JET or PCM for less???? Need direction.

[HoosierH3]

Hey all. New member here. Been lurking in the shadows for a couple days. A lot of good info and people on here. Sorry If I'm to lengthy.

I'm wanting a pcm mod, but not sure If I should purchase a JET Chip or do the PCM for Less option. I've read the threads on here for PCM and it looks like they are creating what I'm looking for, but the idea of a JET module that I can remove and sell in a couple years to get some money back is promising too. My 06 H3 is leased and will most likely get turned back in at the end.

My major concern with PCM for less is that my H3 is dealer serviced almost monthly through my lease (oil changes and tire rotations). I hate to mess with reprogramming if the dealer reflashes for what ever reason. (They've updated the stock program a few times allready without my prior knowledge) (They have the attitude that all the performance issues we are having are all in my head and that my H3 is performing perfectly...BS) It would be much easier for me to just remove the JET prior to service and plug it back in when they're done.

On the other hand, I'm looking for a bit better mileage(avg 13.5 now), firmer shifts, corrected odometer(increased tire size), smoother idle, quicker throttle response, more low end, blah blah blah. I've heard no real feedback on JET as to wether JET will accomplish all this or just give you a bit better feel. I've also heard that JET will help, but may actually lower your mpg.

I've totally confused myself. What say you????
Anybody have a JET module on their H3 or JET experience? Can anybody help me?
Much appreciated.

JET or PCMforless????

HoosierH3 :confused:

[HummBebe]

I checked JET's web site, I see nothing for the H3. Can you post the link? Please?

[HoosierH3]

The JET website is not up to date. It only reflects a spacer for H3.

I spoke with JET customer service today after talking with one of JET's distributers. The distributer is selling the same part number as they sell for the I5 3.5 Colorado/Canyon per JET's instruction. Same exact part number (JET20305) stage 1.

Per JET customer service..they are using the same exact part number for Hummer H3 as earlier Colorado. I confirmed this today with JET. According to JET tech service, "the H3 factory programming is nearly identical to 3.5 Colorados. Part number 20305 works on both with the same results." Wether this is true or false, I do not know, but this is JET's claim.

After reading many threads here pertaining to PCM for less, it does sound that both vehicle are set up similar from the factory, but not identical. Close enough though, that JET's module works in both vehicles.

JET tech service did tell me though that their module only adjusts for fuel/air ratio and timing. No mention or consideration for shift patterns, rough idle, or odometer recalibration obviously.

[HummBebe]

I think it's all a croc.

I'm so sick of this subject.

Could someone just come out with a "real" tune already?

When someone messes/programs a PCM, BCM etc, that isn't an expert on the vehicle, then I wouldn't trust them, or their "close enough" attitude.

"Close but no cigar" is more appropriate. :rant: off

[deserth3]

Hummbebe you seemed stressed. MAybe some dancing bananas will help you relax.:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:
ANd all the modes done to your ride have been crash worthyness tested by whom????


HoosierH3 asks a valid question. Don't know if you'll get an answer because I haven't heard of anyone trying JET's system. You may be the first. I went with the PCMforless option and have been happy with it. An increase in milage by 1 to 2 mpg. Depending on how I drive. It shifts better and that anoying lag when you start to let off the gas and have to hammer it again is gone.
In short I'm happy with what PCMforless did.

[HummBebe]

Hummbebe you seemed stressed. MAybe some dancing bananas will help you relax.:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:
ANd all the modes done to your ride have been crash worthyness tested by whom????


HoosierH3 asks a valid question. Don't know if you'll get an answer because I haven't heard of anyone trying JET's system. You may be the first. I went with the PCMforless option and have been happy with it. An increase in milage by 1 to 2 mpg. Depending on how I drive. It shifts better and that anoying lag when you start to let off the gas and have to hammer it again is gone.
In short I'm happy with what PCMforless did.

Not stressed :fdance:

My mods are more like a battering ram, so crash test is not necessary. In addition, H2O Hummers has been producing this type of equipment long before Hummers even existed, (mostly on HD Fords and Chevy trucks).

My issue with these types of programs are this:

They have not been dyno tested. Essentially it is a computer alteration that is purely "edumacated" guesswork. While there are improvements, I'll admit it, they are not optimal, because there is no four wheel dyno test to back it up.

I'll wait until there is some actual dyno testing before I use this type of upgrade.

A dyno on a 2 WD Colorado does not work for me.

[BuzzH3]

I'm not sure why some folks have been so adamant about dyno testing the PCMForLess tune. The real noticable seat-of-the-pants difference is in optimizing the shift points. By fixing the shift points, you are essentially putting more of the available HP & Torque to the ground. To me, it's more of how it feels than what the numbers say. There have been several members on this forum that have done the PCMForLess tune and have nothing but good things to say about it. I guess it's all in what you expect from it. It's not going to be a huge increase in power, but it will likely be a noticable one. There are dyno tests on the K&N intake system that say it produces an extra 16HP. I had one of these for a while and I noticed absolutely no increase in SOTP HP. The only thing I got was more noise. I plan on doing the PCMForLess tune sometime soon. I look at it this way. It costs less than the K&N Intake and if it at least has some noticable results, then it is well worth the price.

[HummBebe]

I would choose to learn from those who have been doing this long before we came along. Those who use/wheel the H2's, Chevy Trucks, Fords, Dodge etc.

They are not that popular among those who are "in the know". It is best to research the industry as a whole. Not everybody believes in it.

[HummBebe]

Looks like our PCM for less friends are popular here too...:giggling:

http://www.coloradofans.com/viewtopic.php?t=44414

[Steve - SanJose]

interesting

[HummBebe]

Now these are guys have HP Tuners, and if they are local, will custom tune your I-5 for sooper cheap....

http://www.coloradofans.com/viewtopic.php?t=30952

[ChevyHighPerformance]

HummBebe's link is the first negative thread on another site that I have seen regarding PCMforLess. Some HPTuners info regarding the coloradofans.com listing of people with HPTuners - the cost to buy two credits to tune a single I5 VIN is ~$100 and the cost for six credits to do a complete year of a single type vehicle is ~$300. (The colorado/canyon and H3 are considered different vehicles as far as HPTuners goes.) My point is that the people listed with HPTuners may charge a little more to cover the additional costs for credits because they probably have licenses for colorado/canyon not the H3.

I don't think the JET chip will alter the shifts are recalibrate for different tire sizes. So I don't think JET will work for you.

It looks like you have three choices:
1) Buy HPTuners and do the tune yourself for ~$500.
2) Mail order tune - from PCMforLess, for example, for $199 + shipping
3) Contact one of the people near you with HPTuners from HummBebe's link.

[lotus4s]

Looks like our PCM for less friends are popular here too...:giggling:

http://www.coloradofans.com/viewtopic.php?t=44414


Bebe, not to be confrontational, but that's just another case of one person who hasn't personally tried it saying pcm4less is crap because he heard it from other "unnamed" sources.

To date, I still haven't seen anyone who has bought the tune say anthing negative about it, have you?

You mentioned 4 wheel dyno in a previous post, what would you like to see from a dyno that would convince you one way or the other?

To me and most others here the bottom line is does it improve the driveability of the truck and make it more pleasureable and the resounding answer is yes....

[HummBebe]

Are you guys all believing that the Canyon/Colorado is the same truck?

What about gearing?
Power to weight ratios?
You can't put 35's on a C/C.

The H3's are HEAVY. C/C is a truck with a bed on it.


I'm not saying it does not change it, I'm asking how we know it is optimal?

I'd rather have a stranger with a laptop ride around with me in several different driving situations collecting data, and optimize it real life.

If you go back to that forum and do some research, there are a good number of people complaining about it.

Check it out.

[ETD]

Going for the PCMforless doohickey myself. Won't be shy to let y'all know if it did nothing, worsened, or, improved things. (BTW, tried to call twice about something, no big deal but, got a voice recording each time - so customer service isn't exemplary if you'd care to know.)

The way I figured was I wanted to spend some money on the truck and the choices were new air-intake, exhaust, or computer software. I didn't really need any data such as dyno because these have really been more for marketing. Have y'all looked at the K& N dyno for example? The RPM that the truck must function in inorder to see a difference is NOT REAL WORLD. So why does it seem to me that people put in new air intake system without batting an eye lid (same with exhaust) as if it should do anything to the truck especially when the OEM setup is ALREADY COLD AIR :confused: :confused: :confused: .
Anyways, what I'm saying, is sometimes decisions to "accessorize" the truck don't have to be logical. How else can you explain all the BLING??;)

[ETD]

BTW, the other software solution is...http://www.teakatoys.com/Hummer_H3_Computer_Upgrade_by_Z_Performance_p/z-h3comp.htm

Sounds similar to PCMforless. I wonder if someone would consider comparing the two. Hmmm....

[Steve - SanJose]

Going for the PCMforless doohickey myself. Won't be shy to let y'all know if it did nothing, worsened, or, improved things. (BTW, tried to call twice about something, no big deal but, got a voice recording each time - so customer service isn't exemplary if you'd care to know.)

The way I figured was I wanted to spend some money on the truck and the choices were new air-intake, exhaust, or computer software. I didn't really need any data such as dyno because these have really been more for marketing. Have y'all looked at the K& N dyno for example? The RPM that the truck must function in inorder to see a difference is NOT REAL WORLD. So why does it seem to me that people put in new air intake system without batting an eye lid (same with exhaust) as if it should do anything to the truck especially when the OEM setup is ALREADY COLD AIR :confused: :confused: :confused: .
Anyways, what I'm saying, is sometimes decisions to "accessorize" the truck don't have to be logical. How else can you explain all the BLING??;)

I'll wait patiently for your opinion, appreciate your objective approach to the mod.

[HoosierH3]

Ok...Sorry i opened this can of worms again. :giggling: I realize it has been debated multiple other times here and this thread is starting to look exactly the same as the other threads regarding PCM for less. I was just hoping for some input on JET, but obviously, no body has tried one.

HummBebe-I can't quite understand the negativity and doubt from you, since you have no real direct experience with PCM for less (It looks to me that you never used them?) nor any other programming company from what I've read on this site (Looks to me that you are running the stock computer waiting for the world to end that maybe a "proven" "dyno'd" program will arrive with the second coming??? It seams that you are out to bash PCM for some reason. Yes, Multi Million dollar Dyno testing would look great on paper, but what would it really prove? Bottom line, I'm looking for seat of the pants return for my dollar. As it was stated, new intake systems and aftermarket exhaust provide the majority of their performance at WOT which is just not realistic for a daily driver. I'm looking to improve the daily drivability of a poorly tuned stock factory vehicle.

I don't quite trust the other site that was mentioned, http://www.coloradofans.com/viewtopic.php?t=44414. It seams they censor anything they don't agree with and a bunch of Colorado owners running around tuning each other's vehicles for the cost of their gas does not seem to "proven" either.

I think this post has led my decision toward using PCM for less as their legit competitors are charging considerably more. I've got a service date coming up next week, after that, I'll be contacting PCM. I'll post back afterward with my confirmed results.
Hoosier
:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

[westhillsat]

TOTALLY HAPPY WITH MY PCMFORLESS TUNE!!!!

And if ChevyHighPerformance is satisfied with his research on them, so am I.

AND I FIND IT PRETTY SAD, WHOEVER PUT THE ORIGINAL THREAD IN THE WOODSHED
GET REAL!!!

[westhillsat]

Ok...Sorry i opened this can of worms again. :giggling: I realize it has been debated multiple other times here and this thread is starting to look exactly the same as the other threads regarding PCM for less. I was just hoping for some input on JET, but obviously, no body has tried one.

HummBebe-I can't quite understand the negativity and doubt from you, since you have no real direct experience with PCM for less (It looks to me that you never used them?) nor any other programming company from what I've read on this site (Looks to me that you are running the stock computer waiting for the world to end that maybe a "proven" "dyno'd" program will arrive with the second coming??? It seams that you are out to bash PCM for some reason. Yes, Multi Million dollar Dyno testing would look great on paper, but what would it really prove? Bottom line, I'm looking for seat of the pants return for my dollar. As it was stated, new intake systems and aftermarket exhaust provide the majority of their performance at WOT which is just not realistic for a daily driver. I'm looking to improve the daily drivability of a poorly tuned stock factory vehicle.

I don't quite trust the other site that was mentioned, http://www.coloradofans.com/viewtopic.php?t=44414. It seams they censor anything they don't agree with and a bunch of Colorado owners running around tuning each other's vehicles for the cost of their gas does not seem to "proven" either.

I think this post has led my decision toward using PCM for less as their legit competitors are charging considerably more. I've got a service date coming up next week, after that, I'll be contacting PCM. I'll post back afterward with my confirmed results.
Hoosier
:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:


There are several threads on PCM for Less on Hummerforums.com and everyone with an H3 that got the tune is happy with it. They have been using the tune since last fall.

Too bad someone here feels they have to hide the previous thread on this site..... :lame: :lame:

I haven't seen one H3 owner that got the tune that wasn't satisfied with it.

[HummBebe]

HummBebe-I can't quite understand the negativity and doubt from you,



You don't have to take my opinion, if you are reading it, so personally. It's just my opinion.

When people start getting defensive about their product, it signals to me that they are deeply insecure about it for some reason.

Personally, I have grown up around "hot rods" and race cars, and so my thoughts may be sort of old school, but my father, who is a genius when it come to these things, thinks that it is not likely the soundest thing to do.

If you have heard about "balancing and blueprinting" from the old days, that is exactly what GM has done, balanced the drivetrain.

Just because there is "power left on the table" doesn't mean you should utilize it.

In my opinion, unless the program is changed in real life, for real life situations, I have no use for it.

Doesn't mean you don't have a use for it. I hope your "seat of the pants" thrill makes you happy. :cool:

[HummBebe]

AND I FIND IT PRETTY SAD, WHOEVER PUT THE ORIGINAL THREAD IN THE WOODSHED
GET REAL!!!




;)

[HoosierH3]

[QUOTE=

Just because there is "power left on the table" doesn't mean you should utilize it.

[/QUOTE]


HUUUH? WOW! LMFAO!!!
Yup, everybody is entitled to their opinion and my opinion is there is never enough power to utilize. That power left on the table is a waste.

I'm sure GM, as much as I love GM, did not get everything "balanced" when they designed and rolled out the 06 H3. If so, they would not have rolled out the 3.7 for the second production year. ;) There would also be no need for the ALPHA since the original 3.5 had "power left on the table".

I'm not taking your comments personally. I personally don't care what your opinion is as you have no personal experience to back your opinion.:clapping:

Don't utilize the power! lol :lame:
:jump: :jump: :jump:

[Steve - SanJose]

;)

Was it an infocommercial?:giggling:

[HummBebe]

HUUUH? WOW! LMFAO!!!
Yup, everybody is entitled to their opinion and my opinion is there is never enough power to utilize. That power left on the table is a waste.

That's your opinon.

I'm sure GM, as much as I love GM, did not get everything "balanced" when they designed and rolled out the 06 H3.


Are you sure about that?


If so, they would not have rolled out the 3.7 for the second production year. ;) There would also be no need for the ALPHA since the original 3.5 had "power left on the table".


They made changes to the power on the H3, not by changing the shift points, or the programming. They changed the bore. That my friend, is the "right way" to upgrade power in an engine.


I'm not taking your comments personally. I personally don't care what your opinion is as you have no personal experience to back your opinion.


Yes you are, because you now are needing to defend yourself by insulting me. So here, in case you have not gotten one of these yet....

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/STFUBunny.jpg

Don't utilize the power! lol :lame:


You are an *******.

[HoosierH3]

That's your opinon.

Yes it is. As I allready stated.


Are you sure about that?


Yup. Pretty damn sure.


They made changes to the power on the H3, not by changing the shift points, or the programming. They changed the bore. That my friend, is the "right way" to upgrade power in an engine.


"upgrade"??? More like "rebuild" "modify" or "replace". I'm positive GM would not appreciate me boring out my 3.5 as it's a lease. A custom tune by definition is more of an "upgrade" than reboring the engine to a larger displacement.


Yes you are, because you now are needing to defend yourself by insulting me. So here, in case you have not gotten one of these yet....

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/STFUBunny.jpg

"Defend myself by insulting you"???? What? I never insulted you. You on the other hand have become severally defensive and full of insult in order to defend your weak stance on the whole tuning deal. When you have some "real" info, Hummbebe dear, ie. dyno's, charts, graphs, expert witnesses, actual experience, I will then accept your glorious opinion's and everybody on this site will quit laughing their axxes off at your mundane postings. Unfortunately, you have become a broken record posting the same b.s. over and over as in the previous posts. I'm sure your father was/is a genious of HP as you state, unfortuantely not much of that genious was passed down. Good luck in your search for true HP. :fdance:



You are an *******.

No! You are! :) Get over yourself Ms. Negativitly and cheer up darn it!
:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

Best Friends Forever! ;)

By the way, a sincere thank you to all that have posted legit feedback and opinions based on experience. Thank you.
Hoosier :beerchug:

[westhillsat]

;)

:p

Here come the dancing bananas

:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

[HoosierH3]

:p

Here come the dancing bananas

:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

I just love those dang Bananas!
:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

[Steve - SanJose]

Disco banana thread, alright.:dancingbanana:

[HummBebe]

No! You are! Get over yourself Ms. Negativitly and cheer up darn it!


Best Friends Forever! ;)

By the way, a sincere thank you to all that have posted legit feedback and opinions based on experience. Thank you.
Hoser :beerchug:

phixed :fdance:

:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

[Demo]

PCM who, V-8 what. :giggling:

Don't mess with the Queen, that's just not very smart.


For real, GFY and find something else to talk about. You can PM West (nice guy, my friend), he has that thingy and likes it. Otherwise you know where to stick it.

[Demo]

Bebe, Alena likes the bunny:giggling: , kids are so darn cute.

[HummBebe]

"Defend myself by insulting you"???? What? I never insulted you.

You on the other hand have become severally defensive and full of insult in order to defend your weak stance on the whole tuning deal. When you have some "real" info

Hummbebe dear, ie. dyno's, charts, graphs, expert witnesses, actual experience, I will then accept your glorious opinion's and everybody on this site will quit laughing their axxes off at your mundane postings. Unfortunately, you have become a broken record posting the same b.s. over and over as in the previous posts. I'm sure your father was/is a genious of HP as you state, unfortuantely not much of that genious was passed down. Good luck in your search for true HP.

How fkcing dare you.....

You are an a$$hole. You have no more information to back up the positive, than I do to back up the negative. I at least know someone who has been in this industry for years and years, that thinks it's a sham.

There are plenty of experts in the field that think this is crap. I believe them. I have provided that proof in previous threads.

I actually have a superchip in my Mustang, an '05 GT and I hate it. It is definitely faster, but it idles rough and sounds like the timing is off.

I am taking it out. I should have never messed with it.

And for the last time GFY you butthurt sensitive little flower.

[HoosierH3]

How fkcing dare you.....

Real nice. You eat from that hole too, Troll?

You are an a$$hole.

I endever to be like you.

You have no more information to back up the positive, than I do to back up the negative.

Never said I did. But as you just stated, you have very little to no information to back up the crap that falls from your lips. I was looking for legit experiences with Jet or PCM, not b.s. hipe from nincompoops.

I at least know someone who has been in this industry for years and years, that thinks it's a sham.

Who? Your daddy? You know everybody, but can't name them? I can name a crapload of people that do believe in it, including career mechanics. This isn't 1950 anymore honey. There's a lot more to performance than just boring out your cylinders.

There are plenty of experts in the field that think this is crap.

Name them. I bet they haven't worked on a car in the past 20 years.

I believe them.

Of course you do. You probably believe Al Gore invented the internet too.

I have provided that proof in previous threads.

Yea? Where. Let's see some direct links. Oh that's right, you can't!

I've read enough of your threads to know your full of **** and opinions as big as your ass. All you do is blow smoke at other members with legit questions and comments and overbear their threads.

I actually have a superchip in my Mustang an '05 GT

WHAT????? LOL :jump: You detest them, they're just wrong, but you haven't removed it? :confused: What? Don't know how to remove it? Of course not, maybe your daddy could help you? Surprise you haven't bored it out, cuz that's the right way to get more hp! lol

It is definitely faster,

Of course it's faster. That's the whole purpose! lol But, how could it be faster when chips and programming are busll****??? LOL

but it idles rough and sounds like the timing is off.

Then get your mouth off the tailpipe!


I am taking it out. I should have never messed with it.

That's what your daddy said the first night he met your momma.

And for the last time GFY you butthurt sensitive little flower.

LOL Now that's just plain funny! :)

Your amazing.:dancingbanana: Good luck in life. You need it!
I've never seen such a bitter, down on life, pathetic excuse of a human being. Your a know it all pile of crap. Maybe someday you'll wake up and realize how worhtless you are.

Nope. I doubt it. Your inability to express yourself in an appropriate manner without lowering yourself to insults and vulgarity reflects your ignorance, insecurity, and lack of education.

Do you even own a Hummer or do you troll websites looking for fights because your jobless, have nothing better to do, and your monthly welfare check is already spent? The only vehicle you probably own is the single wide your living in. You probably detest PCM for less because you can't afford them and they have real friends, unlike yourself.

What a waste of a perfectly good website...Your just a TROLL! ;)
LOL
:yawn: :popcorn:
:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

[HoosierH3]

PCM who, V-8 what. :giggling:

Don't mess with the Queen, that's just not very smart.


For real, GFY and find something else to talk about. You can PM West (nice guy, my friend), he has that thingy and likes it. Otherwise you know where to stick it.


You must be HummBebe's daddy! Nice to meet you.:giggling:

[Demo]

Hey Hoser, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, go buy your stupid PCM magic beans and have a coke and a smile. Then do the world a favor and jump off a cliff. Didn't your mama teach you to be nice to ladies. Or were you left in a dumpster. Maybe that is why you have the nerve to talk to a woman, that you don't even know, in the horrible manner that you have. Please go the **** away.

[Demo]

Fella I'd be more than happy to meet you, now go back to sucking your thumb.

[HummBebe]

OOOOOHHHHHHH looky that, it's a troll....but more likely an A/E.


Ok. You got me this time. :OWNED:


Let's stop feeding the troll ....

[HoosierH3]

:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:
HummBebe = TROLL

member troll-nothing to say and too much time on her hands:violin:

:shhh:

[westhillsat]

Hey Hoser or um Loser time to run along now.

Bebe could out wheel you any day of the week.

Oh and let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

Hit the road face first.


38432

[HoosierH3]

:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:


;)

[Steve - SanJose]

And now will we return to the regularly scheduled infocommercial.....

[ETD]

Whoa. That thread degraded fast. :(

Anyways, I don't supposed it matters much now that I just put the reprogrammed computer back into the Blue Dragon. First of, it restarted right away which may seem like no big deal but believe me that loaner PCM that they sent me did not start right away (or even on the 6th start attempt)! How is the Dragon running? I want to say that it seems better but that may be wishful thinking so let me get a few miles with it and I'll submit my 2 cents...although now I'm skeert to :o :p :giggling:

[HoosierH3]

Good info ETD! Now that's what I'm talking about! Real feedback from Real experience. Sorry about the relearn process, one of my concerns too. Glad to hear it's not all tea and roses as some here would read having no issues as false and impossible. :giggling:
Actually some issues with the learn process of the pcm. Good stuff. Thank you EDT! :clapping:
Please post back after a tank or two. Let us know on the performace and mileage. Thank you.
Hoosier
:beerchug:

[Steve - SanJose]

Good info ETD! Now that's what I'm talking about! Real feedback from Real experience. Sorry about the relearn process, one of my concerns too. Glad to hear it's not all tea and roses as some here would read having no issues as false and impossible. :giggling:
Actually some issues with the learn process of the pcm. Good stuff. Thank you EDT! :clapping:
Please post back after a tank or two. Let us know on the performace and mileage. Thank you.
Hoosier
:beerchug:

Yea and?........

[ETD]

Yea and?........
:jump:

Easy there. Been out of town. Had the truck in the shop for level and lock.

So far... there has been a VERY noticeable difference in acceleration. This is not surprising given the stock's inertia. Whether the programming is worth $289 for those in the know I can't say. Me? I would not want to spend time to get the doohickey that will allow me to "do it myself". To me getting my desktop or laptop worked on would be about the same price. Basically, if this increased in performance proves itself on the road to MOAB this Summer, it would have been worth it for moi. Otherwise, I might just be self-fulfilling my wish now :p .

Can't say about MPG at this time.

[sltbluh3]

Well I lived in Charlotte up until 4 weeks ago so I bought a tune from them and was able to drive over to there place have them flash the PCM. I then pulled an enclosed trailer weighing in at 3000 lbs running 70-80 mph on interstate got 13.8 to 15.1. 1 round trip of back and forth to work normal milage was 18.7 it bumped up to 19.6. Moved to the Orlando area ard I'm in 20 miles of stop and going and getting 16 mpg. Pickup is noticably quicker shift point changed to handle the trailer better and a stiffer shift as well. So far i'm very happy with it.
:perfect10s::beerchug:

[H3.007]

So has anyone ever had the PCMforLess or JET tune dynoed? I think I missed the answer, if it was posted, due to the flying fingers and fruit :dancingbanana:

[gr8hntr]

i have the pcmforless tune and it is gr8
the 3 runs alot better now
the difference is night and day
i own a towing and repair (mechanical) business (over 20 years now)
so i do have the background to make that statement
even the dealer said it was awesome after driving it
best running 3 he has every driven

[Pewterbird]

My experiance with Jet Chip was not with a H3, but it definantly was not worth it the money. I woudn't buy one again.

[H3.007]

Great feedback! Thanks for the heads up. For those who used PCMFORLESS, what was the manner in which you contacted them? I think I am ready to bite.

Thx! -C

[Urban Ops]

Great feedback! Thanks for the heads up. For those who used PCMFORLESS, what was the manner in which you contacted them? I think I am ready to bite.

Thx! -C

Just go to there website. Get in touch with Kelly. I pulled mine out and shipped it 2 day UPS on a Monday in California, got it back on Thursday. I didn't opt for the exchange or loaner. Super fast turn around. I'm very pleased with the results. I can't say there was a increase in mileage but there was in performance without a doubt.

[6pack]

I had a Jet in a past truck. And same as Pewter, I wouldn't buy it again. I didn't notice any change in performance or mpg.

I've had the pcmforless in for about a month now in the H3. It was worth the money. I can notice a difference in performance (not huge but noticeable) and have noticed about a 1mpg increase over 3 or 4 tank fulls. I did the loaner program and it was painless. All told it was about a two week process. The security relearn happened just the way the instructions said and I didn't need to do it when I got mine back. My change oil message was on while I had the loaner but it went away when I put back in the original. Kelly was the person there I dealt with. She was quick to respond to my many emails. It was a good buying expereince.

[Dutch]

I can't believe people are that ignorant self centerd and moronic to go as far as to ban PCMforless from these forums. They are a legitament business with a great and proven working product. To think people are that childish and idiotic and just plain stupid makes me wonder if they bring that attitude on the road with them while driving...and to think, this is "supposedly" the "best" Hummer forum on the web.. PLEASE!! Hummer Guy is a great and knowledgeable person, but after hearing something like this, how in the hell can you sincerely say this place is #1???? It just utterly repulses me to be honest,You will find nothing but friendship and honesty from Kelly and Alvin, not to mention a teriffic product and costumer service.

and now for the encore...
:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

[Steve - SanJose]

So that's where the regularly scheduled infocommercial went.

Note: there are correct locations for legitimate businesses on this website.

[6pack]

Interesting. I didn't know they were banned.

[H3HUMMER]

PCM for less rocks :perfect10s:

[H3HUMMER]

why where they banned
That is sad
to me they are #1
well i got mine done so a lot of pepole do not know what they are missing.

[Dutch]

why where they banned
That is sad
to me they are #1
well i got mine done so a lot of pepole do not know what they are missing.
What is sad are the few inbred mindless gnomes that walk in the shadows of the overly steroided she-man that was put to shame by Kelly.

Infact they even put her thread in the woodshed. (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24540&page=11&highlight=pcmforless) Because they couldn't win the argument..pretty shallow minded group here.


PCMforless RULES

[gr8hntr]

thats a shame to move that thread so other members can't
get the most out of their 3

[H3Carlos]

Mine should be getting here during the week.
WooHoo!:dancingbanana:

[gr8hntr]

Mine should be getting here during the week.
WooHoo!:dancingbanana:

ur gonna love it
congrats

[Steve - SanJose]

Still sounds like a vague infocommercial...

[Steve - SanJose]

Super Baby, cool!:D :D

[gr8hntr]

Mine should be getting here during the week.
WooHoo!:dancingbanana:

did ya get it yet ?