Tire Rotation Question / Dealer Rant

[TrojanH3]

OK,

Just had the H3 in for a couple things including an oil change and tire rotation. These are things I usually do myself but just don't have the time these days and am generally skeptical of the dealer.

So here's the tire rotation question. Does it make a big difference if you don't swap sides? I numbered the wheels under the center caps so I could confirm that the dealer rotated them correctly. Well, they didn't rotate them per the manual. I have always opted to include the spare in the tire rotation so the order (per the manual) Front Left goes to spare, Rear Left goes to Front Left, Spare goes to Rear Right, Rear Right goes to Front Right and Front Right goes to Rear Left. The dealer swapped Front and Rear on the Right side and moved the Rear Left up to the Front and put the spare on the Rear Left. Does any of this REALLY matter? I'm annoyed that I paid them to do it and they didn't even follow their manual.

And after finding this out I also noticed the dealer didn't put the locking lug back on the spare ... what the hell.

If I do this myself does any one know the lug torque spec for the H3?

Thanks,
K

[ree]

Typical. A while back I marked mine and asked the dealer to rotate when I had it in for other service. They did front to back only, no cross over.

I called and told them they did it wrong. The service writer told me, "no we did it right, per specs." I countered, "hmmm, they're marked so I can tell which are which, and NO you did not do it right." His reply, "let me talk to the tech." A moment later, "he said he did it the right way."

When you're dealing this this kind of mentality, you can't help but find the time to do this stuff yourself.

I'm sure the techs are just being lazy by doing one side at a time. But you wonder if they're doing it intentionally, hoping your tires wear sooner and that you'll come to them for replacements.

And yes it does matter if it's done right.


If I do this myself does any one know the lug torque spec for the H3?
Doesn't it say in the manual? RTM.

[ree]

From the Capacities and Specifications section:
Wheel Nut Torque
100 lb ft
140 N?m

[TrojanH3]

From the Capacities and Specifications section:
Wheel Nut Torque
100 lb ft
140 N?m

Thanks,
Should have looked for it first.
K

[f5fstop]

Forget putting the spare into the rotation, keeps the spare looking good, and if you don't include the spare, you DO NOT have to reset the tire pressure system. If you do include the spare you need to perform the sensor relearn or else the system will continue to monitor the spare, and miss one of the ground tires (something I just proved out this week:fdance: ).

For four tires, it should go as:
right rear to right front
right front to left rear
left rear to left front
left front to right rear

In other words rears go forward, fronts go to the the opposite rear.

[wannabeH3]

do you remember the tire relearning process?

[HummBebe]

RTM. :p

[Gooey Gaybob]

Forget putting the spare into the rotation, keeps the spare looking good, and if you don't include the spare, you DO NOT have to reset the tire pressure system. If you do include the spare you need to perform the sensor relearn or else the system will continue to monitor the spare, and miss one of the ground tires (something I just proved out this week:fdance: ).

For four tires, it should go as:
right rear to right front
right front to left rear
left rear to left front
left front to right rear

In other words rears go forward, fronts go to the the opposite rear.

Ah, someone knows their stuff, well at least one of you retards around here has some sense. Due to tire pull issues associated with crossing tires, some dealer techs choose not to cross tires at all to prevent complaints from the customers about "ever since you rotated my tires my car pulls to the right". Some high end car dealerships actually tell their techs not to cross tires during a rotation to prevent this complaint too. The rotation scenario above is the right way to do it. The rear tires have run in that direction for some time and should be brought straight to the front, and the front tires (which really need to be crossed for wear issues) will be in the rear where they won't have any effect even if they cause a slight pull. After 6,000 miles the belts in the old front (now rear) tires will have settled in and usually don't cause a pull if they are left to rotate in the same direction during a rotation.

[Sewie]

do you remember the tire relearning process?

Turn key to on, turn headlight switch from auto to on 4 times. Two honks. Let air out DS front for 10s, honk. Repeat clockwise (PS front next). Turn key to lock after last honk.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

RTM. :p

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