View Full Version : Dealers taking orders on 2010 H2s
HummerMann
12-04-2009, 09:28 PM
Just returned from my semi-annual jaunt through Manhattan, NY in the Hummer. Have to admit that even to transfixed New Yorkers the Hummer still brings its share of attention. Not one bad gesture or anything of that nature this trip.
On the way home I stopped by my Hummer dealer and they are taking orders on 2010 H2s promising a first week of February delivery. There are four colors in 2010: white, black, silver pearl and another color only available later in the summer. The interior will be identical to 2009. The BF Goodrich mud and snow tires will return in 2010 except in the limited edition models and horsepower remains the same with torque increased 20 ft lbs. A loaded 2010 SUT stickers at $76,000 with nav, the lux and air suspension. They already had deposits on five new H2s.
The owner of the dealership said the current problem with the Tengzhong contract is the desire to move ALL Hummer manufacturing to China by 2012, to include the H2, H3 and Hx, and has been told the deal is within days of being completed and everything signed and all the "i"s dotted.
hi when its moved to china i hope the quality is not like most items coming from china.
Viet Nam Vette
12-05-2009, 05:39 AM
Read The second line from the Bottom.. GM does not own HUMMER H2 only the name HUMMER....It is owned by AM General..The H2 Is built Next to the HUm-Vee Plant... Don't think AM General will give it up.
http://www.amgeneral.com/vehicles/hummer/
HummerJim
12-05-2009, 02:55 PM
I dropped by Lynch yesterday on my way into St. Louis from the Ozarks to pick up some new wiper blades. They sold their last H1 and it was strange to see the entire lot without an H1 sitting around, except for three in the service bays. They also have orders for several new H2s and they said AMG should start cranking them out in January. I think that fourth color to be available at a later date is sunburst orange. Another Orange Crush, Mark :)?? First time I've seen their gun and rifle collection - it's quite impressive.
Steve and Mike back in the service department, who between them comprise an encyclopedia of knowledge on Hummers said I should use my air suspension and hit the button and lift it up every now and then to keep everything supple & working. They've found from years of experience the more you use it the less problems you have with the bags and sensors. It seems like that light blinks forever though raising the rear end up.
porschett
12-05-2009, 03:35 PM
If this is true, it's GREAT news! My lease expires at the end of this month and I've been wondering what to do. I spoke with Sewell's Hummer last week and they told me they're not expecting any 2010s before June, but it was a salesman.
Hummer Guy
12-05-2009, 04:27 PM
Read The second line from the Bottom.. GM does not own HUMMER H2 only the name HUMMER....It is owned by AM General..The H2 Is built Next to the HUm-Vee Plant... Don't think AM General will give it up.
http://www.amgeneral.com/vehicles/hummer/
H2 is GM designed and owned -- they outsource production to AM General. The H2 will be going with the sale to Tengzhong. Production will continue to be outsourced to AM general until GM's original contract is up w/ them.
I'd be hesitant to believe anything that a dealer told me - since they're largely out of the loop. GM shares info with them about when/why production is delayed, not where the new company wants to put it in 4 years.
Hummer Guy
12-05-2009, 04:32 PM
On the way home I stopped by my Hummer dealer and they are taking orders on 2010 H2s promising a first week of February delivery. There are four colors in 2010: white, black, silver pearl and another color only available later in the summer. The interior will be identical to 2009. The BF Goodrich mud and snow tires will return in 2010 except in the limited edition models and horsepower remains the same with torque increased 20 ft lbs.
Here are the projected colors for the 2010 models:
2010 HUMMER H2 and SUT:
Silver Ice Metallic (previously on limited editions)
Black
Birch White
Storm Metallic (replaces Graystone)
Promising first week of February delivery?? Who wants to put money on this? :D Pretty ballsy of a dealer to say that to a customer throwing down cash.
Viet Nam Vette
12-05-2009, 06:40 PM
H2 is GM designed and owned -- they outsource production to AM General. The H2 will be going with the sale to Tengzhong. Production will continue to be outsourced to AM general until GM's original contract is up w/ them.
I'd be hesitant to believe anything that a dealer told me - since they're largely out of the loop. GM shares info with them about when/why production is delayed, not where the new company wants to put it in 4 years.
I stand corrected.... One would hope that the Chinese would keep the H2 Plant (AM General) here but I guess it's all about Labor cost and health Insurance...And of course Money.:lame:
Hummer Guy
12-05-2009, 08:59 PM
I stand corrected.... One would hope that the Chinese would keep the H2 Plant (AM General) here but I guess it's all about Labor cost and health Insurance...And of course Money.:lame:
Honestly, I can't think of a worse PR move to move production out of the U.S., which is why I think the rumor is bogus.
But international, non-US versions of the H4? It wouldn't surprise me a bit if they produced those in China.
Viet Nam Vette
12-05-2009, 09:28 PM
Honestly, I can't think of a worse PR move to move production out of the U.S., which is why I think the rumor is bogus.
But international, non-US versions of the H4? It wouldn't surprise me a bit if they produced those in China.
Totally Agree...Leave the plant here...Keep Americans employed...And Buy the GM Drive Train Parts from GM as they are now. This will support GM and the Drive line Parts Plants and employees. Since AM General Is contracted by GM why can't the Chinese do the same? The H2 is a one of a kind chassis and Body design... It still sells... Leave it The "F" Alone.
If They want to design their own Motor or Tranny Fine... But leave the construction to AM General here in the USA.
HummerMann
12-05-2009, 11:26 PM
I agree, I don't want to see American jobs lost. I know the H3 has been produced in Joburg and in Russia for several years under license. I think the H2 has been produced in Russia under license for a few years too.
Viet Nam Vette
12-06-2009, 03:46 AM
I agree, I don't want to see American jobs lost. I know the H3 has been produced in Joburg and in Russia for several years under license. I think the H2 has been produced in Russia under license for a few years too.
Yeah..I think they are also producing them in South Africa. Didn't they open a plant for the H3 there a few years back?
HummerJim
12-06-2009, 02:01 PM
The H3 was made in South Africa, but they have closed that plant and made all H3 manufacturing centralized in Shreveport, LA. I know H3s were made in Russia for non-export only, and several H1s were made in China by Dongfeng under a limited license three years ago (interestingly a few had Tengzhong diesel engines), but I don't think H2s were ever made anywhere else except for Mishawaka. The Mishawaka plant is probably one of the most modern and high tech vehicle assembly plants in the United States.
Hummer Guy
12-06-2009, 06:02 PM
The H3 was made in South Africa, but they have closed that plant and made all H3 manufacturing centralized in Shreveport, LA. I know H3s were made in Russia for non-export only, and several H1s were made in China by Dongfeng under a limited license three years ago (interestingly a few had Tengzhong diesel engines), but I don't think H2s were ever made anywhere else except for Mishawaka. The Mishawaka plant is probably one of the most modern and high tech vehicle assembly plants in the United States.
Russian plant was H2 only, and you're correct about the South Africa plant -- that's where all global H3s were made (outside North America). As for Dongfeng, that was a knock-off -- not licensed by AM General. AMG is not big on sharing their technology/production rights with anyone - since they export to countries all over the world.
Mishawaka is where all North American H2s are made.
timgco
12-06-2009, 11:13 PM
Russian plant was H2 only, and you're correct about the South Africa plant -- that's where all global H3s were made (outside North America). As for Dongfeng, that was a knock-off -- not licensed by AM General. AMG is not big on sharing their technology/production rights with anyone - since they export to countries all over the world.
Mishawaka is where all North American H2s are made.
I learn something new every day! thanks.
hi i didn't know about the clone H1 till now. Then i did a sreach, sorry about going off topic abit. I am shocked gm general agreed to this? http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee138/tracy588/1152783717_67742.jpg
chisox05
12-07-2009, 09:35 PM
Will the 2010 Hummers get the USB port for the stereos as the 2010 gm trucks got.
Hummer Guy
12-08-2009, 12:35 AM
I wouldn't expect to see any updates on the 2010s - there was no design going on for most of the year while GM was trying to get rid of HUMMER.
Hummer Guy
12-08-2009, 12:37 AM
hi i don't know about the clone H1 till now. Then i did a sreach, sorry about going off topic abit. I am shocked gm general agreed to this?
They didn't agree to it, it was a knockoff. Also, AM General makes the Humvee and originated the HUMMER brand. GM now owns the HUMMER brand and the civilian models. No such thing as GM General, but I admit, the whole thing is a little hard to keep track of.
Hi Hummer Guy, thanks for clearing that up for me. I did find it hard to understand AM General would let someone clone their H1.
pteam
12-08-2009, 05:20 AM
Did they sue the company who made the knock off?
Hummer Guy
12-08-2009, 06:02 PM
Did they sue the company who made the knock off?
Not to my knowledge. Kinda hard for a U.S. company to go after a Chinese company unless they were importing them to the U.S...You can get a knockoff of pretty much anything in China.
Not to my knowledge. Kinda hard for a U.S. company to go after a Chinese company unless they were importing them to the U.S...You can get a knockoff of pretty much anything in China.
hi your right about that, but you get what you pay for buy USA made items.
pohlease
12-09-2009, 01:00 AM
since we are talking about knock off hummers here is the vamtac from Spain :)
http://urovesa.com/img/VAMTAC_LIASION_1.JPG
http://i89.servimg.com/u/f89/11/29/63/11/vamtac10.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/i/vamtac11.jpg/
http://urovesa.com/img/VAMTAC_civil_negro_(1)_2.JPG
http://apunta.blogsome.com/images/VAMTAC_civil_negro.JPG
Greek Hummer:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Greek-hummer.jpg
Russian:
http://englishrussia.com/images/russian_hummer/8.jpg
holy chit how many are out their?
s_c5519
12-09-2009, 06:18 PM
I'm a bit leary on that dealer.. For starters no one on this forum has heard of any 2010 H2's going into production, although we do know they did start on the 2010 H3. So who knew enough to go into that dealer and put money down already, and also how did he already take 5 orders if they will not be that rare anymore and they had a hell of a time selling the '09s?... I don't know..., just thinking out loud...
pteam
12-09-2009, 11:22 PM
I'm a bit leary on that dealer.. For starters no one on this forum has heard of any 2010 H2's going into production, although we do know they did start on the 2010 H3. So who knew enough to go into that dealer and put money down already, and also how did he already take 5 orders if they will not be that rare anymore and they had a hell of a time selling the '09s?... I don't know..., just thinking out loud...
It would have to be the dealers suggesting for customers to put a deposit down on a 2010
Hi i think i would wait and see if they are making them for sure before i put my cash out for a down payment.
HummerMann
12-10-2009, 02:51 PM
How about this Abu Dhabi knockoff with the big Corvette motor I noticed from Hummer Guy on his site. I've always said there is a need for H1 and H2 type vehicles and if Hummer doesn't fill it someone else will.
http://www.hummerguy.net/
porschett
12-11-2009, 01:50 AM
Let's get back to the original post. Start a new thread on Hummer knock-offs.
I just confirmed with AM General, production of the H2 will begin in early January, first delivery to the dealers early February! Production line is to begin on January 04, 2010. Only the 4 colors listed will be initially made.
I ordered my today, only hope it's in by my Birthday, the 5th !!!!!!
Devis1957
12-11-2009, 09:51 AM
When are you going to get that DB9?
Hummer Guy
12-11-2009, 09:28 PM
I just confirmed with AM General, production of the H2 will begin in early January, first delivery to the dealers early February! Production line is to begin on January 04, 2010. Only the 4 colors listed will be initially made.
You should probably check your sources. This info is not accurate.
dallas007
12-11-2009, 10:24 PM
It will be good to read at some point who is going to provide the warranty for the vehicle, GM, Hummer or China. Also need to know after 2012 if GM will continue to sell China the "guts" or not. If not, will China build their own engine and transmission etc. Where will one go to get that serviced? After 2012 if they go to China who will service the GM built Hummer?
I think there is a huge amount of information that Hummer, China and GM will have to provide to the public before folks spend 60-70 grand on a new H2. Way too many unknowns at this stage of the game. I sure hope is all works out and Hummer comes back stronger and better than ever!!
Hummer Guy
12-11-2009, 11:14 PM
It will be good to read at some point who is going to provide the warranty for the vehicle, GM, Hummer or China. Also need to know after 2012 if GM will continue to sell China the "guts" or not. If not, will China build their own engine and transmission etc. Where will one go to get that serviced? After 2012 if they go to China who will service the GM built Hummer?
I think there is a huge amount of information that Hummer, China and GM will have to provide to the public before folks spend 60-70 grand on a new H2. Way too many unknowns at this stage of the game. I sure hope is all works out and Hummer comes back stronger and better than ever!!
Warranty will be provided by HUMMER, which will become its own entity w/ the financial backing of a Chinese company. Instead of answering to GM's board of directors and the U.S. government, HUMMER will answer to itself.
HUMMER dealers will be where warranty work is completed. Its possible that HUMMER may contract other service centers in areas that HUMMER dealers have closed - but that probably won't be for some time.
HUMMER will undoubtedly source many parts from GM in the near-term, but that connection will ultimately be phased out when new models come to the market. GM doesn't produce the products themselves, so it wouldn't make sense to pay them to be the middle man.
s_c5519
12-11-2009, 11:18 PM
You should probably check your sources. This info is not accurate.
Brian, what part are you referring to as inacuurate, the production time, delivery, colors, or all of the above? Do you think they are even making the 2010 H2 model?
Hummer Guy
12-12-2009, 12:04 AM
Brian, what part are you referring to as inaccurate, the production time, delivery, colors, or all of the above? Do you think they are even making the 2010 H2 model?
Namely production time. Right now the earliest production could be up and running would be around March, and hitting dealers a few weeks after that.
They'll make H2 models again for sure -- but I just don't see how it would be good to release 2010 models when everyone else will have 2011 models out a few months after HUMMER has its first 2010 models out.
HUMMER's official word on H2 production is a planned ramp-up during the "First half of 2010"....
Here are the 2010 colors (http://www.hummerguy.net/hummer-news/new-colors-added-to-2010-hummer-lineup).
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