So, sell me on the H3.... [Archive] - Hummer Forums by Elcova

H3Shopper

09-29-2005, 02:27 PM

Maybe not a great header, but I would like to hear some thoughts on what I consider to be minor drawbacks with the H3.

It is time to retire my 1999 Grand Cherokee, and I'm looking for a luxury ride that is capable of towing my boat to the mountains, and able to reach those remote camping spots I've grown accustomed to with the GC. I don't really like the interior of the new GC's so the H3 is an obvious candidate.

But, after my test drive, I'm a bit hesitant to pull the trigger....

I won't say the H3 is underpowered -- it is slow of the line but once it gets up to speed it performs fine. However, such a small engine should get better gas mileage. This engine is less powerful than my GC, AND it gets worse mileage?? Granted, the H3 weighs about 500 pounds more, but this doesn't sound like good tradeoff.

The cargo area is disappoiniing, but acceptable for my needs.

The driver's door controls are in exactly the wrong spot. Hard to reach with your fingers, and uncomfortable when you try to rest your elbow.

It doesn't have dual climate control? Or even single climate control? WTF, this thing costs $35,000. Its been so long since I've seen manual AC controls, I'm not even sure I know how they work!

Okay, obviously some of these complaints are nit-picky, but I hate to "settle" for a vehicle that is less than it should be, just because I can't find anything better. The Grand Cherokee was perfect, before they reconfigured it to please the soccer moms, and now I'm really stuck.

Perhaps I should wait until the H3 gets some upgrades in 2007 or 08? Problem is, the current ride probably won't last that long....

H3Shopper

09-29-2005, 02:27 PM

DennisAJC

09-29-2005, 02:38 PM

The H3 is an AWESOME rig.

That is all you need to know.

YOU GO BUY NOW! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Don't hold your breath for too many future upgrades. Aftermarket stuff will get it to where you want.

H3OwnerDiz

09-29-2005, 03:20 PM

Wow, Dennis I didn't realize you were so fond of the H3! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Lots of pro-H3 posts from you today. That's cool. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

HIHUMMER

09-29-2005, 03:25 PM

Don't buy the H3 if it's only going to be "acceptable" to your needs.
Buy it b/c you love it. There are things on the H3 that we would all like to change, but the petty problems with the H3 are severely overcome just by the simple pleasure of owning such a bad a$$, head turning vehicle!

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

crotch_rocket_pilot

09-29-2005, 03:34 PM

1) Tree huggers hate it
2)Smaller but can still offroad like a mofo
3)Turns heads
4)Chicks dig it
5)Tree huggers hate it

(I called my dad and told him I bought an H3 hummer, he and my step-mom are hard core democrats...my dad could care less, but he said my step-mom was going to go ballistic on me next time we talked....Cant wait!)

H3 Hummer

09-29-2005, 03:46 PM

It's simple -

Find any other SUV with as much as the H3 for under $35,000.

Try to find any other SUV with as much (overall) as the H3 under $55,000.

I think it was Motor-Trend who ranked it second out of 6 top of the line SUV's. Like Tourag, Jeep, Toyota, etc. It was second to the Land Rover LR3 only because of less power.

With a roof rack you will have plenty of room for anything you need. With Auto you can tow another H3.

And I agree about the door controls (very dorky posistion in my opinion).

SteveRH

09-29-2005, 04:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3 Hummer:
And I agree about the door controls (very dorky posistion in my opinion). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I drive with my left hand at about 10 o'clock... That being said, using my right hand as a cross over for the window and lock switches works fairly well...

993

09-29-2005, 04:26 PM

If you compare the H3 vs the GC, get the GC. Look at the 2005 GC, you can get discounts on a 2005 even after the employee purchase program. I think you can get up to 8k off sticker. Better yet the 2005 comes with a 7yr 70,000 mile warranty. It is a no brainer in terms of value and I think the GC ride is very nice. I personally like the interior and had a great test drive. That being said, I bought the H3 because it is cool as sh!t. The car is awesome and a blast to drive. Mine is black with bling bling chrome and getting more bling as we speak (no spinners in the near future). Driving a hummer is a great feeling. I do not regret not getting the GC for one minute. If I did get the Cherokee I would regret it every time I saw an H3. Value goes to GC, eternal bliss goes to H3.

H3OwnerDiz

09-29-2005, 04:30 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SteveRH:
...using my right hand as a cross over for the window and lock switches works fairly well... </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Yes, I've adapted to using my right hand as well.
As for being slow off the line, I got a stick so I would have more control over that. But now that I'm addicted to this site, I want to go crawlin' and wish I had gotten the adventure package and auto trans. For some reason, I'm more interested in getting into the world of off-road than hubby is. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

DennisAJC

09-29-2005, 04:38 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3OwnerDiz:
Wow, Dennis I didn't realize you were so fond of the H3! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Lots of pro-H3 posts from you today. That's cool. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We've been watching the H3 for some time. Looking to replace wifey's(Ex Range Rover, Ex RAV4) vehicle in the next few. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

It'll be a formitable addition to the family. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

YellowH3

09-29-2005, 04:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 993:
If you compare the H3 vs the GC, get the GC. Look at the 2005 GC, you can get discounts on a 2005 even after the employee purchase program. I think you can get up to 8k off sticker. Better yet the 2005 comes with a 7yr 70,000 mile warranty. It is a no brainer in terms of value and I think the GC ride is very nice. I personally like the interior and had a great test drive. That being said, I bought the H3 because it is cool as sh!t. The car is awesome and a blast to drive. Mine is black with bling bling chrome and getting more bling as we speak (no spinners in the near future). Driving a hummer is a great feeling. I do not regret not getting the GC for one minute. If I did get the Cherokee I would regret it every time I saw an H3. Value goes to GC, eternal bliss goes to H3. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Here Here! I love my H3. I looked at everything. The GC and the new X-Terra are nice but, they are no HUMMER! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DWPC

09-29-2005, 04:53 PM

H3 is not for you. The H3 is more what SUVs started as 20 years ago; rugged, moderate power, serious offroad capability, with reasonable comfort. The closest thing to the H3 I can think of is a Jeep Cherokee which, like all the other "real" SUVs, has been "luxurified" out of existance.

Its clear that auto climate control is more important to you than risk of high-centering. This isn't a slam; everyone has their own needs. You'll hate an H3 'cuz it doesn't do what you need and it doesn't have the luxuries you want. Go look at a GC, a new Commander or a 4Runner.

KenP

09-29-2005, 04:58 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3Shopper:
and able to reach those remote camping spots I've grown accustomed to with the GC. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I bet you'll find even better places with the H3.

But it doesn't sound like the vehicle for you. While it is an awesome rig, you'll be complaining about it all the time. Come on, you're already complaining about the location of switches. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

HummerNewbie

09-29-2005, 05:08 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by H3Shopper:
I bet you'll find even better places with the H3.

But it doesn't sound like the vehicle for you. While it is an awesome rig, you'll be complaining about it all the time. Come on, you're already complaining about the location of switches. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Ken, I just hurled http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Now you have all those pic rotating in your avatar.

HummerNewbie

09-29-2005, 05:12 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
We've been watching the H3 for some time. Looking to replace wifey's(Ex Range Rover, Ex RAV4) vehicle in the next few. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

It'll be a formitable addition to the family. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That would be a great addition. Wasn't your wife trying to talk you into getting rid of the H2 recently?

BTW, though not as bad as Ken's, your new avatar just isn't the same after the pic of that girl got photochopped recently. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

KenP

09-29-2005, 05:15 PM

There's nothing sexually arousing in those pics. Well, for most of us. No close up, tight, thong butt shots. No close up, wet, tight, bikini shots. No see through tops or bottoms. No chicks kissing each other. No camel toe. No nip-slips. No models. No reason to complain. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

H3 Hummer

09-29-2005, 06:07 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think it was Motor-Trend who ranked it second out of 6 top of the line SUV's. Like Tourag, Jeep, Toyota, etc. It was second to the Land Rover LR3 only because of less power. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry it was actually Truck Trend Magazine.

http://trucktrend.com/toc/163_0510_cover_pl.jpg

DennisAJC

09-29-2005, 06:17 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
That would be a great addition. Wasn't your wife trying to talk you into getting rid of the H2 recently?
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Getting her an H3 will protect me of that. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Strangers, friends, enemies, wives,....They're all just jealous. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

HummerNewbie

09-29-2005, 06:38 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
That would be a great addition. Wasn't your wife trying to talk you into getting rid of the H2 recently?
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Getting her an H3 will protect me of that. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Strangers, friends, enemies, wives,....They're all just jealous. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL, you have a point there http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

f5fstop

09-29-2005, 07:48 PM

come on guys, are the window controls really that bad? for the past two-weeks i have been driving with just a left hand, while my right hand is in a cast halfway up my arm. i can steer. operate the windows, put it in gear, turn the ign sw on/off, etc. only thing i do with my right is to switch radio stations with one of my fingers sticking out of the cast.

as for the h3, as my chrysler buddy told me the day after he retired, if he didn't get great prices on jeeps, he would head to new mexico in a h3.

(typing w/one hand is more of a pain in the arse then working those window switches

Steve - SanJose

09-29-2005, 08:09 PM

Just my 2 cents:

I'm a fairly serious (mostly road car) enthusiast with a Porsche Boxster S, Jag X-type and H3 (purchased 7/2/05) in the household. I traded a 2002 Highlander Limited V6 for the H3 and have no regrets. I tend to use an SUV as my daily driver which works fine for gonzo urban driving in Silicon Valley. This is the first GM vehicle that I have ever owned and I'm pleasantly surprised by the high level of engineering that went into the H3.

Here are some of my observations after 5500 miles:

Power/motor - adequate, but slower than the Highlander due to the weight differnce. The inline 5 motor revs well and has decent torque. I have yet to take it into the mountains at altitude, but I'm expecting it to strain a bit there. No oil burned at first 5000 mile change.

Gas mileage - 15 in suburbia-mixed, 18 highway, driven somewhat agressively. I check my mileage at every fillup (Chevron regular). Not bad considering the weight, blunt shape, etc. The reasonable mileage is the result of GM's engine choice. The Highlander got 18/21 under the same conditions on premium gas.

Handling/ride (road) - Handling as good as the Highlander, but sometimes ride is a little "trucky" which should be expected given the offroad capabilities (and solid axle and unsprung weight). Overall, nice ride/handling for a truck based SUV.

Interior (lux pkg.) - okay room for 4 max (not 5). Nice interior but fit and finish is still not up to Toyota standards. But I am satisfied overall and fit and finish is good. Obviously something like an Explorer is more practical for family-types, but too boring for me. Front seats are most important to me and they are comfortable. Killer stereo and XM radio beats the Toyota Highlander. AC is manual, but I tend to use auto climate control systems manually anyway so that's no problem. AC runs colder than any Japanese car that I've driven.

So those are just some of my observations so far. What's lacking is mileage off road, in snow during ski season, and over high passes to Lake Tahoe, which will come later.

But what the heck, it's a Hummer, it's fun! Even my wife likes the H3 a lot!

Steve

H3 white/lux pkg./chrome pkg./chrome wheels/hitch/chrome side steps/XM/sunroof/RW locking chrome cap (yeah plenty of bling to offset the Euro cars in the garage)

gc2488

09-29-2005, 08:18 PM

Any drawbacks? I suppose you can always delve into
luxury features (like those of the loaded VW Touareg),
but here's one problem with the current H3 design:

Marker light installation is currently done by dealers,
not at the factory, and this is prone to problems.
Sometimes a lot of wind noise results.
That's what I've gathered. One dealer told me last week
that marker lights are "on constraint" and he cannot order
an H3 with them. We'll see if/when/how this is fixed...

Crisco

09-29-2005, 08:31 PM

I think HIHUMMER said it best.

For what it's worth, there are two things that I really dislike, the armrest controls\comfort thing and the e-brake pedal. For some reason I have a great deal of trouble banging the side of my leg on the stupid thing. Does anyone else have this trouble or am I on crack?

trebor

09-29-2005, 08:49 PM

We drove every vehicle available in a 150 mile radius of home. My wife wanted to buy a new car, her first ever, and I told her if she was going to buy new and I was going to take a hit on the depressiation then she better like it alot because we were going to have it a long time. When we drove the GC it had a very stiff ride and the back seat had very little room. We drove full size pickups and all of the suvs you can think of. About that time Truck Trend came out with their article and we read it and decided to do our own test of each vehicle. Needless to say we bought the H3.

If you need conviencing then the H3 is not for you.(that just means ours are a little more unique with one less person driving one)

Oh, about towing, I flat towed my Wrangler to a dry lake about 60 miles away and hardly knew the thing was back there. In the past I have pulled with an Expidition and you know it is there.

Kid Shyleen

09-29-2005, 09:28 PM

When I first saw the H3 and the manual climate controls I thought the same thing, "WTF?" Then I started realizing that I have dual climate control in my Avalanche NFE and am always trying to override the crappy control system. Specifically, I am manually controlling my auto system! My wife, who is always opposite of me on climate (and most other things) never touches the auto controls for her side. She just closes all the vents...manually. I never thought I would say this, but I can't wait for the manual control. Unfortunately I have to because my H3 won't arrive until the end of October. Anyone want a clean 03 Avalanche?

Brian H

09-29-2005, 09:34 PM

You vil buy it, and you vil like! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Steve - SanJose

09-29-2005, 09:41 PM

Trebor - that's an interesting observation about towing. I noticed when I had 3 hefty passengers in the H3, I could barely feel the difference in handling/ride/acceleration. In my previous Toyota Highlander, extra weight was much more noticeable.

Other observations:

-the driver's armrest/window controls setup is lame but not too bothersome.
-I would like a 5th gear and closer gear spacing on the automatic tranny.
-brakes are pretty good, 4 piston calipers on front-impressive for a truck
-love that huge sunroof
-backing up requires a lot of extra attention, I'm considering electronic aids later.
(fyi-Jag X-type back sensors work great)
-cargo space is only adequate with rear seat up
-space in general is only adequate due to all that heavy duty hardware and ground clearance underneath
(of course a front-wheel derived crossover SUV will have better space utilization)
-Even in the trendy Bay Area, H3's are still somewhat rare. I've only seen about a dozen on the road so far.

Steve

Sharkster

09-29-2005, 09:55 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">-brakes are pretty good, 4 piston calipers on front-impressive for a truck
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>Wow... is that true? That's like a "Brembo Porsche brake". Didn't even know that before you posted it.

A 4 piston brake is pretty impressive indeed. GM should point that out in their advertisment a little more.

PCBeach

09-29-2005, 10:00 PM

Traded in my 2004 Grand Cherokee. Really like my H3.
My GC was not fulltime 4 wheel...All H3s are.
My GC had floor 4X4 shift..H3=electronic button.
My GC tiny front seats..H3 big & comfortable.
My GC a small SUV....H3 a large midsize truck.
My GC good view..H3 great driving view.
My GC stiff rough ride..H3 softer and smoother.
My GC 6 cyl noisy...H3 very very quiet.
Wife says the GC was smaller and easier to drive but loves the H3 ride and comfort.

Steve - SanJose

09-29-2005, 10:14 PM

Yea and the brakes have good sized rotors too.

Even sports car types (like me) should be impressed by some of the hardware on this truck (H3). Even the I5 motor is sophisticed for a truck (DOHC-4 values per, var. exhaust value timing, alum. block and head, balance shafts) As I said before GM/Hummer put some engineering into this rig. You can tell after you drive it for a while.

Of course there are tradeoffs such as power/economy, interior space/off road suspension and clearance, etc. Not a minivan-substitute SUV with 3rd row seating.

For those shopping for the most practical SUV, there are plenty of other choices. I consider it like an affordable Land Rover LR3 (premium SUV with serious offroad capabilities).

Steve

H3 Hummer

09-29-2005, 10:56 PM

Like Nothing Else!

http://www.hummer-fr.com/images/hummer-02.jpg

H3Shopper

09-30-2005, 12:13 AM

Okay, actually some thoughtful responses there, and thanks for those. The "if you're hesitating, then its not for you" responses were worthless. I don't drive a car based on what other people think of it....I drive it because it satisfies MY needs.

I admit, I'm looking for the perfect vehicle for me. I need some serious off-road capability (although not Moab serious), but I also practically live in the car during the week. So, yeah, the little things are important to me.

While the H3 seems like the best candidate so far, it is hardly perfect.

The 1999 GC was perfect for me, but they destroyed it over the years. I don't even like the 2004 models, because they made the seats too cushy, and the power steering over corrects and feels mushy. The 2005 is right out -- the cheap plastic they used on the dash and doors is an absolute no go.

I'm encouraged by the towing ability discussed above. If the H3 was available in a tubo diesel today, then I would already be signing the papers....

walc

09-30-2005, 12:22 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3Shopper:
I don't drive a car based on what other people think of it....I drive it because it satisfies MY needs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then why title your topic, "So, sell me on the H3...."? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

H3 Hummer

09-30-2005, 01:44 AM

If a picture is worth a thousand words than this video is worth a million.

Very nicely done.
H3Video (http://www.driveyourhummer.com/QuickTimeMovies/H3Combined.mov)

kacyk

09-30-2005, 02:29 AM

Go to Budget and rent an H3 for a day. It's not for everyone but it is certainly does attract a wider range of people that the H2.

H3Shopper

09-30-2005, 01:33 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kacyk:
Go to Budget and rent an H3 for a day. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

BEST advice in the thread!! I think I'll rent one for a week, and if the little things bug me too much, then I'll know to look elsewhere!

H3Shopper

09-30-2005, 01:34 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3Shopper:
I don't drive a car based on what other people think of it....I drive it because it satisfies MY needs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then why title your topic, "So, sell me on the H3...."? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, that was probably confusing. I am interested in what other H3 owners think about some of the H3. What I meant was that I don't care about the image the H3 projects.

SteveRH

09-30-2005, 01:50 PM

Simply put - I love the ride... I love the feel... I love the sound... I clock watch until I can get out and drive again... Unfortunately, I am also money conscious, so I drive to the train station and park (5 blocks away from home)... Doh...

TorontoJeff

09-30-2005, 02:23 PM

I think it's like when Luis Armstrong was asked to define Jazz Music: "If you have to ask, you'll never know"

Ipedog

09-30-2005, 03:45 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think it's like when Luis Armstrong was asked to define Jazz Music: "If you have to ask, you'll never know" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

x2

HumbleAg

09-30-2005, 07:50 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ipedog:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think it's like when Luis Armstrong was asked to define Jazz Music: "If you have to ask, you'll never know" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

x2 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Luis Armstrong? Is that the long-lost hispanic half-brother of Louie?

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TomCat

10-01-2005, 08:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I admit, I'm looking for the perfect vehicle for me. I need some serious off-road capability (although not Moab serious), but I also practically live in the car during the week. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looked at a LWB Rubi?

If you want serious off-road capability and user-friendly manners as a DD, check it out.

And for a lot less than an H3.

It's all good, no matter which way you go.

Enjoy!

Don Flan

10-04-2005, 04:54 AM

If the 1999 GC is the "perfect" truck for you then why not fix it up or get another one in better condition? They're all over the place, ebay has two pages of them, on has under 30k miles on it. Even if you have to drop in a new Engine or Tranny in a higher milage one, it's still a lot cheaper than a new h3, and you get the "perfect" truck for you. For me the perfect rig is an early 70's Bronco. I have two of them, (actually 2 1/2) My 72' is set up for off roading, my 74 is more my daily driver, and the other one's for parts. In a couple of years, when prices come down a bit more, I'd like to add an H2 into the mix. I also have a 64 FJ40 that I dropped a 350 Chevy engine in!!! Thing's hot!!! Now I can get through narrower trails!!! Don't settle man, life's too short - DF