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AK47
02-04-2009, 08:04 PM
Hi All

Listen i have been looking for a upgrade tie rod kit for my H2 as i have big boots on it it of course puts a strain on things now i found this ,,, http://www.car-stuff.com/carparts/hummerh220032006fabtechf37fts71002113454.html now even i have recently replaced them i thought this would be a great kit to have ,, now i have one point i need to raise ,,will these fit,? as it says only with fabteck suspensions ,,can anybody tell me if it would fit if i dont have the fabteck suspension ,

cheers

:confused:

LEcustoms
02-04-2009, 08:09 PM
From what I have been reading they will fit on non lifted truck. I might have misunderstood. If i did someone please correct me. If you do get them trail duty sells the same thing for alot less. Here is the link. http://www.trailduty.com/product_info.php?cPath=112_118_120&products_id=109

AK47
02-04-2009, 08:13 PM
Hi there well all helps ,,,lifted well not really i only have the TRUXXX front leveling kit on i dont think counts ,,maybe helps ,,,lets see i am sure someone can give imput to this


cheers:iagree:

LEcustoms
02-04-2009, 09:04 PM
I hope the truxx counts cause all I have done for the front suspension so far is the greens keys and was looking at getting these tie rods eventually too.

AK47
02-04-2009, 09:11 PM
ok well i am sure we will get help on here:jump:

Boss Hoss
02-04-2009, 10:17 PM
Many stock rigs run the Fabtech tie rods. Back in the day when the site was full of people who wheeled their rig, most upgraded to the Fabtechs. I have been running the Fabtechs personally with 0 problems. In fact if you wheel i feel they are necessary.

RippSpeed
02-05-2009, 12:24 AM
Many stock rigs run the Fabtech tie rods. Back in the day when the site was full of people who wheeled their rig, most upgraded to the Fabtechs. I have been running the Fabtechs personally with 0 problems. In fact if you wheel i feel they are necessary.


but will they work with leveling kits ??? I think they should

OrangeCrush
02-05-2009, 12:38 AM
Better hope they work. I just received a set last week that I haven't installed. I only have the Truxx kit on mine right now.

I used these same tierod ends on my lifted H2 and had no problems with them. To me, it's a first mod kind of thing.

BTW, if you do want to buy them, you can find them for 35 bucks cheaper on ebay. I only paid 249.


Mark

splne1
02-05-2009, 12:57 AM
You have to purchase a sway bar extension from what I read on the ebay auctions. It tends to have a possibility to rub on the sway bar.

Cesardajr
02-05-2009, 01:37 AM
I have the fab tech tie rods with the ready lift kit which is the same as the truxx kit and the green key kit and they work fine.
i do not have a swar bar extension and i have had zero problems for 2 years 4 months.

tomp
02-05-2009, 04:49 AM
Fabtech states this because there is risk under a binded steering position, that the large inner tie rod joint can bind against the sway bar. When there is stress on the centerlink, the curved ends tend to cause the centerlink to twist upward due to geometry of this curve in the centerlink. To control this "twisting of the centerlink" (which also causes premature wear of the pitman/idler arms, I might add) the Cognito Pitman/Idler support kit is highly recommended. This Cognito kit will actually keep stock tie rods from breaking so easy due to the nature of it controlling the centerlink from twisting - which in turn keeps the tie rods from getting into a binded position. I suggest this kit even before upgrading to HD tie rods!

Once you have both kits (HD tie rods and Cognito P/I arm kit), the next best thing to do is to get the Cognito OEM length sway bar end links. They are called OEM length, but are 1" taller then the OEM links, which allows more clearance between the HD tie rods' inner joint and sway bar.

The other good thing about their end links is they incorporate a swivel link for the lower control arm. This is perfect for those with the Truxx kit or any other scenario of cranked torsion bars. When you crank the TBs with any of the methods out there, the lower control arms are now at a more severe angle and the sway bar link geometry is now "off". This swivel corrects the geometry to compensate for the cranked up torsion bars. They are also better quality and more HD than the OEM links. Very good mod for the price!

SummitUp
02-05-2009, 04:52 AM
The reason Fabtech won't endorse their tie rods for H2's is because the inner rubber boot will only clear the sway bar by about 1/8 inch in a full lock turn. The boot can actually be torn when turning hard while off-roading. Dozens of H2 owners run Fabtech's with no problems however.

This pic tells the story:
http://i552.photobucket.com/albums/jj360/Colorado_Breeze/H2%20Tech/fabtech_stabilizer_clearance.jpg

The cure for this situation is to replace the sway bar links with Cognito sway bar links (http://cognitomotorsports.com/store/page149.html). They're longer than OEM and will give about 3/4" clearance:
http://cognitomotorsports.com/store/media/images/HD_END_LINK_KIT.JPG

Interesting thread on Fabtech vs. Cognito tie rods <Here> (http://www.clubhummeroffroad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3454).

SummitUp
02-05-2009, 04:57 AM
Dang it Tom! You beat me to it!:raar: :)

AK47
02-05-2009, 11:58 AM
Well i awake to find amazings detailed replies ,you guys fail to amaze me thnks for all your help and input ,

Now the big question can you recomend who what and where i can buy these parts ,,the issue i have as many other european memebers have nobody wants our money

:beerchug:

tomp
02-05-2009, 01:53 PM
Dang it Tom! You beat me to it!:raar: :)

Finally...LOL. You beat me on most all the rest of them!

SummitUp
02-05-2009, 03:25 PM
Finally...LOL. You beat me on most all the rest of them!
Hardly! I think you wrote the book on most of this stuff! :beerchug:

Well i awake to find amazings detailed replies ,you guys fail to amaze me thnks for all your help and input ...
We fail to amaze you!? Man, what does it take to amaze you!? :jump:

Now the big question can you recomend who what and where i can buy these parts ,,the issue i have as many other european memebers have nobody wants our money:beerchug:
I would contact Phil at trailduty.com. He's a moderator at w-w-w-.h-u-m-m-e-r-x-c-l-u-b-.c-o-m (take out the dashes), he's from the UK and I think he would help you out. If your a member over there, you could PM him directly, or just call the phone number on the Trailduty website and ask for Phil. Tell 'em SummitUp sent you! ;)

AK47
02-05-2009, 03:37 PM
yeep sounds good i have sent a email:perfect10s:

tomp
02-05-2009, 07:12 PM
X2 on Phil at Trail Duty!

Best prices, shipping and support!

tomp
02-05-2009, 07:15 PM
Hey Summitup, you get them spacers installed okay? Never heard back...

BTW, I need to update my signature - looks like you are starting to catch up:crying:

SummitUp
02-05-2009, 08:04 PM
Hey Summitup, you get them spacers installed okay? Never heard back...
I never got back to you because I've been without internet access for the last 2 weeks! My ISP is a small wireless internet provider (WISP) up here in the mountains, and one of their repeater towers got damaged by the high winds we've had recently. :raar:

I just sent you a PM (from that "other site" :D ).

BTW, I need to update my signature - looks like you are starting to catch up:crying:
Man, I doubt I'll ever catch up with you! :D

OrangeCrush
02-06-2009, 03:32 AM
yeep sounds good i have sent a email:perfect10s:

Hey AK, if you can't get any help, let me know. I don't mind buying a set and shipping them from the US here.

HTH's,

Mark

AK47
02-08-2009, 07:51 PM
Hardly! I think you wrote the book on most of this stuff! :beerchug:


We fail to amaze you!? Man, what does it take to amaze you!? :jump:


I would contact Phil at trailduty.com. He's a moderator at w-w-w-.h-u-m-m-e-r-x-c-l-u-b-.c-o-m (take out the dashes), he's from the UK and I think he would help you out. If your a member over there, you could PM him directly, or just call the phone number on the Trailduty website and ask for Phil. Tell 'em SummitUp sent you! ;)


sent a couple of emails to this guy but no responce ,,look if you are in touch with this guy please pass on my details ,,as i wish to place a order thanks

grant:D