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H2Finally
08-25-2005, 06:56 PM
Upgraded my 35" spare to 37"MT/R (thanks partsguy! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif). But now HALF of my backup camera is covered by the tire!! I can't relocate the camera cause it's gonna leave a big hole in my bumper! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif Worse, if I use the soft tire cover, it covers 3/4 of the camera!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

WHAT TO DO???

H2Finally
08-25-2005, 06:56 PM
Upgraded my 35" spare to 37"MT/R (thanks partsguy! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif). But now HALF of my backup camera is covered by the tire!! I can't relocate the camera cause it's gonna leave a big hole in my bumper! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif Worse, if I use the soft tire cover, it covers 3/4 of the camera!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

WHAT TO DO???

Hummer Guy
08-25-2005, 07:13 PM
You could put a pariscope on it...just imagine your camera is that little boys eyes... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Klaus
08-25-2005, 07:19 PM
Just remount the camera and cover up the hole with some chrome flames! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

CslRkH2
08-25-2005, 07:23 PM
Buy a new bumper

KenP
08-25-2005, 07:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CslRkH2:
Buy a new bumper </div></BLOCKQUOTE>A chrome one. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

4churchill
08-25-2005, 07:43 PM
Why dint you leave the current camera inplace but disconnect it then re ount a new on. It will look trick, but also serve the purpose of filling the hole.

ChuckE
08-25-2005, 07:50 PM
Pariscope...

H2Finally
08-25-2005, 10:30 PM
Churchill, thanks for the real sugestion (the rest of yous can KISS MY ASS! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif), 'cept I can't figure out where else to drill. It's center and as low as possible already (see pic).. Btw, that's the 35" MTR. The 37" sits lower still... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Screeper
08-25-2005, 10:51 PM
Buy a spare tire mount extension. Then cut it in half and weld in a plate that will raise your spare about two inches. Any machine shop or better garage should be able to do it in short order. Had to do the same thing with an old jeep I had so that I could use the hitch. Hope it helps.

PARAGON
08-25-2005, 11:05 PM
Is it really blocking you from seeing or do just not like seeing the tire.

You could fashion a piece of sheet metal that would bolt (with a large bolt and washer) in the current hole and let the metal come down to the top of the hitch and mount the camera in that sheet metal.

PARAGON
08-25-2005, 11:07 PM
I would get a new bumper because the hole that's there is off-center. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

H2Finally
08-25-2005, 11:33 PM
Screeper, I googled spare tire extentions. While I like the 2" rise, not sure about the 2" back.

edit: Wont work! Damn! The SMA carrier has that "pipe" middle section (where you can attach a padlock)... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Is it really blocking you from seeing or do just not like seeing the tire. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>It's blocking it to the point of being useless.

Not sure about attaching any sheet metal on my beautiful, recently detailed http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif PEWTER POWER!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif rig...

Btw, Para... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dug
08-25-2005, 11:36 PM
h2finally, thats only a little piss ant hole , cant you put in a black rubber plug or something to fill the hole?

H2Finally
08-25-2005, 11:43 PM
No, the question is where can I put the new hole/camera? Below the current hole, the bumper "bend" inwards. Anywhere off-center, I think I'll have a vertigo-inducing image due to the 110degrees field of vision..

Dug
08-25-2005, 11:45 PM
oh ya , i see your problem

PARAGON
08-25-2005, 11:56 PM
Umm... Sheet metal is all the bumper is made from. You simply paint it black and it will blend with the bumper if you cut it and form it right. Kills 2 birds with one stone.

On my camera, which is not installed yet because we are going to use it in Moab, there are some offset rings that allow you to adjust the angle. So, you move the camera over and it will be slightly angled inboard. I don't like it because it will make hooking up to a trailer useless with the camera.

So, I am go to have a piece of metal made to fill the gap just above the hitch (between your current postion and the hitch) and mount the camera in it.

H2Finally
08-25-2005, 11:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
So, I am go to have a piece of metal made to fill the gap just above the hitch (between your current postion and the hitch) and mount the camera in it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Make 2...? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dan
08-26-2005, 08:50 AM
Oh look, here's a plug that's not doing anything. Just remove it and mount the camera there! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Dick Renaud
08-26-2005, 10:33 AM
Plug the hole and use the marker light cam
http://www.gstyle4u.com/.sc/ms/dd/1064352504935431/9/nc...003-04%20HUMMER%20H2 (http://www.gstyle4u.com/.sc/ms/dd/1064352504935431/9/nc--^202http^3A^2F^2Felcova^2Ecom^2F6^2Fubb^2Ex^3Fa^3D tpc^26s^3D2826088551^26f^3D5106011751^26m^3D577609 2955/Audio%20%26%20Video/98/H2CAM%20WITH%20MONITOR%20^2F%2003-04%20HUMMER%20H2)

PARAGON
08-26-2005, 10:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dan:
Oh look, here's a plug that's not doing anything. Just remove it and mount the camera there! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PARAGON
08-26-2005, 10:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dick Renaud:
Plug the hole and use the marker light cam </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Too much of the view is blocked by the spare for me. If I am going to stick a camera back there I want it to be able to make it easy to back to a trailer.

PARAGON
08-26-2005, 10:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2Finally:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
So, I am go to have a piece of metal made to fill the gap just above the hitch (between your current postion and the hitch) and mount the camera in it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Make 2...? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Not before Moab. I am on a "need to have done" basis right now. Some of my little projects are getting put on hold because I need to put my truck back together and I need to replace the tie rods.

Remember a 1 hour project is likely to take a week for me these days. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

kdio
08-26-2005, 11:31 AM
I was thinking of mounting a camera on the rear tire carrier. If you mount the camera in the center of the rim (depending on what style rims you have) you can modify the cap so that the camera sticks out of it. I would think this would be the best location for visibility. I would run the wires to the camera on the back of the tire carrrier, like the SUT tire carrier runs the lights for the license plate.

Fubar
08-26-2005, 01:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dick Renaud:
Plug the hole and use the marker light cam
<A HREF="http://www.gstyle4u.com/.sc/ms/dd/1064352504935431/9/nc--^202http^3A^2F^2Felcova^2Ecom^2F6^2Fubb^2Ex^3Fa^3D tpc^26s^3D2826088551^26f^3D5106011751^26m^3D577609 2955/Audio%20%26%20Video/98/H2CAM%20WITH%20MONITOR%20^2F%2003-04%20HUMMER%20H2" TARGET=_blank>http://www.gstyle4u.com/.sc/ms/dd/1064352504935431/9/
nc...003-04%20HUMMER%20H2</A> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



Sadly the marker light cam's are not worth a **** especially with an over size tire. With the stock tire on the carrier all you see is the back and top of the tire then out to infinity. It would be worse with a 37inch tire in place. No amount of adjustment of the marker light cam will allow you to see what is below the tire i.e the hitch if you're backing up a trailer or a childs bike parked just behind the tire. It's useless in my opinion.

H2Finally have you considered a hitch cam? It doesn't solve your problem of the hole in your bummper if you remeove the cam that is there unless you leave the cam where it is and simply unhook it or run both video feeds to your display and switch them to whichever view you want to see. I'm not sure how exactly that could be done but I'm certain that it is possible.

PARAGON
08-26-2005, 01:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fubar00:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dick Renaud:
Plug the hole and use the marker light cam
<A HREF="http://www.gstyle4u.com/.sc/ms/dd/1064352504935431/9/nc--^202http^3A^2F^2Felcova^2Ecom^2F6^2Fubb^2Ex^3Fa^3D tpc^26s^3D2826088551^26f^3D5106011751^26m^3D577609 2955/Audio%20%26%20Video/98/H2CAM%20WITH%20MONITOR%20^2F%2003-04%20HUMMER%20H2" TARGET=_blank>http://www.gstyle4u.com/.sc/ms/dd/1064352504935431/9/
nc...003-04%20HUMMER%20H2</A> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



Sadly the marker light cam's are not worth a **** especially with an over size tire. With the stock tire on the carrier all you see is the back and top of the tire then out to infinity. It would be worse with a 37inch tire in place. No amount of adjustment of the marker light cam will allow you to see what is below the tire i.e the hitch if you're backing up a trailer or a childs bike parked just behind the tire. It's useless in my opinion.

H2Finally have you considered a hitch cam? It doesn't solve your problem of the hole in your bummper if you remeove the cam that is there unless you leave the cam where it is and simply unhook it or run both video feeds to your display and switch them to whichever view you want to see. I'm not sure how exactly that could be done but I'm certain that it is possible. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Simple video switcher from radio shack

KenP
08-26-2005, 02:17 PM
H2F, I'll send you my perfect bumper so you won't have to worry about patching the hole. Just send me yours, with the camera and wires still attached. Then you don't need to worry about the new mounting location, either. We'll kill both birds at once. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

H2Finally
08-26-2005, 02:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
H2F, I'll send you my perfect bumper so you won't have to worry about patching the hole. Just send me yours, with the camera and wires still attached. Then you don't need to worry about the new mounting location, either. We'll kill both birds at once. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Only if the Lingenfelter is attached to it!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Fubar, mine was originally installed in the hitch location, but it seemed that I test the departure angle quite a bit. At one offroad event, I dragged the hitch over a (BIG) rock, and the hitch cam mount was destroyed.. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Kdio, I'll consider your suggestion! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mr. Jeep
08-27-2005, 12:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2Finally:
Upgraded my 35" spare to 37"MT/R (thanks partsguy! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif). But now HALF of my backup camera is covered by the tire!! I can't relocate the camera cause it's gonna leave a big hole in my bumper! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif Worse, if I use the soft tire cover, it covers 3/4 of the camera!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

WHAT TO DO??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

______________________________________________

You think someone would have thought of this dilemna before you changed everything??!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

You know, some people only have one usable eye and they get along pretty well! Atleast you have a partial camera! We have to get out of the f**kn thing and spot each other! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dick Renaud
08-27-2005, 06:01 PM
Another option for the camera
http://www.mitocorp.com/flash/backupcameras_licenseframe_specs.htm

wilfred
08-28-2005, 08:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2Finally:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
H2F, I'll send you my perfect bumper so you won't have to worry about patching the hole. Just send me yours, with the camera and wires still attached. Then you don't need to worry about the new mounting location, either. We'll kill both birds at once. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Only if the Lingenfelter is attached to it!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Fubar, mine was originally installed in the hitch location, but it seemed that I test the departure angle quite a bit. At one offroad event, I dragged the hitch over a (BIG) rock, and the hitch cam mount was destroyed.. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Kdio, I'll consider your suggestion! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

H2Finally, i don't know what kind of hitch cam did you have but i can take some pics of mine (homemade http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ) tomorrow. I don't think mine will affect the departure angle and the cap itself was like $10-$15 @ autozone, not including the camera of course.

wilfred
08-28-2005, 04:36 PM
Here's mine, the cover was chrome but i painted it.

wilfred
08-28-2005, 04:41 PM
another shot