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h2co-pilot
06-27-2007, 03:46 AM
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First Drive: 2008 Hummer H3 Alpha - Previews

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The littler Hummer now packs a V-8 punch.

BY STEVE SILER, June 2007

After two years of lion styling with housecat horsepower, Hummer?s runt of the litter finally gets a V-8 variant, dubbed H3 Alpha. With 300 horsepower and 320 lb-ft of torque, the Alpha?s 5.3-liter V-8 is the mill the H3 should have had all along. Surprise, surprise; we like it better even though we still don?t love it.

Not enough Power?

When Hummer introduced the H3 (http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/9742/hummer-h3.html), it was steadfast that its new baby had plenty of grunt, although we certainly wouldn?t have used that word to characterize the 220 horsepower of the original inline-five. Still, without admitting fault, the 3.5-liter was hastily bored to 3.7 liters for 2007?and horsepower rose to a still-not-enough 242. We kept bitching.
Why were we being so hard on it, GM wondered? Man, had they driven it? On the road? Sorry for being so demanding, but we?ve never found 0-to-60 times in the mid-10-second range to be terribly stirring, especially in the day and age where there are SUVs that can be going a mile a minute from a dead stop in half that time. Granted, most of ?em aren?t worth much off-road, but still?.

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Turns out, even 300 horsepower under the H3?s chunky hood may not be enough. Sure, we were doing our on-road driving at more than a mile above sea level, on high-speed two-laners between northern New Mexico?s noted (but fabulously unspoiled) Rock Garden off-road area and Durango, Colorado. But even with two aboard and no luggage, the Alpha?s 4900 pounds asked more of the wheezing OHV V-8 than it seemed willing to give. Backing that up is Hummer?s claim that the Alpha hits 60 mph in a just-okay 8.0 seconds. That?s slower than the much larger (albeit much more powerful) 2008 H2 (http://www.caranddriver.com/autoshows/12715/2008-hummer-h2-and-h2-sut.html), which can hustle its 6650 pounds to 60 in a reasonably impressive 7.8 seconds with a 393-hp, 6.2-liter V-8 and six-speed automatic.
Much of the blame for the H3?s lackadaisical thrust can be attributed to the modest gear spread of the H3?s four-speed automatic, which was retained on account of insurmountable underhood packaging constraints. Hummer engineers admit?begrudgingly?that we?re going to be stuck with it until the next all-new H3 comes along, which won?t be happening any time this decade.

h2co-pilot
06-27-2007, 03:47 AM
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Engineers Were Busy

Certainly, said engineers already had enough to do in their efforts to squeeze the longer, wider, and heavier small-block V-8 into the tight engine bay of the H3, designed as it was for the narrower inline-five. Thus, according to H3 chief engineer Lee Visci, parts of the front-of-dash panel had to be moved rearward, and the frame had to be modified so that the engine mounting points could be accommodated and a new, heavier duty cooling system could be installed. The transmission was modified to accommodate a larger-diameter torque converter, and the front anti-roll bar was beefed up to handle the 100 pounds of additional weight.

Packaging of the exhaust system and the application of 2009 emissions controls made it impossible for Visci?s team to achieve the same horsepower and torque figures for their version of the 5.3 as, say, those in other GM applications, such as the 2007 Chevrolet Silverado (http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/11990/first-drive-2007-chevrolet-silverado.html), where it makes 315 hp, or even the ?07 Hummer H2 (http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroadtests/8892/hummer-h2-sut.html), where it produces 325. ?We had to work very hard for that 300 figure,? Visci said. But she added that the team is very satisfied with the results of their efforts, which included a one-third increase in towing capacity to a now-credible 6000 pounds, as well as meeting the same safety standards (specifically for cabin intrusion in severe frontal collisions) as the inline-five model.

h2co-pilot
06-27-2007, 03:49 AM
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The Good Part: Even Better Off-Road:beerchug:

Where the H3 Alpha proves nothing short of brilliant is where Hummers usually prove themselves: off-road. Indeed, off-road is where the Alpha?s combination of reasonable size; spectacular wheel articulation; uncanny approach, departure, and break-over angles; and, alas, effortless torque?multiplied by the 4.10 final drive and low-range transfer case?makes a strong case for itself. Climbing up and down the ancient mesas and ravines of the Rock Garden (some seriously gnarly stuff) was so easy a caveman?or even an automotive journalist, for that matter?could do it. Credit must also be issued to the traction enhancement provided by the locking rear differential, without which we may never have gotten out of some of the holes in which we found ourselves. That and the fact that we let most of the air out of our tires.

On the Right Track, But Not Quite There Yet

There on the bluffs, we noted the numerous bones thrown at comfort and style for the $39,260. (That?s $8565 more than a base H3, and the total rises to $43,730 with the H3X bling package.) The window switches are relocated to the door panels (standard across the H3 line), ?Alpha? badges and embossments are applied here and there, and all the goodies that come with the normal H3?s ?luxury? and ?chrome? packages were made standard. Also added is a new silver front bumper that meets new car-to-car crash standards.
Back on the highway, however, we yearned for something more. Yes, the revised steering system adds some much-needed precision to the H3?s straight-line demeanor. But we hoped for less road rumble and more exhaust burble at speed, and the on-road ride remains as brittle as ever, with no changes made to the rear leaf-springs. And then there?s that pesky fuel consumption problem.
We believe that Hummer is on the right track with the H3 Alpha, but it would be much better with more gears and less weight. Perhaps when the smaller and potentially more nimble H4 hits the market in 2009 or so, Hummer will finally have a product that makes its drivers just as happy on the road as off.

3Hummer
06-27-2007, 04:04 AM
Very nice!

marin8703
06-27-2007, 04:30 AM
:popcorn:

blindzebra
06-27-2007, 01:25 PM
still underpowered? I just don't don't get it. Our Speed limit is 70 and I've never had any problems merging. Occassionally I have to force a jeep into the ditch, but hey; all's fair in love and driving right?

Agriv8r
06-27-2007, 02:37 PM
:clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

deserth3
06-27-2007, 03:26 PM
It may not beet a BMW on the highway. But then again I didn't see too may BMW's on Hells Revenge either.
OK, I didn't see any BMW's on Hells Revenge.:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

3Hummer
06-27-2007, 03:34 PM
They just can't fully like a Hummer. I think that's the problem. It's not a freaking BMW as far as acceleration, and that rough rear end? Well, if you dampen it, the truck won't perform off-road as well! And have they even ridden in an X5 Sport Package? The thing is like a wagon cart over bumps. So I can see no logical reasoning for their two main problems, power and ride.

Take that out and bottom line: the H3 ALPHA is sure to please. :beerchug:

Your exactly right!!! They have to realize that these are the greatest offroad vehicles ever made, and that they were devolped for the offroad- not on, being ablet od rive it on the road at 70 is just a plus.

Steve - SanJose
06-27-2007, 05:03 PM
still underpowered? I just don't don't get it. Our Speed limit is 70 and I've never had any problems merging. Occassionally I have to force a jeep into the ditch, but hey; all's fair in love and driving right?

Speed limits are to be ignored around here.

Steve - SanJose
06-27-2007, 05:06 PM
I'll check my mailbox for the new C&D.

Yea in this era of rocket SUV's (Hemi Jeeps, RR Sport S/C, ML550's, Infiniti 45's, Rav4 V6's, Cayene Turbo's, etc.), there are faster SUV's, but none have the offroad ability of a Hummer. Sounds like the H3 Alpha and new H2 are plenty quick.

Desert Dan
06-27-2007, 05:16 PM
They bitched about it being underpowerd with the I5 and now with a V8 they say "And then there?s that pesky fuel consumption problem."

usetosellhummer
06-27-2007, 05:27 PM
no win

Pewterbird
06-28-2007, 01:31 AM
Does anyone know the MPG for the Alpha. It will make me feel better about my 15 mpg.

HummerHawk
06-28-2007, 02:25 AM
CAR and driver.. should not be reviewing an on/off road SUV. They are always ONLY concerned about one thing.. 0-60 times.. I mean most of the first paragraph is ONLY about 0-60 times.. give it a break! It's not a sports CAR, it's an SUV, test it for what it is meant to do. I'm glad I don't subscribe to that ****ty magazine.

lamric
06-28-2007, 08:41 AM
300 HP V8 and it's still underpowered? Maybe if C&D keeps complaining GM will throw a V10 under the hood.

Steve - SanJose
06-28-2007, 05:04 PM
Does anyone know the MPG for the Alpha. It will make me feel better about my 15 mpg.

Alpha 13/16
3.7 I5 14/18
(new EPA ratings)