Sean Taylor

[h2co-pilot]

Wow. They are saying he could have brain damage if he survives.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312902,00.html

[NewHummerGuy]

This is a really sad story. And with as little information as they are posting about this I am really expecting the worst.

[CO Hummer]

Gee. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. :rolleyes:

[CO Hummer]

I'm still LOL at this:

and Taylor grabbed a machete he keeps in the bedroom for protection


Nice choice for a defensive weapon. :jump:

[DRTYFN]

Trying to play Scarface and got:OWNED: :jump: :jump:

[KenP]

This is a really sad story. And with as little information as they are posting about this I am really expecting the worst.x2 He really turned himself around after the birth of his daughter.

Don't forget what his family went through with his dad, either. Tough times for that family.

[tower]

Wow. They are saying he could have brain damage if he survives.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312902,00.htmlBrain damage isn't all it's craccked up to be. Trust me. Doesn't exactly sound like he was wired quite right to begin with. I'd just like to have the money from all of his fines!

[SnakeH2]

Died

[h2co-pilot]

GET OUT!

[SnakeH2]

GET OUT!

ESPN

[h2co-pilot]

Wow, sure enough.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313041,00.html

[NewHummerGuy]

Brain damage isn't all it's craccked up to be. Trust me. Doesn't exactly sound like he was wired quite right to begin with. I'd just like to have the money from all of his fines!


Exactly right:D

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

I eat my bagel down the street from his house...


for sale 2 homes in miami

[jmsspratlin]

He passed on Tuesday

[CO Hummer]

Just a really sad day when your team loses their star player to something as senseless as this.:grouphug:

Lighten up man. All of the sudden when an NFL players dies it's a major tragedy? There are 100s of stories everyday of tragic deather which are a lot more compelling for compassion than this one. I haven't seen you wail about any of those cases.

[NewHummerGuy]

Lighten up man. All of the sudden when an NFL players dies it's a major tragedy? There are 100s of stories everyday of tragic deather which are a lot more compelling for compassion than this one. I haven't seen you wail about any of those cases.

Not a very good correalation you draw here but ok I get your point. Doesnt mean I agree with it but I get your point. This is my team that I have grown up supporting for 30+ years. When something like this happens to your team you kind of have a little more invested than if it were just any other person. Wailing???? Well if you say so.

Thats all I was trying to get across.

[CO Hummer]

Wailing???? Well if you say so.

Yeah. Funny how you can say that now after you deleted what you wrote.


Now, if you wanna talk about the impact on the Redskins......It is HUGE. He was a stud player, no question about it. But that has no bearing the value of the loss of this guy's life vs. anyone else.

[NewHummerGuy]

Yeah. Funny how you can say that now after you deleted what you wrote.


Now, if you wanna talk about the impact on the Redskins......It is HUGE. He was a stud player, no question about it. But that has no bearing the value of the loss of this guy's life vs. anyone else.

I deleted it because I didnt want to seem like I was on some soapbox.

If you like you can repost it I am sure and if not then what I said for those that didnt see it was that Tower shouldnt be saying that he was mentally challenged or that he deserved what he got. So what if he went after some guys for stealing his ATV (I would do the same). And that he was aquitted of a DUI (big F'ing deal). Does this make him a bad person??? I have friends who have done worse things in life. He did not deserve what happened to him in this case.

Damn how quickly folks get flamed for being upset over something like this happening close to home. You are in Colorado not 5 miles from Redskins park like me. I also have lived in this area for 35 years so the Skins mean something to me. Sad to say but the everyday Joe that this may happen to I do not have a connection with.

Hope this clears up my deleted post which was deleted solely to help deter any further arguments:beerchug:

[Big Dad]

Too bad.

[Badace]

Miami is an S Hole. (BTW, so is Dallas, Houston, Detroit, Shreveport, Texarkana, All of Louisiana) And you can blame it on two things. Blacks and Mexicans. There I said it. Take the crime that comes from those two races and what do you have? Almost a peaceful society. Its Science. And A FNG Fact. Look It UP!

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Miami is an S Hole. (BTW, so is Dallas, Houston, Detroit, Shreveport, Texarkana, All of Louisiana) And you can blame it on two things. Blacks and Mexicans. There I said it. Take the crime that comes from those two races and what do you have? Almost a peaceful society. Its Science. And A FNG Fact. Look It UP!

do you hate Jews, Catholics and Gypies just as much ?

[DennisAJC]

do you hate Jews, Catholics and Gypies just as much ?

:clapping:

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/thumb/7/70/Nazi_prairie_dog.gif/120px-Nazi_prairie_dog.gif

[DRTYFN]

:clapping:

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/thumb/7/70/Nazi_prairie_dog.gif/120px-Nazi_prairie_dog.gif
44883

[tower]

I deleted it because I didnt want to seem like I was on some soapbox.

If you like you can repost it I am sure and if not then what I said for those that didnt see it was that Tower shouldnt be saying that he was mentally challenged or that he deserved what he got. So what if he went after some guys for stealing his ATV (I would do the same). And that he was aquitted of a DUI (big F'ing deal). Does this make him a bad person??? I have friends who have done worse things in life. He did not deserve what happened to him in this case.

Damn how quickly folks get flamed for being upset over something like this happening close to home. You are in Colorado not 5 miles from Redskins park like me. I also have lived in this area for 35 years so the Skins mean something to me. Sad to say but the everyday Joe that this may happen to I do not have a connection with.

Hope this clears up my deleted post which was deleted solely to help deter any further arguments:beerchug:Hold on there, Let's get our facts straight. First off, I am sorry for what happened to him. I find it sad. Nowhere did I state or imply that he deserved what happened to him. I was simply pointing out that this guy had some serious issues before this incident. Nor did I say that he was mentally challenged. What I said was "Brain damage isn't all it's cracked up to be. Trust me." I have some experience in this area having suffered a stroke (which technically IS brain damage). I was also suggesting that He had serious difficulties before any of this happened to him.

Also, Badace, I disagree with you totally. I don't know what you are pretending is Science, but it all currently shows that personalities are virtually completely a product of environment rather than genetics. I am sure that you have some redeeming qualities, but your racism is, frankly, despicable and obscene.

[Badace]

do you hate Jews, Catholics and Gypies just as much ?
I do not Hate anybody. They have as much right to everything as anyone else. I am a realist. I do not wish harm to innocent people no matter what there race (Or even Preference Gaybob) or religion is. I like the Jews. Mormons, etc. Who am I to say what is right or wrong. I just STATED a FNG Fact. :soapbox:

[Badace]

Also, Badace, I disagree with you totally. I don't know what you are pretending is Science, but it all currently shows that personalities are virtually completely a product of environment rather than genetics. I am sure that you have some redeeming qualities, but your racism is, frankly, despicable and obscene.



The Its Science is a Line from Ron Burgandy. Obviosly you might need to read a dictionary on what the difference between racism and prejudice is.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

:clapping:

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/thumb/7/70/Nazi_prairie_dog.gif/120px-Nazi_prairie_dog.gif

Its HEBREW to you, MAU !!! LOL:clapping:

[Agriv8r]

Hope this clears up my deleted post which was deleted solely to help deter any further arguments:beerchug:


UHHH....dont think it worked.....

[CO Hummer]

The deletion of deterence posts would defer further requirements for deletion, so he should defer in the first place.

[NewHummerGuy]

UHHH....dont think it worked.....

I think you are right ;) :clapping:

[Badace]

Blaming your actions on your environment/upbringing/ or anything else is an excuse and displacing responsibility. Nothing gives anyone the right to take an innocent persons life. Nothing. No my momma hit me to much or I grew up in the hood or that is the way it is. If pointing the obvious fact that the prisons are over run with blacks and hispanics and pointing that out makes me a prejudice sob then so be it. Denying it means that liberal excuse maker that blames others for your actions is what you must be. Not all Blacks and Mexicans are bad and not all whitey's are good. But the numbers don't lie. Blame whitey for the circumstance if you want but each individual is responsible for his or her actions. Just like Serial Killers reflect on us Crackers, gang Bangers and drug dealers reflect on the mexicans and blacks negatively. I am not so nieve to say no whites are gang bangers or drug dealers nor am I saying blacks can't be serial killers.


Fact # 1: 29% of Crime in the US is committed by illegal aliens.
Fact # 2: About 10.4% of the entire African-American male population in the United States aged 25 to 29 was incarcerated, by far the largest racial or ethnic group—by comparison, 2.4% of Hispanic men and 1.2% of white men in that same age group were incarcerated. According to a report by the Justice Policy Institute in 2002, the number of black men in prison has grown to five times the rate it was twenty years ago. Today, more African-American men are in jail than in college. In 2000 there were 791,600 black men in prison and 603,032 enrolled in college. In 1980, there were 143,000 black men in prison and 463,700 enrolled in college.

The last line of the above paragraph should tell you it is an issue. 1980 when racism/prejudice was higher there were 143k in prison vs. 463,700 in college. Today 791k vs 603 in college. (In My granma voice) It's that damn Rap music. (Which I listen to before you call Al Sharpton on me)


If stating the obvious is wrong, I don't want to be right!

[CO Hummer]

Despite all of this, I still think rear winches are cool. :jump:

[Badace]

Despite all of this, I still think rear winches are cool. :jump:
I Concur. Rear winches are cool. RIP Sean Taylor.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Blaming your actions on your environment/upbringing/ or anything else is an excuse and displacing responsibility. Nothing gives anyone the right to take an innocent persons life. Nothing. No my momma hit me to much or I grew up in the hood or that is the way it is. If pointing the obvious fact that the prisons are over run with blacks and hispanics and pointing that out makes me a prejudice sob then so be it. Denying it means that liberal excuse maker that blames others for your actions is what you must be. Not all Blacks and Mexicans are bad and not all whitey's are good. But the numbers don't lie. Blame whitey for the circumstance if you want but each individual is responsible for his or her actions. Just like Serial Killers reflect on us Crackers, gang Bangers and drug dealers reflect on the mexicans and blacks negatively. I am not so nieve to say no whites are gang bangers or drug dealers nor am I saying blacks can't be serial killers.


Fact # 1: 29% of Crime in the US is committed by illegal aliens.
Fact # 2: About 10.4% of the entire African-American male population in the United States aged 25 to 29 was incarcerated, by far the largest racial or ethnic group?by comparison, 2.4% of Hispanic men and 1.2% of white men in that same age group were incarcerated. According to a report by the Justice Policy Institute in 2002, the number of black men in prison has grown to five times the rate it was twenty years ago. Today, more African-American men are in jail than in college. In 2000 there were 791,600 black men in prison and 603,032 enrolled in college. In 1980, there were 143,000 black men in prison and 463,700 enrolled in college.

The last line of the above paragraph should tell you it is an issue. 1980 when racism/prejudice was higher there were 143k in prison vs. 463,700 in college. Today 791k vs 603 in college. (In My granma voice) It's that damn Rap music. (Which I listen to before you call Al Sharpton on me)


If stating the obvious is wrong, I don't want to be right!

what are the ratios for Hebrews in prison in the U. S. compared to the overall Hebrews population calculating both white coller and blue coller crime ?

[Badace]

Are we including Hacidic Jews? Then the answer wold be a whales vagina. If not, ... A Dolphins penis.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Are we including Hacidic Jews? Then the answer wold be a whales vagina. If not, ... A Dolphins penis.

why am i always correcting everyones spelling... LOL

Hasidism (Hasidic) or Chassidism (Chassidic)

[DennisAJC]

what are the ratios for Hebrews in prison in the U. S. compared to the overall Hebrews population calculating both white coller and blue coller crime ?
But you guys killed Jesus so you're all damned.:jump:

[Agriv8r]

I don't want to be right!

not something you have to worry about...sounds like you have a few issues.......if you believe enviroment does not influence behavior then you must have had a priveledged upbringing.....

[Badace]

not something you have to worry about...sounds like you have a few issues.......if you believe enviroment does not influence behavior then you must have had a priveledged upbringing.....

It may influence it but IT DOES NOT FNG EXCUSE IT! BTW F U and my upbringing. My Mom suffered a long bout with Leukemia and my dad left my sister and I when I was 15. So go F yourself and talk ab out what are facts and not assumptions. THis just in you are a FNAH!

[Badace]

why am i always correcting everyones spelling... LOL

Hasidism (Hasidic) or Chassidism (Chassidic)


Sorry, I was watching season 1 on the Sopranos and they were threatening to finish a Hasidic mans Brys/Bris.

[DennisAJC]

And why do they call white people white? They're pink.

[Badace]

More Beige. Pink is what women are on the inside.

[DennisAJC]

More Beige. Pink is what women are on the inside.

:jump:

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

But you guys killed Jesus so you're all damned.:jump:

GOSH, and i thought the Romans did it...

Let see Jesus, WHY HE'S A HEBREW, born a Hebrew, lived his life as a Hebrew (as an adult he became a Rabbi) , died a Hebrew, His GOD was a Hebrew GOD, in fact those people who later on called themselves Christians worshipped in a Synagogue (http://i-cias.com/e.o/synagog.htm) until around the 5th century of the Christian Era...

[DRTYFN]

And why do they call white people white? They're pink.
And you're called yellow why? Oh yeah, the pee drinking thing.:jump: :jump:

[DennisAJC]

And you're called yellow why? Oh yeah, the pee drinking thing.:jump: :jump:

Shut it milk bread. My color is Tan.:fdance:

[Badace]

There is a reason The Christians love and help Protect the Jews. (And Israel) Not that Israel cant defend itself. I am getting ready to start a conversion to Catholocism with my wife and kids. We have tried lots of different religions. Catholics have such a connection with the religion and it actually has given me a nice appreciation for the Jewish people. No other religion truly made me feel a kin to the Jewish religion and old school religion. Plus you can drink in public. How cool is that. No alter boy jokes please. Know the stories, and I feel the priests that did that should be strung up by their wankers. But I never have read the doctrine about Boy love. I did hear about it on a South Park episode, but never have I seen it in real life.

[Badace]

And you're called yellow why? Oh yeah, the pee drinking thing.:jump: :jump: I thought it was brown from the doo eating thing. mudsports.com for you that dare.

[Klaus]

Blaming your actions on your environment/upbringing/ or anything else is an excuse and displacing responsibility.
.......if you believe enviroment does not influence behavior then you must have had a priveledged upbringing.....

Wasn't this argument made into a movie?

44885

:jump:

[Badace]

Louis Winthorpe III: I had the most absurd nightmare. I was poor and no one liked me. I lost my job, I lost my house, Penelope hated me and it was all because of this terrible, awful Negro.

[DennisAJC]

Wasn't this argument made into a movie?

44885

:jump:
I still love Mortimer Duke's line after he lost the dollar bet, "Do you honestly think I'd have a nigger run our family business???"

That look on Eddie when he was hiding in the stall listening was priceless.:clapping:

[Badace]

Not PC enough for you Agrv8or? Change the words to:
Louis Winthorpe III: I had the most absurd nightmare. I was poor and no one liked me. I lost my job, I lost my house, Penelope hated me and it was all because of this terrible, awful African American.

There you go. you can sleep now. Now can we be friends?

[Badace]

I still love Mortimer Duke's line after he lost the dollar bet, "Do you honestly think I'd have a nigger run our family business???"

That look on Eddie when he was hiding in the stall listening was priceless.:clapping:

Ommmm you said th N woorrrd...

I liked this one

He was wearing my Harvard tie. Can you believe it? My Harvard tie. Like oh, sure he went to Harvard.

[Badace]

Okay, pork belly prices have been dropping all morning, which means that everybody is waiting for it to hit rock bottom, so they can buy low. Which means that the people who own the pork belly contracts are saying, "Hey, we're losing all our damn money, and Christmas is around the corner, and I ain't gonna have no money to buy my son the G.I. Joe with the kung-fu grip! And my wife ain't gonna f... my wife ain't gonna make love to me if I got no money!" So they're panicking right now, they're screaming "SELL! SELL!" to get out before the price keeps dropping.


Billy Ray Valentine: [while acting blind and legless] Hey, baby, what's happening? How are ya doing? Once you have a man with no legs, you never go back, baby. I know what you're thinkin'. You seen "Porgy and Bess"?
We can make it, baby! Me and you!... You BITCH!

[DRTYFN]

It's easier to use these wav files.
http://new.wavlist.com/movies/239/index.html

[Badace]

I love the internet. I am not sure I am falling for your Shennannigans DRTY. I have already been crapped on once by them.

[Big Dad]

Damn it, I spent all afternoon in class paying attention and missed all of this compelling action!

:rant:

[MarineHawk]

GOSH, and i thought the Romans did it...

Let see Jesus, WHY HE'S A HEBREW, born a Hebrew, lived his life as a Hebrew (as an adult he became a Rabbi) , died a Hebrew, His GOD was a Hebrew GOD, in fact those people who later on called themselves Christians worshipped in a Synagogue (http://i-cias.com/e.o/synagog.htm) until around the 5th century of the Christian Era...

Yes, but as Jesus said in Colossians 3:27, "I came here a Hebrew and the son of a Hebrew, but hence forth all Hebrews can drink my pee."

[Badace]

Yes, but as Jesus said in Colossians 3:27, "I came here a Hebrew and the son of a Hebrew, but hence forth all Hebrews can drink my pee."
I am not finding that in my version of the Bible. Oh, That must be out of the Scatalogical version.

[DennisAJC]

Yes, but as Jesus said in Colossians 3:27, "I came here a Hebrew and the son of a Hebrew, but hence forth all Hebrews can drink my pee."

:jump::jump::jump::jump::jump:


And then I read your signature again.
:jump::jump::jump::jump::jump:

[MarineHawk]

I am not finding that in my version of the Bible. Oh, That must be out of the Scatalogical version.

It's in the New Contemporary Standard International Worldwide King Friedrich II version.

[Badace]

It's in the New Contemporary Standard International Worldwide King Friedrich II version.

I will have to check the Christian Book Store for it. Sounds like a very compelling read. Any other fruits of wisdom I may want to know about so I can enjoy gleefully?

[tower]

I suppose I am more what you might call an "Acidic" Jew. :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana::dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

[DRTYFN]

I love the internet. I am not sure I am falling for your Shennannigans DRTY. I have already been crapped on once by them.
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=448508&postcount=9

[tower]

Badace. I am in no way suggesting abdication of personal responsibility. That is an area where I agree with you completely. I am merely suggesting that there are reasons that people grow up the way that they do which far supersede the influence of genetics. No child is born evil, regardless of race. Not even serial killers. Neither am I disputing the statistics which you raise, only your conclusion.

[DennisAJC]

Badace. I am in no way suggesting abdication of personal responsibility. That is an area where I agree with you completely. I am merely suggesting that there are reasons that people grow up the way that they do which far supersede the influence of genetics. No child is born evil, regardless of race. Not even serial killers. Neither am I disputing the statistics which you raise, only your conclusion.



Children can be born as crackheads and alcoholics so I'm pretty sure children can be born as looters and shooters.

Looterbaby!!!!:jump:

[tower]

Children can be born as crackheads and alcoholics so I'm pretty sure children can be born as looters and shooters.

Looterbaby!!!!:jump:Absolutely not! You make my point perfectly, Dennis. Being born addicted is a product of environment, NOT genetics.

[DennisAJC]

Absolutely not! You make my point perfectly, Dennis. Being born addicted is a product of environment, NOT genetics.

Then how would you explain Chucky? Damien? Rosemary'e Baby?

You are so wrong Tower. So wrong.

[tower]

Then how would you explain Chucky? Damien? Rosemary'e Baby?

You are so wrong Tower. So wrong.By saying I don't know with whom you have been sleeping. :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:BTW, in the U.S. it's pronunced SO LONG and what if I am?! :giggling: :giggling: :giggling:

[h2co-pilot]

Oooh, just peeking in on the thread.....

[h2co-pilot]

......and peeking on out real quick.:D

[DRTYFN]

Okay, after listening to the little bit of details available on the shooting & the related info, I'm going to put my money on the girlfriend/fiance as the culprit. I mean, c'mon, she "hid under the covers" while he got shot??? And there was a knife left on his bed 8 days before??? STFU!! She must have found out he was playing Johnny Appleseed across the country and threatened him with castration or death.

[Badace]

Badace. I am in no way suggesting abdication of personal responsibility. That is an area where I agree with you completely. I am merely suggesting that there are reasons that people grow up the way that they do which far supersede the influence of genetics. No child is born evil, regardless of race. Not even serial killers. Neither am I disputing the statistics which you raise, only your conclusion.


The Its Science comment is Straight out of the legend of Ron Burgandy. I truly Know of no scientific evidence that suggests Blacks/Hispanics are DNA'd to be criminals. Furthest from that point.
My Point is The numbers are alarming and they are growing. If you take the two races out of the equation the US would be pretty peaceful. So should we eradicate them? Hell no. Be we should be aware of the obvious. Denying it allows it to grow and grow. Poor people and less fortunate people are not entitled to be excused. But Something has to be done or this will become the S Hole that Mexico is and we will be the illegals in Canada. SH*^ is running up hill and this is the only instance that I know S does that.

[Badace]

From Ron Burgandy:

Veronica Corningstone: You are not a man. You are a big fat joke.
Ron Burgundy: I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science

[Badace]

Ron Burgundy: Discovered by the Germans in 1904, they named it San Diego, which of course in German means a whale's vagina

Ron Burgundy: [to Veronica Corningstone as the news has just gone off the air] You're a real hooker. I'm gonna slap you in public.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ron Burgundy: [to Veronica Corningstone] I'm gonna shoot you with a BB gun when you're not looking. Yep, back of the head.

I'm gonna punch you in the ovary, that's what I'm gonna do. A straight shot. Right in the babymaker.

[Badace]

One of my fav's:

Veronica Corningstone: My God, what is that smell? Oh.
Brian Fantana: That's the smell of desire my lady.
Veronica Corningstone: God no, it smells like, like a used diaper... filled with... Indian food. Oh, excuse me.
Brian Fantana: You know, desire smells like that to some people
Garth Holliday: What is that? Smells like a turd covered in burnt hair.
News Station Employee: Smells like Bigfoot's dick.

[tower]

The Its Science comment is Straight out of the legend of Ron Burgandy. I truly Know of no scientific evidence that suggests Blacks/Hispanics are DNA'd to be criminals. Furthest from that point.
My Point is The numbers are alarming and they are growing. If you take the two races out of the equation the US would be pretty peaceful. So should we eradicate them? Hell no. Be we should be aware of the obvious. Denying it allows it to grow and grow. Poor people and less fortunate people are not entitled to be excused. But Something has to be done or this will become the S Hole that Mexico is and we will be the illegals in Canada. SH*^ is running up hill and this is the only instance that I know S does that.What, exactly, does that mean? Alternatively, you could find out what is at cause and address that rather than blaming.

[Badace]

Not my job to find out and if I new, who would listen to me or implement my thoughts. SO all I can do is complain. If that is not OK then kiss my arse and tell me what else to do. I also complain about healthe care, Taxes, gas prices, etc. So why not illegal immigration and crime?????????????? You must not be that smart if you think a single person can make a diff. Did Cindy Sheehan get the troops out of Iraq? No!. I am not running for office. If I did, after a lobbyist gave me ten mill do let illegal dumping go on, I would be no better than the rest of those crooks. I remove myself from situations that may influence me to do bad things. Maybe more people should practice that.

[Badace]

Not my job to find out and if I new, who would listen to me or implement my thoughts. SO all I can do is complain. If that is not OK then kiss my arse and tell me what else to do. I also complain about healthe care, Taxes, gas prices, etc. So why not illegal immigration and crime?????????????? You must not be that smart if you think a single person can make a diff. Did Cindy Sheehan get the troops out of Iraq? No!. I am not running for office. If I did, after a lobbyist gave me ten mill do let illegal dumping go on, I would be no better than the rest of those crooks. I remove myself from situations that may influence me to do bad things. Maybe more people should practice that.

It means, if the GD Blacks and FNG Mexicans were taking out of the prison Numbers, THERE WOULD BE FEW VIOLENT CRIMINALS IN THE GD JAIL SYSTEM. BY process of fng elimination, that means the violent crimes fall at the feet of the freaking GUILTY WHICH ARE WHO THEY ARE. IF FACTS ARE SO GD INSULTING TO YOU THEN IGNORE THEM LIKE OTHER LIBERALS. BUT THOSE ARE THE FACTS AND I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FRO THEM JUST BECAUSE I POINT THEM OUT!

[NewHummerGuy]

Not my job to find out and if I new, who would listen to me or implement my thoughts. SO all I can do is complain. If that is not OK then kiss my arse and tell me what else to do. I also complain about healthe care, Taxes, gas prices, etc. So why not illegal immigration and crime?????????????? You must not be that smart if you think a single person can make a diff. Did Cindy Sheehan get the troops out of Iraq? No!. I am not running for office. If I did, after a lobbyist gave me ten mill do let illegal dumping go on, I would be no better than the rest of those crooks. I remove myself from situations that may influence me to do bad things. Maybe more people should practice that.

Actually this post right here makes a lot of damn sense:)

[Big Dad]

Aren't you proud that we're all linked together by DNA....

[tower]

Not my job to find out and if I new, who would listen to me or implement my thoughts. SO all I can do is complain. If that is not OK then kiss my arse and tell me what else to do. I also complain about healthe care, Taxes, gas prices, etc. So why not illegal immigration and crime?????????????? You must not be that smart if you think a single person can make a diff. Did Cindy Sheehan get the troops out of Iraq? No!. I am not running for office. If I did, after a lobbyist gave me ten mill do let illegal dumping go on, I would be no better than the rest of those crooks. I remove myself from situations that may influence me to do bad things. Maybe more people should practice that.Well, I'll certainly pass on the ass kissing part. And I believe that the first amendment gives you the right to complain all you like, so feel free. I was just advocating a more constructive, productive approach. And you are right, I must be very stupid and naive because I absolutely think one person can make a huge difference, Who is ducking responsibility now? Did Christ or Buddha or Gandhi or Nelson Mandela or Robert Oppenheimer or Einstein change the course of human history? Absolutely!

[Badace]

Are we? I have no clue and it does not change anything one way or the other. THis conversation is not blaming one race or the other. It is just stating facts. What GD part of that do you not understand? Are we ones that blame the white guy for pointing out something obvious and backed up by facts just because it is not racially pc? IF so then blame me for all of the crime and the way it falls racially. I am the bad guy. I kill people with my words that are not outlandish, just PC not to your liking. BUT IT IS A FACT WHICH SHOULD NOT BE IGNORED NOR DEFLECTED BECAUSE WHITEY MAD THE COMMENT. THERE ARE FEWER BY FAR WHITE VIOLENT CRIMINALS IN THE PRISON SYSTEMS WHEN WHITES MAKE UP 75% OF THE POPULATION. What is to be done to help other races not commit violent crimes? I do not freaking know. BUT, my point is valid and I have given no reasoning to make me out to be a prejudice person. I did not say All Blacks or Mexicans are bad. I just said that Black and Mexican Criminals are responsible for most of the violent crimes in the US.

My whole thoughts on the Blacks and Mexicans is they need new leadership not chasing down the civil rights violators looking to get paid. Like Martin Luther Da King preached for equality and peace the leadership now has not evolved. Now they need leadership for creating jobs and values. I could be that leader. 2 problems,
#1 I have no cred to speak to the gang bangers and dealers (which the new leadership needs or they will be ignored)
#2 I am White. (Which means the new leadership should be black)

[Badace]

Well, I'll certainly pass on the ass kissing part. And I believe that the first amendment gives you the right to complain all you like, so feel free. I was just advocating a more constructive, productive approach. And you are right, I must be very stupid and naive because I absolutely think one person can make a huge difference, Who is ducking responsibility now? Did Christ or Buddha or Gandhi or Nelson Mandela or Robert Oppenheimer or Einstein change the course of human history? Absolutely!


If you do not like me Tower, I am sorry. I am not a bad person. Just pointing out an obvious problem with society. Yes this said something different before being edited. I was just posting by the seat of my pants. If the facts are disturbing to you, don't gripe at the messenger.

[Badace]

BTW, I have a good friend that is black. ;):dancingbanana:

[tower]

If you do not like me Tower, I am sorry. I am not a bad person. Just pointing out an obvious problem with society. Yes this said something different before being edited. I was just posting by the seat of my pants. If the facts are disturbing to you, don't gripe at the messenger.Badace, another faulty conclusion. If I truly did not like you, I promise you, I would not waste my time engaging in dialogue with you. I simply disagree with many of your conclusions. So you have pointed out the preponderance of minorities among criminals. And you have vented about it. So now what? If that was your sole purpose, then you have succeeded. Now what? If you truly are not advocating eradication of these people, what does "take them out of the equation" mean? "Take them out" and do exactly what with them? I am asking your thoughts, genuinely.

[DennisAJC]

BTW, I have a good friend that is black. ;):dancingbanana:


Oh man.:rolleyes:

I was admiring how you had stuck to your guns.

But like a true e-warrior, you feel a little heat, a drop in popularity, and out comes the canned response that bails you out and makes everything OK.:clapping:

[Badace]

Badace, another faulty conclusion. If I truly did not like you, I promise you, I would not waste my time engaging in dialogue with you. I simply disagree with many of your conclusions. So you have pointed out the preponderance of minorities among criminals. And you have vented about it. So now what? If that was your sole purpose, then you have succeeded. Now what? If you truly are not advocating eradication of these people, what does "take them out of the equation" mean? "Take them out" and do exactly what with them? I am asking your thoughts, genuinely.


I believe I have said take them out of the equation. Take out there numbers. Where did I say take them out of the world. Are you serious? The Violent crime that is done is usually mnority on minority. It has nothing to do with me. I am just saying look at the reality.

[Badace]

Oh man.:rolleyes:

I was admiring how you had stuck to your guns.

But like a true e-warrior, you feel a little heat, a drop in popularity, and out comes the canned response that bails you out and makes everything OK.:clapping:


I do believe I have been joking all the way through this trying to not let it get too serious. The only person bent out of shape is Tower. I have been quoting Ron Burgandy throughout. SO I try and let Tower cool down and all of the sudden I am an e-warrior. Tower tried to make me out to be a racist when I just pointed out a racial statistic in Regards to another senseless black on black crime. I backed every point I made up with statistical facts. Still it was twisted.

[DennisAJC]

I do believe I have been joking all the way through this trying to not let it get too serious. The only person bent out of shape is Tower. I have been quoting Ron Burgandy throughout. SO I try and let Tower cool down and all of the sudden I am an e-warrior. Tower tried to make me out to be a racist when I just pointed out a racial statistic in Regards to another senseless black on black crime. I backed every point I made up with statistical facts. Still it was twisted.

Tower does that to people. You can't take him seriously. Sometimes he's so high on his horse, his pee pee is not the only thing he can't see.






And if you think what I just said isn't right......I will fight you.:Dhttp://blogs.theage.com.au/lifestyle/asksam/ron.jpg






But if you're saying you're not a racist.....Well then you can't be part of the inner circle.:giggling:

[Badace]

Tower does that to people. You can't take him seriously. Sometimes he's so high on his horse, his pee pee is not the only thing he can't see.






And if you think what I just said isn't right......I will fight you.:Dhttp://blogs.theage.com.au/lifestyle/asksam/ron.jpg


You ara a smelly pirate hooker.



But if you're saying you're not a racist.....Well then you can't be part of the inner circle.:giggling:

I can learn to be a racist if Tower will teach me. :beerchug:

[DennisAJC]

I can learn to be a racist if Tower will teach me. :beerchug:
He can. Jews are the worst. Look at how they treat their identical twins the Palestinians.:jump:


Jason is gonna kill me when he reads this.:jump::jump::jump:

[KenP]

Sometimes he's so high on his horse, his pee pee is not the only thing he can't see.
HAHA!!! I thought you were talking about Bondage.:giggling:

[tower]

I believe I have said take them out of the equation. Take out there numbers. Where did I say take them out of the world. Are you serious? The Violent crime that is done is usually mnority on minority. It has nothing to do with me. I am just saying look at the reality."take them out of the equation. Take out there numbers."WTF does that mean? HOW will you take them out of the equation or take out their numbers? Are you saying you want to send Blacks to Africa or Latinos to Mexico or Dennis to Mars? Do you even have a clue as to WTF you are talking about?

[DRTYFN]

HAHA!!! I thought you were talking about Bondage.:giggling:
If he would have said gay, swash-buckling, Brokeback cowboy then he'd be referring to that grumpy old faggity-hoo.
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[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

He can. Jews are the worst. Look at how they treat their identical twins the Palestinians.:jump:


Jason is gonna kill me when he reads this.:jump::jump::jump:

gosh i hope not, maybe a 45acp to the knee and a big boat battery to the balls !!!

:jump: :jump: :jump:

[MarineHawk]

"take them out of the equation. Take out there numbers."WTF does that mean? HOW will you take them out of the equation or take out their numbers? Are you saying you want to send Blacks to Africa or Latinos to Mexico or Dennis to Mars? Do you even have a clue as to WTF you are talking about?

He's basically correct. If you statistically omit the 54% of the murders ocurring in the U.S. by a particular 12% segment of the population (blacks), the crime rates in the U.S. fall to one of the lowest in the world. That does not even omit other minority crime, which is also higher than the national average. It's a troubling reality. Aside from who is at fault or whose ancestors were at fault, we need to address the issue. I think it's clear that the primary reason is that a large percentage of blacks grow up in the inner cities and more than 1/2 of them do not have a traditional family with a decent father as a role model. Too many black kids have gansters as role models because they have no father around. Some of our nonsensical solcialist policies of the 70s, 80s, and much of the 90s (e.g., giving greater welfare benefits to poor women who divorce the fathers of their children) are partly to blame. I've read some studies over the past few years showing that blacks who grow up in traditional families have incomes within a few percentage points of average white people.

Asians with law degrees make more on the average than whites with a J.D. Whites make more than blacks. It's not because the law firms are all run by Asians. It's because Asians on average (exception = Dennis) have very solid teachings in the family about the value of being respectful and working hard. When I rarely used to go to the science, engineering, or main libraries at the the university I attended on a Friday or Saturday evening, the people there studying were primarily Asian, there were a few whites, and no blacks. Aside from intelligence and appearance (both of which are signifcant factors in predicting success), how you act and how you treat others is, IMO, hugely a factor of what values you learn in your family. Too many blacks kids need better families. Cosby's right on that one:


Ladies and gentlemen, the lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal. These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids -- $500 sneakers for what? And won't spend $200 for "Hooked on Phonics." . . .

They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' . . . And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk. . . . Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. . . . You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth! ..

These are not political criminals. These are people going around stealing Coca-Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake and then we run out and we are outraged, [saying] "The cops shouldn't have shot him." What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37869-2004May18.html

[h2co-pilot]

He's basically correct. If you statistically omit the 54% of the murders ocurring in the U.S. by a particular 12% segment of the population (blacks), the crime rates in the U.S. fall to one of the lowest in the world. That does not even omit other minority crime, which is also higher than the national average. It's a troubling reality. Aside from who is at fault or whose ancestors were at fault, we need to address the issue. I think it's clear that the primary reason is that a large percentage of blacks grow up in the inner cities and more than 1/2 of them do not have a traditional family with a decent father as a role model. Too many black kids have gansters as role models because they have no father around. Some of our nonsensical solcialist policies of the 70s, 80s, and much of the 90s (e.g., giving greater welfare benefits to poor women who divorce the fathers of their children) are partly to blame. I've read some studies over the past few years showing that blacks who grow up in traditional families have incomes within a few percentage points of average white people.

Asians with law degrees make more on the average than whites with a J.D. Whites make more than blacks. It's not because the law firms are all run by Asians. It's because Asians on average (exception = Dennis) have very solid teachings in the family about the value of being respectful and working hard. When I rarely used to go to the science, engineering, or main libraries at the the university I attended on a Friday or Saturday evening, the people there studying were primarily Asian, there were a few whites, and no blacks. Aside from intelligence and appearance (both of which are signifcant factors in predicting success), how you act and how you treat others is, IMO, hugely a factor of what values you learn in your family. Too many blacks kids need better families. Cosby's right on that one:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37869-2004May18.html

I totally agree and have been flabbergasted at the overall "minority" response to Bill Cosby versus they're response to Jackson/Sharpton.

It's easier to be a victim. (this could be repeated over and over)

And if it is indeed just "economics" then we need to find the reason why certain minority groups continue to have economic difficulty. Why do they continue to be economically challenged even through decades of government assistance/youth programs etc? Much more so than other groups historically.

My great great grandparents were immigrants and farmers. My grandfather was an artist and my grandmother played the organ at church- my father is an oral and maxillofacial surgeon and has done well for himself.

Point being, many other 'groups" have pulled through to live the American dream, pursuing their own happiness and prospered.

Labeling yourrself/certain groups a victim or being illegal can certainly damper the ambition.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

I just drove my daughter to work (her cars in the shop) and had to drive past his house...

all sorts of media vans still there...its like a circus...

[Agriv8r]

I can learn to be a racist if Tower will teach me. :beerchug:

too much crap to try and respond to it all...but i think this is the biggest lie you have told....you are already there..i do have a question from an earlier post though...i am not overly religous, not sure if i BELIEVE or not, but how do you try a religion?....did you try to believe and it was to hard...as it appears to be something you can not see or hold, it seems the basic concept of religion is belief.....

[Agriv8r]

There is a reason The Christians love and help Protect the Jews. (And Israel) Not that Israel cant defend itself. I am getting ready to start a conversion to Catholocism with my wife and kids. We have tried lots of different religions. Catholics have such a connection with the religion and it actually has given me a nice appreciation for the Jewish people. No other religion truly made me feel a kin to the Jewish religion and old school religion. Plus you can drink in public. How cool is that. No alter boy jokes please. Know the stories, and I feel the priests that did that should be strung up by their wankers. But I never have read the doctrine about Boy love. I did hear about it on a South Park episode, but never have I seen it in real life.

in case you forgot, this is the one...

[Agriv8r]

It may influence it but IT DOES NOT FNG EXCUSE IT! BTW F U and my upbringing. My Mom suffered a long bout with Leukemia and my dad left my sister and I when I was 15. So go F yourself and talk ab out what are facts and not assumptions. THis just in you are a FNAH!

oh yeah....boo frickedy whoooo...we all have our trials and tests that made us who we are ....you ramble for pages about all the bad races in america and then wet your panties over "priveledged upbringing"....just a little sensitive for someone with such critical views, dontcha think.....

[MarineHawk]

BTW, this is one of my favorite verses:

"A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things."

Ecclesiastes 10:19 - http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes%2010%20;&version=9;

Seriously, I love that one.

[MarineHawk]

BTW, Denis: I forgot to add the icon here:

... It's because Asians on average (exception = Dennis:fdance:) have very solid teachings in the family about the value of being respectful and working hard. ...

... to let you know that I am just joshing and have the highest respect for your far-Eastern thinking and manners.:D

[DennisAJC]

BTW, Denis: I forgot to add the icon here:



... to let you know that I am just joshing and have the highest respect for your far-Eastern thinking and manners.:D


HAHA!!!! What es respect? :fdance::beerchug:

[TXSUT]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7499442

[tower]

Finally, some common ground. MH and H2-CP, I agree completely that the solution to these difficult issues is better parenting. That being said, how can you get out of parents that which their parents never put in? (e.g. respect for self and others, reverence for education, moral values, etc.) How do we break this cycle? Blaming the kids won't do it. Blaming the parents won't do it. I think we kneed to educate parents. As I stated once on a very old thread, one needs a license to legally ride a bike on a city street or own a dog or drive a car, but practically any pair of fukking idiots can spawn a child (as long as their genders differ). No need to know anything about child rearing or anything else. I think that if most parents knew ahead of time how things that they did would affect their kids later in life, most would parent a lot better. We are the fortunate ones. We had role models that worked to our advantage. JMHO.

[wpage]

"Let Brotherly Love Continue"
Hebrews 13
:raar:

[KenP]

3 detained:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBN_REDSKINS_TAYLOR_SLAIN?SITE=VANOV&SECTION=HOME

Awaiting news conference.

[tower]

4 suspects in custody.

[KenP]

4 suspects in custody.Even better.

[NewHummerGuy]

They also have confessions from more than one. I was so looking forward to watching Taylor and Landry for years to come.:crying:

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

and i thought O.J. did it...same town...about 15 minutes apart

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