AirRaid install done (Pics)

[bparker]

Well I cant believe I paid 200 bucks for this after coming from the "C5 Corvette mod world" as you get alot more "physical product" for your money.

This "system" is a few peices of metal and a rubber gasket and basically a 20.00 K&N air filter.

Install was easy enough that a retarded drunk monkey could do it in less than 10 mins.

Results are mixed: I do notice that the system has recognized a major airflow chage because its not down shifting at WOT like it was before. And, these new PCMs take up to 500 miles before they adapt to the new air meter map readings the sensor is picking up. So we will realy have to wait before I place my final judgement.

Sound: I do now notice that the engine is making A LOT more noise when i gas it. The engine bay is can now be heard over the radio when turned up (LOL) and again makes me think some power will be netted from the install once the computer learns the new airflow raito and places the paramerters in the long term tables in the computer.

I thought I would notice more "initial" pedal response however its quite the oposite, as its more slugish now right into the throttle. But again I think this is due to the PCM needs to relearn and adjust.

I wish I had AutoTap so I could have taken some before and after readings to see whats going on now as in too rich or too lean etc..

Anyways here are some pics to eyeball over: clicky (http://www.bpteck.com/stuff/myh3/AirRaid/)

[bparker]

Well I cant believe I paid 200 bucks for this after coming from the "C5 Corvette mod world" as you get alot more "physical product" for your money.

This "system" is a few peices of metal and a rubber gasket and basically a 20.00 K&N air filter.

Install was easy enough that a retarded drunk monkey could do it in less than 10 mins.

Results are mixed: I do notice that the system has recognized a major airflow chage because its not down shifting at WOT like it was before. And, these new PCMs take up to 500 miles before they adapt to the new air meter map readings the sensor is picking up. So we will realy have to wait before I place my final judgement.

Sound: I do now notice that the engine is making A LOT more noise when i gas it. The engine bay is can now be heard over the radio when turned up (LOL) and again makes me think some power will be netted from the install once the computer learns the new airflow raito and places the paramerters in the long term tables in the computer.

I thought I would notice more "initial" pedal response however its quite the oposite, as its more slugish now right into the throttle. But again I think this is due to the PCM needs to relearn and adjust.

I wish I had AutoTap so I could have taken some before and after readings to see whats going on now as in too rich or too lean etc..

Anyways here are some pics to eyeball over: clicky (http://www.bpteck.com/stuff/myh3/AirRaid/)

[DeLeon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">few peices of metal and a rubber gasket and basically a 20.00 K&N air filter </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">This "system" is a few peices of metal and a rubber gasket and basically a 20.00 K&N air filter. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It really is!! I think the SMA system includes the complete air filter box.. not sure though, but the one that you got looks kinda cheap... I hope it really works as they claim.. good luck! and thanks a lot for the review! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[bparker]

Well, I went back out and took the airraid bracket system off.
I did leave the airraid filter in and but the stock cover on
Then went for a drive and I am really impressed with the noticeable performace gains felt by the seat of the pants.
I have no idea how much but it really felt more responsive.

/shrug

[DeLeon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bparker:
Well, I went back out and took the airraid bracket system off.
I did leave the airraid filter in and but the stock cover on
Then went for a drive and I am really impressed with the noticeable performace gains felt by the seat of the pants.
I have no idea how much but it really felt more responsive.

/shrug </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So... are you basically saying that the only part that you left there was the K&N air filter? I went out to take a look at the stock air filter system and I could't understand what the airraid bracket system does... I actually thought of buying the K&N filter and just replace the stock filter, do you think that would work bparker?

[bparker]

Yep, and thats the way I will leave it too. I am happy with just the K&N filter for now.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">So... are you basically saying that the only part that you left there was the K&N air filter? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[DeLeon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bparker:
Yep, and thats the way I will leave it too. I am happy with just the K&N filter for now.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">So... are you basically saying that the only part that you left there was the K&N air filter? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can you please let me know the part number or model of the K&N filter that you received with the package?

[First Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DeLeon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">few peices of metal and a rubber gasket and basically a 20.00 K&N air filter </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">This "system" is a few peices of metal and a rubber gasket and basically a 20.00 K&N air filter. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It really is!! I think the SMA system includes the complete air filter box.. not sure though, but the one that you got looks kinda cheap... I hope it really works as they claim.. good luck! and thanks a lot for the review! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

no the SMA does not include air box mine is from SMA and it looks just like airraid.

[First Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bparker:
Well I cant believe I paid 200 bucks for this after coming from the "C5 Corvette mod world" as you get alot more "physical product" for your money.

This "system" is a few peices of metal and a rubber gasket and basically a 20.00 K&N air filter.



Install was easy enough that a retarded drunk monkey could do it in less than 10 mins.

Results are mixed: I do notice that the system has recognized a major airflow chage because its not down shifting at WOT like it was before. And, these new PCMs take up to 500 miles before they adapt to the new air meter map readings the sensor is picking up. So we will realy have to wait before I place my final judgement.

Sound: I do now notice that the engine is making A LOT more noise when i gas it. The engine bay is can now be heard over the radio when turned up (LOL) and again makes me think some power will be netted from the install once the computer learns the new airflow raito and places the paramerters in the long term tables in the computer.

I thought I would notice more "initial" pedal response however its quite the oposite, as its more slugish now right into the throttle. But again I think this is due to the PCM needs to relearn and adjust.

I wish I had AutoTap so I could have taken some before and after readings to see whats going on now as in too rich or too lean etc..

Anyways here are some pics to eyeball over: clicky (http://www.bpteck.com/stuff/myh3/AirRaid/) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Listen parker you are not alone I feel your pain.Except mine is worse cause I paid $329 for same thing you have and mine was from SMA.Sounds like I am going to be stuck with $329 air filter oh well we live and learn.

[wannabeH3]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DeLeon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bparker:
Yep, and thats the way I will leave it too. I am happy with just the K&N filter for now.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">So... are you basically saying that the only part that you left there was the K&N air filter? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


same what model was that? i just took the top off my airbox and it sounds good that way too!
Can you please let me know the part number or model of the K&N filter that you received with the package? that little lip it has basically looks like it keeps the heat out, but who cares :P it looks cool tho!

[H3 Buyer to be?]

YAH Guys what is the model # of the K & N filter? SAVE ME THE $250!!!

[H3 Buyer to be?]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIte...rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;category=33659&amp;item=7981428 395&amp;rd=1&amp;ssPageName=WDVW)

this look like it?

[bparker]

Just buy a K&N airfilter for a Colorado or Canyon.

Link to K&N's Website (http://www.knfilters.com/search/appsearch.aspx)

[H3 Buyer to be?]

I figured that would work... I snagged that one for $40.00 they are $55 in the stores...

[First Hummer]

I have also replaced stock air filter with the K&N one that came with the intake.I have put the stock air cover back on and have noticed a bigger difference this way.I know it sounds strange but it does feel a littel more peppy.

[DeLeon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3 Buyer to be?:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIte...rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;category=33659&amp;item=7981428 395&amp;rd=1&amp;ssPageName=WDVW)

this look like it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The filter in the auction looks a lot different to the one that is included with the "air system"... I want to get one like the one below... does anyone know how I should ask for it?

bparker: there is no part number in the filter that you installed?

[usetosellhummer]

Sma is the Air-raid and yes it is not much. a chip mod will help even more but I would wait for someone to perfect it first. Watch for a waring light if the mass air flow sensor is tweeked. It sometimes happens..

[H3 Buyer to be?]

The one I bought was a perfect match. The picture is not the picture of the one they sent me. It must just be the stock pic they use. The one I bought was the same size on top and bottom. The install was about 29 seconds, and funny the stock one was barely hangin on, not tied down at all... Oh well, here is the pic of the part number, and box. I paid $39.95 and $6.00 to ship it and it was here in 2 days from Cali. The link to the auction is above, i am sure they have more...

[H3 Buyer to be?]

Oh, and by the way, thank you guys that bought the Airaid and SMA, if you would not have posted here I would have spent the same amount as you guys.

I thank you again!

Paul

[firm]

Can you give us the website that you bought your filter from?

[First Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3 Buyer to be?:
Oh, and by the way, thank you guys that bought the Airaid and SMA, if you would not have posted here I would have spent the same amount as you guys.

I thank you again!

Paul </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Glad we could be the ginny pig for you.Would you consider sending some of the money you saved our way.

[Hummer3]

I can't keep a secret but I also did the same thing. Thanks guys. But, I will still update if Volant or somebody comes up with a better system.

[H3 Buyer to be?]

Glad we could be the ginny pig for you.Would you consider sending some of the money you saved our way.[/QUOTE]

I have considered it, but no, I am going to spend the money I would have given you on a new exaust. LOL

The website link is on page one, and it was ebay! Just go to search, and type in the part # and it will come right up!

[Hummer3]

Same here, I'm going to spend my saved money on a cat back. We should try to get a group purcahse started for cat backs. What do you think?

[MisterE]

Hey whats the K&N filter do to the engine warranty? I heard horror stories that they void the engine warranty (something about the chemical treatments damaging sensors)

[bparker]

Lies all lies....

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MisterE:
Hey whats the K&N filter do to the engine warranty? I heard horror stories that they void the engine warranty (something about the chemical treatments damaging sensors) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[DeLeon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MisterE:
Hey whats the K&N filter do to the engine warranty? I heard horror stories that they void the engine warranty (something about the chemical treatments damaging sensors) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think that's just BS, I mean... you're supposed to replace the filter after a few months anyway.

[firm]

Has anybody noticed a difference with the new filter? Do you think that the metal and rubber parts increases the size of the air box, therefore making more air available? How is the gas mileage with the new filter? Thanks.

[First Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by firm:
Has anybody noticed a difference with the new filter? Do you think that the metal and rubber parts increases the size of the air box, therefore making more air available? How is the gas mileage with the new filter? Thanks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Firm I believe a few of us that bought the air intake have have just replaced the stock filter with the new one and used stock air box and cover I know I have.Someone here also mentioned that it might take like 400 miles to see any difference.

[H3 Builder]

I do know that the air cleaner box for the H3 is the same one used on the Colorado I5.

[firm]

I've been reading what the Colorado owners say about the Air Intake system. They basically just replaced the filter also, but some of them removed the cover from the stock box. I'm trying to get the maximum efficiency out of my H3. Keep us informed. Thanks

[H3 Buyer to be?]

I tried it with and without the cover on. I noticed no difference whatsoever by adding the filter, and or with the cover on or off. I did notice when I opened the cover, and removed the stock filter, that the stock filter was barely even attached to the intake. Meaning it was not tight at all... Almost just sitting there. I like the K & N because of the ring, and screw that can be tightened.

[firm]

H3 Buyer- have you noticed an increase in gas mileage?

[TxHmr]

Quick clarification, are you guys installing the K&N Air Filter:

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9712/e07731rs.jpg

Or Air Charger:

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8595/6310954tm.jpg

[H3 Buyer to be?]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by firm:
H3 Buyer- have you noticed an increase in gas mileage? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Noticed nothing...

[H3 Buyer to be?]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TxHmr:
Quick clarification, are you guys installing the K&N Air Filter:

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9712/e07731rs.jpg

Or Air Charger:

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8595/6310954tm.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I used the filter only...

[timgco]

So posted a differnt thread on availble add-on's... or should I say things that are still NA. So for those that have only replaced the stock airfilter with the E 0773 K & N filter..... how about an update?
1)Was it worth it?
2) DId it change anything?
3) Did your mass airflow sensor get ruined from the oil as dealers claim?
4) Do you feel it gave you more HP?

[Hummer3]

I fell the clamp on K & N is a better connection than the stock filter. The stock filter could easily suck un-filtered air at its connection to the tube. I have not noticed any gain in HP. I have six vehicles all with K & N's. I have used them for a good decade. Oil on a mass sensor is unlikely unless a person would really over oil a filter.

[f5fstop]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MisterE:
Hey whats the K&N filter do to the engine warranty? I heard horror stories that they void the engine warranty (something about the chemical treatments damaging sensors) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If it is over-oiled it can affect some of the engine sensors, thus voiding that PART of the warranty. If no over-oiled it cannot affect the warranty.
However, what I'm trying to figure out is why everyone is going to K&N filters if they intend to off-road this vehicle.
It is a well known fact that paper elements filter more dirt particles than the oil based filters. In addition, from my experiences with a Vette when on a Dyno, the K&N filter added no more horsepower than the stock designed paper filter. In fact, during some runs with some friends, gains were seen with the paper filters over the K&N.