With the MD talk, I had to do a double take. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I understand, MD and crabs does seem to go hand in crotch, so to speak.

I believe that's been covered already.

I believe that's been covered already. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Be easy on him- he's s-l-o-w.

I would but I don't drive a CJ. And I do understand the meaning of the video. It was funny from the perspective of a hummer owner. I wonder how you would take a video that put hummers in the same light...especialy if whoever made the video stated that it was only trying to get back at all the mis-information the hummer world puts out against jeeps. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmm, an atv is 3'~ 4' wide and a cj is 5'~ 6' wide, you would drive a cj thru two trees that are say 4.5' apart?

And if you actually spend a few mins and read this entire thread, you wouldn't be bringing up these same old arguments. Yes the vid was funny and not only to hummer owners. There have been jeep owners coming over to this board and think it was funny as well. And yes hummers have been and still are under the same light as many owners on this board will agree. Which is the point of this vid.

So you think the maker of this vid should've put a disclaimer/explanation at the end of this vid? I surely don't recall any disclaimer/explanation when I see all the crap ppl put out on the net. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I haven't seen any response from above comments from drmoab yet.

First off. I don't automaticly see an H2 going down the road and say to myself "there goes another Prick driving an H2" . Same with Rubicons.

I will admit it...I came here with a sour attitude. You guys would have done the same.I came here...threw up some attitude...you threw back and I threw some more...and on and on.

For everything I have said...Normally I am not really the judgemental type of person.
I don't automaticly hate anyone or anything unless given a good reason too. That being said I have seen lots of judgmental attitudes from...Im not going to even say hummers...Lets just say people with affluence in fancy cars...
Be it getting cut off, or having people not use turnsignals whatever.

Here is the bottom line. If I meet you out on the trail. I am not automaticly thinking you are an ass. I will treat you with the same respect I treat anyone outdoors in whatever ride they may be in.

I will be leary of attitude though...Just like Im sure you will be of me when we meet on said trail. You will be wondering if I will show you the same judgemental attitude you see all the time.

So. There it is.

Nobody hates hummers because they are too expensive. They hate the people who buy them BECAUSE they are expensive. Some of you guys here seem to be hardcore(I guess) wheelers. Some of you might have bought your hummers because you thought it would make a good wheeling machine....Thats cool.

There is a greater number of people though who buy them soley for the status symbol. To me this is just plain stupid. Its a waste of money to do that.

I hate to tell ya guys but plain and simple...the hatred started from the attitudes of alot of Hummer owners. Not because of the price,capability,looks or anyother part of the Hummer. Its mostly just driver attitude. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You do know there are many more SUVs on the road that cost much more than the h2, right? And yes, some ppl bought the h2 for wheeling and some ppl bought them for status symbol. What's wrong with that? What is your point? Why is it stupid? Does that mean every person that bought an expensive vehicle is stupid? Driver's attitude, so only ppl who drives h2 gives attitude. People who drives all other makes on the road does not give attitude

First off. I don't automaticly see an H2 going down the road and say to myself "there goes another Prick driving an H2" . Same with Rubicons.

I will admit it...I came here with a sour attitude. You guys would have done the same.I came here...threw up some attitude...you threw back and I threw some more...and on and on.

For everything I have said...Normally I am not really the judgemental type of person.
I don't automaticly hate anyone or anything unless given a good reason too. That being said I have seen lots of judgmental attitudes from...Im not going to even say hummers...Lets just say people with affluence in fancy cars...
Be it getting cut off, or having people not use turnsignals whatever.

Here is the bottom line. If I meet you out on the trail. I am not automaticly thinking you are an ass. I will treat you with the same respect I treat anyone outdoors in whatever ride they may be in.

I will be leary of attitude though...Just like Im sure you will be of me when we meet on said trail. You will be wondering if I will show you the same judgemental attitude you see all the time.

So. There it is. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

fair enough

I agree that there are plenty of people that think they are more important than everyone else. One of my biggest pet peeves is when someone parks in a handicap spot, when they are not, just because they are too lazy to walk from a normal space. You see this kind of attitude more so from people in more expensive cars but the *******s exist in every crowd. I am by no means loaded, but I am in some circles with a lot of people with VERY serious bank accounts. They are all laid back cool people, otherwise I would not associate with them. Assume that everyone is going to be like that until they give you a reason to think otherwise.

ha!

BARF!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!

You think you're so hard core.... Did you know that I bought some grape vines in 1970 and I have been making my own wine ever since? Sure it looks and tastes like ****. But this clearly shows I'm more of a REAL man than you. And yeah, I could afford a 50 cases of your expensive wine. But I PREFER not to.


P.S. I HATE fancy gas grills when a Weber charcoal one works better for less money.

Mooncricket, thanks to your last post I have a dilemma now. Do I puke or laugh my ass of first.

I thought Weber was the best....

They say on the commercials, it's 'grill rated'!

While I don't see this kind of attitude more so from ppl in more expensive cars, that is one of my biggest pet peeves as well

So....If I agree with that...does it mean that everything I just said in that last post was complete bull****?

I actually see more people in POS cars parking in handicap spaces. The I am more important than you tends to be the expensive cars though.

So....If I agree with that...does it mean that everything I just said in that last post was complete bull****? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I call BUL****

You think you're so hard core.... Did you know that I bought some grape vines in 1970 and I have been making my own wine ever since? Sure it looks and tastes like ****. But this clearly shows I'm more of a REAL man than you. And yeah, I could afford a 50 cases of your expensive wine. But I PREFER not to.


P.S. I HATE fancy gas grills when a Weber charcoal one works better for less money. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>It's always about you "GRAPE" winos. Us "MUSCADINE" wine drinkers just get left out in the cold and shunned. That's all you ever hear about is the grape wine, but muscadine wine is just as good and can get you drunk way quicker. PLUS, unlike you uppity snobs that buy it from a bottle or had to plant your own grape vine, we muscadine winers go out in the woods and pick wild muscadines to make our wine. We are the true hardcore wine maker/drinkers.

Great, another troll, but this one is different, he may not be a jeep troll but a taco troll. What's next, more pictures sharing? Or maybe more trash talking?

Listen kid, read this entire thread before you decide to make a fool of yourself. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh please do tell how I am making a 'fool of myself' I merely stated that I liked both vids! Gotta luv the knee jerk reaction this forum has!

btw - I like both vid because there is a lesson to each and EVERY crash and it is not equipment related...it is 100% driver screw ups.


Every heep owner that Ive met HATES h2's saying that they are tahoes with H2 bodies. So seriously, what are the differences between the H2 and a Tahoe aside from the 35s and lockers? Honest question as the heep owners trash yotas too. Let's see if it garners a mature answer...


ps - I dont care what the vehilce is, if its 4x4 take it off the pavement. Just around here no one ever does including yotas...drives me nuts.

It's nice to see Jeepers living in DennisAJC's thick fawkin canuckian surrender monkey skull....

BUAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Your POS Weber can't touch my Ducane!

Bring your Weber over here. I'll run my Ducane against it in a head-to-head (7 slot) grill off!

I disagree Alec,

Gas is better than charcoal because of design and size configuration.

My gas BBQ can go through NARROW areas. My charcoal BBQ is just too big to fit through my pathway because of the chimney stack near the end.

Face it, Charcoal BBQs share basically the same frame as lawnchairs. They don't belong on the patio. They should stay in the garage.

Your POS Weber can't touch my Ducane! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL!

We'll be cooking Ribeye's over the FIRE next month at Paragon. To do it properly, the fire must be hot enough to make the fire ring glow red/orange. The flame must also be atleast 4' tall. Make sure the grate is in the middle of the fire.

Chargrilled baby!

Great, another troll, but this one is different, he may not be a jeep troll but a taco troll. What's next, more pictures sharing? Or maybe more trash talking?

Listen kid, read this entire thread before you decide to make a fool of yourself. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh please do tell how I am making a 'fool of myself' I merely stated that I liked both vids! Gotta luv the knee jerk reaction this forum has!

btw - I like both vid because there is a lesson to each and EVERY crash and it is not equipment related...it is 100% driver screw ups.


Every heep owner that Ive met HATES h2's saying that they are tahoes with H2 bodies. So seriously, what are the differences between the H2 and a Tahoe aside from the 35s and lockers? Honest question as the heep owners trash yotas too. Let's see if it garners a mature answer...


ps - I dont care what the vehilce is, if its 4x4 take it off the pavement. Just around here no one ever does including yotas...drives me nuts. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are making a fool of yourself by linking that vid that every other troll brings coming to this forum.

You are making a fool of yourself because you are bringing up the same old tahoe comments every (yes, every) trolls brings. And if you actually took my advice by reading this entire thread, this question has been answered way more than once not only in this thread but probably in every thread when a jeep troll comes in and probably in many many threads in other forums.

Your POS Weber can't touch my Ducane! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ducane, baby! Of course mine is an early 80's model. Cook with it, if it breaks, I replace the burners, cook some more, replace the racks, and it just keeps on cooking. No need for anymore than double burners and a mesquite/hickory tray. Classic

You guys come here with your pre conceptions of the charcoal grill's performance and dynamics but have no proof or experiance to backup your claims. I bet you don't even own a charcoal grill!!

While Charcoal grills do share some components from the basic lawnchair frame you are forgetting that they also use parts developed for the space program.

Shessh, crawl back to the gas grill forum where you belong and STFU. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Can you say, click click..... we have ignition. Not, honey.... can you go get me some more petrol.

Woohoo, how original, this jeep troll first post is name calling already. Why no pic/vid sharing?

Proof????? Experience????? FU, I am hardcore and don't have to worry about scratches or fire rashes. This baby has cooked and keeps on cooking.

Show me pictures of your low brow charcoal grill. I bet it isn't as built as this one.

Proof????? Experience????? FU, I am hardcore and don't have to worry about scratches or fire rashes. This baby has cooked and keeps on cooking.

Show me pictures of your low brow charcoal grill. I bet it isn't as built as this one. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, baby! Now that is a sweet-ass Ducane. I'll bet you can cook 20 burgers at a time on that mutha without even breaking an axle ... er, I mean burner.

Are you gonna do a SAS on the front?