Rocker Panel Rock Rails

[ChasH3]

Went to the dealer for an Oil Change and walked out with a oil change and rock rails for $415.00.... Someone bought an H3 with the rock rails and didn't want them... Hummm maybe next oil change I'll get the UPC underbody protection....:D :D :D

[usetosellhummer]

lucky bish

[HummerNewbie]

Way to go! :cool:

[raptorman53]

What lame a$$ didn't want rock rails:eek:

[DarthKarl]

What lame a$$ didn't want rock rails:eek:

maybe it was that dude who was posting about lowering his H3 :rolleyes:

[HummerHippy]

maybe it was that dude who was posting about lowering his H3 :rolleyes:
Ha!!! :)

Mine came with side steps. Taking them off today. Not ready to pull the trigger on rock rails yet. Seems a little expensive. What are they? Like $650+?

[deserth3]

I'm trying to wait for AMstar. They show nerf bar, rock rail all in one setup.

[usetosellhummer]

got manik rails for 200

[HummerNewbie]

Ha!!! :)

Mine came with side steps. Taking them off today. Not ready to pull the trigger on rock rails yet. Seems a little expensive. What are they? Like $650+?

$400 plus shipping is a decent price, can find them cheaper though.

Careful taking the steps off, just noticed yesterday I still have a scar on my hand from taking mine off 6 months ago. They put mine on so tight when I was finally able to break the bolt loose I bashed my hand on the bracket :mad:

[yzergod]

Went to the dealer for an Oil Change and walked out with a oil change and rock rails for $415.00....

http://www.frontier.net/~yzergod/BB%20HUMOR/worthlesswoutpics.gif

[HIHUMMER]

got manik rails for 200


If you are gonna wheel...Manik's suck. I thought they were great for a while there until I hit them in just the wrong spot, then crrruuuunnncccchhh! BABHUMV's did the same. Like BAB, I contacted Manik and they confirmed that their rock rails are for display use only. They were "suppose" to come out w/ true off roading rock rails but I have yet to seet them. Anyone?

I'd be interested in AMstar's set up...otherwise, I might be having some fabricated.

[HummerHippy]

Real nice! :confused:
Here's some rocker protection for ya. Oh, but it's for display only. It's not meant to protect anything.

[HummerNewbie]

If you are gonna wheel...Manik's suck. I thought they were great for a while there until I hit them in just the wrong spot, then crrruuuunnncccchhh!

And you didn't even "hit" them. It was more of a just slide over the rock on them, not come down hard on them.

[HIHUMMER]

And you didn't even "hit" them. It was more of a just slide over the rock on them, not come down hard on them.

Tis true. :mad:
BTW: What made it even worse was when the rail crushed in, it somehow threw the alignment of my passenger side front door off. Kinda like it was sticking when you tried to open it. We had to take the rail completely off to get the door right again.
STAY AWAY FROM MANIK (rock rails).

[usetosellhummer]

point taken, they sould be more clear about that on the representation.
Wish me luck

[HummerNewbie]

They did hold up in Tellico last time but I guess two trips there was just too much for them :mad:

[ChasH3]

I looked all over the web for rock rails and it was either buy them from the dealer or from Manik.. I was just lucky and for the price I couldn't resist... But I am selling my side steps, since I need to buy the ones that fit onto the rock rails.. So anyone in So cal looking for side steps let me know... $350 and they are yours.... PM me if interested... Also, the parts gentleman at the dealership said he has take off's evey once in a while... So call, you never know... Weseloh Hummer San Juan Capistrano, Ca....

[fourfourto]

Hi
Do you drive your GTO as hard as you do the H3 ? :eek: :D :rolleyes: :cool:

[HIHUMMER]

Hi
Do you drive your GTO as hard as you do the H3 ? :eek: :D :rolleyes:

Hahaaa! You better believe it!:cool: :D

[Sewie]

Here's a couple shots of Babhumv's prototype rails from Rocky Road Outfitters. We didn't test them too hard this week but they feel pretty solid and I like how they stick out farther than the OEM ones. Only a couple design issues that I personally would like to see fixed before they hit market.

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[Sewie]

Here's a close up.

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[HIHUMMER]

Only a couple design issues that I personally would like to see fixed before they hit market.

Like what?

[ChasH3]

Any Idea on cost from Rocky Road Outfitters????

[dochummer]

$369 plus shipping. :)

[BuzzH3]

Here's a couple shots of Babhumv's prototype rails from Rocky Road Outfitters. We didn't test them too hard this week but they feel pretty solid and I like how they stick out farther than the OEM ones. Only a couple design issues that I personally would like to see fixed before they hit market.


I went out to their site and it looks like these are available now. What were the design issues that you didn't like?

[Sewie]

Like what?

They only used 3 supports instead of four. The fourth set of holes on the frame rail were covered by a label so I'm guessing they missed them. Still very solid, but if the holes are there, might as well put a support there.

Also, one of the cables for the parking brake was run under one of the supports.

[Aubs]

When I was in South Bend, Manny told me that Amstar products were developed because the factory protection, even the upgraded stuff, wasn't holding up on the AM General test track. So I'd put my money on the Ambest, whenever it becomes available.

[dochummer]

Amstar/Starcraftparts - So far, what they have on their website is very pricey!

[Sewie]

When I was in South Bend, Manny told me that Amstar products were developed because the factory protection, even the upgraded stuff, wasn't holding up on the AM General test track. So I'd put my money on the Ambest, whenever it becomes available.

Are the ones on the Amstar site even true rockrails. They just look like tubesteps with modified brackets so they sit closer to the rocker panel.:rolleyes:

I actually really like the Rocky Road ones and will probably buy a set when I finish destroying my OEM ones :D if there is nothing better on the market. There's just those two items I think should be addressed.

[springer]

Sewie do you think the Rocky-Road rocker protection could be used for a step also. I am looking for rocker panel protection, but my fience is constantly complaining about it being so hard for her to get in, so I thought I might could kill two birds with one stone. Let me know what you think.

Thanks
Tanner

[BABHUMV]

Sewie, thanks for the pics. it was hard for me to get pics when I am driving. And Sewie, I did come down very hard on them about 2 minutes before the tie rod bent, and at the first obstacle on steel bender were the winch was used. In my honest opinion, I beat the $hit out of them. They held up great. As for the question about the step. As soon as I told my partner Kurtis to use them as a step when getting in, he did and they work great. You can also stand on them to get to the roof very easily. My opinion, is that they look really cool with the second bar coming out, they are very functional and strong, they come with a lifetime warranty, so go ahead try to bend them, and they double as a step to the roof or entry too. Well worth the $'s. They have looks and functionality, so they are decorative, strong as He!! rock rails.

:perfect10s:

[BABHUMV]

Here's a close up.

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This is on the way down to Hell's Gate obstacle. You actually have to use the rock rails to slide down. Too cool.:D

[Beastmaster]

So - when can we order?

[dochummer]

Should be now! :) They're on the website www.rocky-road.com

[Sewie]

Sewie, thanks for the pics. it was hard for me to get pics when I am driving. And Sewie, I did come down very hard on them about 2 minutes before the tie rod bent, and at the first obstacle on steel bender were the winch was used. In my honest opinion, I beat the $hit out of them. They held up great. As for the question about the step. As soon as I told my partner Kurtis to use them as a step when getting in, he did and they work great. You can also stand on them to get to the roof very easily. My opinion, is that they look really cool with the second bar coming out, they are very functional and strong, they come with a lifetime warranty, so go ahead try to bend them, and they double as a step to the roof or entry too. Well worth the $'s. They have looks and functionality, so they are decorative, strong as He!! rock rails.

:perfect10s:


No problem. :D

BTW, I emailed Glenn at RR and he said the cable should be easy to relocate and when they tested the rails they didn't notice any flex. And seeing them in action I'd say they did really well. He also mentioned the lifetime warranty. :cool:

[DRTYFN]

Hi
Do you drive your GTO as hard as you do the H3 ? :eek: :D :rolleyes: :cool:


Hahaaa! You better believe it! But you should see me giving rides on a sofa.:cool: :D

:OWNED: :giggling:

[HIHUMMER]

DRTY...I (and others) are beginning to think you're infatuated, maybe even have a crush on me. Why do you think of me so much?It's really to flattering. :OWNED:

[DRTYFN]

DRTY...I (and others) are beginning to think you're infatuated, maybe even have a crush on me. Why do you think of me so much?It's really to flattering. :OWNED:

BUWAHAHAHA!!!!!! You must have me confused with your obsessed puppy. You keep telling yourself how everyone wants you and I'll keep laughing at your delusions. :giggling: :OWNED:

[HummerNewbie]

You keep telling yourself how everyone wants you and I'll keep laughing at your delusions.

I think she only mentioned you :twak: :D ;)

[Aubs]

Are the ones on the Amstar site even true rockrails. They just look like tubesteps with modified brackets so they sit closer to the rocker panel.:rolleyes:

I actually really like the Rocky Road ones and will probably buy a set when I finish destroying my OEM ones :D if there is nothing better on the market. There's just those two items I think should be addressed.
I don't think what is pictured for "Rocker Panel Protection" is supposed to be highlighting the step looking object. I think we're supposed to be looking at something else, but I can't figure out what. I know the "Shock/Axle Skidplates" are pretty HD looking in person, because I remember laying under this vehicle and looking at them. I don't remember the rocker protection however.

[Sewie]

I don't think what is pictured for "Rocker Panel Protection" is supposed to be highlighting the step looking object.

Pretty sure it is.

From the Amstar site:


IMAGINE: Rocker Panel Protection.

The integrated side step and rocker panel protection uses 3/16-inch steel plating. Newly designed side step is three inches higher than the factory step providing additional ground clearance when the terrain becomes rough. The smooth underside allows your vehicle to slide over things that it might otherwise hang up on.


http://www.amstarfun.com/images/protection_00015.jpg

As I said before....They just look like tubesteps with modified brackets so they sit closer to the rocker panel.:rolleyes:

[Sewie]

Although, looking at the pic again it does look like there might be a plate on the underside of the step. They really need some better pics.

I still prefer the RR rails or the OEM ones.

[Aubs]

Oh, yeah. I missed the "Step" in the description. It is a bad photo though of whatever they are trying to show us.

[ChasH3]

okay, I finally put the rock rails and one set of U-steps on the H3... Here's a pic.....

[BABHUMV]

How easily can you remove that step? I know the stuff I went over it would catch quite easily.

[H3slate]

Here is another view of the Amstar rock rail. Shows the smooth underside which looks like is color matched with the rig.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k301/knappe18/H3_53Medium.jpg

Would be nice to slide over stuff, but being lower it would scrape a lot more.]

[Sewie]

Here is another view of the Amstar rock rail. Shows the smooth underside which looks like is color matched with the rig.

Would be nice to slide over stuff, but being lower it would scrape a lot more.

Nice find. That pic confirms what I thought. They just modified the tubesteps.:rolleyes: Check out the bracket.

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I think I'll pass on those.

[Zoomie]

WoW! I really like the Rocky Road frame rails. :perfect10s: Does anyone have these installed? I need to know if the top of the rail is higher than the OEM chrome POS that I now have? Reason I ask is my wiff is a squatty body who needs a running leap to get into the H3 as it is now.:shhh: (She doesn't read these forums, yet. :twak: Guess I could call the company and find out.

[Sewie]

WoW! I really like the Rocky Road frame rails. Does anyone have these installed?

Yes, BABHUMV's truck was used for the prototype. Don't know if anyone else has them yet.

I need to know if the top of the rail is higher than the OEM chrome POS that I now have?

Yes, they sit up against the rocker panel and the step portion actually angles up a bit.

[Zoomie]

Maybe I can get her a stepstool. :twak: I wonder if the UPC under body protection works with them?

[westhillsat]

How easily can you remove that step? I know the stuff I went over it would catch quite easily.

BAB, I have the steps. I took them off before we left for Moab. There are four nuts for each step. "Bolts" are permanently attached to the steps and they just slide through the holes in the rocker protection, I then just tighten the nuts with a socket wrench.

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[Zoomie]

HMMM Maybe these would work better with squatty body wiff. Are these OEM, or after market?:rolleyes:

[H3slate]

I found this description of the Amstar rocker panel protection

The integrated side step and rocker panel protection uses 3/16-inch steel plating. Newly designed side step is three inches higher than the factory step providing additional ground clearance when the terrain becomes rough. The smooth underside allows your vehicle to slide over things that it might otherwise hang up on.

this helps to show how high these steps sit.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k301/knappe18/H3_41.jpg

This pic is for the shock plate, but in the back you can see that the steps/rockpanels are not lower than the frame of the vehicle
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k301/knappe18/H3_52.jpg

So is the whole thing made of 3/16? or just the skid plate on the bottom? The Rocky Road rockrail is made entirely of 3/16. The oem rails don't specify how thick the steel is.

[DRTYFN]

I think she only mentioned you :twak: :D ;)
This goes waaaay beyond this site.:OWNED:

[HummBebe]

BUWAHAHAHA!!!!!! You must have me confused with your obsessed puppy. You keep telling yourself how everyone wants you and I'll keep laughing at your delusions. :giggling: :OWNED:

you doth protest too much...

[cestwick]

They only used 3 supports instead of four. The fourth set of holes on the frame rail were covered by a label so I'm guessing they missed them. Still very solid, but if the holes are there, might as well put a support there.

Also, one of the cables for the parking brake was run under one of the supports.

Have you talked to them about the forth set of support brackets?? I ordered a set yesterday and talked with one of there sales guys briefly but he didn't know what I was talking about exactly but said he would pass on the info.

Chris

[Sewie]

Have you talked to them about the forth set of support brackets?? I ordered a set yesterday and talked with one of there sales guys briefly but he didn't know what I was talking about exactly but said he would pass on the info.

Chris

Yes, I emailed Glenn at RR about it. He didn't mention why it was left off but I'm guessing they just didn't see the holes. They were covered by a label on the frame.

He did say they tested it as is and saw no flex. But he didn't say whether or not they would add the fourth support in the future.

[ChasH3]

Where can I get the Shock skid plates????? Called Amstar, they said I can only purchase from the dealer... The dealer (Parts Dept.) said they don't deal with Amstar.... :rant:

[HummerNewbie]

Called Amstar, they said I can only purchase from the dealer...

Biggest mistake they could have made :mad:

[ChasH3]

Yes, I emailed Glenn at RR about it. He didn't mention why it was left off but I'm guessing they just didn't see the holes. They were covered by a label on the frame.

He did say they tested it as is and saw no flex. But he didn't say whether or not they would add the fourth support in the future.

I know when I put the OEM rock rails on my H3... I had to peel away the labels on both sides... Otherwise you wouldn't even see the holes...:D

[GaryW]

Yes, I emailed Glenn at RR about it. He didn't mention why it was left off but I'm guessing they just didn't see the holes. They were covered by a label on the frame.

He did say they tested it as is and saw no flex. But he didn't say whether or not they would add the fourth support in the future.
I am thinking about ordering the Rocky Road "Rails" and was wondering if I would have to do any drilling in the frame or if all the holes line up? What would you say the difficulty in installing them are?

Thanks Gary in KY

[DRTYFN]

you doth protest too much...
Uhm... have you seen that dude?:OWNED:

[Sewie]

I am thinking about ordering the Rocky Road "Rails" and was wondering if I would have to do any drilling in the frame or if all the holes line up? What would you say the difficulty in installing them are?

Thanks Gary in KY

No they use the existing holes in the frame. I put the OEM ones on myself. Takes about 30 mins or so. Not really that difficult but an extra set of hands would help.

[GaryW]

No they use the existing holes in the frame. I put the OEM ones on myself. Takes about 30 mins or so. Not really that difficult but an extra set of hands would help.
Thanks for the information...

[HummerNewbie]

Uhm... have you seen that dude?:OWNED:

Yep, sure have. Doesn't look like a dude to me :p

[DRTYFN]

That's a load of makeup.:OWNED:

[Zoomie]

Stupid question time. Are the OEM rock rails any good?

[Sewie]

Stupid question time. Are the OEM rock rails any good?

Held up for me through the Rubicon. :D

Well, at least once. ;)

[Zoomie]

That should work. I guess they are compatible with the OEM under carriage protection?

[H3slate]

I just put the oem rock rails on. Very beefy. They are compatible with the oem under carriage protection.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k301/knappe18/IMG_1114Small.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k301/knappe18/IMG_1115Small.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k301/knappe18/IMG_1116Small.jpg

Took just under an hour to install both sides. I would recommend a second set of hands to hold the rails. The drivers side was harder because you had to work around the parking brake cables.

[Zoomie]

HMMM! Money, money, money. Too bad I don't have any more children to sell, and it takes too damn long to make new ones!:crying:

[DDWH]

nice:beerchug:

[timgco]

Stupid question time. Are the OEM rock rails any good?

Well, I can tell you that I stested the hell out of mine today. That bottom tube on the rck rails is very important.... and they did their job today very well. I stood ricks up under them, dropped on them, and slid them across many rocks today. The factory UCP held up very well also. Scratched to hell, but no bending or even dents. very good quality! Just think if you bought some Maink ones or some crap like that. oooohhhh, I wouldn't want that invoice.

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Looking good, H3slate. Now I know what mine will look like when I get them :D

Went on the Spring Creek run with timgco today and his factory rock rails were a godsend. They did their job perfectly under extreme conditions.

[H3slate]

Looking good, H3slate. Now I know what mine will look like when I get them :D

Went on the Spring Creek run with timgco today and his factory rock rails were a godsend. They did their job perfectly under extreme conditions.

Have any pics? The pics from your first trip were awesome! :perfect10s:

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Yeah, didn't get as many as last time, but I posted them in the Photos section. Here's the link ...

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20128

[Roktoy]

Those amstars rails are made of 3/16" steel so it should be pretty strong. It think thats what other rock rails are made out of.

[HummBebe]

Those amstars rails are made of 3/16" steel so it should be pretty strong. It think thats what other rock rails are made out of.

Is that akin to 120 wall???

[reddevil]

What design issues did u have? I saw them and wanted to get them, they say they are guaranteed for life.

[wpage]

Looking Good!!:beerchug:

[cestwick]

Got the Rocky Road rails in today and mounted(sorry no pics yet). I like them alot they are well built, strong(heavy), look great. I like the extra 3inches out the side of the truck. will take pics soon. Shipping weight was 110lbs.:perfect10s:

[Sewie]

Excellent!! :D Post pics. DO NOW!!!!!! :twak:

[dochummer]

I just got the Rocky-Road rails installed on my H2 today. I like them. Of course, you can't retain the factory U-steps...so we'll see how the family holds up without the lower step to get into the rig. So far, the 5 year old and 2 year old can get in without problems....:D

[dеiтайожни]

For the H3s w/rocky road rails:


Would you say the extra 3" provides adequate ding (parking lot) protection, allowing these to be a suitable replacement for the side assist steps? That's the only reason I keep my side steps on, and I need rock rails...so that would work out. Hard to tell from the pictures if it sticks out further than the door or not.

[westhillsat]

For the H3s w/rocky road rails:


Would you say the extra 3" provides adequate ding (parking lot) protection, allowing these to be a suitable replacement for the side assist steps? That's the only reason I keep my side steps on, and I need rock rails...so that would work out. Hard to tell from the pictures if it sticks out further than the door or not.

Dei,

Babhumv's stuck out far enough you could get your foot on them to get into the rig. But they don't stick way out.

[Sewie]

Dei,

Babhumv's stuck out far enough you could get your foot on them to get into the rig. But they don't stick way out.

Yep, they stick out a couple inches from the door. And they're angled up just a little bit.

[dochummer]

Just enough room to use as a step.

[www.miami3drenders.com]

this is my underbody protection
sorry for the cell picture
:beerchug:



http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6772/humerny0.jpg

[raptorman53]

Well that does it. I'm gonna have to get some now:D

[dеiтайожни]

Well that does it. I'm gonna have to get some now:D

:iagree:

[Urban Ops]

this is my underbody protection
sorry for the cell picture
:beerchug:



http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6772/humerny0.jpg


Where do you get these?

[HummBebe]

The Dealer....call Tommy :beerchug:

[Urban Ops]

The Dealer....call Tommy :beerchug:

And I found them here:

http://www.gmaccessories-direct.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_144_145&products_id=3727

Thanks.

[DDWH]

COOL!:dancingbanana:

[wpage]

Niiche:clapping:

[H2ummer]

Fred Beans Pontiac. Shipping is very reasonable and Gene Culley is great to work with. I use them for H3 parts as well as Vette parts.

Assist Steps GM-12498473 - $181.13
Rocker Panel Protector GM-12498471 - $458.85
Under Body Shield GM-12498474 - $281.75
Roof Marker Lamps GM-19156090 - $430.68
Floor Mats GM-12498903 - $79.70
Grill/Brush Guard GM-12498478 - $438.73

Gene Culley [gculley@fredbeans.com]
Director Of Internet Parts Sales
Fred Beans Family of Dealerships
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