Neon Underbody Kit

[hummer33]

i know there was a post on this before, but with all this new members i was wondering if anyone had a pic of a neon underbody kit installed on their h2's. thanks to anyone who contributes.

[hummer33]

i know there was a post on this before, but with all this new members i was wondering if anyone had a pic of a neon underbody kit installed on their h2's. thanks to anyone who contributes.

[noc]

You're not serious are you? H2 doesn't get enough attention? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I don't understand why anybody would install a neon kit unless it was used as an advertising show piece. Other than that.. it's nasty.

[AlamoJim]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
frelling obvious http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
another indicator of Phil's questionable origins... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
neons on ANY (non-show) vehicle are serious 'mommy didn't give me enough attention' indicators...
they scream "LOOK AT ME...LOOK AT ME...for the love of God PLEASE LOOK AT ME!"

If you want neon...why not lower it and paint it purple while your at it? If your gonna pimp you might as well were the hat too...

The difference between Genius and Stupidity?
Genius has limits...
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[AlamoJim]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AlamoJim:
another indicator of Phil's questionable origins... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I didn't think there was any question http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL, I am right in there with you!

The difference between Genius and Stupidity?
Genius has limits...
http://www.sajeeps.com/images/sajeeps_banner.jpg (http://www.sajeeps.com)

[AlamoJim]

my hat is not back from the cleaners yet...having the big feather cleaned by hand takes time you know... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The difference between Genius and Stupidity?
Genius has limits...
http://www.sajeeps.com/images/sajeeps_banner.jpg (http://www.sajeeps.com)

[AlamoJim]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
Look who's talking! Lord and Lady Fox who want to have all the trim on their Regal Red Fox H2 24ct gold plated, please... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

in the shape of mouse ears no less... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The difference between Genius and Stupidity?
Genius has limits...
http://www.sajeeps.com/images/sajeeps_banner.jpg (http://www.sajeeps.com)

[KMAzz]

You could get a set of white neons. As mentioned offroaidng to light under the truck. Or wire them so when you open the door they turn on and could be used to light the ground/side steps. Just an Idea

2003 Yellow H2
1993 Ford Probe GT(SHOW CAR)

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[AlamoJim]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jnsfox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AlamoJim:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
Look who's talking! Lord and Lady Fox who want to have all the trim on their Regal Red Fox H2 24ct gold plated, please... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

in the shape of mouse ears no less... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is a cool idea, the ears NOT the gold...wait, on second thought... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Joyce<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol, you 2 are just big kids at heart!

The difference between Genius and Stupidity?
Genius has limits...
http://www.sajeeps.com/images/sajeeps_banner.jpg (http://www.sajeeps.com)

[WhiteH2Kid]

I have a Red L.E.D underbody kit that changes many patterns and you can pick one you like. Its made by Valad. It is very nice and lights up the underbody/street very well have gotten many comments on it and lots of people love to just watch the different patterns.

[hummer33]

a knew a response would come from a owner. i should have guessed to ask the "whiteh2kid" first. someone with that name http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[KMAzz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WhiteH2Kid:
I have a Red L.E.D underbody kit that changes many patterns and you can pick one you like. Its made by Valad. It is very nice and lights up the underbody/street very well have gotten many comments on it and lots of people love to just watch the different patterns.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


You mean varad right? Never heard of valad

2003 Yellow H2
1993 Ford Probe GT(SHOW CAR)

http://importxdream.com/3333.jpg

[WhiteH2Kid]

yes I did mean Valad sorry.

[drouke]

I don't know why anyone would want one, but I saw one on ebay.

[MAC]

They are quite inexpensive, cheap ones hanging in auto stores, Target and Wal-Mart. The better ones have remote control, which is quite neat, imagine if you can turn on the neon lights outside the disco. I think $100-$200. If you search eBay, there are lots of them. I thought about it but gave up on that since I couldn't figure out when or where I may use it. I saw a truck with it light up in LA last week, looks very cool.
If I know how to install them, I would buy a set.

I think for offroad use, the tubes will be broken within the first few minutes.

$9. Up for sale are 12" Single Cold Cathode Units with Inverters, in 6 color choices.
Available colors are Blue! Red! White! Green! PURPLE and UV (Black)!
Included with the purchase: 1 (one) 12" Cold Cathode bulb with polycarbonite casing, and 1 (one) 12volt Inverter. The bulb comes ready to connect to the inverters. This is a great do-it-yourself kit for auto enthusiasts. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2451848462&category=33714

There are tons of them here. http://listings.ebaymotors.com/aw/plistings/category33714/index.html?from=R11

[MAC]

Looks nice. My Hummer is a toy, why not. Maybe one of these days I get a set. $129 with remote.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2453455859&category=33714

[hummer33]

they do look nice.. a little tacky.. but it is a toy http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif thanks mac for the great info.. will give an update

[MAC]

Every other aftermarket accessories costs more than this underbody remote neon kit, consider how dramatic the light is, it is a far better investment/return value. Such as compare with big offroad lights or brush guard, honestly how often do you use them? or do you really need all those extra stuffs?

I am not sure if the neon light is tacky, I may feel the same about all those add-on and chrome stuffs, but I respectfully withheld my opinion, not easy, many times I almost said something and I really want to, but I did not, yet. The neon is unconventional, but why is 4 offroad lights, overkill racks and huge extra bars okay? or why is super chrome everywhere not tacky?

Neon light is crazy, maybe I want to do it just for that reason, or maybe not. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Let me see your pictures once you are done.

[hummer33]

the one on ebay that changes color is the one im going with.. wait for pics

[MAC]

Show us the photos once you are done. I might just be crazy enough to install them too. Some might say a middle age man trying to grab on to youth, but it will be exciting, and just crazy enough to add some zest to my life.

[Centerfire]

DOn't look at it that way.. I look at it this way. A middle aged man who never got out of his 1st childhood.. Simply I can now afford the toys I wanted when I was younger. WOrks for me.

Mike<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAC:
Show us the photos once you are done. I might just be crazy enough to install them too. Some might say a middle age man trying to grab on to youth, but it will be exciting, and just crazy enough to add some zest to my life.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[MAC]

It is unlikely(80%) I'd get the neon but I might(20%). But my chance of buying a Hummer was 0%, buying a luxury sedan was 100%, I ended up buying a Hummer. You got to do some crazy unexpected paradigm shifting things to free up your mind and body, otherwise life gets staled and too comfotable in its usual track.

A mother at my son's school said to me at a party: "So you ARE the Hummer Guy! my son kept on talking about that Hummer Guy." From others' viewpoints, I am no longer who I was simply because I bought a Hummer, nobody (even old friends) remember I had nothing to do with Hummer just 15 months ago. I didn't plan on that, if I bought a S500, I would now be just another parent in a sea of Mercedes. I took a sharp turn back in Sept 02 in buying the Hummer, which was not a big deal to us at that time, but turned out to be a refreshing big deal.

There are a few places I can use the underbody neon.
1- Driving to the country clubs and lodges, there are long driveways. The guards at the security houses and the valet will freak out. Members may not like that, but maybe I don't care.
2- Driving in the hills near my house where there is almost no traffic and no cop.

Cheap thrill. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

hummer33, which changing colors remote kit are you talking about? give me a link.
I am sure I don't want flashing strobe headlights, nor neon plate frame and all other neon crazy things, maybe just the changing colors underbody neon with remote.

[This message was edited by MAC on 01-13-04 at 09:41 AM.]

[hummer33]

Mac, ill go with either of these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2453127633&category=33714

and most like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2453597030&category=33714

nice affect

[MAC]

Hummer33, where are your Hummer underbody neon light pictures? bought yet? done yet? I want to see them pictures. I am very interested in doing the same low class cheap trick. But I want to see how low class it looks before I buy and install this underbody neon on my Hummer. Even I have limits as to how low I can get. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Thanks, hurry up, what are you waiting for?

[hummer33]

MAC, i saw the underbody on an h2 the other day in Boston. totally changed my mind. it looks like ****. most of the light is absorbed by the truck's under equipment. very tacky looking.. go for it if that what floats your boat.. if im desperate.. ill put a few flashlight under the truck http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[WhiteH2Kid]

This is why you need to get it installed by somebody very good where they will position the lights so it all hits the ground. Also the L.E.D underglow is ALOT brighter. Mine lights up the entire ground and looks amazing!

[MAC]

Please kindly show us some pictures, we like to see. I thought the one Hummer33 saw maybe was badly installed. The correct directions and positions of the tubes should prevent illuminating the underbody, it is for ground lighting.
I can imagine it is not easy to take a picture of Hummer at night with neon lights.

How many colors do you have?
I personally think just blue or just white color should be cool.

[Dan]

MAC, didn't you have a crazy light-up disco antenna at one time? Might have to get that baby out again!

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[hummer33]

whiteh2kid.. PICTURES PLEASE. mac wants to prove me wrong http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[MAC]

I was at Target buying somethings a couple days ago, I visited the Automotive section and was looking at those neon things for inside the car. I actually had 1-2 of them in my hands to buy, but returned them to the shelf before I checked out. I had that blinking LED neon antenna inside the Hummer once, I could not drive with it, in the dark the blue neon light was blinding.

I like to and want to do some crazy stuffs, keep my mind sharp and refreshed. As you know, whether most people agree or disagree with me is rarely relevant to me.

[MAC]

I went offroad twice, don't take it personally, I thought it was boring and stupid, "Is that all there is?" I tried it out twice, simply because I wondered there must be a reason why these people are so dedicated to it and kept on selling and pushing it like a religion, it is not good enough they like it, they have to convert others. First time it was boring, so I tried it out again just to make sure I didn't miss anything, but second time it was boring and stupid. Nothing wrong with offroad, more power to you, just not my cup of tea. Obviously I enjoy the company of you offroad guys and I respect you guys accordingly, but frankly most of you are rather rough and rude characters, nothing right or wrong about it, thats just the way offroad people are.

Don't feel bad, I tried out churches and they didn't work for me. I never have neon underbody lights, maybe I'll try it. If it as boring as offroad and churches to me, I'll move on and find something else. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[PARAGON]

Mac,

You rarely make much sense but now you seem to be contradicting yourself. Are you relevent to yourself. You "complained" about people who offroad breaking and damaging their vehicles. But now say you went offroad and it was boring and stupid?

Nothing boring about avoiding damaging your vehicle on a big rock. So did your offroad experience consist of a drive on someone's gravel driveway.

[MAC]

What branch of British military did you serve in as a real man? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I sometimes think draft should be reinstated to make some real men out of make-believe real men, and to teach them some core value and manner. Life in the military is harsh and unpleasant, those who play soldiers will never understand. Only by being on duty away from family for extended time make you appreciate every minute you have with your wife and children. Offroad was not a hobby but a daily routine you hated, Jeeps were no toys but just tools, shooting was work because you have to clean it, 24/7/365 just inches away from 100 sweaty buddies was not by choice, daily 5 miles run with full gear at 0600 was not excise but torture. Real Men? Looks who's talking. Hahaha. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Call me a sissy if you want, I spend my weekends with my wife and children, not a minute I can afford to waste.

My friend Paragon, I didn't think you could understand much of my words, but you are still my friend. It is only funny to think that anyone believes $thousands in damages mean nothing to any working men with wife and children and mortgage and small businesses or cubicle jobs.

[MAC]

PhilD, you are one cool guy, always thought so. My punch was only one line, but I was a bit worried that one punch might have been a bit too heavy for you. Your reply proved that I was right to know you are one cool guy standing tall above others, any other lesser men would be hurt and angry and drag it on.

I want to see picture(s) of neon light under Hummer, pleaseeee. I found a Hispanic installation place 20 miles away, the ad specifically say they do underbody neon kits. I called and he does not speak English, no matter, he will do. But I need to see some pictures first. Thanks.

[PARAGON]

Mac,

I assume you deleted a post or I am just short of the funny farm. If you served our country, I certainly commend you. It is noble even though most who have served in combat certainly wouldn't think so. I am not of age to have worried about the draft nor combat but I did make the mistake of joining the Marines. I finished 4th in my high school class, had football as well as academic scholarships to Division 1 schools, but my family served in all branches except the Marines because the Marine Corp offered the hardest training. For some reason I felt there was something bigger to conquer. I now have screws in my shoulder courtesy of the Marines.

So I have sipped from the cup of war (if I may be so bold) but I don't have any illusions about what I experienced in comparison to a combat veteran.

BUT I do know that by your description I must be a Real Man's Man. I get to go off-road on the weekends and take my family with me. I work from my home, my wife doesn't work and I have a 3 year old daughter that I get to see throughout the day every day of the week. My family is #1 to me.

And I think that you are taking the off-road to the extreme. Just like you don't plan to have an accident and you do all you can to avoid it, I don't do anything that I know will cause damage to my vehicle. I am a pretty frugal guy but I do recognize value and spending time in the outdoors with my family is very valuable to me and few other things allow for the experiences that off roading can give.

Just as in the rest of the world some that off road are careless and do stupid things that does cause alot of damage, but I agree with you that it's silly to think that they don't care.

[MAC]

Paragon, let's not take this offroad or not or whatever thingie too far, there is nothing deeper in this offroad hobby, I have nothing against it and I frankly don't think about it much, maybe No. 1000 or 10,000 on my brain list. How others twist my words is not in my control nor my concern, kids may get excited trying to defend or define words, I just moved onto to the next post without emotion. I see some friends here out offroad most weekends without families, not my families, but I still feel sort of sorry for their wivies and children, but not my business. What we do here is meaningless fun chat, as long as we all keep that in mind, nobody freaks out, get bend out of shape in anger or jump out of a building.

A little gentlemen's battle of words is always welcomed and appreciated, I think most of us are pretty cool about it and have the excess brain space to handle it, few juniors get a bit excited and lose control but that is also part of the fun.

[TheWB]

Ok, if you want a serious underbody kit. Check this out:
ExtremeCarVideo (http://www.extremecarvideo.com/product_info.php?cPath=104_105&products_id=122)

7 different colors in one package, 10 different display modes, including pulses to music. Capability to add up to 18tubes! Even wireless remote control of all the functions. And they are about 3 times brighter than neons.

[Dan]

That one needs a mirror ball and a smoke machine to be complete.

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[DRTYFN]

The more I look at these things (that I've despised for so long) the more I can see their value for wheeling at night. They would be perfect for illuminating the underside of the H2 making the spotter's job that much easier.
I'd definitely get one color(probably white) and skip the gay rainbow flag feature. I'll leave that to the little homo WhiteH2Kid.

S&B Member since '03

[MAC]

Another practical value I can see is if you are going out with another couple at night, they are not familair with the height and the positions of the steps, especially older folks but equally dangerous for young ladies in evening dresses too, the underbody light can be quite useful as safety feature. I've seen too many times first time passengers searching for the door handle to get out, or fishing for the step or ground and missed the step. One slip end in broken/twist ankle is all it takes to mess up peaceful life for weeks/months. If nothing else, you don't want them to step on the wrong place and scratch your paint.

Multi-colors is silly and childish, simple white or blue light is good enough for me.

If blue light on vehicle is illegal, do you think just white underbody light on pavement is legal?

[FrgMstr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAC:
I see some friends here out offroad most weekends without families, not my families, but I still feel sort of sorry for their wivies and children, but not my business.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hell, the reason I have an H2 is so I can bring the family along while wheeling! If I was going to do otherwise, I would have bought a Rubicon and put the cash into hop ups for it.

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[FrgMstr]

Hehe, check out the hottie in the back seat!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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[MAC]

Phil, with the exception of Hummer back-in accident(s) during the first month 17 months ago, I had no accident for 17+ years or longer, no ticket for 4 years and no ticket on record.

We have friends of all ages, but we also have many older friends (60-70), close personal friends who we meet frequently. The main reason is because many clubs and fraternities I belong to have more older members, younger people don't join groups or cannot afford to. When we walk into a ballroom of 500 people, we generally know the first name of 300-400+ people. I do not see the difference in ages, except I do enjoy the company of older and more stable people, and it is a good personal challenge to be with people who are wiser and more successful than I.

[DRTYFN]

Nice black out job, Froggy. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S&B Member since '03

[PARAGON]

Mac, the pro at interjecting unnecessary information that only serves to overinflate his absent ego. Next thing you know, Mac will be name-dropping to continue his quest of self-importance.

[DRTYFN]

I'm starting to get the feeling that Mac is pulling a Zero Tolerance on us and maybe embellishing just a wee bit.

S&B Member since '03

[MAC]

Where did I mention rich and powerful? or are you just imagining it?

In every town in America, big cities or small rural towns, there are service clubs such as Lions Club and Rotary Club, there are 5 million Freemasons out there($4 Million charity donations every single day,), Scottish Rites, Italian Clubs, PTA, veterans groups, local business clubs and local golf clubs. The people are regular folks like bank managers, insurance agents, attorneys, shop owners, etc. I don't think there is anything rich or powerful about your community associations, the goals are simple: charity work and friendship. There is huge reward in doing something for others with no personal financial gain. I have been involved in all these associations since I was in my 20s, as my late father did, and I have served as Presidents or Masters of all these groups.

It is your loss that you do not participate and be a part of your community and do not help out the less fortunated ones amongst us. Bush Sr. talked about a thousand points of light, yet the Left laughed at him, there is nothing funny about community and charity works. You are only showing everyone your ignorance.

Being with better, successful and wiser people only help yourself. When I join a new group, I am impressed with the people I meet, I feel they are better, more successful and wiser than me, I work to improve myself to catch up to them. I listen, watch and read to catch up. Inevitablly, years later I am no longer impressed with the same people. What happened was not they changed, but I changed and I passed them. They challenged and helped me. I continue to be friends and active in them, but I start searching for a higher mountain to climb, even better people to catch up to.

If you think this Hummer forum is great, you should check out your local clubs and fraternities, you havn't seen nothing yet. Song, dance, wine, great food, laughters, great stories and lifelong friendship every month and every week. You don't have to be rich or powerful, you just have to be sincere, honest and good.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAC:
...The main reason is because many clubs and fraternities I belong to have more older members, younger people don't join groups or cannot afford to...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Community associations?... cannot afford to?

Mac, backtracking with your double-speak again.

[DRTYFN]

He should be a Democratic politician- claiming to be of & for the people but reeking of elitism. His back-pedaling technique needs some works though.

S&B Member since '03

[MAC]

Everyday there are millions of people out there helping their comminuties and less fortunated ones. I was serving in St. Anthony's dinning room last week with my wife and 13 year old son. You can smell the piss in the food line. You are making fun of volunteers? you don't even know how stupid you are. It takes time from you work and family, it takes money to help, whether it is $10 or $1 million, if you are busy with mortgage, car payments, you don't have the freedom to leave work, it is a luxury you cannot afford. The saddest part for you is that you don't have the purity of heart to help others and your community.

There are a lot of young people involved, a lot of people in their 20s are joining the Freemasonry and local service clubs. Thousands are my fraternity brothers, judges, policemen, students, carpenter, mayors, senators, gasman, phone lineman, security guard, everyone of them swore to help me if I ask. Who do you have to drop everything on their hands and come help you when you need it? what friends do you have to drop everything in your hands and rush to their help?

[PARAGON]

Preach to us from atop your pedestal.

Surely you've attended the Bill Clinton school of misdirection and double-speak, you just don't employ it very well.

Mac, most everyone has "real" friends and family to come to their aid. They don't need to join a group to feel like they have a new friend. By the way, those are acquaintances, not friends you have, look into it.

No one here has said a derogatory comment against volunteerism and no one except you are holding their unselfish contributions over the heads of other forum members. Give it a rest, Fantasy Island is no more.

[MAC]

You are such a stupid worthless piece of ****, the best part is that you don't even know it.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAC:
You are such a stupid worthless piece of ****, the best part is that you don't even know it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Now, there is the REAL Mac showing himself as he really is. Careful, you might start sounding like Drty.

If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle them with bull****, eh Mac.

[This message was edited by paragon on 02-13-04 at 10:26 AM.]

[MAC]

Was I Mr. Congeniality before I called you a worthless stupid piece of ****?
Is calling you a worthless stupid piece of **** real MAC?
Is there anything brilliant in calling you a worthless stupid piece of ****?
or is it bull**** calling you a worthless stupid piece of ****?
Did I dazzle anyone by pointing out you are a worthless stupid piece of ****?
Are you dazzled by being a worthless stupid piece of ****?
or are you baffled by being called a worthless stupid piece of ****?

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAC:
Was I Mr. Congeniality before I called you a worthless stupid piece of ****?
Is calling you a worthless stupid piece of **** real MAC?
Is there anything brilliant in calling you a worthless stupid piece of ****?
or is it bull**** calling you a worthless stupid piece of ****?
Did I dazzle anyone by pointing out you are a worthless stupid piece of ****?
Are you dazzled by being a worthless stupid piece of ****?
or are you baffled by being called a worthless stupid piece of ****?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>YES

[H2Finally]

MAC, always a fan of your writing. In fact I decided to join in the forum due to a large part to the cool manner you handle everyone elses hot replies. Therefore, it is upsetting to see you lapse into such an emotional response to Paragon http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Obviously everyone enjoys goading you -- and in this case I must say the point goes to Paragon for successfuly flustering the normally 'unflusterable' MAC! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Unless you are stepping out of character just to 'try it out'?? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAC:
What we do here is meaningless fun chat, as long as we all keep that in mind, nobody freaks out, get bend out of shape in anger or jump out of a building.

A little gentlemen's battle of words is always welcomed and appreciated, I think most of us are pretty cool about it and have the excess brain space to handle it, few juniors get a bit excited and lose control but that is also part of the fun.

My friend Paragon, I didn't think you could understand much of my words, but you are still my friend.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

04 Pewter

[MAC]

Always calculated and intentional, never emotional.

I learned long ago in business that the only effective way to treat a bully is to bully back. 80% of the times, the bully crawl into the corner, as demonstrated here.

Once I snapped at a young smart-ass manager during a meeting, regretted it afterward, but I was shocked to know that everyone congratulated me after the meeting, it soon spread around like wildfire among associates even in other firms, everyone was so impressed and still talk about it few years later. They talked about the case like it was a badge of honor.

[H2Finally]

Got you http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

04 Pewter

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAC:
I learned long ago in business that the only effective way to treat a bully is to bully back. 80% of the times, the bully crawl into the corner, as demonstrated here.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>So, you're curled up in the corner now? Still sipping the gin though I bet.

[Hummer Man]

Mac, I must say a very enjoyable thread!

[PARAGON]

Oh, and contratulations! I hate it when smart-ass managers are bullies.

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAC:
Always calculated and intentional, never emotional. Yeah, nice try.

I learned long ago in business that the only effective way to treat a bully is to bully back. 80% of the times, the bully crawl into the corner, as demonstrated here.Ahh... the Zen Master.

Once I snapped at a young smart-ass manager during a meeting, regretted it afterward, but I was shocked to know that everyone congratulated me after the meeting, it soon spread around like wildfire among associates even in other firms, everyone was so impressed and still talk about it few years later. They talked about the case like it was a badge of honor.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Aren't you just the stuff of legends? I bet they even sang songs of praise about you from the tops of mountains and got tattoos of your likeness over their hearts. I'm in awe of you right now.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Get over your royal self.
All it took was a little poking, prodding, teasing and a smidgen of questioning of character for "Mac" to snap. Just think of the fun to be had with a full-fledged assault.
Your Highness, you weren't even starting to get bullied and you know it, so get off your high horse.

S&B Member since '03

[MAC]

drtyfn, are you coming down to San Francisco this weekend to get married? driving or flying?
Thousands are lining up in City hall to get married, including many homosexuals flew in from all over the country. The City Hall should take in about $50,000 in marriage license fee this weekend. 590 same sex marriages were done on Friday, assembly line style.

The hearing is set for Tuesday at 2PM for an injunction, it is likely the judge may stop the same sex marriage. You better hurry! The City Hall is open everyday during the long 3 days weekend, better not miss the opportunity, who knows when the next chance will be.

Don't call me, I'll call you. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[DRTYFN]

Sorry, I'm not on that team. But it isn't surprising that you know all of the information and stats about gay marriages down there.
And contrary to what that butch guy in open cheeked leather chaps told you when he had his fist in your dirtiest of areas up to his elbow, that's not a legally binding "engagement". So you're still free to explore your alternate lifestyle & the limits of the elasticity of your sphincter in as many gangbang clubs as you can find.

Don't worry about me calling you- I don't call gay chat lines.

S&B Member since '03

[MAC]

I am pretty open minded about these sort of things. I have known too many gays as friends, employees and consultants in the past years, they are no different than anybody else, if not nicer people. I was dead set against gay marriage, but last night when watching TV news, my wife and I talked about it briefly, in the end I decided it really doesn't matter to me, it is their business. I don't agree with it, don't touch me and my children, I don't think it is normal, but they deserve their freedom to choose.

I have a cousin who is a tough well known corp lawyer, volunteered 3 tours in Vietnam, requested out of HQ legal desk job for combat duties. Married with children and divorced. Few years ago he showed up with his boyfriend/partner in a family funeral and came out of the closet. I also personally knew several cases like that, left the wives and kids and turned gay or came out gay.

I remembered someone here proudly said he does not read any newspaper nor watch TV news. I cannot imagine that, how can anyone be ignorant and survive and proud of it? My daily morning pleasure is to have a cup of coffee, a smoke and read the entire newspaper.

[kw427]

haven't posted in a while, but i just can't help it having noticed one of our auctions referenced for this topic! it motivated me to video our H2....

here's our latest auction w/ video:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2461944021

yes, it is more show than go (off-road).

H2- Pewter-Lux, 3rd seat, 18x10" Welds/35" BFG, billet fuel lid
00' ///M Z3,H&R,Sharked,ACS hoops
99' 540i, ACSIII, H&R

[ssgharkness020147]

Mac,
When I went to school in Oregon there was a kid whose dad came out like that. Real messy situation, all of that was way to wierd for this kid.

Carey Harkness
1998 HMCO

[MAC]

Carey, I am a San Franciscan so naturally I/we am quite used to gays and we interact with gays and lesbians like straights or anybody else, they are everywhere and in every part of the social and business fabrics. Tolerence is part of the San Francisco tradition which we take great pride in, from the days of the hippies. That does not mean I agree with it or if that is normal, and I am annoyed by the high profile, constant noise and political agenda they are always pushing. Likewise I am very uncomfortable to see men kissing or holding hands, or women kissing and holding hands but that is so common here, nobody take a second look.

At this point, I am confused about gay marriage. On one hand I crossed the bridge and say let them do it, its their choice; on the other hand, it seems all wrong and against thousands of years of human tradition and value, and what wrong message it sends to the children and the society at large.

I'd be interested to see what others here think about this. There maybe some surprises.

[MAC]

If my memory serves me right, I do not recall any anti-SUV rally or activity or statement came out of San Francisco. I think that was a Hollywood driven act, with acts around the country. I personally never had a dirty look or any problem driving around the City and parked in many different areas, downtown, commercial, South of Market art, shopping, hippie, North Beach beat, Chinatown, gay Castro, soup kitchen slum and varies residential left or right neighborhoods. I rarely see Hummers in the suburbs, but always see many Hummer H2s in the City.

[PARAGON]

Mac's new avitar

[kw427]

hey, what happened to the neon underbody thread? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

perhaps i should go to the gay and lesbian boards and post pics of my h2 w/ neons?

H2- Pewter-Lux, 3rd seat, 18x10" Welds/35" BFG, billet fuel lid
00' ///M Z3,H&R,Sharked,ACS hoops
99' 540i, ACSIII, H&R

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kw427:
hey, what happened to the neon underbody thread? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

perhaps i should go to the gay and lesbian boards and post pics of my h2 w/ neons?

H2- Pewter-Lux, 3rd seat, 18x10" Welds/35" BFG, billet fuel lid
00' ///M Z3,H&R,Sharked,ACS hoops
99' 540i, ACSIII, H&R
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><span class="ev_code_RED">Good Idea</span>

[02RedWS6TA]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
Actually, there is a value to those underbody kits. They actually light up the truck pretty good underneath for night off roading. Apart from that I think they are more suited to little ricers and not an H2, they lack any seriousness and show no style whatsoever in my opinion, but I expect there are already a few out there... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good luck keeping them from breaking. The bulbs are so fragile they'ed snap if the H2 even thought of flexing.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 02RedWS6TA:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
Actually, there is a value to those underbody kits. They actually light up the truck pretty good underneath for night off roading. Apart from that I think they are more suited to little ricers and not an H2, they lack any seriousness and show no style whatsoever in my opinion, but I expect there are already a few out there... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good luck keeping them from breaking. The bulbs are so fragile they'ed snap if the H2 even thought of flexing. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Thanks Einstein. Boy, you saved a lot of us from that major error. And to think we were all rushing out to get the neons installed. Whew!

[H2Finally]

Damn it! I was just about to get the auto-change-7-color one!