Why so many haters??

[canucksnaphook]

I finally took the H3 for a test drive yesterday with my girlfriend. We both loved the vehicle as I was sure we would. I then brought it up to my co-workers last night on how impressed I was with it. Two "senior" respected guys on the job, ripped the H3 a new butt-hole. They were all over it calling it the "crappy canyon" and "what the hell would need that for?"....."thought you werent into being fake".....tough stuff from guys I respect. so my question is this....Is there really that much hate for H3's out there? and most importantly.....WHY??????

C.

[canucksnaphook]

I finally took the H3 for a test drive yesterday with my girlfriend. We both loved the vehicle as I was sure we would. I then brought it up to my co-workers last night on how impressed I was with it. Two "senior" respected guys on the job, ripped the H3 a new butt-hole. They were all over it calling it the "crappy canyon" and "what the hell would need that for?"....."thought you werent into being fake".....tough stuff from guys I respect. so my question is this....Is there really that much hate for H3's out there? and most importantly.....WHY??????

C.

[VTSTOMPER]

jeliousy.

Funny how people are thinking different about you because of a car. Give me a break. Many people are not going to be happy towards a HX owner. Some think it stands for war, some think it is the cause of war, and some think that it is a "FAKE" truck.

Fact remains - buy what you want. If you like it - that is all that matters.

I personally feel that you cannot let this stuff get to you. Many people have a problem with me now...and mostly it is the people that are "eco heads". Others, like kids and adults of all ages give me the thumbs up, and are all "look - a Hummer!!!"

[HummerNewbie]

Ask them to explain why they think like they do. Tell them you want facts to back up their claims that it is a crappy canyon or a fake truck. In response to their question "what the hell would you need that for", just tell them that you don't need it but want it and ask why that is a problem. As VT said, in most cases it just plain comes down to jealousy or blindly listening to the ranting of someone they know who is jealousy.

[GrimReaper]

Another lengthy dissertation by GrimReaper….

I find the anti-H3 attitude that you have described to be hypocritical in light of the SUV silliness that has swept the USA. I often times have a different view of things (I am one of the few who applauds Ricky William’s insights), but to me, an SUV is and always has been a type of truck. A vehicle that weighs 6000 lbs. and gets 8 mpg might even be called a commercial truck -- it certainly is in the government's fuel mileage and emissions rule book. I have always scoffed at people that buy these 6000 lb. brutes to drive to and from the grocery store, with no intention of ever going off-road, or going camping, or hauling anything larger than a package of bottled water. They want a great big vehicle to impress their friends and because “it makes them feel safe” (which is an anachronism “for I can’t drive very well”), yet at the same time they expect a car-like ride and a luxurious interior. My mother (I love her dearly) carries her little old 110 lb frame around in a 6500 lb Ford SUV which she lovingly calls her car. You can hear the sucking sound from the fuel pump as she drives by. Somewhere along the line these “trucks" ceased to become rugged utility vehicles, and instead they evolved into monster cars. They sprouted enormous grotesque windows, (they call this stadium seating), ridiculous bulges, triple level roof lines, and generally horrible styling so that they could be built on a car suspension with car tires and still appear to be bigger than the next guy’s SUV.

When I finally decided that my particular lifestyle requirements demanded an SUV, I started searching for what I considered to be the essentials of owning such a truck. I was looking for a vehicle with a truck chassis, built on a truck suspension, with off-road truck capabilities, and a manual transmission. A full year of test driving led me to realize that such an SUV was a thing of the past. The original Jeep Wagoneer, Ford Bronco, and Toyota 4-runner concept had evolved into something big, ugly, pretentious, and totally without justification. It seemed that the world was no longer interested in building or owning an SUV truck. Pseudo trucks were all that could be had. Then I saw a commercial introducing the H3. I did some research, and I discovered a real SUV (read that truck) that can do things that few other vehicles can do -- a shining star in sea of unremarkable vehicles.

I suspect that the H3 haters are all jealous because they have suddenly realized that their monster-sized gas-guzzling grocery-getting lump of steel could never hope to negotiate a 3" curb at the grocery store much less a rugged off-road trail. They thought they were the king of man-hood because their SUV could touch both white lines on either side of a freeway lane at the same time. But now that you showed up in your rugged H3, their folly has been exposed.

I’m sure that this view will generate some controversy (for those that have the time to read it). It is just my humble opinion.

[RazM]

It's most often ignorance. If it really bugs you, give them the facts about the H3, how it can and does play with the big boys, and in some ways can outdo them because of its size. Tell them this, if they're so quick on knocking it, then it shouldn't be too much work for them to do some research on it. Certainly they don't want to be talking out of their asses right...?

I can't imagine having friends that would treat me like that over a vehicle, much less respect them. You say you respect these guys, but from the looks of it, they're still in their High School mentality.

The H2 had similar problems when it came out, some people were saying it's the "fake" hummer, H3 will go through the same. Idiots are everywhere, your job is to make them educated idiots. Just don't let them get to you.

P.S. I have yet to have any negative comments like that made to me, but I'm ready with facts when they do.

[jkH1+H2=H3]

I have not shown my H3 to many people, Because I know the reaction will be. Also I have not especially brought it to work, Oh man, That would cause alot of problems, opions, bla, bla, bla..... Oh we know whos making the money around here kinda stuff. Just don't need to deal with them, its none of there business.Period http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[usetosellhummer]

Don't buy into that crap! If everyone worried aobut the co-workers we would all be driving vw bugs and talking about why bobs vw is orange instead of black like everyone else's

[HummerNewbie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jkH1+H2=H3:
I have not shown my H3 to many people, Because I know the reaction will be. Also I have not especially brought it to work, Oh man, That would cause alot of problems, opions, bla, bla, bla..... Oh we know whos making the money around here kinda stuff. Just don't need to deal with them, its none of there business.Period http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Screw them http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Does everyone you work with drive a $10K car? If anyone drives anything new where you work and it is more than some bare bones vehicle, then they really have nothing to bitch about.

[Georgemarc]

[quote]Posted 08-18-05 08:40 AM
I have not shown my H3 to many people, Because I know the reaction will be. Also I have not especially brought it to work, Oh man, That would cause alot of problems, opions, bla, bla, bla
Are you sure your preconceived notion is a fair assessment? I work in an office of about 100 and have gotten nothing but compliments, etc. I have also gone to lunch with many that I have not gone to lunch with before, as coworkers want to ride in the H3.

[wannabeH3]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
jeliousy.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

+1 totally i showed it to all my biker buddies, and was like this is what im getting and they totally ripped into it in fact here is the thread from a long time ago:
im going to ask that none of you suckers post there cuz the thread is long dead and you will only be causing trouble so read but dont touch
http://www.cycleforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&thr...=164026&highlight=h3 (http://www.cycleforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=164026&amp;highlight=h3)

anyways they point out some valid arguments such as pathetic power, high pricetag compared to other more reasonable things out there, but im not a reasonable guy and the styling on this h3 punishes anything else out there! and pwerwise, well its fine for what i do but i do wish it had more pep... I love my H3 and i am glad i own it dont have any regrets.

[Zing]

Don't waste your energy considering what people say. Even people you respect, as not everyone relates. Buying a hummer is a very individualistic thing, something you do for your own satisfaction based on your appreciation for its capability and beauty. If you buy it for other reasons, you will feel great at times and be disappointed others. If you buy it for yourself you will always be thrilled, and your friends will eventually understand why if they don't at first. Most of the comments you are hearing are either based on lack of knowledge or basic jealousy.

[tacocat]

wannabe, they seem to be pro Japanese in their vehicle preferences, so you can't win there.

I think the biggest issue with Hummer is where they are seen. The only time you see a Hummer being properly used is on the TV commericals. Most people see Hummers all blinged out on MTV cribs or on rap videos.

A good portion of all Hummers do end up being owned by a CPA (Certified Pavemnetpounder of America). Even on thise site, over half endup with 20"+ wheels. My local dealer will sell a chromed blinged out H3 in a few days, but a stock will sit for a while.

Honestly, the vehicle attracts poseurs. Sure you get your poser street Jeeps and Toyotas, but the Hummer draws more attention than either of these cars do.

I'm right there with you Grim. I would have never considerd an H3, but I checked it out, and it was a suprisingly purpose built SUV. I'm still shocked at how rugged the whole package was designed.

[f5fstop]

Some people love to hate things. Some hate Hummers, some hate guns, some hate Corvettes. I have had people accuse me of using our natural resources when driving my Vette; not knowing that it can get up to 30 mpg on the highway.
My neighbor has two H2s and the most gravel they have seen is at the little league fields. However, I don't condemn them for that, the H2 was a vehicle that they wanted, and then they argued over who got to drive it, so they purchased two. It doesn't bother me that they are always in the driveway (can't fit 'em in the garage, I guess), they are always spotless.http://hometown.aol.com/f5fstop01/images/rollingonfloorlaughing.gif
My answer to these guys would have been two words, one word I won't write here, the last word would have been "off." But, I'm an old cranky cannibal, who never cares what other people think of me.

[DarthKarl]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zing:
Don't waste your energy considering what people say. Even people you respect, as not everyone relates. Buying a hummer is a very individualistic thing, something you do for your own satisfaction based on your appreciation for its capability and beauty. If you buy it for other reasons, you will feel great at times and be disappointed others. If you buy it for yourself you will always be thrilled, and your friends will eventually understand why if they don't at first. Most of the comments you are hearing are either based on lack of knowledge or basic jealousy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are spot on! Couldn't express my feelings any better. Great post.

[jkH1+H2=H3]

MMM, your pushing me to possiably take it to work tomorrow, Warning: It may get ugly!!! My Boss has a Porch
Boxer, always dirty.... any comments.
Ps. another worker who is so cheep, bought a buel motorcycle to save money, its a piece of Cr-P doesnt start when its cold out Below 45 F. Now whats to sell it , no takers. Thats the mentallity I deal with.

[jkH1+H2=H3]

One more thing, I have always be a Humvee, H1, & H2 Fan,
Its me, its my personality, it rules. Thanks for the H3, I will never buy anything else then a HUMMER, Period,.

[HummerNewbie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jkH1+H2=H3:
MMM, your pushing me to possiably take it to work tomorrow, Warning: It may get ugly!!! My Boss has a Porch
Boxer, always dirty.... any comments.
Ps. another worker who is so cheep, bought a buel motorcycle to save money, its a piece of Cr-P doesnt start when its cold out Below 45 F. Now whats to sell it , no takers. Thats the mentallity I deal with. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Take it to work. Unless you are over paid for your job and the rest of the people are under paid, who cares what they say.

[hyperion78]

i'm kind of with jk on this one. One of the things I worry about is if I get an H3 and I take it to work how's every one going to act about it. Ya there are a couple of new cars but not any brand spanking new SUV's

[HummerNewbie]

Nobody at my office drives anything comparable to the H3 but that is their problem. I have the job that I work with them at and I also have other businesses and investments. If they are not willing to do what I do to allow myself to get an H3, then they can live with it. Just my two cents.

[DennisAJC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by canucksnaphook:
Two "senior" respected <span class="ev_code_RED">guys on the job, ripped the H3 a new butt-hole. They were all over it calling it the "crappy canyon" and "what the hell would need that for?"....."thought you werent into being fake".....</span>tough stuff from guys I respect.<span class="ev_code_RED">?????????</span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why didn't you just drop your pants and take it in the rear like a real woman?

Respecting anyone who INSULTS you is called "Brown noser" or a more polite term "Suckin on some man sausage". Way to stick up for yourself Fido.

Never leave home without your backbone.

[bender]

a lot of people are just dumb

[canucksnaphook]

Well at this point I must thank all the people who have taken time to respond to my post. I realize there are people who hate everything. When I first got my jeep there were many cynics. And I could give a ****. I was wondering WHY people hate on things. As for the respect and "taking it in the rear". These are guys who would go into ANY fire with me....and any HAZ-MAT situation. And not to get to movie-esque, but do anything for the safety of myself and others they dont even know. So that is the respect I talk about...and if you think that is acting like a chick then so be it. Thanks again

C.

[km406]

Canucksnaphook,
You still should have let them have it back...I'm sure they would still have your back, just as you would have theirs after those comments. That is how YOU gain respect on jobs like ours. I also drive my Hummer to a firehouse everday, luckily for me, the guys I work with are a little more respectful of each other. They all love the truck, and one asked for a brochure because he is thinking about getting one himself. Another has just recently bought a used 2003 H2.

[L.E. Sniper]

I would just buy what ever you wont to buy!!! what you buy with your legally earned money is none of there business!! If they dont like it that is just to bad!!! Do you need there approvel on what kind of milk to buy? Or what color to paint your house? NO!!! It is just none of there business. If you like it and can afford it BY IT. If not dont
It is up to you, and if they are truly your friends they will respect that. If they dont respect your decision, then they are not your real friends and then I wouldn't care what they think.

[canucksnaphook]

KM...

as you are well aware that in a job like ours, I sure did give it back to them....cause its not stop talking ****. If you dont, you get run over all day long. I will still get the vehicle I choose...and more and more I love the H3.

Thanks all

C.

[tacocat]

Snaphook, Oh that's the situation. Firehouse, military, police, it doesn't matter. You could get a Ferrari for free and they would still give you s ration of crap. They will rib you no matter what you do or say.

[canucksnaphook]

exactly taco.....you know the world. There is never love...cause its way more fun to F with the other guy !!

C.

[tacocat]

I think it's actually in the job description.

Seriously, the more they tease you about something, the more they like the idea inside.

[km406]

canucksnaphook,
Sounds like you got a good handle on everything then. If you choose to get the H3, I wish you luck...YOU WILL DEFINITELY LOVE IT! And watch, the guys busting your chops now will probably like it once they see it in person.

Stay safe

[canucksnaphook]

thanks KM. Play safe down there too. Last night in tonite...I need some rest now http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

C.

[Hummer crazy]

People hate what they can't have if you got it and they can't have one they will hate Look at all the kids that don't know about price tags they love my hummer I got kids that stop playing and just look and say Hummer look hummer Maybe its the mom and dads that are hating cause the kids talk about Hummers all the time...LOL my friends with 4 kids Child support hate the fact I have a Hummer and they pay Child suport and drive $300 cars they should have thought about what they wanted or went to school to be a Dr. and have 4 kids and a Hummer or lex & Caddy or what ever

[IronMedic]

i have heard my fair share of smack. i talked to my father how i have a huge interest in getting an H3. his first words were "dont get it, they are crap. they are not worth the money and not built well...get a toyota". my father owns 3 toyotas: pre-runner for my step-mom, sequoia for himself, and a corolla for my grandmother. honestly i dont care what he thinks, im gonna do it. he respects my decisions. he is tired of seeing hummers all over las vegas (where he lives). he lives and dies by toyota for some reason but to each his own!

a few friends at work think i am completely insane for wanting to spend this much money on a car. honestly i am a high roller and want the nicer things in life. if u can afford an H3, u deserve nice things in life. i am in the military and i work my @ss off for our country. my friends all drive $10-20k range cars and it works for them...well it doesnt work for me. i dont want to get by in life being plain..i want to get by feeling great about myself and what i own. i like to be an individual. i like to be the oddball in the parking lot with a Hummer while they all drive their simple cars throughout life. with that being said, guess who will be standing around my truck everyday scoping it? there are no hummer owners in my squadron at work and i have a squadron of 800 people...believe me, i will stand out in that lot.
i dont want to just cruise through the mountains and forests..i want to blast through everything in it and show what a hummer can really do. i dont care what anyone thinks. in the end, if i pick up chicks in my hummer instead of some POS honda, i win!

[kacyk]

People love to talk about or insult things they don't have. If any of us gave a crap about what others thought, there would be no Hummers on the road.

[Kid Shyleen]

I bought a Disco II and people at work made all kinds of comments about what I was getting paid. You know the glares and all. I got the truck for $34K; back in the day. So I sold the Disco II and bought an Avalanche NFE; $41K. Everyone liked it - no more comments or glares. It seems that I fit in better because I had a Chevy. Well, I done with that! I have an H3 on order, it's yellow, and I couldn't give a &$#@ what people are going to think. And as far as the tree huggers out there, the H3 gets better gas mileage than my Avalanche did, but you didn't flip me off then. Pure ignorance. I had a girl get on my case the other day about Global warming melting the ice caps and how we are all going to die because of Bush and SUVs. I told her it was a perfect time to drill into our Alaskan oil fields! I mean we're all going to die anyway. She still doesn't like me...

fstop - the Corvette is one of the most advanced cars on the market today. My dad has a 40th, and it gets 29-33 MPG day and night. It's actually an economy car! Go figure!

[SteveRH]

I find a lot of people I know are HUMMER and Harley experts who don't own either one. You know the type, "I wouldn't buy a bike unless it was a Harley and I sure wouldn't own a HUMMER unless it was an H1"...

Well, one of my most opinionated buddies went for a ride in my H3 and then I let him drive it... The next day, I got a call explaining that he had told his wife he was going to get an H3 between now and '07...

If ignorance is bliss, you can keep your bliss, because I'm driving a HUMMER... And the bastard is an H3 and I friggin love it!!!

[DRTYFN]

Always remember- Opinions are like *******s. Everybody has one and it usually stinks.

But on the upside- if you're lucky someone will offer you some ATD.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[IronMedic]

i checked out the lariat 06 F150 and they are nice. i also checked out the dodge ram daytona 4x4 and it is nice. i like them both but nothing compares to a hummer. i really do have my mind set on a nice hummer. the daytona sounded sweet with the stock borla exhaust.

im gonna get alot of insane opinions from friends but in the end, its my hummer and my life! im gonna live it out and tell my kids that i was a car nut and this is what i owned.

[KenP]

Get a FlowMaster or Borla for the H3 and you will have it all! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[MyxH3]

BAH... tell them to just F#@* off, people always hate what they dont understand...

[trading13]

Whats with equating chicks to "taking it" ??? In todays politically correct feminist society of metrosexuals a guy is more likely to bend over and take it than a chick, I think. And you guys talking about jealousy are completly out of your mind, nofreakinbody is jealous cause when it comes down to it nobody cares what you have. REALLY THEY DONT.

[HummerNewbie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by trading13:
And you guys talking about jealousy are completly out of your mind, nofreakinbody is jealous cause when it comes down to it nobody cares what you have. REALLY THEY DONT. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I totally disagree. If this were the case then why do so many people get sh!t, myself included, about what they make or what they spend on a vehicle when they purchase something like a Hummer. Like someone mentioned before, I know so many people that have gotten crap from other people because of what they drive and the assumption of cost. If nobody cares what you drive, please explain sites like fuh2.com. Don't try to say it is because of the gas mileage the H2 gets because if that were the case then there would have to be sites created by the same people for so many vehicles that get the same or worse mileage as the H2. The just target the H2 because of simple jealousy or hatred for whatever reason and hatred usually breeds from jealousy. These are just ignorant people and if the really didn't care what we drive then they wouldn't say anything.

[trading13]

ok I take it back there are some jealous people, but I don't know them or I'm unaware of them. I've gotten crap from a couple people but I don't think its because of jealousy or envy I think its for no other reason than a hummer is controversial and its an easy way to stir something up. 10 seconds later its completely forgotten. As for fuh2.com well people are really desperate to stand for something or in this case against something but more importantly they are really BORED. I think people target the Hummer cause its easy. Others hate it because they think everyone should drive a hybrid or walk. But you can totally disagree, I'm sure youre experiences are different.

[HummerNewbie]

Oh, I think we agree for the most part. There are people out there that are jealous, you just have been lucky enough not to have to deal with them. I hope that you never have to as well. It is sad but there are people out there that, as you said, are just bored and have to go after something. I also agree that Hummers get targeted because they are easy to target. There are few vehicles that can be targeted yet have so few owners to respond. It would be much harder for these hate groups to target a say $25K Ford or other GM vehicle. I know one of my buddies with an H2 has had friends that don't know he has one make comments about how all H2 owners are a**holes. He asks if he is one and they respond that he isn't and why. They about sh!t when he says he has an H2. They are either just jealous or blindly following what others have said. For some reason Hummer owners have a rep of being a**holes but I have yet to meet one. I am sure they are out there but I would suspect the percentage isn't as high as other vehicles in the same price range.

[Marc H3]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by trading13:
... Others hate it because they think everyone should drive a hybrid or walk. But you can totally disagree, I'm sure youre experiences are different. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><span class="ev_code_BLUE">Ok what would you think if this happened to you? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

I was driving down a street no where near where I live and I spotted a motorcycle guy in gear with helmet on. He saw me coming down the road and proceeded to start jerking OFF motions. Now if it were my neighborhood I would have thought it was one of my neighbors that might have been pissed off at me. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

As I turned the corner I just ignored his movements up and down drove on.

So then... what do you make of that kind of stupid reaction?
</span>

[SteveRH]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Marc H3: As I turned the corner I just ignored his movements up and down drove on. [/color] </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well HUMMERS are sexy vehicles, but I would not expect that response... Well, if it were a chick I would have turned around and taken her for a spin... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[trading13]

I would think he thought I was really hot. Really my first thought would be that I cut him off or was driving too close for his comfort, motorcycle riders can be sensitive about that. Assuming you didn't do any of those things maybe he thinks he you use too much gas, or maybe deep down he really did want an h3 instead. I dunno. I'm just saying I don't believe people in general are jealous. The comments I've heard are more about having a little drama, wanting to stand against something and going along with everyone else.

[TorontoJeff]

Someone said to me when I bought my H3 that people will either love it or hate it, but the people who hate it want it more than the people who love it.

[SteveRH]

Sounds like one of those Howard Stern ads that says, "Fans of Stern listen to the show for an average of 1-2 hours a day. People who protest the show listen for an average of 3-4 hours a day."

[h3fanatic]

I have found that alot of people bash the H3 because they prob cant afford one or just like to bash on things that they dont know...

Everyone will hate on something that you do, and with your fly ass car just run them over haha!!!