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HummBebe
06-12-2007, 11:05 PM
Should I go with OEM replacements?

Is there anythiing better out there?

What should I expect to pay for OEM Pads?

What should I expect to pay for an upgraded pad?
ChiHummer3
06-12-2007, 11:08 PM
How many miles did you get outta the factory pads??
HummBebe
06-12-2007, 11:13 PM
almost 52K
HummBebe
06-12-2007, 11:37 PM
:twak: Just got a quote from the dealer...$530.00 for front and rear pads.
Mr_Pat
06-12-2007, 11:45 PM
:twak: Just got a quote from the dealer...$530.00 for front and rear pads.
Holly SH!T !!! I assume thats installed? I would do it me self. I wonder how much just the pads are?
HummBebe
06-12-2007, 11:54 PM
Yep...installed.

Pads are 150 Front and 140 rear.
Desert Dan
06-12-2007, 11:54 PM
Usually the front brakes wear out sooner than the rear brakes.
There is no need to replace the rear pads if they are still good.

I don't like turning the rotors unless they are scored.
HummBebe
06-12-2007, 11:55 PM
They said I needed both.
Steve - SanJose
06-13-2007, 12:03 AM
52K. Must be that extra weight (of the add-ons to the H3 I mean, I wanted to make that perfectly clear).http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif
f5fstop
06-13-2007, 12:37 AM
Usually the front brakes wear out sooner than the rear brakes.
There is no need to replace the rear pads if they are still good.

I don't like turning the rotors unless they are scored.

I have to agree 100 %.
Hard to understand how the rears would be worn out the same time the fronts are worn out. The fronts do 70-80 percent of all the braking, and should at least twice as fast.
Fronts at 52K sounds about right. BUT...$530? Can't say if that is a good price of not, since I would do my own brake job. Hardest part is jacking up the front or rear and removing the damn heavy tires.

I also agree on the rotors. If they are not scored, or warped, do not turn, unless it is a finish turn just to remove any possible pad residue that might be on the rotor(s). Too many people have this philosophy of turning rotors in their heads, and usually, it is not required. GM has published hundreds of bulletins on NOT turning rotors if not required. Removing the metal mass will cause overheating to damage the rotors faster than if left at standard mass.

OEM pads are excellent, however, there could be others out there just as good. Raybestos, Warner, Bendix are three good name brands, but not sure if they make any for the H3. Also not sure at this time, what other vehicles might use the same pads. (I'll try and check tomorrow for ya.)

I would guess you can get the pads a lot cheaper from GM Parts Direct.
HummBebe
06-13-2007, 12:46 AM
The BS part of it is, I had them inspected at 46K and they still had a bunch of wear left, is it funny that is 6k miles they need to be replaced?
NewHummerGuy
06-13-2007, 12:51 AM
The BS part of it is, I had them inspected at 46K and they still had a bunch of wear left, is it funny that is 6k miles they need to be replaced?

Maybe for the hell of it take them somewhere else for another look.
deserth3
06-13-2007, 12:52 AM
The BS part of it is, I had them inspected at 46K and they still had a bunch of wear left, is it funny that is 6k miles they need to be replaced?

Yes!!But I've had it happen on past vehicles.
f5fstop
06-13-2007, 12:53 AM
The BS part of it is, I had them inspected at 46K and they still had a bunch of wear left, is it funny that is 6k miles they need to be replaced?

Yes and no. Hard to really estimate the time left on a set of brake pads. Personally, I know you have good relations with your Dealer, but a second opinion does not hurt.:dancingbanana:
HummBebe
06-13-2007, 03:39 AM
Thanks, but I gave the go ahead.
lennyrebel
06-13-2007, 05:49 AM
On my 2002 Avalanche with 11 inch rotors on back rear pads were worn out at 45000 km, about 30,000 miles and front were still over half there. Couldn't figure it unless there is some weird biasing with the ABS system. Was first time in my life I ever replaced rear and not front. Usually rear last at least twice as long as front. Regards The Rebel
Sewie
06-13-2007, 06:16 AM
Too much BTM'ing. ;)
f5fstop
06-13-2007, 09:19 PM
For future reference:
15240794 Pad Kit, Frt Disc Brk ? Retail 149.25; trade 111.94;
15240812 Pad Kit, RR Disc Brk ? Retail 137.72; trade 103.29

Pads do not show as being used on any other GM vehicle. So, for the limited number out there, non-OEM pads may not be produced...yet.
partsguy
06-13-2007, 10:01 PM
Checked aftermarket, no such critter as of yet.
NEOCON1
06-13-2007, 10:44 PM
Too much BTM'ing. ;)



:giggling: :crying: :giggling: :perfect10s:
HummBebe
06-14-2007, 02:34 AM
Thank F5 and parts guy....f-off Sewie and Neo :fdance:

BTW, they offerd me a loaner today...seems as if there MAY be some tranny trouble.

I was telling Sewie when I was following him down a steep muddy incline in Hollister I had it in 1st/low, the truck seemed like it was coasting. When I stopped and put it into second the engine braking returned....so....tranny time?

Makes me wanna :blech:
fourfourto
06-14-2007, 02:47 AM
Your at 52k what about warranty with trans :crying: ?
HummBebe
06-14-2007, 02:54 AM
Your at 52k what about warranty with trans :crying: ?

The symptoms started at 49K, I have the GMPP, but so far they haven't said yet whether or not they will cover it......but they did offer a loaner, could be a goodwill thing...could be a "feel sorry for her" thing.

I will probably hear tomorrow when I go pick up my loaner.

I doubt I'll get much sleep tonight.:crying:
Steve - SanJose
06-14-2007, 06:44 AM
tranny problems, there's a new one....
f5fstop
06-14-2007, 05:06 PM
I was telling Sewie when I was following him down a steep muddy incline in Hollister I had it in 1st/low, the truck seemed like it was coasting. When I stopped and put it into second the engine braking returned....so....tranny time?

Makes me wanna :blech:

Say hello to a new "overrun" clutch. If it slips in manual first gear, that is the component I would say is failing. Could be first clutch housing, but that manual first slipping?????

It should be covered under the extended warranty, and if you didn't have an extended warranty, with enough barking, GM/Hummer might cover most of it or all of it; especially since you have maintenance stuff done at the dealer. (It does pay at times to pay the dealer for customer pay items.)
Sewie
06-14-2007, 09:49 PM
Say hello to a new "overrun" clutch. If it slips in manual first gear, that is the component I would say is failing. Could be first clutch housing, but that manual first slipping?????


She has an auto.
HummBebe
06-14-2007, 10:26 PM
Valve Body.....:popcorn:
HummBebe
06-14-2007, 10:41 PM
She has an auto.

Yes and auto's have overrun clutches...http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/tech/engines_drivetrain/transmission/0606ch_monster_4l60e_65e_transmission_rebuild/
HummBebe
06-14-2007, 10:49 PM
http://www.importperformancetrans.com/images/inventory/4l60e_vb.jpg

Looks like a brain to mee....sad, my trucks guts are prolly everywhare:crying:
Sewie
06-14-2007, 11:27 PM
Yes and auto's have overrun clutches...http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/tech/engines_drivetrain/transmission/0606ch_monster_4l60e_65e_transmission_rebuild/

Doh! :o

I just kept seeing manual, manual. That's what I get for not paying attention. :OWNED:

BTW, quit braking sh*t on your truck. Now who am I supposed to go wheeling with this weekend? :mad:
HummBebe
06-14-2007, 11:52 PM
Doh! :o

I just kept seeing manual, manual. That's what I get for not paying attention. :OWNED:

BTW, quit braking sh*t on your truck. Now who am I supposed to go wheeling with this weekend? :mad:

We still have the cruiser...and of course the BULLIES!!!
HummBebe
06-14-2007, 11:54 PM
Oh yeah....and I'm picking up a loaner.....:jump: :jump: :jump:
f5fstop
06-15-2007, 12:29 AM
http://www.importperformancetrans.com/images/inventory/4l60e_vb.jpg

Looks like a brain to mee....sad, my trucks guts are prolly everywhare:crying:

Easy repair, a lot easier than an overrun clutch, which requires trans R&R, then disassembly. The valvebody is removed by simply removing the oil pan and quite a few bolts.

Not there, so not sure, but is it the complete valvebody or some of the internal valves, that are replaceable?
Strange an entire valvebody goes. Oh well, important it gets fixed.
HummBebe
06-15-2007, 03:01 AM
Part is being overnighted...will have my HUMMER back tomorrow.:excited:
H2 BULLY
06-15-2007, 01:08 PM
So then the Hummer will hopefully be going this weekend!!:excited:
NEOCON1
06-15-2007, 01:57 PM
Part is being overnighted...will have my HUMMER back tomorrow.:excited:

:beerchug:
HummBebe
06-15-2007, 02:58 PM
Yep! It should be ready.

I have to tell you, I walked into the shop last night to get my cell charger out of my truck...I have NO IDEA how those guys work in those conditions. It was 104 here yesterday and that shop could not have been much cooler.

Just awful.:rant:
HummBebe
06-15-2007, 10:32 PM
No truck for me today.....:(

Probably not until Tuesday...:(
H3slate
06-15-2007, 10:35 PM
No truck for me today.....:(

Probably not unit Tuesday...:(

Are they installing your new Fox shocks for you too? :excited:
HummBebe
06-15-2007, 10:38 PM
Are they installing your new Fox shocks for you too? :excited:

No, those are in Reno at the moment, I need my truck to go git 'em.
HummBebe
06-20-2007, 07:08 AM
Picked up the truck this morning, new brakes feel great, the notes said the squeal indicators were on in front and the rear pads had 2mm left.

They did replace the valve body in the transmission. Feels great. (under warranty:excited:)

Happy to have it back. I drove a Boulder Ghey Baser around...my H3 feels HUGE in comparison...weird feeling switching between the two.

Thanks HUMMER! :beerchug:
Hunner
06-21-2007, 05:17 AM
That valve body failure is strange. I have put valve body Trans-go upgrades in my Dodge truck and a triple lock torque convertor so I have been in there. I wonder if the valve body was because of low levels of tranny fluid or some valve failed. If they just replaced the whole thing it must have been the cost effective way instead of a rebuild. hmmmm