16.5" H1 wheel recenters

[scottminor]

Anybody running recentered H1 wheels with 37" Goodyear MTs?

[scottminor]

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[slippy]

im running 37' goodyear MT on 16.5 wheels with 4.5 backspacing. whatcha wanna know? :beerchug:

the pros of this setup are the tires are CHEAP! and its got a descent tread. so far i like em, but they do tend to dig, which isnt the best on sand. also the sidewall tread is non-existent, but that hasnt been an issue ...yet.

the cons of this setup is the 16.5 wheel. a 16.5 wheel does not have a safety lip like a 15 or 17 inch wheel would have.
iv been reading up this week into beadlocks and recentered hummer wheels seem the best bang for the buck. im still researching but from what i gather
a beadlocked 16.5 is the same diffrence as a 17 wheel with a safety lip. both help you air down but if you still can lose a bead if you push it to far.

you may find this site interesting
http://www.trailworthyfab.com/Custom-Hummer-Wheels-w-Tire-Combos/

you can get a 16.5 beadlock for cheap but if you want a double beadlock he sells pvc inserts which pinches the inner tire aswell. if you get the pvc insert tho, your talking a pretty penny to air down.

[scottminor]

I saw that. I can get the tires here in GA for about 350 for 4 with 90% tread. It seems like the wheels would be a little cheaper that they sell them for. I am mostly cusious to find someone running those wheels on their H2. Are you going to get some?

[scottminor]

For $1500 for 5, I could buy 5 37 12.5 17s. I dont do any offorading where I would air down. She's not pavement princess, but she is close.

[slippy]

im running these:
http://wartires.com/goodyears.html

best and cheap and they sell wheels with it.
my only issue with them was the wheels they sent me were white and i had to rattle can em. so if you buy from him tell them you want them black like there advertised.

[scottminor]

Are you using pro-comp wheels?

[slippy]

im using the tire and wheels from wartires.com
he never told me what brand they were and since they came in white i think there just generic steel wheels. not sure.

[STL Zombie Hunter]

I just put a set of these on my H2 yesterday. 24 bolt HMMWV wheels w/ 100% 37" x 12.5 R16.5 Goodyear MT/R Dura Wall Wranglers.

[scottminor]

Pictures please!!!!

[iwillnc]

Holy Sh%&, this must be a worlds first a thread posted 2 years ago, drug up from the dead and the OP actually responds 2 years later, on the same day no less, and if that weren't amazing, 2 minutes difference!!


But wow this has peaked my interest 16.5 rims

I also have a question here, For the occasional offroader does it really make sense to invest in beadlocks rather than regular 16.5 rims?

Also I'm guessing 16.5s do fit around the diskbrakes?

[STL Zombie Hunter]

I also have a question here, For the occasional offroader does it really make sense to invest in beadlocks rather than regular 16.5 rims?

Also I'm guessing 16.5s do fit around the diskbrakes?

These wheels came with the bead locks on them (2 piece wheels) and runflats already installed in them.
To gain the correct offset (and to clear the brakes) you will need solid 2" billet spacers. 100 miles on them & so far so good. Just a mild shake out of one of the wheels about 60mph. I plan on having it rebalanced this Saturday.

I'll get some pics up once it stops snowing or raining long enough to take a few pics. But it does look pretty lethal looking. I had 37 x 13.50 R18 on there so these military tires are actually smaller.

[STL Zombie Hunter]

Plus tires are cheap. $175-200 from some online Surplus sellers.
I ended up buying 5 complete wheels to have 1 as a spare.
But.... these are 175 lbs PER WHEEL. Keep that in mind when asking for help to put them on. Lol

[iwillnc]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOODYEAR-WRANGLER-MTR-MT-R-37X12-5X16-5-H1-HUMMER-TIRE-ON-24-BOLT-RIM-98-TREAD-/181091972687?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &hash=item2a29ec364f

Are these it?

[STL Zombie Hunter]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOODYEAR-WRANGLER-MTR-MT-R-37X12-5X16-5-H1-HUMMER-TIRE-ON-24-BOLT-RIM-98-TREAD-/181091972687?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &hash=item2a29ec364f

Are these it?

Yup! Same guy. I didn't go thru Ebay though. I got a set of 5 for $975 + freight. 4 were 100% new & my spare was 95-99% new.
Dustin is his name. Tell him I sent you.

[iwillnc]

While I can appreciate the BAedness (and believe me I wanna see it badly)
I just can't afford the entire dmaxstore kryptonite front end right now.

I would be highly interested on the other side if it was possible to use non beadlock wheels with these.
I really wanna see what people have done like that. Just some cheap steelies

[iwillnc]

Do these tires hit anything, or are you lifted?

[STL Zombie Hunter]

Do these tires hit anything, or are you lifted?

Same height in rear but I think prev. owner put different torsion bars up front. No rubbing at all. Not even with my 37x13.5's.

Once it warms up, I plan on painting the rims in black Rhino bedliner like my last set. Makes them look even more bada$$.

Buying a set of 37x13.50 R18 tires at my cost was $1625 (used to own a wheel shop). This was, I got 5 wheels, tires, mounted & balanced w/ new style military runflats for less than $1K. Plus tire sidewalls are puncture resistant w/ Kevlar. This will come in handy once the Zombie Apocalypse hits.

[iwillnc]

I hate when I get these ideas in my head....

Well I know where my returns are going.

[STL Zombie Hunter]

I hate when I get these ideas in my head....

Well I know where my returns are going.

That's exactly where mine went! That & old Corvette parts. :((

[STL Zombie Hunter]

BTW, with 16.5" rims, you will need a bead lock. Hey don't have the safety lip that regular sized rims have.
I also have a source for 2" billet adapters also. I paid $200 including shipping. Included lug nuts also.
Just since yesterday, I got a lot of 'thumbs up'. Even from other H2 owners, and those dudes NEVER wave at each other up here.

[iwillnc]

http://wartires.com/goodyears.html

Why do you say I NEED beadlocks, don't get me wrong that's what I would prefer but there are two drawbacks to me

Weight quite obviously
Complication of a beadlock, albiet that equates to keeping 24x4 bolts tight and whatever else is involved


Have you ever (in the tire bussiness) put some on non beadlocks?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUW4QwAS8Tg

This is kinda where I'm leaning

[STL Zombie Hunter]

You don't 'need' them. But if using a 16.5 wheel you will. As I mentioned earlier, they lack a safety lip that other common sizes have. Any sort of sway or body roll could pop your seal and leave you stranded.

If going with the HMMWV style 24 bolt wheels, they are a 2 piece wheel and the bead lock is an integral part of the wheel. It doesn't weigh that much in comparison to the rest of the hardware. It's just a piece of 1/4" steel w/ a bunch of holes drilled in it.
Hope this helps some & I didn't 'muddy the water' so to speak.

[iwillnc]

I'm confused the youtube link had the 16.5s on non beadlocks just plain rims

EDIT: I think your assuming I was all for using the rims like you have, but I was refering to just plain steel rims from any ole truck with a 16.5 size

[STL Zombie Hunter]

I just watched that you tube video. He's running the Military MT tires & some aftermarket rims. Everyday driving you'll most likely not ever need a bead lock. I don't know a lot in the off road wheel aspects, I mainly did street rods & 20's to 28" rims. You can buy just the tires pretty cheap & use your own rims, but at the package price I got, I opted for full military set up.
But I do know that about the safety lip is true. I've been to a seminar at SEMA in Vegas where this was one of the topics. I side on 'better safe than sorry'. Plus it looks like a freakin tank sitting in the driveway with them on.

[iwillnc]

Alright now I gotcha

I think I'll go with the military anyways, they have a pretty nice setup

EDIT: Assuming shipping isn't $300

[STL Zombie Hunter]

I'm confused the youtube link had the 16.5s on non beadlocks just plain rims

EDIT: I think your assuming I was all for using the rims like you have, but I was refering to just plain steel rims from any ole truck with a 16.5 size

Correct. I thought you were using the HMMWV rims instead of aftermarket. My bad. Oops!
You should be fine w/o bead locks for normal driving. But take it easy if you go off roading or climb massive snow piles in WalMart parking lots like I do.

[STL Zombie Hunter]

Alright now I gotcha

I think I'll go with the military anyways, they have a pretty nice setup

EDIT: Assuming shipping isn't $300

Dustin charged me $120 for a pallet of 5 rims from WI to St. Louis. Took 2 days to ship, plus I could use Paypal where I get 1.5% cash back AND piece of mind for buyer protection.

[STL Zombie Hunter]

PM me your email or text # and I'll send you a few pics.

[iwillnc]

That ain't too bad for shipping, I'm gonna wait a month a two before I pull the trigger but this is definately likely.

[STL Zombie Hunter]

It's not a very good pic, but it gives you an idea on what they look like on an H2.


http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a535/STLZombieHunter/F5DB553B-5B25-4657-B5D8-D80EC3151613-12890-000014E56A25776D_zps6ff366f9.jpg

[LoJac963]

Here's my thinking, I've been looking around and can't find much in regards to other tires in the same size. That being said it seems the only decently priced tire for these rims would be the military surplus stuff. However what happens when these start to dwindle??

Any thoughts on finding tires in the long term?