GM Said to Not Win Chinese Approval for Hummer Sale (Update2)

[HummerJim]

By Katie Merx
Feb. 23 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Co. failed to win approval from Chinese regulators to sell its Hummer brand to Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Co., said two people briefed on the deal.
A government agency indicated that it won?t provide approval for Chengdu, China-based Tengzhong to purchase the Hummer line of sport-utility vehicles from GM in China, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the decision hasn?t been made public.
The deal may be completed offshore, the people said. Regulators said they won?t block a transaction closed elsewhere, one person said. Suolang Duoji, Tengzhong?s investment partner in pursuing Hummer, has holdings that include 38 percent of Hong Kong-based Lumena Resources Corp., according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Lumena is incorporated in the Cayman Islands.
?The key element here is that both parties want to do the deal,? said Rebecca Lindland, an analyst with IHS Global Insight in Lexington, Massachusetts. ?None of these deals to sell car brands are simple. If they still want to do it, it?s still possible it will happen.?
Acquiring Hummer would propel Tengzhong, a closely held maker with products including bridge parts, into the passenger- vehicle industry. The company has said it wants to expand Hummer into China and other expanding markets outside the U.S., which accounted for about two-thirds of the brand?s sales under GM.
Hummer CEO James Taylor and Christina Stenson, a spokeswoman for Tengzhong in New York, each declined to comment. Baodong Wang, a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in Washington, D.C., didn?t have an immediate comment.
To build and sell in China, Tengzhong would still need approval from Chinese regulatory and licensing agencies, according to the people.
Hummer is among four brands, along with Pontiac, Saab and Saturn, that Detroit-based GM is unloading to focus on Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac in the U.S. after exiting bankruptcy on July 10.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-23/gm-said-to-not-win-chinese-approval-for-hummer-sale-update1-.html

[HummerMann]

This is the saga that never ends. I still want to see the Hummer brand continue, but if Tengzhong can't do it, I put my vote in for the owner of AM General. You know by now the price has gone way down, so Hummer could be purchased very reasonably, and at AM General they have a good track record for knowing how to build quality vehicles. As a bussinessman, it's obvious that Tengzhong has already invested millions in this, and wants to manufacture the Hummer, so I'm not totally sure they'll go down without a fight.

[Viet Nam Vette]

This is the saga that never ends. I still want to see the Hummer brand continue, but if Tengzhong can't do it, I put my vote in for the owner of AM General. You know by now the price has gone way down, so Hummer could be purchased very reasonably, and at AM General they have a good track record for knowing how to build quality vehicles. As a bussinessman, it's obvious that Tengzhong has already invested millions in this, and wants to manufacture the Hummer, so I'm not totally sure they'll go down without a fight.


The deal may be completed offshore, the people said. Regulators said they won’t block a transaction closed elsewhere, one person said. Suolang Duoji, Tengzhong’s investment partner in pursuing Hummer, has holdings that include 38 percent of Hong Kong-based Lumena Resources Corp., according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Lumena is incorporated in the Cayman Islands.




“The key element here is that both parties want to do the deal,”



It could still happen.... Or as you say ..AM General Could step up to the palte. I heard they are on their last round of orders for the "Humvee" (2620 Units") .. The Milatary has a new rig they want built. Who knows if AM General will get that contract.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ap-humvee-production-indiana-feb12,0,5047776.story

[wingn69]

I would have to agree I would love to see AMG get Hummer back and now that the Army is going to phase out the Hummer for the Army main truck. it would be a good time i think for them to jump in and bring Hummer Home. :clapping:

[dvl57]

From GM's website:

http://media.gm.com/content/media/us/en/news/news_detail.brand_gm.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2010/Feb/0224_hummer


I guess there won't be a 2010 H2 model....or any other Hummers.

I wonder if the dealers will be closing their doors soon.

Its kind of hard to imagine no more Hummers.

[sleeve]

BREAKING: GM announces Hummer sale cannot be concluded, brand to be wound down
by Chris Paukert (RSS feed) on Feb 24th 2010 at 3:16PM



Although it has been evident for some time that General Motors' sale of its Hummer brand to Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machines Co., Ltd., we didn't expect for word to come down today that the negotiations are dead and the brand will be wound down. Unfortunately, judging by a press release just issued by GM, that's exactly what will be happening. According to John Smith, GM's vice president of corporate planning and alliances,

"One year ago, General Motors announced that we were going to divest Hummer, as part of focusing our efforts on Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac going forward. We have since considered a number of possibilities for Hummer along the way, and we are disappointed that the deal with Tengzhong could not be completed."

As we learned from the Saab sale saga, GM announcing that the brand will be wound down does not completely extinguish hope for another buyer to slip in in the 11th hour, but it does seem highly improbable that a new party will pick up where the negotiations with China's Tengzhong left off.

In the statement available after the jump, GM does not specify what killed the planned sale of the brand, but rumors in recent months suggested that the Chinese government was not keen to sign off on the deal. At the moment, it is unclear what will happen to Hummer's H2 and H3/H3T models, but it is likely that the tooling and manufacturing rights will be sold off to other companies. It is also unclear how many employees will be out of work as a result of the closure.

As with the wind-down of its Saturn and Pontiac brands, GM has pledged to honor Hummer warranties and continue to supply service and parts

[HumminNBoatin']

Sad news, very sad. Another American company down the tubes......

[DRTYFN]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/24/AR2010022401259.html

[timgco]

ughhhhh!!!

....glad I have one now, because they're only going to get harder to find now...in good shape that is.

Well, on to the next brand to get cut!

Now, how many dealers will be left in 6 months. Your local GM dealer will be diong the warranty work soon. ..at least that's what I expect.

[pdxrealtor]

I missed this post before I started another..

But here is the link from the wsj

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100224-716918.html?mod=WSJ_Deals_LEFTLatestHeadlines

I just heard it on FOX report.

[DRTYFN]

I missed this post before I started another..

But here is the link from the wsj

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100224-716918.html?mod=WSJ_Deals_LEFTLatestHeadlines

I just heard it on FOX report.

Subscriber only. :raar:

[StockStar]

ughhhhh!!!

....glad I have one now, because they're only going to get harder to find now...in good shape that is.

Well, on to the next brand to get cut!

Now, how many dealers will be left in 6 months. Your local GM dealer will be diong the warranty work soon. ..at least that's what I expect.

Harder to find? ummmm. Tons of h2 for sale under 30K. Do you think this will drive down the resale and the price of existing 2005-2007 h2's?

[Intercooled]

Harder to find? ummmm. Tons of h2 for sale under 30K. Do you think this will drive down the resale and the price of existing 2005-2007 h2's?
Drive down??!! Prices will slowly climb. No more will be made, they will slowly become collectible.

[Intercooled]

This is sad, but I never really understood dealing with the Chinese anyhow, especially when they started talking about getting regulatory approval. Didnt they remember that the Chicoms dont have a free market society and that the way the green movement is working its way into every thing? I'm sad Hummer wont continue (for now) but once again disgusted with GM. They cant cant get anything right. I wonder of being government owned had anything to do with this out come, hmmmm.

[Viet Nam Vette]

I think some one will step up and go for HUMMER... Who else makes a rig like HUMMER.. Sure ther are the a few Multi 100K SUV's out there but none like the HUMMER H2 for the price.

Sometimes I wonder if the guys in the GM Board room are smoken Crack.
GM still has to sell off the tooling to some one for the H3... Don't know if AMG owns the tooling for the H2 or not but some one will buy it and continue to make spares.

Or maybe the off shore private deal will go down. I hope so... Hate to see the Beast Go.:(

[HummerJim]

It's a sad day around here and I was tempted to put some black bunting over the front door and wear my black arm band. I think we all thought there was a good chance of this happening, but just hoped someone would come to the rescue. Most of us shared an experience people will never have again, driving a new Hummer out of the showroom. I plan on keeping mine a LONG TIME. One thing for sure, you're going to see less and less of them on the streets through attrition.
This reminds me of when Packard went down the tubes. My dad was a big Packard fan and when they closed their doors he was visibly depressed for a while. If you're into cars and vehicles, it's like the passing of a good friend.

[StockStar]

Drive down??!! Prices will slowly climb. No more will be made, they will slowly become collectible.

Yes.. drive down.I just don’t see this GM brand being any kinda collectible or one that will be highly sought after. They want them off the lots. The dealer here has had the same 8 h2's for sale for the last 8-10 months. I've seen an 07 Lux with 24,000miles price cut from $31,000 to $27500 in the last two weeks at the dealer here. I've also see an 05 lux with 50k sell for 23k. Only time will tell, but I hope some one picks them up. Such a fine vehicle

[HummerMann]

It's a sad day for Hummer! The environmentalists and tree huggers got it in their sights and then gas prices went up. I'm just glad I've gotten to own two H2s, both new from the dealer and the best vehicles I've ever owned.

[Viet Nam Vette]

It's a sad day for Hummer! The environmentalists and tree huggers got it in their sights and then gas prices went up. I'm just glad I've gotten to own two H2s, both new from the dealer and the best vehicles I've ever owned.

I say this is AMERICA.. Drive what you want...I too am a little sad that no one has stepped up yet to do something with HUMMER ....but I haven't given up yet.

Now If I hit the Power Ball Lottery..HUMMER Is Back in Business. I agree...It is one of the best rides I've owned...

:perfect10s:

[TXSUT]

Do y'all honestly believe that there's enough of a US market left to support the Hummer line, enough to make it a profitable business segment for a company? Or is all the "save Hummer" stuff just a reflection of your love for the Hummer brand?

I know those questions may seem a little sarcastic, but it's not meant that way. I am just sincerely curious.

Thanks,

Pete

[Intercooled]

Do y'all honestly believe that there's enough of a US market left to support the Hummer line, enough to make it a profitable business segment for a company? Or is all the "save Hummer" stuff just a reflection of your love for the Hummer brand?

I know those questions may seem a little sarcastic, but it's not meant that way. I am just sincerely curious.

Thanks,

Pete

I believe that the H2 is dead. Its too big and not green enough. If the H3 & newer models like the Hx could get 25+ miles per gallon Hummer would sell again. But what the hell do i know!

[nahanee20]

Have to say I'm kind of glad the deal didn't go through. I don't want to be driving a chinese hummer.

[mikejr]

I'm glad I got to experience the thrill of driving one used H2 and two new H2's off the dealer lot. I'll be keeping mine for as long as the wheels stay on it. Might have to get a summer car so to keep some miles of the beasty.

I have mixed emotions about the deal not going through. Just something not right with Hummer being owned off shore.

[Viet Nam Vette]

Do y'all honestly believe that there's enough of a US market left to support the Hummer line, enough to make it a profitable business segment for a company? Or is all the "save Hummer" stuff just a reflection of your love for the Hummer brand?

I know those questions may seem a little sarcastic, but it's not meant that way. I am just sincerely curious.

Thanks,

Pete

Probaly not for a company the size of GM ..but at the selling price and the demand for the rig over seas and still here in the US ...it's a bargain.

How many Tesla Electric cars @ XX $100K dollars will sell here? Or any USA Hi performance supercars like the "Saleen" If I spelled that right ..or Corvette ZR-1 at $130K list will sell .

Or the Frieghtliner P4xl @ $250K per copy. Were talking about buying a brand for only 150 Mill ..Rights and Tooling. Why not? Build them on a limited basis thru select dealers. They were making the H3 in Africa..Their is a demand for them but the USA Market went JAP... and started freking out over gas prices.

But it's ok to own a pick up truck and get 13 mph but not a HUMMER.

They are in demand over seas at very high prices just like AMERICAN Muscle Cars are.

And yes it is a Love of the HUMMER Brand.
Name one rig Built kike the H2..... There are none.... "Like Nothing Else"

:beerchug:

[HummerJim]

It's been said before, and we all know it to be true, that the Hummer is not only a vehicle it's a lifestyle. A lot of Hummer's problems have come through misinformation on the Internet. I read some of the comments in the msn article and they were so crazy I figured they were written by 12 year olds. Some of the comments were good, but when it comes to Hummers, you either love them or hate them, very little in between!
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Dispatch/market-dispatches.aspx?post=1655878&_blg=1,1655878

[vandy0090]

well i hope someone pickes them up... in a perfact world am gen would. but either way im not sellin mine and ill prob be lookin for an 08 sut. F the enviro hippy tree huggers. ill take my gas hogs:twak: