How much did you actually pay (any discount)?

[BillCh]

Hi Guys,

quick question as I intend going shopping tomorrow ;-)

Did you pay full price for your H3 or how much did you get off (in $ and/or %) and where?

Thx for your input.

BillCh

[BillCh]

Hi Guys,

quick question as I intend going shopping tomorrow ;-)

Did you pay full price for your H3 or how much did you get off (in $ and/or %) and where?

Thx for your input.

BillCh

[Matt5462]

They didn't discount the mrsp for us, but they did pay $1500 over KKB for my trade in. You might want to try that approach

[BillCh]

Thx for the hint!

As I am in the US since a week, I do not have a car to trade in.

Btw, until today I always was jumping between Dodge RAM, Durango and Magnum, and since this morning when my spouse figured hey it would be cool to have a Hummer I went to a dealer and liked it.

I want the H3 although it is 10k more than the actual Dodge (Magnum) I thought (this morning at 8) I would go for, but I do not want to be too much of a fool paying list price while everybody gets family and whatsoever discounts (unfortuantelly not for the H3).

BillCh

[Hummer Guy]

Where are you from, Bill?

[Marc H3]

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">I got my H3 at GMS pricing. I know there a many dealers that are not giving out GMS. </span>

[Hummer Guy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Marc H3:
<span class="ev_code_BLUE">I got my H3 at GMS pricing. I know there a many dealers that are not giving out GMS. </span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But you are a true GM employee, no?

[Marc H3]

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">Yes that would be correct. Only GM employees get GMS on 2006 vehicles... well for right now anyways. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif</span>

[richk]

I got $400 off MSRP from White's Mountain Hummer in Casper, WY.

[Marc H3]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by richk:
I got $400 off MSRP from White's Mountain Hummer in Casper, WY. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><span class="ev_code_BLUE">Believe it or not I have seen many go for MSRP and as much as $4,000 over. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif</span>

[Hummer Guy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Marc H3:
<span class="ev_code_BLUE">Yes that would be correct. Only GM employees get GMS on 2006 vehicles... well for right now anyways. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif</span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just wanted to clarify for everyone else reading -- you wouldn't believe the calls we get and the posts asking about GMS for H3s. Its a pretty sweet deal if you can get it.

[Jersey Guy]

MSRP 35,459 AFTER GMS 32,461 $3000 IN SAVINGS SO I ADDED THE ROOF MARKER LIGHTS AND CHROME TUBE STEPS DEALER CHARGED 1,200 EXTRA INCLUDING INSTALL WHEN ALL SAID AND DONE 33,661 PLUS TAX.

[f5fstop]

There does seem to be some confusion about GM Supplier Discount, GM In the Driveway (GMID) and GM employee discount (GMS). Probably due to the "S" after GM.

GM Supplier Vehicle Purchase Program (SVPP) allows active employees of an eligible GM supplier to receive a discount that is approximately 2% above invoice.


GMID or GM In the Driveway, is a program GM started a year ago that allows any GM employee (salary or hourly) to obtain two authorization numbers per month for anyone to purchase a GM vehicle. The authorization number cannot be given to anyone who is eligible for the actual GM employee discount.

Either of these two discounts can be used on the vehicles excluded from the employee pricing offer that GM is currently running. These excluded vehicles are:
2005 Corvettes
2005 GTOs
All Medium Trucks
Any vehicle other than a 2005 (that is why the H3 is excluded, it is a 2006 model year).

GM employees are eligible for two different types of discounts:

GM New Vehicle & Company-Owned Vehicle Purchase Programs (NVPP & COVPP)

The COVPP (Company Owned Vehicle Purchase Program) allows active, retired, employees on disability or approved absence (for a period of 12 months) to purchase a new GM driven company car at a large discount that depends on the mileage of the vehicle. (Good example is a few years ago, I purchased a 2001 Corvette with 2900 miles for 35K, and it had a sticker of about 49K.) Spouses and surviving spouses are also eligible for this program.

NVPP (New Vehicle Purchase Program...AKA GMS) allows GM employees, and the following sponsored family members: spouses, surviving spouses, children, siblings (including full/half and step), in-laws (father/mother/brother/sister) and grandchildren; to obtain a GM vehicle at approximately 2% below invoice.

One reason this is called GMS is years ago, GM offered GMO and GMS to their employees. GMO had a greater discount, but it had to be ordered; therefore, it was called GMO, "O" for ordered. The other program at that time was GMS, and it allowed GM employees to purchase a vehicle that was in dealer stock, but the discount was not as good as GMO. The "S" stood for Stock.
A few years ago, GM did away with the GMO and consolidated it what was called GMS.
Dealers and employees still refer to it as GMS, even though it is really known as NVPP.
Some people also started referring to the GM supplier discount as GMS, but that is really incorrect.

SVPP (supplier discount), GMID, and GMS are up to the dealer to accept. They can refuse to sell to anyone on these discounts since the do not make as big of a profit on these vehicles, and in some cases they have been paying floor plan interest on a vehicle a supplier or employee wants to purchase.

Some dealers will accept GMID or supplier discounts but not employee discounts since the dealer makes more money on the supplier and GMID than they do on the employee discount.

The company owned vehicle purchase program can be refused by a dealer too; however, a dealer is foolish to do so, since the dealer is never charged for the vehicle, and the dealer makes 5% of the MSRP for handling the transaction. All the dealer is required to do is pick the car up (if out of state, the employee has to pay the shipping charges), wash the vehicle, and hopefully, change the oil.

Now, are we all confused?

[Hummer Guy]

This should be a required read for all potential Hummer owners...and it should be added that Sewell will always honor GMS and GM Supplier discounts to those who qualify. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[H3OH]

I started out on the Edmunds forums and came across a GM employee handing out the GMID discounts. I got one of those and used it on my purchase.

It was great when I picked up my H3...

Sales guy, "How did you get that price on the H3? That is the lowest I've seen it go for."

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[mstams]

So GMID is allowed on the H3. Is this correct? For some reason I thought it was (also on the corvette), but that seems to contradict the write-up above.

[f5fstop]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mstams:
So GMID is allowed on the H3. Is this correct? For some reason I thought it was (also on the corvette), but that seems to contradict the write-up above. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
If you mean my write up, read again:

GMID or GM In the Driveway, is a program GM started a year ago that allows any GM employee (salary or hourly) to obtain two authorization numbers per month for anyone to purchase a GM vehicle. The authorization number cannot be given to anyone who is eligible for the actual GM employee discount.

Either of these two discounts can be used on the vehicles excluded from the employee pricing offer that GM is currently running. These excluded vehicles are:
2005 Corvettes
2005 GTOs
All Medium Trucks
Any vehicle other than a 2005 (that is why the H3 is excluded, it is a 2006 model year).

In other words, yes the GMID and supplier discount program CAN be used on the purchase of a Corvette, GTO and Hummer H3, etc. Major problem is a dealer has to accept the discount and whether they do or not is their perogative.
GMS (NVPP) can also be used on a H3 (or Corvette or GTO), if a dealer will accept the discount.

[Marc H3]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jersey Guy:
MSRP 35,459 AFTER GMS 32,461 $3000 IN SAVINGS SO I ADDED THE ROOF MARKER LIGHTS AND CHROME TUBE STEPS DEALER CHARGED 1,200 EXTRA INCLUDING INSTALL WHEN ALL SAID AND DONE 33,661 PLUS TAX. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><span class="ev_code_BLUE">Not having my deal right in front of me I recall my H3 MSRP was few hundred below $38,000.00 and my GM emoployee pricing or GMS was approx. $32,950.00 nearly $5,000 off.

Thus I am not sure why yours was discounted only $3,000. Although it might depend more on my optional equipment which is discounted more than the base unit discount is. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif</span>

[Jersey Guy]

out standing great deal i dont understand this crap about GMS i just know my wife qualifies for this and she doesnt even work for gm nor is a relative. her company gives an option for GM vehicals and the Ford X plan which i saved about 5000 on my Mustang Cobra .i was as two dealers and they both came up with the same bottom price within $200 or so that came too 3000 off

[H3Witch]

Ordered mine at GMS (employee)...should save about $4000.

[mstams]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by f5fstop:

If you mean my write up, read again:

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep. That's what I had orginially thought.

Sorry for the misread... And nice write-up, by the way!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[f5fstop]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jersey Guy:
out standing great deal i dont understand this crap about GMS i just know my wife qualifies for this and she doesnt even work for gm nor is a relative. her company gives an option for GM vehicals and the Ford X plan which i saved about 5000 on my Mustang Cobra .i was as two dealers and they both came up with the same bottom price within $200 or so that came too 3000 off </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Simple, if your wife works for an outside supplier she is only eligible for the SVPP (or GMID if you have a GM employee get you an authorization number). However, many people, as you can see on this forum (and the Vette forum) are told it is GMS. They think the "S" stands for Supplier and it doesn't.
Besides, she would get more than 3K off on a nicely priced H3.
(I should add that there is a way for a director or higher at GM to offer employee pricing to non-GM employees if they feel it will make the deal. However, directors are high up the pay ladder, and I'm not near that paygrade.)

[Jersey Guy]

f5fstop i was told it was a GMS but i guess it isn't. she had to call an 800# and get an authorization # so maybe it's the GMID? Here is a copy of what the dealer gave me, MSRP & supplier price?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/cobra227/supp.jpg

[MxHonda]

$33,350.00 GMS

$38,235.00 MSRP

[tony d]

so thur when I go to the dealer and price up my loaded h3 and he already said he will accept my gms discount , the invoice will show me my discounted price ? there is no way the dealer can mess with it correct ?

[MxHonda]

Correct. GMS pricing is what it is.

[cmeinck]

With regards to the GMID, is that "what it is" or can the dealer
massage it. I would be getting a code from a relative, so it appears
from this forum that it would be a GMID. Is there a big difference
in the discount between GMS and GMID?

Any reports of these being accepted in NY? If I were looking to trade in my truck,
would I be better off selling -- since perhaps the dealer would lowball me knowing
that I would be using the GMID?

TIA
Chris

[HummerNewbie]

My understanding is that there is about a 4% difference between the two. I would be surprised if the dealer is going to massage the deal anymore than accepting the discount on such a hot vehicle. You would always be better selling outright but you are correct that they may try to lowball you since you are getting the discount. You might try going to someplace like CarMax and see what they will give you for it. I sold a car to them a year of so ago and they gave me top dollar even though I wasn't buying anything from them. Good luck.

[bender]

i paid ~$38,000 with nothing off MSRP

however, the dealer was very generous with my trade and gave me $30,000 for my bimmer where another hummer dealer offered only around $25,000

[cmeinck]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> i paid ~$38,000 with nothing off MSRP </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did you use any GMID?

[Hummer Guy]

GMID is the same as GM Supplier price -- dealers can't change that price, it comes on the invoice.

[H3wannabe]

GM just updated GM Supplier Pricing on the Supplier Site as a part of the latest "GM Total Value Promise" promotion on 2006 vehicles. Pricing is as follows:

Base Model: $27,403.19
Adventure: $28,378.96
Lux: $30,204.73

H3wannabe

[cmeinck]

So, does this mean that final price on the Lux is $30k plus taxes? That's a fantastic price.

[Marc H3]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by f5fstop:
GMID or GM In the Driveway, is a program GM started a year ago that allows any GM employee (salary or hourly) to obtain two authorization numbers per month for anyone to purchase a GM vehicle. The authorization number cannot be given to anyone who is eligible for the actual GM employee discount. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><span class="ev_code_blue">http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/938997/FYI.gif I have to say that you have given one of the best discriptions to a confusing issue. GMS is confused all the time with GM Supplier discounts. Thanks for your post everyone should know the difference now! </span>

[Marc H3]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cmeinck:
So, does this mean that final price on the Lux is $30k plus taxes? That's a fantastic price. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><span class="ev_code_blue">That would be a very basic lux package. Don't forget you need to add in all the extra options you might want to have... like automatic tranny, chrome packages etc, step assists, sunroof etc etc </span>

[Marc H3]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer Guy:
GMID is the same as GM Supplier price -- dealers can't change that price, it comes on the invoice. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><span class="ev_code_blue">Below is a scanned copy of a invoice to show you where to locate your GMID/ Supplier discount. It is right under the GMS and below you can see the MSRP. That number is a fixed number. The dealer can't change it.
</span>

<span class="ev_code_black">*Numbers have been edited out to protect the innocent!</span> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[cmeinck]

I'm sorry, but math was never my strong suit. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Next to the GMID is .45. The MSRP is 37735.00. How do you get the GMID price.

Thanks so much for all the helpful info. This
forum is great.

[H3wannabe]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Marc H3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cmeinck:
So, does this mean that final price on the Lux is $30k plus taxes? That's a fantastic price. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><span class="ev_code_blue">That would be a very basic lux package. Don't forget you need to add in all the extra options you might want to have... like automatic tranny, chrome packages etc, step assists, sunroof etc etc </span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly right, this pricing is with NO options outside of the packages listed.

H3wannabe

[f5fstop]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jersey Guy:
out standing great deal i dont understand this crap about GMS i just know my wife qualifies for this and she doesnt even work for gm nor is a relative. her company gives an option for GM vehicals and the Ford X plan which i saved about 5000 on my Mustang Cobra .i was as two dealers and they both came up with the same bottom price within $200 or so that came too 3000 off </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Jersey guy, as many, including myself have stated, your wife evidently received a GM Supplier discount, which is similar to the Ford X plan.
From what I can gather, you have a lux with off-road; and your stated 3K off relates to a GM Supplier or GMID discount. An actual GMS (GM Employee discount, aka NVPP) would be over 4K off.
Problem with the old terminology for the GM employee discount of GMS, many, including dealers (outside the Detroit area) refer to the Supplier discount as GMS. This is incorrect.

GMS (old terminology for GM Stock), now officially called New Vehicle Purchase Program (NVPP). GM employees or eligible sponsored Dependants.
GM Supplier, any eligible employee of a company that supplies products or services to GM.
GMID (GM in the Driveway), any person who obtains an authorization number from a GM employee for a new vehicle purchase. Discount is the same as the GM Supplier discount. GM employee authorized to give out two GMID authorization numbers per month.

On another note, it is strange, I offered many times to give this discount last month and only one person took me up on the offer. Oh well...

[Marc H3]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cmeinck:
I'm sorry, but math was never my strong suit. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Next to the GMID is .45. The MSRP is 37735.00. How do you get the GMID price.

Thanks so much for all the helpful info. This
forum is great. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><span class="ev_code_red">PLEASE NOTE THE * ABOVE IN MY POSTING OF THE INVOICE.</span>

<span class="ev_code_blue">NOTE: I removed the prices to protect the innocent (ME) http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif! I white outed the actual numbers.</span> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[f5fstop]

Basically, multiply the MSRP (minus shipping) by .92 and you will get a rough estimate of GMID/Supplier cost (+/- $200.00). As Marc has shown, the invoice has the prices for GMID/Supplier discount and the dealer cannot deviate, unless they have added other accessories over and above those listed on the MSRP.