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DRTYFN
01-13-2004, 09:48 PM
At long last I've got some pics of our hidden winch bumper system. It just came back from the powdercoater, where it was coated with BK-01.
As soon as they're available to the public I'll let you guys know.
My next project is rockbar extenders.

ps. It holds a 12,000lbs winch.
pps. I'll have one on my rig for Moab. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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DRTYFN
01-13-2004, 09:48 PM
At long last I've got some pics of our hidden winch bumper system. It just came back from the powdercoater, where it was coated with BK-01.
As soon as they're available to the public I'll let you guys know.
My next project is rockbar extenders.

ps. It holds a 12,000lbs winch.
pps. I'll have one on my rig for Moab. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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DRTYFN
01-13-2004, 09:48 PM
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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DRTYFN
01-13-2004, 09:49 PM
With our fairlead.

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DRTYFN
01-13-2004, 09:50 PM
It only extends out from the stock bumper about 2 1/2".

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DRTYFN
01-13-2004, 09:51 PM
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Detonate
01-13-2004, 10:17 PM
Very nice. One of the better designs I've seen.

How do you work on it, if you get a cable bind?

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DRTYFN
01-13-2004, 10:46 PM
Like you do with any other winch- unwind it and start over.
I'm pushing for us to use synthetic rope so we can use the Haas(sp?) fairlead. I've found some 3/8" rope that's rated to 20,000lbs.

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Steve R
01-14-2004, 12:23 AM
Super-sweet Drty.....almost to the point of "where's the winch???"!!!!

Some nice under-belly sliders and extended rock-rails would be sweet too!

Kevin B
01-14-2004, 01:19 AM
How does it mount to the frame? Are you going to leave the quick disconnect or is that just for test fitting. Looks like you did an awsome job, congrats http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

alecs wife
01-14-2004, 01:48 AM
I want to buy one NOW!!!!! That thing is AWSOME!!!!!! PLEASE HURRY UP WITH THE UNDERBODY PROTECTION!!!!!

R2

Front Locker, Stealth winch, 37" Super Swampers SSR,low center of gravity = Ultimate H2

MAC
01-14-2004, 02:00 AM
Drtyfn, that is very professionally done, the best I've seen.
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif What is it? what do you do with it? I can see some logic if you can push a button, it shoots out and attaches itself to the semi in front, then you just glide your way to Los Angeles, that will be the best energy saving contraption since sex. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

FrgMstr
01-14-2004, 03:15 AM
That kicks more ass than a barrel of monkeys hopped up on smack. I want one...

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Longhorn
01-14-2004, 05:24 PM
It looks great! I would like one when they're ready. Is it designed for the Warn 12000lb winch? I think a 12000lb winch makes a lot more sense for a truck our size. Is the Haas piece a roller fairlead?

Keep up the quality custom fabrication.

czar
01-15-2004, 01:26 PM
wow! I am very interested in this solution.

drouke
01-15-2004, 02:41 PM
Is seeing a winch on the front of your rig that much of a problem?

DRTYFN
01-15-2004, 03:12 PM
I have the cradle with a Warn 9500Ti and it is sort of unsightly. From an offroading perspective, it's a major liability. Approach angle is seriously handicapped and I'm always worrying about damaging the fairlead rollers, winch or cradle extension when 4xing. On the Rubicon I passed on a few obstacles because of it.
This bumper will not only allow you to use a 12,000lbs winch without compromising the approach angle of the H2, but it looks good, too.
To be honest, when we first started the project I wasn't going to keep the bumper on my rig after we were done. But after seeing how great the final product turned out I can't wait to have one.

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Afreet
01-15-2004, 03:28 PM
I really like that bumper/winch setup. How does one get around the requirement of having a front license plate? Is there a frame for it or is there some regulatory loophole that I can use to get around it?

DRTYFN
01-15-2004, 03:48 PM
Since I'm such a license plate scofflaw we didn't worry about that. We're going to come up with a bracket that slips over the front of the fairlead.
You could try telling the cop you're the Ambassador to Slovokia.

...damn front plates anyway...mumble mumble mumble...

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Cranky Steve
01-15-2004, 03:50 PM
Very nice! Can a roller fairlead be used or does it stick out to far?

I made this mount for my Front Licnse plate to snap on a roller fairlead:

Front View, Base piece is 22ga Steel, Mag light clips installed with SS 10-32x1/2" Button Heads, Marson 1/4-20 Threaedserts installed for the plate

Back side showing the clips, SS 10-32 Nylocks
http://www.rivercityrockcrawlers.com/web_pages/Steve/pics/lic_clip_2.jpg

http://www.rivercityrockcrawlers.com/web_pages/Steve/pics/lic_clip_3.jpg

Side view Installed
http://www.rivercityrockcrawlers.com/web_pages/Steve/pics/lic_clip_4.jpg

Keep in mind, my setup is much higher up than the hidden system Drty's Company designed. But the concept could be easily modified for a Hawse setup. I have seen a very cool one that hinges as well

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H2Oguy
01-15-2004, 07:36 PM
Nice work DRTYFN. Looks like a winner!

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1BADH2
01-15-2004, 07:41 PM
I want one!!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

DRTYFN
01-15-2004, 08:01 PM
Cranky,
That's pretty close to what we'll end up using.

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Zyx5432
01-16-2004, 12:37 AM
Hey DRTY, what do you think you will charge for the new work of art?

DRTYFN
01-16-2004, 06:01 AM
Not sure yet. We're trying to work out a deal with MileMarker for the winches and GM for the bumpers.
I'll post on the price soon.

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alecs wife
01-17-2004, 12:33 AM
Do you have that price!!!!! I want one now!!! Great let us now soon. Great job.

R2

Front Locker, Stealth winch, 37" Super Swampers SSR,low center of gravity = Ultimate H2

Dedo-man
01-17-2004, 01:43 PM
DRTYFN,
I know you have spoke about this before, but whats the story on your rims? I like them, cant remember if you ordered or powder coated????????... very nice look for Pewter.... phenominal job on the winch also!!!!

DRTYFN
01-19-2004, 02:21 AM
Sorry guys. I'll get some pricing for you as soon as we get some details nailed down with MileMarker. The winch we're using needs a slight modification for us to use. A slight rotation of the casing & a slightly different clutch handle. We also need to discuss whether or not we will be able to sell to the public while we're waiting for AMGeneral to make a decision. I'm might be able to do it just for the forum members.
On a side note, we've also got another bumper that we're working on. I'll post pics after it's been to the powdercoater and installed for pics.

Next up: rockbar extensions and roof rack.

Dedo, I had them done. They were done with a BK-05. The next set is getting shot with a BK-08 because it's a more durable coating and it's more of a matte finish. 05 is great, too, but more of a semi-gloss finish.

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frank6150
01-19-2004, 09:36 AM
DRTY I am hoping my rims will be done today, the guy said he would work on them through the weekend so hopefully they will be finished.

I had to pick my own shade of black cause that BK number didn't help him at all. He said he would need the universal AR number for the paint color cause he didn't know what brand of paint your guy used to get that number. I think I picked a more flat finish but hell if I remember. I will post pics and the AR number today if I get them.

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DRTYFN
01-19-2004, 03:48 PM
Frank,
Hmmm....? BK is just the color denotation before the finish number. Pretty universal.
Did he go through all of the PC's with you and explain durability and finishes?
Can't wait to see another convert.
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I feel like a religious leader. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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frank6150
01-19-2004, 07:02 PM
I just got home with the rims, I wanted to put them on today but I am very tired and didn't feel like waiting for them to get done. Also the truck is extremely dirty so I would like to wash it a bit first, maybe tomorrow weather permitting. Anywho, here are 2 pics..

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frank6150
01-19-2004, 07:03 PM
2

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Spike
01-19-2004, 07:14 PM
Frank,
The rims look great. Let us know how they hold up. Also there was a debate a while back concerning beadblasting and if it was necessary prior to powder coating. Did you have them beadblasted? Also how long did the job take and what did it cost?

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frank6150
01-19-2004, 07:20 PM
I forget what he used to blast the rims but yes he did blast them to knock the finish off the rims to get down to the paint. Then he stripped the paint off the rims, cleaned them up and did the deed. According to him he wouldn't suggest not blasting the rims, you can do it other ways but you need to at least have the finish taken off for the powder coat to adhere to.

Total cost for me getting the rims and having them done is $525.00. $425.00 of that being the powder coating. I am sure I paid a little more than most people but I live in the middle of nowhere and finding someone to do this work was like trying to schedule an appointment to meet the president. I am very satisfied and could care less if I paid $100 or whatever more than others. I dropped the rims off Thursday evening and he had them ready to go today when I got there so it didn't take long.

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DennisAJC
01-19-2004, 07:27 PM
**** they look good Frank!

DRTY,

Did you guys get a design patent or something?
GM would be stupid not to go for that ideal. But you might do way better selling direct as an aftermarket.

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10 MPG
01-20-2004, 12:30 AM
Frank,
Can I ask where you got a set of rims for $100? Thanks. I might do the same with my pewter 2003.

frank6150
01-20-2004, 02:56 PM
I got them on Ebay. I may have gotten lucky since most of the sets that are even $100 have a hefty shipping cost. I saw a set the other day for $80 plus $35 to ship which is a damn good deal as well. Just search for H2 wheels.

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DRTYFN
01-20-2004, 03:23 PM
Those look great!!! Now for your center caps...
If you have access to a small bead blaster then lightly blast the caps. Clean them thoroughly and rattle-can them with a primer designed specifically for plastic. Amazingly, the primer that was recommended was white??? It works great though. If you can, bring your wheel into the store and ask for the closest possible match. Home Depot is a really great place to find the spray paint.

Welcome to the Black Wheel Club!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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frank6150
01-20-2004, 03:27 PM
I'm not so sure I want my center caps on. Since I am a die-hard cult follower of you DRTY I feel the only way to truly become one with the master is to leave mine off as you have done http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

I never much liked the cheap ass plastic caps anyway.

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DRTYFN
01-23-2004, 02:03 AM
Ok, after much discussion we have decided to sell these bumpers to you guys instead of waiting for the most likely lengthy decision process of GM.
They will be $1599 plus shipping. The bumper will be powdercoated black with BK-05.

PM me for details.

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frank6150
01-23-2004, 02:38 AM
I think I have developed A.D.D. so I will ask the question again since reading back I didn't understand a damn thing.

Will that work for the Warn 9000ti whatever winch? I would hate to have to buy another winch since I just got this one.

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DRTYFN
01-23-2004, 04:22 AM
I emailed Jason about that very subject tonight.

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alecs wife
01-27-2004, 03:43 PM
Does the price include the winch?

Front Locker, Stealth winch, 37" Super Swampers SSR,low center of gravity = Ultimate H2

DRTYFN
01-28-2004, 05:39 AM
Nope. Just the bumper. But you can find the MM 12K online for $599. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Detonate
01-28-2004, 11:24 AM
If you like this style of hidden winches, there is one that will fit a WARN winch if you already have one:
http://www.breathlessperformance.com/products/Hidden-winch-web-large4.jpg
http://www.breathlessperformance.com/products/Hummer%20Hidden%20Winch.asp

Personally I think Mile Markers are 100x's better, especially the hydraulics...

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2003 Red H2 equipped with Tough Country Heavy Duty Armor Series Front End with Winch, Rear Bumper, Brush Guard, and Roof Rack.

alecs wife
02-04-2004, 12:47 AM
Have you heard of STM?

Front Locker, Stealth winch, 37" Super Swampers SSR,low center of gravity = Ultimate H2