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pdxrealtor
12-12-2012, 11:54 PM
So as most of you know I lowered the H2 just a bit, and I don't like it. It rides like stock, that's not the issue. I just see other H2's drive by at OEM height and feel they look better.

If I end up keeping the truck I'll be swapping tires and going up.

What are the stock gears?

What is the best bang when upping to 37s?

What are the lift options? Don't even want 4" of lift, very minor, maybe even a level type kit.

Green keys and OEM springs? Other options?

Big.Z.hummin
12-13-2012, 12:01 AM
So as most of you know I lowered the H2 just a bit, and I don't like it.
:giggling:

pdxrealtor
12-13-2012, 12:02 AM
:giggling:


:fdance:

guruerror
12-13-2012, 03:53 AM
So as most of you know I lowered the H2 just a bit, and I don't like it. It rides like stock, that's not the issue. I just see other H2's drive by at OEM height and feel they look better.

If I end up keeping the truck I'll be swapping tires and going up.

What are the stock gears?

What is the best bang when upping to 37s?

What are the lift options? Don't even want 4" of lift, very minor, maybe even a level type kit.

Green keys and OEM springs? Other options?
Stock gears: 4.10

Best bang for your buck on tires, IMO, BFG ATs. I put 76,000 miles on mine and still had prolly 10,000 miles of street tread left.

Cranking the torsion bars alone would be the cheap way to level ($0), but, IMO, it makes it ride like sh!t. I would recommend the Cognito UCA leveling kit. If you want more than that, crank the torsion bars a tad and put some spring spacers in the rear. That plus the 37s will put you slightly higher than stock...and give you a more aggressive stance.

You'll prolly want new gears and a tune after stepping up to 37s.

pdxrealtor
12-13-2012, 04:09 AM
Stock gears: 4.10

Best bang for your buck on tires, IMO, BFG ATs. I put 76,000 miles on mine and still had prolly 10,000 miles of street tread left.

Cranking the torsion bars alone would be the cheap way to level ($0), but, IMO, it makes it ride like sh!t. I would recommend the Cognito UCA leveling kit. If you want more than that, crank the torsion bars a tad and put some spring spacers in the rear. That plus the 37s will put you slightly higher than stock...and give you a more aggressive stance.

You'll prolly want new gears and a tune after stepping up to 37s.


Thanks for the info.

Because I have work to do, I decided to start researching. :p

Read a lot of what you've said about cranking OEM keys. Don't want that.

I'll look at the Cognito UCA Leveling kit again. Maybe I missed something but I didn't think that included anything but shock extenders and the UCA, or UCA and front Billsteins. I didn't see where you actually get any lift.

I think I'm screwed on tires, with my 20" x 8.5" rims with an offset of 10.

BFG quit making 37/20 all terrains.

Nitto has a 37x14.11x20 in their A/T , but even if I could get the 14" wide tire on the 8.5" rim I'm pretty sure I'd have rubbing issues......from what I've been reading.

Don't want a M/T.

If I can get tires figured out the next step would be raising it a bit, then shocks, then Cognito UCA, then gears. I have the tune and access to DIABLEW.

Green keys, spring spacers, Billsteins.

Thoughts/ideas ??

guruerror
12-13-2012, 04:25 AM
You're right, the Cognito kit corrects the ride after installing keys and cranking the bars. I forgot that I already had the Truxxx keys before I got the Cognito kit. It also improves the suspensions geometry and gives you more down-travel. Truxxx and the GM Green keys are the same if I remember correctly, so either will work fine.

I think your on the right track: keys, Cognito UCA kit w/Bilsteins, and rear spring spacers. That will get you leveled, lifted and ready for 37s without sacrificing ride quality.

pdxrealtor
12-13-2012, 04:27 AM
You're right, the Cognito kit corrects the ride after installing keys and cranking the bars. I forgot that I already had the Truxxx keys before I got the Cognito kit. It also improves the suspensions geometry and gives you more down-travel. Truxxx and the GM Green keys are the same if I remember correctly, so either will work fine.

I think your on the right track: keys, Cognito UCA kit w/Bilsteins, and rear spring spacers. That will get you leveled, lifted and ready for 37s without sacrificing ride quality.


Ok... so the Cognito UCA kit comes with just the front shocks. I'm not going crazy.

What did you do for rear shocks? Got any pics you can throw up?

guruerror
12-13-2012, 04:40 AM
No pics of that mod...but I put Bilsteins in the rear too. The ride is great on and off road.

pdxrealtor
12-13-2012, 04:42 AM
No pics of that mod...but I put Bilsteins in the rear too. The ride is great on and off road.


Sounds like you pretty much did what was in this thread, which explains everything anyone would need to know. http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36505&page=2


Cool.

Any suggestions on my wheel situation?

guruerror
12-13-2012, 05:03 AM
Cool.

Any suggestions on my wheel situation?
I'm a pretty big BFG guy, if you don't want MTs and given that they don't make 37x12.5x20 ATs any longer, I'd be looking for new rims.

But, since that's not always an option due to cost, some else might have to chime in with other AT tire recommendations.

One thing to consider though, the bigger the rim, the more expensive the tire. I'll use my BFG MTs as an example:
37x12.5x20 = $600 ea
37x12.5x17 = $404 ea
discounttiredirect.com

So a smaller rim will save you money every time you buy tires...

pdxrealtor
12-13-2012, 05:14 AM
I'm a pretty big BFG guy, if you don't want MTs and given that they don't make 37x12.5x20 ATs any longer, I'd be looking for new rims.

But, since that's not always an option due to cost, some else might have to chime in with other AT tire recommendations.

One thing to consider though, the bigger the rim, the more expensive the tire. I'll use my BFG MTs as an example:
37x12.5x20 = $600 ea
37x12.5x17 = $404 ea
discounttiredirect.com

So a smaller rim will save you money every time you buy tires...

I like the rim, but I might not have a choice.

BFG doesn't make a 37" in A/T period.

Nitto does, but to get down to a 12.50 I'd have to downsize rims.

Some things to think about.