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NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:18 PM
well we had a little get together in big bear yesterday :cool:

early morning rounding the lake
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:20 PM
our lil group at the trail head
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:22 PM
one of the rock gardens along the way :D
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:23 PM
starting thru :cool:
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:26 PM
rocky :D
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:28 PM
:D pretty gnarly rocks
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:30 PM
:D :D lots of rock
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:31 PM
almost thru this field :cool:
fourfourto
05-28-2006, 05:33 PM
GR8 pics .:D
I noticed you relocated your front plate:cool:
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:33 PM
next :D
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:34 PM
GR8 pics .:D
I noticed you relocated your front plate:cool:

hey 4 , yea man it was the only safe place i could find :D dont know where to put the rear , its been caught a few times ;)
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:36 PM
pickin thru the rocks
HummBebe
05-28-2006, 05:39 PM
OMG!!! SWEET! We have to put that one on the list:D

Looks challenging. I LIKE ET!
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:39 PM
movin along :cool:
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:40 PM
OMG!!! SWEET! We have to put that one on the list:D

Looks challenging. I LIKE ET!

hey bebster , i havent gotten to the good stuff yet :eek: LOL
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:42 PM
one more to get thru :D
HummBebe
05-28-2006, 05:43 PM
Well then hurry UP....:D
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:43 PM
:D :D
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:46 PM
heres where it started gettin good :D :D so hang in there Beebster Queen of the Wheelers ;) i know you would have fun on this one :cool:
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:48 PM
this area got the adrenalin pumpin :D
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:50 PM
ron was great , an awsome wheeler and great spotin :D thanx again :cool:
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:52 PM
oh yea :D
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:53 PM
freakin my turn :eek: :D
HummBebe
05-28-2006, 05:53 PM
My Husband just asked me....what Are you smiling at the computer for??

THIS IS AWESOME.

Is that H1 Ron B's ? I love it!
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:55 PM
:cool:
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 05:59 PM
yes that be the Mr. B man :cool: i was amazed that he got me up this :eek: did i mention that my fuel tank has the capacity of your now :D i mashed it in pretty good in this area ;)
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 06:01 PM
:cool:
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 06:04 PM
:D i made it up :D
HummBebe
05-28-2006, 06:04 PM
yes that be the Mr. B man i was amazed that he got me up this :eek: did i mention that my fuel tank has the capacity of your now :D i mashed it in pretty good in this area

HAH!! You now belong fully to the HummBebe Carnage Club :D:D:D
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 06:11 PM
your turn :D
HummBebe
05-28-2006, 06:12 PM
PS we might want to talk to someone about a UC cage for those tanks, they see pretty vulnerable.
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 06:14 PM
:D
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 06:15 PM
:cool:
Steve - SanJose
05-28-2006, 06:18 PM
Great pics. Noticed snow's all gone. What altitude were you at?

S.
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 06:21 PM
hey steve there was a little left on the tops of the peaks but the ski runs were all bare think we were between 7-9k at different times
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 06:22 PM
chillin :cool:
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 06:24 PM
:cool:
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 06:25 PM
its nice to drive home :D in one piece :D
hmrlvr
05-28-2006, 06:51 PM
As usual, great pictures Neo
hmrlvr
05-28-2006, 06:56 PM
Did you lose the Yellow H2 somewhere along the way? Or just camera shy.;)
ETD
05-28-2006, 06:57 PM
Neo. Great Pics. Good job getting home in one piece :D . Where is this place?
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 07:01 PM
;) he had to bail half way thru the day so wasnt at the second area we were at in the later pix :cool: i was so happy nothin broke :D and i didant need a strap ;) this was my first run since moab :eek: so was a good test
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 07:05 PM
Neo. Great Pics. Good job getting home in one piece :D . Where is this place?

this is north east of los angeles in the lake arrowhead - big bear area these are from the start of the john bull trail and the obstacles on other trails to get to john bull trail head .
The Green Lantern
05-28-2006, 07:36 PM
Those are amazing pics!!!...very nice Neo.
DDWH
05-28-2006, 07:53 PM
Great pics Neo!:D :cool:
Bully13
05-28-2006, 08:02 PM
That looks like so much fun.:D I finnally got my step bars off. Now I just have to get the rocker panels.
RonB
05-28-2006, 08:32 PM
nice to meet you Steve, Darla, and Fred (Wilfred) and see Horace again.

We had a great time even though we didn't make it all the way through. It was slow going with alot of spotting needed, and there was some serious carnage in the group ahead of us so we had to wait awhile for the trail to clear. It was about 4:30 pm once we got moving and we had 2.5 miles of really technical stuff ahead...after about 1/2 mile of near death we thought it smart to come back another day instead of risk being stranded in the dark if we broke something (very likely on John Bull).

Some parts were easier than I remember, other parts were harder. I'm still amazed how easy stuff looks in pictures (we had trouble walking up some of these spots we had to negotiate). I can say that we were the only stock trucks I saw on the trail.

Fred, in the yellow H2 did Gold Mnt with us in the morning, had lunch with us and called it a day. The first trail is a good warm-up, but in no way compares to the difficulty of John Bull. It's been a year since I've been there so my memory had faded a bit -- sorry Steve if I had given you the impression that it was easier than it turned out to be. You did great, though. Horace you did well also, but mother nature must have issues with your wheelbase/height/ground clearance/width...perhaps all three dimentions come out to 666 or something?

I think all of out trucks would be better served by another inch or two of lift with our longer wheel bases. The rear shock mounts on the H3 did quite a bit of rubbing as did the diff on the H2. We really bent the snot out of Horace's rock sliders (mine too!). I think the H2 is too heavy, but one and all should check out the Air-Rock system that Offroad-Only sells ( www.offroadonly.com ). Look under products, then under suspension to find info on the air rock systems.

Looking forward to the next time. I'd like to try again before I go back to work at the end of July.

Ron B
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 08:42 PM
hey ron no problem with the difficulty level . with you spottin me i was goin up stuff that i didant dream i could make :D . it sucks the photos flatten the terrain so much . looking forward to next time . i love being on the trails where all we see are moded heeps and built rigs . sure they laugh at us , but we laugh right back further up the trail :cool:

cool http://www.offroadonly.com/ the link above has an ) in it thats not working
RonB
05-28-2006, 08:58 PM
thanks Steve, I fixed the original link. My truck is due for service and some tlc. Plus I want to put in the detroit that's sitting in my garage taunting me. I'll be ready to go again in a month!

btw...I'm going to attempt Mt Whitney in a few days and I have a spot or two open on the entry permit (June 1 entry).

RB
NEOCON1
05-28-2006, 10:53 PM
man i wish we could make it but am all tied up till end of june :(

july is open for us but back to Moab in august :D
Sewie
05-29-2006, 12:41 AM
Great pics Neo and glad to hear there was no carnage. :D
blindzebra
05-29-2006, 03:16 AM
Great pics. Thanks for posting. They're making me get the itchto wheel.

O yeah, GO CANES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
H2Finally
05-29-2006, 04:44 AM
Kuddos to Ron for the great spotting (only reason I didn't break something -- 'cause I was ready to just smash through anything at the end), and NEO for representin' the H3!!! :D

Sorry guys we had to turn around. Granted that this is JBT, one of the hardest trail for any stock vehicle (the Hammers is for the heavily modded), but come on -- I was hung up or slippin or slidin every 5 FEET!!! :mad: I'm all out of excuses. Bottom line was that was the hardest time I ever had on a trail. Every line I took turned out to be the wrong one. Every time I tried to correct, it got worse. At the end, it wasn't fun anymore, just frustrating, embarrassing, and fukcing maddening :( and that's when we turned around.

But not to worry, I shall return, and I shall ride the BULL again!!! :mad:

There is a happy ending though. On the way home I had a chance to pick up another set of rocker panels I won on ebay (seller live in the area), which was great timing since I bent mine (actually cracked the rock I landed it on!) -- and these new ones are CHROMED BLING-BLING BABY!!!! :D
DennisAJC
05-29-2006, 06:18 AM
Great pics guys! Go Team Hummer! :mad:

I remember you doing this run with no issues last time H2F.:confused:

What up with that? Could it be the BLING?:D Do you have air suspension? Maybe it's the BLING?:D The new undercarraige weigh you down? Could it be the BLING?:D
CO Hummer
05-29-2006, 06:24 AM
Great pics Neo. Yah, good to see you're in one piece!
NEOCON1
05-29-2006, 04:49 PM
hey Horace , dont beat yourself up too much we have all had days like that ;) we will go again sometime and you will own that mountain :D :D



thanx everyone that enjoyed these pix :cool: as usual Nav4 got some sweet ones :cool:
RonB
05-29-2006, 07:04 PM
the H2 has always made me nervous during difficult climbs -- the front two tires go crosseyed. There were a couple of moments when you were turning while I was spotting and only one tire was turning. I kept waiting for a snap! I guess the H3 being lighter may not be as affected -- at least I didn't notice it happening with Steve's truck.

Horace, are you using 37's or the stock size MTR's (I forgot)? Pretty wierd, I know alot of H1's using those and they love them. You sure couldn't get any grip -- I think we tried every possible line on that initial obstacle with no luck. The rocks were pretty slippery.

One of the jeepers gave me the biggest compliment I've had in a while. After watching me back down that hill and strap you he said my truck was more like a tractor than an suv. I thought that was funny.

I'm glad there was no carnage -- just alot of banging. Your rear diff is probably flattened out!

Ron B
RonB
05-30-2006, 01:30 AM
Horace, here's a picture of that same spot exactly 1 year ago. It seems alot different now -- last year I had alot of trouble as you did this year.

Ron B
NEOCON1
05-30-2006, 01:41 AM
looks pretty wet on that trip
wilfred
05-31-2006, 01:43 AM
Many thanks to all of you, I had a great time!!! Extra thanks to RonB & H2Finally for the excellent spotting! Without you two, my H2 definitely would've suffered much more than a few nicks.

And thanks for the kind words guys, truth is, I chickened out on John Bull:eek: After running Gold Mountain, which is the hardest stuff I have done so far, I took off before I was going to have a heart attack or seizure up there:D

Here are a few photos I took. Now please post more of the yellow h2 because I know I did a whole lot more than just rock garden:mad:
wilfred
05-31-2006, 02:05 AM
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deserth3
05-31-2006, 02:41 AM
I like the "Veterans for Bush" window sticker.
NEOCON1
05-31-2006, 02:55 AM
thank you deserth3 , being in SoCal my truck usually gets flipped off and spit on so your compliment is a very welcomed response :D thanks .
NEOCON1
05-31-2006, 03:23 AM
hey fred all i got of you were at the rock garden heres a good one :D
hmrlvr
05-31-2006, 03:35 AM
Many thanks to all of you, I had a great time!!! Extra thanks to RonB & H2Finally for the excellent spotting! Without you two, my H2 definitely would've suffered much more than a few nicks.

And thanks for the kind words guys, truth is, I chickened out on John Bull:eek: After running Gold Mountain, which is the hardest stuff I have done so far, I took off before I was going to have a heart attack or seizure up there:D

Here are a few photos I took. Now please post more of the yellow h2 because I know I did a whole lot more than just rock garden:mad:
At least you showed up Fred. I wimped out as soon as heared where you guys were going. At 1st it was just a ride up a mountain on a fire road, then the rocks. I was out:eek:
H2Finally
05-31-2006, 06:06 AM
Wilfred's toy H2.. :D
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/h2finally/CIMG1562t.jpg
NEOCON1
05-31-2006, 06:10 AM
man thats a great shot Horace :D very nice
H2Finally
05-31-2006, 06:31 AM
Presents from John Bull.. :( :D
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/h2finally/CIMG1601t.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/h2finally/CIMG1605t.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/h2finally/CIMG1602tt.jpg
H2Finally
05-31-2006, 06:39 AM
Oops, this is the H3 section, gotta leave with an H3 in action...
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/h2finally/CIMG1576t.jpg

To do justice to Neo's goat-like skeelz, here's the same spot under the H1 (look at the size of that rear-diff eatin' rock under it :eek: -- The H1's tires are 38")
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/h2finally/CIMG1573t.jpg
Ipedog
05-31-2006, 07:56 PM
Hey Neo!

Looks like you guys had a great time! Welcome to the world of ROCK! :D:cool:
Sewie
05-31-2006, 09:06 PM
Presents from John Bull.. :( :D




Dayyyummmmm!!! :eek: Nice scars! :D
usetosellhummer
05-31-2006, 09:34 PM
Straight up crawlers you guys. Props to the Rock Gods:)
NEOCON1
06-01-2006, 03:30 AM
Dayyyummmmm!!! :eek: Nice scars! :D

X2 man it sounded gnarly now i know what we were hearing :D
NEOCON1
06-01-2006, 03:32 AM
Hey Neo!

Looks like you guys had a great time! Welcome to the world of ROCK! :D:cool:

oh yea Ipe this was a whole new thing for me :D :D
NEOCON1
06-01-2006, 03:33 AM
Straight up crawlers you guys. Props to the Rock Gods:)

thanks usetosell , we be gettin there :D
westhillsat
06-01-2006, 05:13 AM
Great pics!!! :cool:

I'm jealous , looks like you all had a great time!!!:)