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ROX
03-21-2005, 08:20 PM
I was reading an article in Truck Trend magazine about the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, and it said : "If you want a fighting chance of getting thru Hell's Gate,(Moab, UT) ease your way thru in the 2005 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon without spending a dime on aftermarket upgrades. This is the serious off-roader's dream ride, one that takes four-wheeling to a level never before offered by a vehicle manufacturer. As Jeep says, the Unlimited Rubicon is where "extreme out-of-the-box off-roader meet ultimate 4x4 versatility."

What?! I bet he drives a Hummer when no one's watching cuz that was a line straight out of a Hummer ad. However, the article makes NO mention of the Rubicon EVER looking good on Wilshire Blvd, like it does when describing the H2 SUT. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Look out Hells Gate!.. Hummer is about to pay a visit! (3 weeks and counting)

Truck Trend also had these things to say about the H2 SUT:

"Will the H2 SUT halt the plummeting sales free-fall Hummer's been in of late? We doubt it, but the H2 might be an effictive air brake until a meaningful parachute, called the H3(an even smaller sibling), goes on sale later this year. Until then, the H2 SUT (as in sport/utility truck) offers an interesting twist on the now familiar H2."

"We were impressed with how easily the SUT's basic four-seat-plus-a-mini-bed can be reconfigured into two-seat-plus-four-by-six-foot box (rear glass that electrically retracts into the fold-down midgate greatly simplifies things). But regardless of the configuration, it was clambering up some of the steepest dirt goat trails and, yes, parading down Wilshire Boulevard in Beverly Hills, where the Hummer H2 earned its most admiring glances.

They gave the interior a 2 star rating. Design was 3 stars, performance 3 stars and value 2 stars. Engineering was 5 stars.
At the bottom of the picture were these words:" Perhaps this is the H2 GM should've built in the first place."

That was the whole article on the H2. They certainly didn't have anything "yummy" to say about it did they?

ROX
03-21-2005, 08:20 PM
I was reading an article in Truck Trend magazine about the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, and it said : "If you want a fighting chance of getting thru Hell's Gate,(Moab, UT) ease your way thru in the 2005 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon without spending a dime on aftermarket upgrades. This is the serious off-roader's dream ride, one that takes four-wheeling to a level never before offered by a vehicle manufacturer. As Jeep says, the Unlimited Rubicon is where "extreme out-of-the-box off-roader meet ultimate 4x4 versatility."

What?! I bet he drives a Hummer when no one's watching cuz that was a line straight out of a Hummer ad. However, the article makes NO mention of the Rubicon EVER looking good on Wilshire Blvd, like it does when describing the H2 SUT. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Look out Hells Gate!.. Hummer is about to pay a visit! (3 weeks and counting)

Truck Trend also had these things to say about the H2 SUT:

"Will the H2 SUT halt the plummeting sales free-fall Hummer's been in of late? We doubt it, but the H2 might be an effictive air brake until a meaningful parachute, called the H3(an even smaller sibling), goes on sale later this year. Until then, the H2 SUT (as in sport/utility truck) offers an interesting twist on the now familiar H2."

"We were impressed with how easily the SUT's basic four-seat-plus-a-mini-bed can be reconfigured into two-seat-plus-four-by-six-foot box (rear glass that electrically retracts into the fold-down midgate greatly simplifies things). But regardless of the configuration, it was clambering up some of the steepest dirt goat trails and, yes, parading down Wilshire Boulevard in Beverly Hills, where the Hummer H2 earned its most admiring glances.

They gave the interior a 2 star rating. Design was 3 stars, performance 3 stars and value 2 stars. Engineering was 5 stars.
At the bottom of the picture were these words:" Perhaps this is the H2 GM should've built in the first place."

That was the whole article on the H2. They certainly didn't have anything "yummy" to say about it did they?

DRTYFN
03-21-2005, 09:35 PM
Can you say "payola"? I wonder what Jeep gave the writer? So many of the writers take "gifts" to write nice reviews.

timgco
03-21-2005, 11:57 PM
H2 Rocks: Hell's Gate is closed and has been for a while. We will see it for sure and go walk it. but it is closed unless "specially" opened for certain groups. After walking this, even with permission to run it, ther is no way in hell any stock H2 will make this. you would have to be locked in front, and be a very experienced off roader. If you screw up on this, your truck is done! If anyone cares to call the ranger in Moab to see if they would open it for the group, I would love to see an H2 make it. I'm not sure who to call there, but they open it for EJS every year for a limited time.
Keep in mind, for those who do want to run this, you have to get out of the trail if you wreck and more importantly- home.

It is really the most diifcult part in Moab that i have seen. Scares the hell out of me. you can barley walk it. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif CAN'T WAIT!

ROX
03-23-2005, 03:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
H2 Rocks: Hell's Gate is closed and has been for a while. We will see it for sure and go walk it. but it is closed unless "specially" opened for certain groups. After walking this, even with permission to run it, ther is no way in hell any stock H2 will make this. you would have to be locked in front, and be a very experienced off roader. If you screw up on this, your truck is done! If anyone cares to call the ranger in Moab to see if they would open it for the group, I would love to see an H2 make it. I'm not sure who to call there, but they open it for EJS every year for a limited time.
Keep in mind, for those who do want to run this, you have to get out of the trail if you wreck and more importantly- home.

It is really the most diifcult part in Moab that i have seen. Scares the hell out of me. you can barley walk it. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif CAN'T WAIT! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I didn't realize it was closed. It would be fun to see though. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
The article does mention that the Jeep comes with Dana 44 axels front and rear, both of which have 4.11:1 gears and air actuated Tru Lok locking differentials.

The same issue has the H1 Alpha listed at $108,000 for the open top and $119,000 for the wagon. Geez, our dealership wanted $146,000,000 for the black one on their lot.
They gave the H1 a performance badge.