never being hauled. I'll bet the guy either broke the 2" ball which is unlikely but possible, considering they're not rated for loads over 6k, or had a tow bar that wasn't rated high enough for the H2. I've personally welded upgraded bull-dog trailer hitches and bigger safety chains on all 4 of my trailers. Use bigger and heavier duty ratchet straps for loads. When ya think you have your load all strapped and secured, add atleast 2 more straps. I take trailering/towing very seriously. Sad that all this happened to these families, but certainly could have been prevented.

[dkhummerh2]

yeah i hear you. I have towed alot in my life. It is important to take your time and do things the right way.
dk

[Big Z]

Well, Guess I'll pipe in again! :D

Flat towing is the BEST way! My 2 was the FIRST towed (prototype) for the roadMaster set up! I haven't read the link yet but I can Guarantee it was the RV/towed H2's fault!! :eek:

They most likely Didn't have a Brakeaway Installed OR A BRAKING SYSTEM!

Their's a LOT of ****Heads out there that that don't have the proper set-ups!

[Big Z]

Gotta Have It! :mad:

I've been rollin for five years now!---Just left RoadMaster with a with a clean Bill oh Health!

If for some Stupid reason the Drag Chains Broke, the lock pin wasn't install or Broke! A pin is pulled and the Brakes in The 2's lock up!

This Guy's FKED!---And shouldn't be, or have been on the Road!!:rant: :rant: :mad:

Another thing, if the drags were installed!, and properly The H2 would have went the other direction!!

[Grizzy]

Well, Guess I'll pipe in again! :D

Flat towing is the BEST way! My 2 was the FIRST towed (prototype) for the roadMaster set up! I haven't read the link yet but I can Guarantee it was the RV/towed H2's fault!! :eek:

They most likely Didn't have a Brakeaway Installed OR A BRAKING SYSTEM!

Their's a LOT of ****Heads out there that that don't have the proper set-ups!


Nice setup. Think I'd still prefer a car hauler personally. Less money to replace tires & bearings on a car hauler than it would be the H2. Not to mention the extra wear/tear on the drivetrain of the H2; transfer case, front/rear diffs, etc.. Of course you'd get less fuel mileage out of the RV pulling the H2 on a trailer, but does it matter? You're only getting maybe 5-6mpg out of the RV to begin with?.?. AND, if the roadmaster did happen to fail, you still wind up with a 60k vehicle in a ditch, probably rolled over, and perhaps still cause one hell of a wreck behind you with other innocent folks. Not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand how a tow bar system of any brand would be safer than a trailer. Again, nice setup though.

[mikejr]

Gotta Have It! :mad:

I've been rollin for five years now!---Just left RoadMaster with a with a clean Bill oh Health!

If for some Stupid reason the Drag Chains Broke, the lock pin wasn't install or Broke! A pin is pulled and the Brakes in The 2's lock up!

This Guy's FKED!---And shouldn't be, or have been on the Road!!:rant: :rant: :mad:

Another thing, if the drags were installed!, and properly The H2 would have went the other direction!!

Big Z....where you from? There is a guy local to me here north of pittsburgh that tows a maroon H2 behind his RV.....your set up looks similar to the one I saw

[Big Z]

Big Z....where you from? There is a guy local to me here north of pittsburgh that tows a maroon H2 behind his RV.....your set up looks similar to the one I saw

Or, Wa, Ca, Az, Nv, Ut.......For the most Part! :D

[DRTYFN]

Well, Guess I'll pipe in again! :D


After seeing this topic I was hoping you'd post up. I knew you'd have the best set up.

[DennisAJC]

Well, Guess I'll pipe in again! :D

Flat towing is the BEST way! My 2 was the FIRST towed (prototype) for the roadMaster set up! I haven't read the link yet but I can Guarantee it was the RV/towed H2's fault!! :eek:

They most likely Didn't have a Brakeaway Installed OR A BRAKING SYSTEM!

Their's a LOT of ****Heads out there that that don't have the proper set-ups!

That's the first thing I thought. Why didn't it have a brakeaway like yours. Sounds like the guy didn't properly invest in a tow set up.

[Big Z]

Nice setup. Think I'd still prefer a car hauler personally. Less money to replace tires & bearings on a car hauler than it would be the H2. Not to mention the extra wear/tear on the drivetrain of the H2; transfer case, front/rear diffs, etc.. Of course you'd get less fuel mileage out of the RV pulling the H2 on a trailer, but does it matter? You're only getting maybe 5-6mpg out of the RV to begin with?.?. AND, if the roadmaster did happen to fail, you still wind up with a 60k vehicle in a ditch, probably rolled over, and perhaps still cause one hell of a wreck behind you with other innocent folks. Not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand how a tow bar system of any brand would be safer than a trailer. Again, nice setup though.

Thanks!

Where do I start! :yawn:

Less money to replace tires & bearings on a car hauler than it would be the H2.

Does NOT Apply!...Haven't replaced them yet! Over 65K plus Towed Miles!

Think I'd still prefer a car hauler personally.

Impossible with Most RV's!--ONLY!...ONLY!!-- Diesel Pushers with A 15K Hitch Have a Shot @ the car Hauler thing, And Gross Combined Rating!

Not to mention the extra wear/tear on the drivetrain of the H2; transfer case, front/rear diffs, etc..

It's in Neutral (T/Case)...Just Rolling Along! :)

You're only getting maybe 5-6mpg out of the RV to begin with?.?.

Actually Closer to 10---If I keep My friggin foot off the fuel! and roll 60/65! :D Again Diesel Pusher!

AND, if the roadmaster did happen to fail, you still wind up with a 60k vehicle in a ditch, probably rolled over, and perhaps still cause one hell of a wreck

Not with out a 1/4 Mil plus coach laying beside it!! :D

1.) towbar has a 10K rating
2.) Brake Master--Air Proportional Braking System--
3.) Brakaway Installed!
4.) Drag Cables installed correctly
5.) I DON'T Play RoadMaster Happens to Fail!---My Chit Works!--I do what it takes to make er SAFE!! :shhh:

just trying to understand how a tow bar system of any brand would be safer than a trailer.

Pro's----NONE!

Cons
1.) to much weight--Example, Car hauler rated @ 7K--Trailer Wt.=2400Lb, your payload would be 4600Lbs--H2 dry=6400
2.) Would be burning up a LOT of Brake pads or worst!
3.) Parking/ stroage
4.) MUST have a Big Rig to use,--A 15K hitch and enough GCWR to handle
5.) Would look like Chit!:D

[johndjmix1]

I do more and bigger towing with my RV than anyone I know. Like you guys said, first thing is you MUST have a breakaway device. Here in NY its required!

My new trailer (Should be finished in a few weeks) weighs 8,500lbs empty and 18,500lbs fully loaded to the max. I have spent hours of work and thousands of dollars on a camera system, breakway system, rewiring the RV with 10 Gauge brake wire, and im even fabricating a system with a buzzer that warns me if the brake controler loses power.

Got to be safe, especiallly when pulling somthing over 3,000lbs.

--John

[Big Z]

That's the first thing I thought. Why didn't it have a brakeaway like yours. Sounds like the guy didn't properly invest in a tow set up.

Ding! Ding!! :)

[obzidian]

one thing, I'm not understanding your numbers...

"to much weight--Example, Car hauler rated @ 7K--Trailer Wt.=2400Lb, your payload would be 4600Lbs--H2 dry=6400"

First, when you say car hauler, is that the actually R/V or a car hauler like a trailer? If the latter, what kind of open or even a enclosed trailer, weighs 7k?

And lastly, the payload, is that the weight in the r/v, total, or again, on the trailer with the h2?

Anyways, your setup does look pretty impressive.... i've never towed with a r/v like that so this is a learning experience...

[Big Z]

one thing, I'm not understanding your numbers...

"to much weight--Example, Car hauler rated @ 7K--Trailer Wt.=2400Lb, your payload would be 4600Lbs--H2 dry=6400"

First, when you say car hauler, is that the actually R/V or a car hauler like a trailer? If the latter, what kind of open or even a enclosed trailer, weighs 7k?

And lastly, the payload, is that the weight in the r/v, total, or again, on the trailer with the h2?

Anyways, your setup does look pretty impressive.... i've never towed with a r/v like that so this is a learning experience...

In the Example I used, The car Hauler is rated @ 7,000 pounds, if the Hauler/trailer weighs 2400 pounds empty, what you can put on it (car/payload) must Not exceed 4600 Pounds!----- 4600 + 2400=7000

Nothing to do with the RV! :)

[Grizzy]

The guy in the RV should go to P R I S O N for 20yrs, 5yrs for INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER, and 15yrs for BEING AN IDIOT!

:twak:

[Big Z]

Here's another Example for ya! ;)

My hauler is rated for 10K, (9,950) Curd Weight = 4,732 Paylosd can be 5,218 Pounds

Tongue Weight is Maxed @ 1000 Pounds On most rigs---475 is speced! on this set up

[Grizzy]

Here's another Example for ya! ;)

My hauler is rated for 10K, (9,950) Curd Weight = 4,732 Paylosd can be 5,218 Pounds

Tongue Weight is Maxed @ 1000 Pounds On most rigs---475 is speced! on this set up


NICE SETUP!!!! I LIKE I LIKE I LIKE!!!

:excited:

[Big Z]

I was using my car hauling trailer as an example. I know it's not sufficient 'by law' to haul a H2. Perhaps 5.2k or even 6k trailer axles would be more than sufficient. Anyways, I have to vent some more on the tow bar system. What kind of idiot would put a $60k H2 behind a fu**ing tow bar???? I don't care how fancy your tow bar/remote brake trigger setup is, anything goes wrong, you're H2 goes in the ditch AND/OR somebody STILL gets killed! I've personally never seen anybody do this. Usually its the jeep being pulled behind the RV, or the occasional station wagon, but never a 6k lb H2! Hell the H2 should be on a car trailer lined with silver and gold with a custom cover! I'm thinking a custom BAT trailer out of Fort Worth with 6k lb axles, with a 2 5/8 12k bulldog hitch. That would get'er done!

The guy in the RV should go to P R I S O N for 20yrs, 5yrs for INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER, and 15yrs for BEING AN IDIOT!

:twak:


Set Back and LEARN something Youngster! Or STFU!! :twak: :twak: Try to Comprehend what's been typed, do a little research on your own if you CAN'T get it!

What kind of idiot would put a $60k H2 behind a fu**ing tow bar???? People that Know a Chitload more than You!! :giggling:
Like I said Earlier!..... I'm the FIRST FKN IDIOT TO DO IT! :twak:...and have been since 02! :popcorn: ;)

[obzidian]

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m50/obzidian/06%20BLK%20H2/Picture001.jpg

Gotcha!!! :)

This is my featherlite. I love this tailer. The side 5 foot door with the rear door make it a great trailer for load atv's, snow mobiles, my camaro and gear if i need to go to a track.. etc. Not to mention the v front, it helps out great when hauling it.

ITs gross weight is about 9,600. The trailer weighs about 3500 so i can stuff alot of toys in there!

[Big Z]

NICE SETUP!!!! I LIKE I LIKE I LIKE!!!

:excited:

Thanks! I pull it behind the Camper Also!

Another Big Z Custom in the works! :giggling: :D

[Grizzy]

:lame:

[Big Z]

Big Z,

Simple question from the 'youngster that apparently doesn't know CHIT',,,

Other than being cheap, and you being lazy, name ONE advantage to a tow bar over using a good car hauler to haul an H2 behind an RV?

Maybe an old stupid fu**er like yourself should help educate stupid 'chits' like me instead of making dumba$$ comments like::

"Set Back and LEARN something Youngster! Or STFU!! Try to Comprehend what's been typed, do a little research on your own if you CAN'T get it!

People that Know a Chitload more than You!!
"



Instead of making senseless remarks to cover you being the biggest a-hole in the forums, try reading this topic yourself, again, and try answering a few questions. Other than being cheap and lazy, I dare you to come up with one good reason to use a tow bar over a car hauler to pull an H2 behind an RV.

:lame:

LOL That's some funny $hit there!! :giggling:

Other than being cheap and lazy, I dare you to come up with one good reason to use a tow bar over a car hauler to pull an H2 behind an RV.

There is NOTHING Cheap about a Properly set up Towing System!!

1.GOOD REASON) IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO TOW AN H2 BEHIND AN RV-- ONE THAT IS CAPABLE!, THAT IS!!


Reasons NOT to use a Car Hauler!

1.) IT'S ILLEGAL!
2.) IT'S UNSAFE!
3.) YOU WOULD NEED A COMMERCIAL PLATE AND A TRANSPORT HAULER TO CARRY A 2!
4.) CAN'T BE USE BEHIND 99.9% OF RV'S! (length & weight limits)


Maybe an old stupid fu**er like yourself should help educate stupid 'chits' like me instead of making dumba$$ comments like::


Been trying to do that through the WHOLE THREAD!!

You seem to be one that!...Just can't get it! :violin: Sry your Butt Hurt! lol:giggling:

Let's make it a little easier for you!

1.) Show the specs on your car hauler, or one you Think you can use.

2.) the tow Rig you will be pulling it with?

Then we type! ;)

[Big Z]

Safe Crusin!

[Grizzy]

:giggling: pathetic:giggling:

[Grizzy]

:giggling: pathetic:giggling:

cya prick

[Fastest H-Town Realtor]

Even though I have NO experience towing an H2 behind anything, I can see why the trailer option isn't viable thru Big Zs post. Understanding that he tows regularly, I imagine he would know what the laws and conditions are to tow this rig. Reread his post. AND, anytime you wish to contribute your personal towing experience Grizzy, feel free. So far I se nothing contributed, and nothing learned from your posts. :confused: And, by your own admission, your trailer system is over loaded with the 2-3500lb axles you sport, admit you don't trailer the H2, then go on to quote out " the law" for trailer specs as if it were not applicable to you. What is the total trailer weight with the H2 that rides on your 7K setup? Adding heavier duty axles to a light duty trailer is asking for disaster. Remember you saying that you would do that? Perhaps if you stopped taking an education as a personal attack, you would learn something.

And, FWIW, your last post makes me believe therapy may be a needed add to your weekly routine. Inferiority complex for one please!

[Grizzy]

:fdance: :lame: :lame::lame: :fdance:

[Big Z]

Great, Another Jesse Luving Hate Monger Troll that thinks they know something and Entitled to everything UNEARNED!

Just keep Flippin Them Bugers and The Dream of owning a Hummer Alive! :OWNED: :violin:


It's pretty obvious your just an AE FkTard, leaf lickin, Dip$hit, incapable of Comprehension!! :fdance:

Grizzy, You have Nothing to Offer here!...Go find a "lucky Your Momma Didn't Swallow!" forum, and feel fortunate! :jump:

[Grizzy]

Great, Another Jesse Luving Hate Monger Troll that thinks they know something and Entitled to everything UNEARNED!

Just keep Flippin Them Bugers and The Dream of owning a Hummer Alive!


It's pretty obvious your just an AE FkTard, leaf lickin, Dip$hit, incapable of Comprehension!!




LoL Old comebacks from an old fat fart like yourself! Didn't really expect much, didn't get much! Damn I was just being sarcastic, didn't know that you 'really' didn't have a clue! Wow, I pegged that one! :fdance:


Flippin them burgers must be doing me good!

Heres my Hummer ya lame a$$ fag, and boy am I alive!!

http://www.atvparkvideo.com/hummer/hummer.wmv

:fdance:
http://www.atvparkvideo.com/h2customenclosure/amprack1.jpg
:fdance:
http://www.atvparkvideo.com/h2customenclosure/amprack2.jpg
:fdance:

:giggling: you're pathetic :giggling:

[Grizzy]

Great, Another Jesse Luving Hate Monger Troll that thinks they know something and Entitled to everything UNEARNED!




I'll admit one thing, I have no clue what a 'Jesse luving hate monger troll' is! Can you please enlighten me? Or will asking another question get my a$$ jumped again for no reason!?!?!?

Oh, and leave the momma's out of this. Wives are fair game though! :fdance:

[DennisAJC]

I'll admit one thing, I have no clue what a 'Jesse luving hate monger troll' is! Can you please enlighten me? Or will asking another question get my a$$ jumped again for no reason!?!?!?

Oh, and leave the momma's out of this. Wives are fair game though! :fdance:

Easy with BigZ there fella.

BigZ is the Guru when it comes to towin the H2. And he's also a protected species on this Forum.;)

[Grizzy]

Easy with BigZ there fella.

BigZ is the Guru when it comes to towin the H2. And he's also a protected species on this Forum.;)



Well ok then, sorry daddyO :crying:

Actually have much more respect for you. I've read many of your posts on numerous threads. Much more respect. :cool:

[DennisAJC]

Well ok then, sorry daddyO :crying:

Actually have much more respect for you. I've read many of your posts on numerous threads. Much more respect. :cool:

HAHAHA!!! Now I know you're full of s**t.:clapping::beerchug:

Looks like alot of TLC in your H2 setup. Looks good.

[ROX]

:jump: :jump: :jump:

:popcorn: :popcorn:

GET 'EM Z!

Seriously guys, his posts are strange;) , but he knows what the heck he's talking about. The guy that lost his H2 and killed those people couldn't have had it setup properly. BigZ's whole point is that, done properly, it is the best and safest way to tow something as large and heavy as an H2. I have towed many miles with my H2, but I've never towed it behind anything else.

Go get a small track hoe and pull it on a trailer behind your Motorhome. Then you'll know what to expect putting an H2 on a trailer, as opposed to having it on the ground behind the towing vehicle. Less drag, and better mileage on the tow rig.

The big problem most people face is their own ignorance when towing something behind their vehicle. Do your research, and spend the extra money to do it safely. If you're gonna cheap out and just make something up, you probably deserve to be in jail for man slaughter.

Just my .02.:D

[Grizzy]

HAHAHA!!! Now I know you're full of s**t.:clapping::beerchug:

Looks like alot of TLC in your H2 setup. Looks good.


Wheres the 'kissing-a$$' emoticon at? :dancingbanana:

[ROX]

Oh, and leave the momma's out of this. Wives are fair game though! :fdance::twak: Wives most certainly are NOT fair game. Show some respect!;) :D :twak:

[Grizzy]

:twak: Wives most certainly are NOT fair game. Show some respect!;) :D :twak:


LOL
Ok, so everyone here loves there wife so dearly they'd never say a foul word about her (or 'him' for some of you :giggling: ) . Lets have a moment of silence and think about our wives.


:shhh:
:shhh:
:shhh:
:shhh:

Ok, now I'm horny, be back later.

[tower]

Here's a question from someone :lame: who has towed very little and knows almost nothing about the topic. Aren't those 2 safety chains supposed to keep stuff like this accident from happening?

[dkhummerh2]

Yeah if they are hooked up right, the clasp facing the right way, if not one the chains hit the road, they can unhook. Trust me I have seen it happen. Also you could surely tell that something was f*cked up.
dk

[Big Z]

I'll admit one thing, I have no clue what a 'Jesse luving hate monger troll' is! Can you please enlighten me? Or will asking another question get my a$$ jumped again for no reason!?!?!?

Since You, CAN'T AFFORD A CLUE!!..No need for me to give you one!!

Oh, and leave the momma's out of this. Wives are fair game though! :fdance:

Let's get one thing str8!...Your A$$ was Never jumped! ..YOUR POST #18 started this whole thing!

By Needing to VENT your Personal Opionion, Serious Lack of Knowledge! (post #8), Name Calling, and Immature Attitude!.(post #18 and after)...You've Painted Yourself Much better than I ever could!!...

And as your Mentor would say! Stupid is as Stupid Does!!

[Grizzy]

Retracted comment! I'm done here!

:lame: :lame: :lame:

[Grizzy]

I swear people around here suck at answering questions.


WHAT THE HELL IS A 'Jesse luving hate monger troll' ????

:confused: :confused:

[obzidian]

Big Z, you arrogant rich fu**, why don't ya take some of that money you have and go buy a clue, and while you're at it, get rid of that ugly a$$ factory grill guard. Hell put some racks or lights on top of that H2, make it something worth driving. Oh, and when you have time, you can take off your crown, put the digital camera down (because frankly I don't understand someone who takes pictures of all their toys in the same damn picture unless they're trying to impress somebody, which I'm not impressed) , get off your fat lazy a$$ and mow your yard, looks like it needs it. As far as the crap in the picture, sell it all, and go buy something else to pump up your ego some more, as if it wasn't obvious, you're about to burst with self glorification. No wonder so many people hate H2 owners. Mostly arrogant pricks like you to give the rest of us a bad name. I've only had mine for 3 months and already I regret it. Might run into someone else who thinks I'm a prick like you, with a narcissistic personality disorder...........

:giggling: pathetic:giggling:

cya prick

Was this directed at me? Cuz the black trailer with toys infront is all my stuff.

Lets just hope you learn your lesson and keep your hating ass mouth shut.

[Grizzy]

:lame: :lame: :lame:

[obzidian]

listen cinderella, you take for what it is... however, your gonna have to try harder to get under my skin. I really don't care for what you got to say, however, it seemed that you were adressing me with those flacid coments.

You said that you already regret having an h2, well, maybe your are just echoing your true self with the accusations you state here? IF so, which i know to be a true and your gonna do your best to dismiss it and discredit me, which again, your gonna have a hard time doing; why dont you just sell your h2 and get into something that signifiies your true self...

[Grizzy]

You said that you already regret having an h2, well, maybe your are just echoing your true self with the accusations you state here? IF so, which i know to be a true and your gonna do your best to dismiss it and discredit me, which again, your gonna have a hard time doing; why dont you just sell your h2 and get into something that signifiies your true self...


Not gonna try and get under your skin. I truly made a mistake when I wrote that, I got caught up in anger towards Z and somehow managed to think that the photo was sent by him. To be completely honest, I have my own set of toys. Can't fit them all in one picture though. Yes I'm a hypocrite. :)


A little about me and the H2:
I've always liked the H2's. So I went out and bought an 07' SUT this past June. Since then, I have gotten used to being flipped off, cut off, yelled at, drinks thrown at, and vandalized, and for what?.?. I've gotten use to that crap because around here, its not the tree huggers, its just the jealousy.

I've worked my way back from the bottom, being married, one kid, broke as hell, very little college education, borderline bankruptcy, and still managed to start a new oil/gas service company from scratch only 3.5yrs ago with a penny sized budget. I feel its a blessing that I'm able to afford a vehicle like the H2, I often wonder that if the breaking point of my desire to own such a vehicle is not the jealousy, or the tree huggers, but the hatred from those that think I'm a rich and arrogant prick just because I drive an H2. This is not an image I want nor have ever had or am use to. I'm the go lucky, help anyone out of a situation, type of guy. I'm a huge Ford fan, and with my old F250 4x4, I've pulled dozens out of ditches, have been stuck many of times, and have pushed my toys to their limits. I have no problem having fun. I figured an H2 would be just that much more fun!

I'm the kind of guy that won't shoot someone down for having an opinion, but yet I'm quick to defend myself if you bring it first. I'm straight forward, pretty honest, and know how to admit when I'm wrong. But what I hate the most, is the real arrogant yuppy, better than everyone type attitude that I see some guys carry here. They're quick to shoot you down because you have an opinion.

I've seriously considered selling the H2 in the past 4 months since I've bought it. Although, I've already dumped over 11k cash into the supercharger and audio system alone. I'm kinda stuck with it for the time being. I don't make THAT kind of money. Here is how naive I was when I bought the H2: I had to go back to the H2 dealership several days later to pick up a few keys that were left in the F250 that I traded in. While I was there, I noticed a brand spanking new H2 that had been keyed from front turn signal to the rear signal. I went inside and asked my salesman if some dudes angry wife had gone nuts! He said, "NO, it was the f**ing tree huggers!". My response at first was, what the hell is a tree hugger, I haven't heard that thrown around in a long time. Then it came together what he was talking about and I asked him if it was a big problem with treehuggers that I now own an H2, of course the answer was YES, and that on a list of the top ten most vandalised luxury vehicles targeted, the H2 was number 1. I think my heart stopped momentarily as I wondered just what the hell I had gotten myself into. Well, my next stop was here, the elcovaforums, and my first thread search was, you guessed it, vandalism.

So, in a nutshell, I love my H2, but I hate the image. People are quick to judge. Perhaps I judged Big Z too quick. Although he did insult me for no reason and the fight was on! I only had a simple negative opinion about the freakin tow bar. SORRY!

Not sure how I've rambled on this far, guess I like to hear myself type. :excited:

[Grizzy]

This is what I came out of, and I miss it, alot!

http://www.atvparkvideo.com/f250/truck2.jpg
http://www.atvparkvideo.com/f250/truck1.jpg
http://www.atvparkvideo.com/f250/truck3.jpg
http://www.atvparkvideo.com/f250/truck9.jpg

[dkhummerh2]

cool truck. don't worry about it, the tree hugger thing will drown out. Once the celibs move on, so will some of the crap. You seem like a guy that doesn't let things bother you, so they shouldn't matter as well. They can go ahead and **** with my truck, I think that it can take it.
best of luck in business
dk

[obzidian]

You see, i can respect that. The image of what you look like in w/e you drive, for example, is usually what we use to judge ppl instead of an honest view of how that person really is.

In miami, there are tons, tons.... i will repeat TONS of h2's. I remember before i got mine, that the h2 was just a pussy h1. Well, how wrong was I?! :) I took it for what i thought it was without any realy research. Tree huggers are just silly weed burning fools, with no soap around with a point to prove. Well, their want to be different is just as trendy as a h2 on 26' dubs.

I can understand that you got upset with Z and got off on a spill. That's fine, we all get like that. I just think you might of gotten a bit over board, but that is just me.


Anyways, truck looks awesome!!

LaterZ!

[DennisAJC]

That's fine, we all get like that.


Eat shit all of you.



:jump:

[johndjmix1]

Lets all be honest here. Anyone that tows anything over 10,000 with a diesel pusher is DEFINATLY exceeding the GCWR (Thats the gross weight of rv and trailer.....and all your stuff). I challenge someone to show me a diesel pusher that doesnt exceed this with even a 5,000lb trailer and a normal amount of stuff for a trip in the rv.

My next coach will be a dynamax grandsport. Based on a truck its GCWR is 80,000 lbs I beleave.

--John

[tower]

Grizzy, nice truck. Too bad it was a :lame: Ford! :jump::jump::jump:

[OldHiker]

Lets all be honest here. Anyone that tows anything over 10,000 with a diesel pusher is DEFINATLY exceeding the GCWR (Thats the gross weight of rv and trailer.....and all your stuff). I challenge someone to show me a diesel pusher that doesnt exceed this with even a 5,000lb trailer and a normal amount of stuff for a trip in the rv.

My next coach will be a dynamax grandsport. Based on a truck its GCWR is 80,000 lbs I beleave.

--John

Hey John. Before shooting off with that pie hole, check your facts. This is my specs.
http://www.newmarcorp.com/essex/specsspartan2.php

Apology not required.

[johndjmix1]

Old hiker, when you get into tag axle rigs costing over $300,000 the GCWR's go way up. However, I would still almost bet that if you take your rig to the scales its much higher than on the MFG sticker. I know my fleetwood disovery is, my buddys bounder diesel is, even my old winie Brave was close to 2000# over.

If your not over, good for you... I wish i was in the same boat, like I said....i need a new rig badly!

What motor you got in that thing, Cummins ISX 600, 525???

--John

[OldHiker]

It has the ISM 500hp engine with over 1800 ft lbs of torque! Imagine the pulling power the H2 would have with this setup.

I'm going to try an engine swap one weekend!:giggling:

[johndjmix1]

500 Nice =). Lets hope for the Diesel H2 in 09 or 10.

--John