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PewterPower
05-19-2005, 12:22 PM
I'm interested in changing my stock BFG ATs (after 47K miles) to the Toyo Open Country MTs. I would like the more aggressive look.

My question is this....can I put the 37x13.5x17 size on the H2 with Helo Maxx Wheels with a backspacing of -4.5 without having problems ? I have reviewed lots of prior threads and even PhilD's excellent tire information but I'm not clear on the answer to my question.

I would appreciate the assistance of the many experts on this forum.

Thanks,
Vicki

PewterPower
05-19-2005, 12:22 PM
I'm interested in changing my stock BFG ATs (after 47K miles) to the Toyo Open Country MTs. I would like the more aggressive look.

My question is this....can I put the 37x13.5x17 size on the H2 with Helo Maxx Wheels with a backspacing of -4.5 without having problems ? I have reviewed lots of prior threads and even PhilD's excellent tire information but I'm not clear on the answer to my question.

I would appreciate the assistance of the many experts on this forum.

Thanks,
Vicki

tower
05-19-2005, 01:28 PM
The numbers sound good, but there is no way to know for sure other than trial and error. Tell the tire shop that unless they can guarantee that they won't rub, you need to try them for a few miles. Test them with a fully loaded vehicle and a locked (left and right) steering wheel on the most severe terrain you can find near the shop at max inflation, normal inflation and when aired down to the lowest you would use off road. There are variations in anti-sway bar adjustments from one H2 to the next, so no one can speak for EXACTLY how your truck will fit these tires. The section width is exactly 1 inch greater than stock (13.5" vs. 12.5" inch originally). Section width refers to the width of the tire at its widest point under normal inflation pressure, not at the tread. With a backspacing of 4.5 inches, you may be okay. Don't go beyond 4.5" backspacing as this will put excessive stress on your C/V joints.

Wish I could be of more help, but you need to try them out to be sure. Perhaps someone with the identical set-up will reply. That will get you closer, but still only an approximation. Please report back with your findings. Thanks!

lexpro
05-19-2005, 11:51 PM
35x13.5s rub a little on mine....i bet the 37x13.5s would rub more than i want thats why i didnt get them....good luck!

PewterPower
05-20-2005, 12:48 PM
Lexpro: What kind of tire did you find in that 35x13.5R17 size ?

PhilD: The Helo wheels are 17x9. I, like you, am ok with a little rubbing and am willing to make some small adjustments underneath the fender well if necessary.

Any idea what kind of mileage I'll get from the Toyo tires ? What about the BFG MTs ?

Thanks for all your help,
Vicki

lexpro
05-20-2005, 12:51 PM
Vicki,,,,sorry didnt give more info mine are 20's in Toyo MT

tower
05-20-2005, 11:50 PM
One last item to consider, Vicki, is this. While I don't wish to invalidate lexpro's experience, he was running a 20" (diameter) rim. This would be 1 1/2 inches farther away from the axle center. 20"-17" = 3" change in diameter = 1 1/2" change in radius. Consequently, the section width (widest part of the tire) is closer to the frame parts where it might rub. So, ironically, for a fixed overall tire size (37") a taller sidewall (or smaller rim) makes rubbing less likely. So staying with 17's works in your favor. If any of this is unclear, feel free to PM.

ROX
05-22-2005, 03:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PewterPower:

Any idea what kind of mileage I'll get from the Toyo tires ? What about the BFG MTs ?

Thanks for all your help,
Vicki </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've had my BFG MT's for over 10k miles now, and they are wearing very nicely. I've had them on several other vehicles for more than 40k miles. It's important to make sure you rotate them every oil change or every 5000 miles to keep them from cupping. (or whatever it's called) Either tire would be a good choice IMHO.

Good Luck! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DennisAJC
05-22-2005, 04:11 AM
On Toyo's webpage it lists a 35x12.50x17 Open Country M/T.

But nobody has them in stock? It's definitley the tire I want.

Phil,

How is handling in wet weather? I hear these are great as oppossed to the BFG M/Ts slidding around. It looks like the lugs have a factory sipe. Is that why?

lexpro
05-23-2005, 01:25 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DennisAJC:
On Toyo's webpage it lists a 35x12.50x17 Open Country M/T.

But nobody has them in stock? It's definitley the tire I want.

QUOTE]

D, my local guy said 45-60 days out on the Toyos...

ROX
05-23-2005, 04:03 PM
I just met a gal that put 35x12.5x20 inch Toyos on her H2. It was parked next to mine in the parking lot at the beach. Those Toyos looked like they were about 1.5 to 2 inches taller than my 35x12.5x17 BFG MT. They even looked like they took up more wheel well space.

Different manufacturers must use different measurements, cuz they don't look the same. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

PewterPower
06-01-2005, 11:20 AM
My local tire store here in FL cannot find the Toyo tires....any suggestions on where I might find some ? I'm located in Tampa, FL.

ROX
06-01-2005, 02:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PewterPower:
My local tire store here in FL cannot find the Toyo tires....any suggestions on where I might find some ? I'm located in Tampa, FL. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
My local tire store here in Portland couldn't get a set either, but I did stop by a Les Schwab Tire Center and they had 35x12.5x18 in stock. Les Schwab is a huge tire distributor here in the Northwest. I'm not sure if you can order on line or not. Hope that's a little bit of help.

http://www.lesschwab.com

tower
06-01-2005, 04:55 PM
Hey, Roxie!

I just called the west coast center. Right now the 37 x1 2.50 R17's are on national back order. They expect them from Japan mid-summer, but are not making any guarantees.

ROX
06-01-2005, 05:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tower:
Hey, Roxie!

I just called the west coast center. Right now the 37 x1 2.50 R17's are on national back order. They expect them from Japan mid-summer, but are not making any guarantees. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I was checking on the R18's. sorry. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

timgco
06-02-2005, 01:49 AM
FWIW- I have had the BFG MT's 37/12.50/17's on my stock non air susp. SUT. Very little rubbing. when I had them on my 03 air susp H2 SUV, they rubbed everywhere; esp. when aired down and flexed.

Just like Tower and Phil both said.. You have to just try it.
So on the very wet roads they can be a little slick. On wet roads or ice (not that you have to worry about the ice part) I would really prefer an AT tire.
If you just want a bigger tire, I have seen an H2 with 37" BFG AT's. They looked nice, filled that wheel well a little more too.
Good luck, and post some pics when you decide.

tower
06-03-2005, 03:26 AM
Tim, I totally agree. I saw 37" BFG A/T's on a Stealth Grey SUT out here. It was actually Xenowolf. I sold him my original grilleguard. Those tires looked fantastic!

PewterPower
06-07-2005, 01:16 AM
My local guy called today and said that he found the Toyo's (37x13.5x17) in Jacksonville. I should have pictures with them installed by the weekend !!!

tower
06-09-2005, 06:53 AM
Very much looking forward to your photos!

PewterPower
06-14-2005, 06:05 PM
OK....finally....here they are:

PewterPower
06-14-2005, 06:08 PM
Obviously I don't know how to post pictures.....I'll keep working on it...

tower
06-15-2005, 12:56 AM
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PewterPower
06-16-2005, 01:05 AM
OK...I'll try again.

PewterPower
06-16-2005, 01:07 AM
And another:

DennisAJC
06-16-2005, 01:46 AM
****.

ROX
06-16-2005, 01:22 PM
That looks great! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Does the extra width rub very much?

tower
06-16-2005, 05:03 PM
PP,

It seems you've learnt to upload pix.

F'ing beautiful setup! That's what I'll be doing to mine (wheels and tires), as soon as my BFG's and my debt wear down.

DennisAJC
06-17-2005, 04:20 AM
Upon further inspection........

Those pics look funny. The rimedges look blurry whereas the rest of the photo looks crisp.

Is this a joke PP or just my imagination?

Mabye I'm wrong, not insult intended. JUST JEALOUS http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

Your rig looks sweet (Not the chrome http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) and it's Pewter. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

tower
06-17-2005, 05:00 AM
Don't listen to that hallucinating canuck! Yes the photos are a little degraded, but can you imagine how great that setup will look on my black truck? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

drmiles
06-17-2005, 07:10 AM
I pu them on my stock rims and are vey happy

drmiles
06-17-2005, 07:12 AM
Pic with wheel turned

PewterPower
06-17-2005, 06:05 PM
The pictures I've posted are real. I had to downsize them to get them to upload and the 'fuzziness' must have occurred then.

My truck is an '03 Lux and I love it today just as I did the day I picked it up. Can't wait to take it offroad with the new tires.

There is a small bit of rubbing on the frame on the left side and on the sway bar(at least I think that's what it is) on the right. Nothing I cannot live with !! You should see the looks I get with these babies !!!!

Strokethis
06-26-2005, 07:05 PM
I just put a set of 37x13.5x24 toyo open country mt's on mine and they work fine. Backspacing is 5.5 and they rub a little on the frame rail when turned lock to lock. I love they ay they look I want to crank the torsion up a little more and run 39's on it cause i know they will fit stock. Im not going to lift it cause it wears too much stuff out.

Strokethis
06-26-2005, 08:00 PM
im going to install ford torsion keys in the front which give it about 1.5" of more lift and then in the back put a spacer under the airbag

Longhorn
06-26-2005, 08:04 PM
Best of luck with that. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif You've obviously done your homework.

Please post the photos once you get them mounted up.

Strokethis
06-27-2005, 11:19 PM
I dont know that I will do this I just spent alot of money on my 37's on 24's on it now and im happy for the time being its just a thought to see if it will work.