H2 2007 this this true

[Albie]

2007
Hummer H2 - A diesel-powered Alpha performance model could arrive in 2007.
Hummer H3 - The H3 is scheduled to get an Alpha model in 2007. It will be powered by either a Turbocharged I-5, V6, V8 or diesel engine.

[timgco]

Originally posted by PhilD:
Possible, but the H2 switches to the new GMT900 platform in '08, so I don't see why they would bring out an H2 diesel on the current platform (GMT800), unless they are going to go to the 900 a year early or maybe just to help generate some extra income, the diesel would be popular. It is not unheard of for manufacturers to bring out "special" editions before a model change.

I'd fell pretty "special" if I had a Duramax H2. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[VTSTOMPER]

It will happen in 2007...late 2007, and it will be a 2008 new model! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[DRTYFN]

Originally posted by Albie:
2007
Hummer H2 - A diesel-powered Alpha performance model could arrive in 2007.
Hummer H3 - The H3 is scheduled to get an Alpha model in 2007. It will be powered by either a Turbocharged I-5, V6, V8 or diesel engine.

Source or die!!!http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[DRTYFN]

I bet you got it from here:
http://motortrend.com/future/spied/112_2007fvf/index5.html

Not exactly rock solid credibility.

[Albie]

Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Albie:
2007
Hummer H2 - A diesel-powered Alpha performance model could arrive in 2007.
Hummer H3 - The H3 is scheduled to get an Alpha model in 2007. It will be powered by either a Turbocharged I-5, V6, V8 or diesel engine.

Source or die!!!http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

not sure. I googled it.....it was like on page 3 or 4

[DRTYFN]

Google sucks.

Try http://www.vivisimo.com MUCH BETTER. Results are returned in folders so you don't have to look at eleventeenzillion random scattered items.

[J]

General Motors has big plans for the smallest truck in its Hummer lineup.

GM intends to offer V-8 and diesel versions of the mid-sized H3 SUV.

Two sources inside GM say the automaker is in the early stages of preparing to offer an H3 with a 5.3-liter V-8.

"It's another couple of years out," said one source at GM, who asked to not be named.

Hummer will add a diesel engine to the H3 later, the source said.

The SUV comes with GM's Vortec 3500 3.5-liter inline five-cylinder engine, which delivers 220 hp. The automaker also will build a special-edition H2.

At the Dealer Business Conference in Las Vegas last week, GM executives told Hummer dealers that 150 special editions of the full-sized H2 will be built in the first quarter of next year. Those vehicles will offer more "bling" factor than the regular H2s, said Jacques Moore, of Moore Cadillac-Hummer-Saab-Subaru in Richmond, Va.


The special editions will feature at least two new colors: Pacific Blue and Fusion Orange, Moore said.

He said Hummer also vowed to remedy blind spots in the H2 by installing rear-view cameras in the special-edition models.

Source: Auto Week

[VTSTOMPER]

Those H2's are already out!

[DennisAJC]

Originally posted by Albie:
2007
Hummer H2 - A diesel-powered Alpha performance model could arrive in 2007.
Hummer H3 - The H3 is scheduled to get an Alpha model in 2007. It will be powered by either a Turbocharged I-5, V6, V8 or diesel engine.

SOLD!!!!! Calling dealership owner to put me on the list that does not exist yet. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

ALPHA!!!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[DennisAJC]

LMAO!!!!

Those were the good ole days Alec. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[killian]

I just picked up an 06 H2 for a 24 hour test drive, while I was there I asked the sales manager about an H2 diesel He said that he just came back from "Hummer School" and they told him that an H2 diesel would "never happen".

Don't get me wrong; I rarely believe a word that the sales guys tell me, most of them seem to be entirely out of the loop.

[MovinH2]

Well if it does come out I'll buy one for sure.

[4Skin]

Originally posted by killian:
I just picked up an 06 H2 for a 24 hour test drive, while I was there I asked the sales manager about an H2 diesel He said that he just came back from "Hummer School" and they told him that an H2 diesel would "never happen".

Don't get me wrong; I rarely believe a word that the sales guys tell me, most of them seem to be entirely out of the loop.

Now you can go back and bitch slap the pole smoker.

[HUMTECH]

I have heard rumours of A diesel powered H-2, but likely would not be the D-MAX currently used in the trucks, but A new engine in development. Also the truck line will be dropping the 6.0l in exchange for A new 6.2l gas engine(if memory serves me) not sure if the H-2 will see the new engine or continue with the 6.0l. Time will tell.

[CLAYDOG]

Originally posted by killian:
I just picked up an 06 H2 for a 24 hour test drive, while I was there I asked the sales manager about an H2 diesel He said that he just came back from "Hummer School" and they told him that an H2 diesel would "never happen".

Don't get me wrong; I rarely believe a word that the sales guys tell me, most of them seem to be entirely out of the loop.

Never is a strong word to use in the car biz. But if he's talking about the D-max in it's current form he is correct.

[DRTYFN]

Originally posted by CLAYDOG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by killian:
I just picked up an 06 H2 for a 24 hour test drive, while I was there I asked the sales manager about an H2 diesel He said that he just came back from "Hummer School" and they told him that an H2 diesel would "never happen".

Don't get me wrong; I rarely believe a word that the sales guys tell me, most of them seem to be entirely out of the loop.

Never is a strong word to use in the car biz. But if he's talking about the D-max in it's current form he is correct. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It probably would be the upcoming 6.6L 360hp 650lb/ft Duramax.

Humtech, would that 6.2L gasser be the same as the new Escalade engine?

[InfantryWS6]

Maybe it will be this engine

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/060312/autos_gm_europe.html?.v=1


GLOBAL DIESEL OFFENSIVE.

Separately, the trade publication also reported that GM is planning a global diesel offensive starting in 2008 that would include launching new diesel engines in the United States, where the technology has found few fans compared to Europe.

"We are developing right now two highly modern diesel motors that won't just fulfil the Euro-5 emission standards, but (also) the more stringent Bin-5 regulations in the USA," an unidentified GM manager told Automobilwoche.

It plans to introduce a 2.9 liter V6 and a 4.5 liter V8 that will gradually be used in almost all sport utility vehicles, pick-ups and large sedans in all GM brands and all markets.

[RacerX]

I stopped by my dealer recently. He asked if I was ready for a new one and told him I would be on the list as soon as the diesel is available. According to him (for what that's worth) the redesign has been pushed out a few more years. He claimed that the GMT900 platform had been pushed out until 2010. I have been holding out for the 2008 model with hopes of the diesel. Not sure my '03 can make it to 2010.

As for the 2007 models, he thought the changes would be minimal. Some type of exhaust modification was the biggest thing I remember.

Boy I hope this isn't true. Very depressing!!!
Might have to find something different in the interim.

[Boss Hoss]

Sounds like a pretty cool option but my truck does the job just fine like it is. I dont see a need for the dmax unless you tow alot. If it saves gas(diesel) it would take quite some time to cover the saving in gas over the price of the option.....if memory serves me correctly the dmax is around a 6k option on the 2500 hd's between the engine and the allison tranny. Dont get me wrong it would be cool...perhaps i dont like the fact that my truck would automaticly become less cool.

[usetosellhummer]

Putting the D in is not cost effective for Gm so with would have to be the new platform. Am General builds the H2 and that contract has a few more years on it. don't look for any changes in 07

[PARAGON]

this has been discussed many times on here before, no major changes until 2008 model comes out in 2007 and then it won't be on the GMT900

[NoMoGMPG]

Originally posted by RacerX:
I stopped by my dealer recently. He asked if I was ready for a new one and told him I would be on the list as soon as the diesel is available. According to him (for what that's worth) the redesign has been pushed out a few more years. He claimed that the GMT900 platform had been pushed out until 2010. I have been holding out for the 2008 model with hopes of the diesel. Not sure my '03 can make it to 2010.

As for the 2007 models, he thought the changes would be minimal. Some type of exhaust modification was the biggest thing I remember.

Boy I hope this isn't true. Very depressing!!!
Might have to find something different in the interim.

BS.

The GMT900 is already out with the Tahoe/Yukon. Not only that, but GM has sent out a memo to all dealers to put their ENTIRE 2006 vehicle order needs for 6 months in before May 1st. I am pretty sure this is to facilitate the necessary tooling changeovers to the new platform.

[DRTYFN]

Originally posted by NoMoGMPG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RacerX:
I stopped by my dealer recently. He asked if I was ready for a new one and told him I would be on the list as soon as the diesel is available. According to him (for what that's worth) the redesign has been pushed out a few more years. He claimed that the GMT900 platform had been pushed out until 2010. I have been holding out for the 2008 model with hopes of the diesel. Not sure my '03 can make it to 2010.

As for the 2007 models, he thought the changes would be minimal. Some type of exhaust modification was the biggest thing I remember.

Boy I hope this isn't true. Very depressing!!!
Might have to find something different in the interim.

BS.

The GMT900 is already out with the Tahoe/Yukon. Not only that, but GM has sent out a memo to all dealers to put their ENTIRE 2006 vehicle order needs for 6 months in before May 1st. I am pretty sure this is to facilitate the necessary tooling changeovers to the new platform. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They better hurry the F up.

[MarineHawk]

What is the GMT900 patform?
What's better about it?
I can find all kinds of discussions about it being incorporated into the h2 eventually, but what is it?

[CLAYDOG]

Originally posted by MarineHawk:
What is the GMT900 patform?
What's better about it?
I can find all kinds of discussions about it being incorporated into the h2 eventually, but what is it?

A “platform” is a component set that works together. Many people mistakenly think “frame” when using the word platform and they couldn’t be more wrong. As an example a 3500 pick-up and the old 1500 Tahoe don’t share any frame and suspension parts, but are both based on the GMT800 platform. In most cases any more, the electronic system of a given car/truck platform is the single biggest driver of shared components. Look at the electrically controlled components that were changed/improved from the 800 based Tahoe to the 900 based Tahoe and you can pretty well guess what’s going to change when the H2 goes to the 900 platform.

[CLAYDOG]

Originally posted by NoMoGMPG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RacerX:
I stopped by my dealer recently. He asked if I was ready for a new one and told him I would be on the list as soon as the diesel is available. According to him (for what that's worth) the redesign has been pushed out a few more years. He claimed that the GMT900 platform had been pushed out until 2010. I have been holding out for the 2008 model with hopes of the diesel. Not sure my '03 can make it to 2010.

As for the 2007 models, he thought the changes would be minimal. Some type of exhaust modification was the biggest thing I remember.

Boy I hope this isn't true. Very depressing!!!
Might have to find something different in the interim.

BS.

The GMT900 is already out with the Tahoe/Yukon. Not only that, but GM has sent out a memo to all dealers to put their ENTIRE 2006 vehicle order needs for 6 months in before May 1st. I am pretty sure this is to facilitate the necessary tooling changeovers to the new platform. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by CLAYDOG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MarineHawk:
What is the GMT900 patform?
What's better about it?
I can find all kinds of discussions about it being incorporated into the h2 eventually, but what is it?

A “platform” is a component set that works together. Many people mistakenly think “frame” when using the word platform and they couldn’t be more wrong. As an example a 3500 pick-up and the old 1500 Tahoe don’t share any frame and suspension parts, but are both based on the GMT800 platform. In most cases any more, the electronic system of a given car/truck platform is the single biggest driver of shared components. Look at the electrically controlled components that were changed/improved from the 800 based Tahoe to the 900 based Tahoe and you can pretty well guess what’s going to change when the H2 goes to the 900 platform. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As I am completely ignorant of the 900-based Tahoe, is it: Stronger? Lighter? More squirrelly? Bouncier? Prettier?

[NoMoGMPG]

Originally posted by MarineHawk:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CLAYDOG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MarineHawk:
What is the GMT900 patform?
What's better about it?
I can find all kinds of discussions about it being incorporated into the h2 eventually, but what is it?

A “platform” is a component set that works together. Many people mistakenly think “frame” when using the word platform and they couldn’t be more wrong. As an example a 3500 pick-up and the old 1500 Tahoe don’t share any frame and suspension parts, but are both based on the GMT800 platform. In most cases any more, the electronic system of a given car/truck platform is the single biggest driver of shared components. Look at the electrically controlled components that were changed/improved from the 800 based Tahoe to the 900 based Tahoe and you can pretty well guess what’s going to change when the H2 goes to the 900 platform. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As I am completely ignorant of the 900-based Tahoe, is it: Stronger? Lighter? More squirrelly? Bouncier? Prettier? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

From a Tahoe/Yukon standpoint, it looks to me like they (GM) have incorporated more Escalade styling, better lighting, and some economy/performance enhancements.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by NoMoGMPG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RacerX:
I stopped by my dealer recently. He asked if I was ready for a new one and told him I would be on the list as soon as the diesel is available. According to him (for what that's worth) the redesign has been pushed out a few more years. He claimed that the GMT900 platform had been pushed out until 2010. I have been holding out for the 2008 model with hopes of the diesel. Not sure my '03 can make it to 2010.

As for the 2007 models, he thought the changes would be minimal. Some type of exhaust modification was the biggest thing I remember.

Boy I hope this isn't true. Very depressing!!!
Might have to find something different in the interim.

BS.

The GMT900 is already out with the Tahoe/Yukon. Not only that, but GM has sent out a memo to all dealers to put their ENTIRE 2006 vehicle order needs for 6 months in before May 1st. I am pretty sure this is to facilitate the necessary tooling changeovers to the new platform. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I think he was referring to the H2 not being on the GMT900 until later, not that the platform isn't already out in another configuration.

The new Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade has been discussed in pretty good detail here, so you can do a search and find all kinds of information on it.

I had one for a day a while back and posted junk about it here: http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/1726043161/m/4...861021261#4861021261 (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/1726043161/m/4861021261/r/4861021261#4861021261)

[johndjmix1]

I was told 2009.

Keep in mind if you go for the diesel it will proboly add $5,000 - $7,000 to the price. I made up a spreadsheet to see if it is worth it for the milage, and on average it will take you 6-7 YEARS to make up the extra cost in milage savings. Even if you run off-road fuel it will still take you 4 years to make up the cost.

Yea, I would definatly go for it...but for the power not the milage. Man a twin turbo duramax (like the one they put in that suburban on TRUX) would ROCK.

Going up to estas park in a few hours with a friend that just got a new jeep (STOCK!)....this should be fun.

--John

[wes1977]

Could be asking for trouble. All that power will surely break something.

[usetosellhummer]

At one time they told me at Hummer School that it just does not fit so it would have to be an Isuzu motor

[Boss Hoss]

Albie....i was curious to see how your rig did at Moab but i didnt see you in any pictures. I can only imagine this means you didnt make it but if you did and didnt happen to be in any pics how did you make out with the 40s?

[aggiehummer...er]

As it sits right now, the Dmax would put too much weight on the front suspension, which is already almost maxed out on a stock truck.

In 2007, they're taking away the uplevel chrome package and making those items (chrome hood latches, chrome hood handles, chrome fuel door) part of the normal chrome appearance package. They're also changing the tire brand from BF Goodrich to Goodyear, same size. That's it.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by aggiehummer...er:
As it sits right now, the Dmax would put too much weight on the front suspension, which is already almost maxed out on a stock truck. Well, that most assuredly is not it. The front end uses the same components from a 2500 HD pickup that runs the Dmax. Now, considering, the tranny also, the actual sheet metal and longer wheelbase, it would stand to reason that weight is not the reason. Size is the culprit right now. While it can be stuffed in there by an aftermarket company, it's just not sufficient enough for GM to give the go ahead and deal with the warranty headaches that would be associated with it.

2008 model coming out next year, will have 400hp 400lb/ft of torque (approx) and probably an updated interior. Also, stands to reason that the 2009 model won't be on the GMT900 platform if that happens. Maybe in 2009 the 2010 model will be re-done and based on the GMT900.

[f5fstop]

Originally posted by InfantryWS6:
Maybe it will be this engine

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/060312/autos_gm_europe.html?.v=1


GLOBAL DIESEL OFFENSIVE.

Separately, the trade publication also reported that GM is planning a global diesel offensive starting in 2008 that would include launching new diesel engines in the United States, where the technology has found few fans compared to Europe.

"We are developing right now two highly modern diesel motors that won't just fulfil the Euro-5 emission standards, but (also) the more stringent Bin-5 regulations in the USA," an unidentified GM manager told Automobilwoche.

It plans to introduce a 2.9 liter V6 and a 4.5 liter V8 that will gradually be used in almost all sport utility vehicles, pick-ups and large sedans in all GM brands and all markets.

The global H3 is coming. What it will have is...well, I can't say at this time.

[Mr. I - Man]

At one time they told me at Hummer School that it just does not fit so it would have to be an Isuzu motor


The Duramax is made by Isuzu!!!

[Alan06SUT]

Originally posted by MarineHawk:
What is the GMT900 patform?
What's better about it?
I can find all kinds of discussions about it being incorporated into the h2 eventually, but what is it?

The new tahoe is on gmt 900 and ....The front torsion bars have been ditched in favor of suppler coil springs, recirculating ball steering gives way to a more precise (if no more communicative) rack and pinion system, and the ABS-controlled four-wheel disc brakes are upsized.

Also I think it has a wider track and 5 link rear solid axle.

Maybe the new H2 will be coil sprung up front?? I Dont know if that will improve off road or not.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MarineHawk:
What is the GMT900 patform?
What's better about it?
I can find all kinds of discussions about it being incorporated into the h2 eventually, but what is it?

The new tahoe is on gmt 900 and ....The front torsion bars have been ditched in favor of suppler coil springs, recirculating ball steering gives way to a more precise (if no more communicative) rack and pinion system, and the ABS-controlled four-wheel disc brakes are upsized.

Also I think it has a wider track and 5 link rear solid axle.

Maybe the new H2 will be coil sprung up front?? I Dont know if that will improve off road or not. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>It's also a fully boxed frame, new electronics, new engines and transmissions that get much better fuel economy, electric fan engine cooling, remote start, power liftgate, stabilitrak, side and head air bags, optional nav with rearview camera, etc.

Also, with the rack and pinion it will possibly help eliminate much of our steering problems

[CLAYDOG]

Paragon, see my platform post. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Roadstar]

diesel sounds great but what's wrong with gas? What would be so beneficial? I don't think milage is such a big problem??? Am I alone on this one??? diesel is expensive to maintain isn't it???

[CLAYDOG]

On the D-max, weight was part of the issue, but I didn't hear the reasoning, just know that it was brought up and was the last straw. The primary reason for no D-max is that with the short over hangs of the H2, the leading edge of the hood would have to come up close to 4" to fit a radiator with enough cooling capacity for that particular diesel.

[f5fstop]

There is a smaller 8-cylinder D-max engine. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[CLAYDOG]

So I've heard. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[PARAGON]

Claydog, did you ever finish that car? Check your PM

[DennisAJC]

JUUUUUUST DO IT!!!!!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Roadstar:
diesel sounds great but what's wrong with gas? What would be so beneficial? More fuel efficient, much more useable torque, far greater engine life, and it sounds cool.

diesel is expensive to maintain isn't it??? Is it? I've never found that to be the case, especially if you look at the costs involved in runninga diesel for 500k miles compared to running a gas engine for 500k miles.

What is amazing though is how long GM have taken to get a diesel H2 to market. If Jeep put one in the JK four door first, I may just join the dark side http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Diesel JK next year??????? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Diesels are the shiznit. They are simple engines. There is no ignition system, they are more efficient at using fuel, they are not more expensive to maintain, if anything, in the long run, they are cheaper, wider torque band that starts much, much lower in the rpm range.

Plus they run drowned in water as long as you have an intake not ingesting the water...... ie - no electrical ignition components to get wet.

Was messing with a Jeep Liberty diesel this weekend and with the hood closed, after about 15 seconds past startup, you wouldn't know it was a diesel. Plus it came with a Red Top Optima from the factory.

[CLAYDOG]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
Claydog, did you ever finish that car? Check your PM

We're pulling the first set of molds this weekend. PM me your E-mail if you want to see the full set of pics

[Alan06SUT]

Originally posted by CLAYDOG:
On the D-max, weight was part of the issue, but I didn't hear the reasoning, just know that it was brought up and was the last straw. The primary reason for no D-max is that with the short over hangs of the H2, the leading edge of the hood would have to come up close to 4" to fit a radiator with enough cooling capacity for that particular diesel.
Ive seen an H2 that was converted to Allison/duramax under the stock hood. It was some conversion company, maybe someone can post a link, I'm too lazy right now.

[evldave]

Here's something interesting. I'm at a quality conference here in Milwakee, and just happened to have breakfast with (so she says), the lead of reliability engineering at AM General for the new H2 release in '08. IF she is as she says, and she wasn't feeding me a line of BS (she seemed honest), here's some info:

The '08 will not be on the 900 platform. In fact, she said that they were specifically staying away from moving 'formally' to the 900 platform to keep distance between the H2 and the Tahoe/etc. Some things will overlap, but they aren't adopting it as a platform.

She commented that the rear overhead console (DVD) in the '08 was the same as the Tahoe, but the front of the overhead would be different. She wasn't sure about the rest of the dash.

They hadn't started any of the service costs calculations for the '08 model yet. I completely forgot to ask about the diesel, so I'll try and sit next to her tomorrow for b-fast again.

What's cool is that apparently reliability engineering is NEW to AM General. Granted, they are moving away from the H2, but at least they are building it into the '08 model changes.

[PARAGON]

Skip on the diesel question, it ain't happening. The dash would be interesting since they are re-doing it. What about the seats? Are they going to use the top level seats from the Tahoe? I heart the seats. Me lovey the seats........... Ummmmm...... Oh yeah. Ask about the steering. Will it be rack and pinion or not. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[CLAYDOG]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
Skip on the diesel question, it ain't happening. The dash would be interesting since they are re-doing it. What about the seats? Are they going to use the top level seats from the Tahoe? I heart the seats. Me lovey the seats........... Ummmmm...... Oh yeah. Ask about the steering. Will it be rack and pinion or not. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Seat have electronic controls. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by CLAYDOG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Skip on the diesel question, it ain't happening. The dash would be interesting since they are re-doing it. What about the seats? Are they going to use the top level seats from the Tahoe? I heart the seats. Me lovey the seats........... Ummmmm...... Oh yeah. Ask about the steering. Will it be rack and pinion or not. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Seat have electronic controls. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>But are they made by Lay Z Boy. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Andy C]

A three page thread that does not have the Canuck and the Sasanach shaking their rattles at each other - amazing http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by Andy C:
A three page thread that does not have the Canuck and the Sasanach shaking their rattles at each other - amazing http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif go toss a caber and be done with ye

[DennisAJC]

Originally posted by Andy C:
A three page thread that does not have the Canuck and the Sasanach shaking their rattles at each other - amazing http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK.

I sleep all night and I work all day!

I cut down trees, I skip and jump, I like to press wild flowers..... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Better? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[DRTYFN]

I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK.

I sleep all night and I work all day!

I cut down trees, I skip and jump, I like to press wild flowers..... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Better? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Damn, you ghey.;)

I just heard today that the H2 definitely WILL be getting the new 6.2L 400hp engine. It will be a 2007 model, but availability is unclear as to whether it will be an '07 out in '06 or '07. I'm first in line. Guess which color?:D

[PARAGON]

2007 H2 SUV Changes

Deletions

Exterior paint color (18U) Desert Sand.
(B57) Uplevel Chrome Appearance Package. (RPO code only. Content moved to (R13) Chrome Appearance Package.)
(QHW) LT315/70R17 all-terrain blackwall tires
New Features

Exterior Color (48U) All-terrain Blue.
Exterior Color (55U) Fusion Orange Metallic
New content in (R13) Chrome Appearance Package. (R13) now includes (V67) double-crossbar luggage rack made of brushed aluminum, (ND1) chrome aluminum fuel filler door, (JHA) chrome aluminum hood handles (set of 2) and (JHB) chrome aluminum hood latches (set of 2).
Chrome exterior door handles are now standard on all models.
(QHY) LT315/70R17D all-terrain blackwall tires.

[KenP]

2007
Hummer H2 - A diesel-powered Alpha performance model could arrive in 2007.
Hummer H3 - The H3 is scheduled to get an Alpha model in 2007. It will be powered by either a Turbocharged I-5, V6, V8 or diesel engine.I posted something similar to this in the H3 section a few weeks ago.:D ;)

[KenP]

Guess which color?:DDesert sand, duh.:p

[johndjmix1]

Ill tell you what, once that diesel H2 comes out im worried about what will hapen to trade in values. Forget the list. The day that sucker comes out with the diesel im there for a trade-in. Love the H2, but miss my powerstroke ford. Having diesel and H2 would be PERFECTION.

--John

[31_bandits]

overheard in convo with various other H2 drivers over the weekend:

a diesel is soon-to-arrive, but it will be a six cylinder

the 8 liter vortec engine is forthcoming


IMO, neither seem likely as the former would risk making the H2 even more underpowered on the highway and in the streets, and the latter would probably re-invigorate fuel-economy-scrutiny and give a second wind to the slowly fading hummer-gas-hog-panic, and i doubt GMs marketing team is silly enough to do that.

I would guess you could get an EPA rating in the low 20's for highway driving with

a 500lb diet
slight aerodynamic improvements (without making it look sleek, keep the hummer look)
a tranny that was designed around the EPA test the way many vehicles are. The test is standardized and can be designed around. Don't think the high ratings of many cars isn't based on that and I assume that considerable R&D time at Toyota goes to this.

With a duramax and EPA-tuned tranny, i wonder if one could get in the mid 20's highway? Sure you could.


Of course, the H2 isn't currently subject to EPA ratings, but i do think that a public demonstration of at least reasonable mileage would be good for the Hummer brand. Maybe GM could just make a better-mileage H2 and voluntarily subject it to the EPA test. If it could be done, it wouldn't be a stupid move from an image/marketing perspective.

After all, the lack of an EPA rating lets GM dodge the bullet with the H2, but it also lets enviro's call it an "8mpg behemoth" in their propaganda.

[f5fstop]

overheard in convo with various other H2 drivers over the weekend: Overheard while trying to get a few Z's in a meeting and reading my powertrain tracking sheets to see what I have to plan for in the near future.
a diesel is soon-to-arrive, but it will be a six cylinder Don't hold your breath for this one:D

the 8 liter vortec engine is forthcoming This one either


IMO, neither seem likely as the former would risk making the H2 even more underpowered on the highway and in the streets, and the latter would probably re-invigorate fuel-economy-scrutiny and give a second wind to the slowly fading hummer-gas-hog-panic, and i doubt GMs marketing team is silly enough to do that.

I would guess you could get an EPA rating in the low 20's for highway driving with

a 500lb diet
slight aerodynamic improvements (without making it look sleek, keep the hummer look)
a tranny that was designed around the EPA test the way many vehicles are. The test is standardized and can be designed around. Don't think the high ratings of many cars isn't based on that and I assume that considerable R&D time at Toyota goes to this. Redesigned body is a really good possibility, new trans is also a very good possibility, but what it will look like, and what it will have to transfer the power is top secret....
With a duramax and EPA-tuned tranny, i wonder if one could get in the mid 20's highway? Sure you could.


Of course, the H2 isn't currently subject to EPA ratings, but i do think that a public demonstration of at least reasonable mileage would be good for the Hummer brand. Maybe GM could just make a better-mileage H2 and voluntarily subject it to the EPA test. If it could be done, it wouldn't be a stupid move from an image/marketing perspective. It will get better mileage

After all, the lack of an EPA rating lets GM dodge the bullet with the H2, but it also lets enviro's call it an "8mpg behemoth" in their propaganda. There are other vehicles that dodge this bullet too, it just seems like the Hummer is the one that is always targeted by the small minded enviormental idiots. I believe the SRT 10 has the worse EPA mileage....

[Bully13]

I Leased my H2 in may for 3 years hoping to trade it in for a diesel I could buy and keep. That will be 2009. (Crossing my fingers)

[ckhagman]

Since the EPA requirements are what closed the book on the H1 it will be interesting to see how AM General/GM adapt a diesel into the H2. Not because it can't be done but because of the cost. The GMC Sierra's built in 2007 will have an additional cost of about $2500 on top of the about $6,000 duramax option. The H2 is not a low numbered vehicle but compared to the GMC pickups it is low so spreading the cost over all vehicles would be much higher than it is for the GMC pickups. It is not the engine that needs to be certified but the application. So just because the GMC pickups have a certified engine doesn't mean the H2 would since the application is different, much like the H1 was different. Not saying it can't be done but the EPA requirements are rediculous. Of course if the engine that the H2 would get is entirely different who knows what would happen.

It is interesting that companies like Land Rover and Volvo are developing engines for the NA market. My wife really wants an XC90 so I asked about a diesel option to a couple of people and they said that it is in the works. The mpg is rediculous in the vehicle in europe as they said it is getting like 30-40mpg.

Another interesting fact is the development of Diesel/Electric engines that LR, Volvo and of course General Engine Products (AM General) are working on. Do I see a reincarnation of the H1? :)

[31_bandits]

There are other vehicles that dodge this bullet too, it just seems like the Hummer is the one that is always targeted by the small minded enviormental idiots. I believe the SRT 10 has the worse EPA mileage....

YEah, the 'burban/yukon/escalade "ESV"s dodge the bullet. The Navigator.

Virtually any 3/4 ton pickup

and i'm sure many more i can't think of... But as you mentioned, the H2 is the one that takes all the bullets, and as such i think that a very wise marketing move from GM would be to shoot its mileage up into respectable territory and volunteer to be EPA cert'd once that is accomplished... go with a possible 2wd transfer case option to bump it up a couple mpgs, diesel, whatever.

Because, well, while the enviro's will never condone a hummer, and will always freak out in their general direction no matter what - it would be reasonable to give people who aren't anti-hummer something to say in return, and to take the capacity to slander hummers with invented dramatized mileage figures "that 8mpg earth-fcking *******" and so on and so forth.

Its just a thought i've had.

I guess the death of the H1 has left me thinking from time to time about the future of the H2.

God bless soccer moms if they drive sales. You boys and girls be nice to them. If offroad-used and off-road capable Wranglers were all that were sold, they'd have killed the model years ago. It survives via college kids that think its cool to pop the doors off and hang a knee out the side, and beg dad for one until he relents, and old people that chose it over a miata or wahtever as a novelty sunday-driving car.

[31_bandits]

Another interesting fact is the development of Diesel/Electric engines that LR, Volvo and of course General Engine Products (AM General) are working on. Do I see a reincarnation of the H1? :)

I saw that note about the hybrid H1 as well, pretty interesting stuff. Its a shame that the H2s diesel drivetrain couldn't sneak by via sharing cat converters, etc., with something that's already proven.

I hope they do something rash to the H2 to reinvigorate interest and so forth.