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I'd love to see your bumpy riding teeth-rattler on the highway doing more than 60mph. I bet that little thing is a pisser in a cross wind. But it is bad-ass and so hardcore. I worship it.



Keep flipping, boy. I'll tell you when to stop.

You don't like it personal? Why are you here at an H2 forum posting bull****? You made it personal with your BS postings and I simply responded to your lies. Especially the ones about where you saw the video. Don't like it when your buttons are pushed, do you.

It's always everyone else that's missing the point, isn't it. You have failed miserably at making any point except the one of making an ass of yourself. I just enjoy helping out. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Sorry paragon, you are the making an ass of yourself without anyones's help The video is posted here:

http://customers.holdenmss.com/webfi...ibuteForum.wmv

I did not see it in the pirate site unfortunately...


Like in one of my first posts, the same thing portrayed in Dennis video, can be applied to any rig, as there are planny of "funny " Videos with any rig breaking, including Hummers. His video has low riders "bling" Jeeps, the same can be found on Google Images, easily... that is what I posted. The pic of a Hummer with broken tie rods or video can also be posted in teh same location Dennis put in his video....

Spelling I can handle, but I do not understand the bad grammar on his other statement well:

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geberhard, if anyone needs to check his grammar/spelling, it's YOU! Please go back and edit your own first.

Now that was funny

You mean "plenty"? Must be the Hooked On Phonics **** they use for you guys down there.

Can't we all just.....Git along?????

Dennis,

Does the number go down with each post or does it go up

You are funny So what is teh message for those of us who still do not get it? Maybe flipping more burgers will shed the light... Hmm also not sure what you have against burger flippers, do you just do not like everyone? Maybe you should relax, go hav a burger... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your defensive replies are the exact reaction I was hoping for.

The feeling sucks when somebody bashes your ride don't it?

Nothing personal. ALOT OF THAT **** I PUT IN THE VIDEO ABOUT JEEP WAS OBVIOUSLY FALSE.

Just wanted to make a point.

If we ever meet, trust me, steaks and beer on me. That's how we are around this group. We're just a little fed up with this crap that WE NEVER started.


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Dennis,

Trust me I have nothing personal against you or anyone here,and have no reason to.. welll Paragon is getting there, but not worth my time... I saw your video and also laughed and know it was a joke. I came to thsi site a few weeks back looking on HWMVV, H2, H3 etc. I saw that the video had the address so finsing the thread was not hard, and I read through some seeing what peopel were saying and what the debate was about. If anyone thought I was going to come to a Hummer site to bash on Hummers they are wrong. I was making fun the same way you made fun on the video, so it should have been seen as such. Some peopel just did not know how to take it, and that is understandable..

I am sure if any of us here would meet face to face we would have a few beers, and have some laughs, nothing personal.

Gui

BTW Dennis, I didn't get **** done at work again today thanks to your video and thread

Paragon,

To help you undertsand, the rattle can job is done by many off roaders since it is easily repairable after rock rashes, trail scratches, or tree branches against the paint to avoid rust. A simple rattle can job can be done by most if prepped correctly.

I developed my suspension, axles and setup (Ford front), rear Chevy 14 bolt). The Jeep has been built by me for wheeling, without anyones help. I am not bashing and discussing teh buy vs build here. Or saying that my rig is bigger or better than yours. I am saying I build it. I put it togheter, and if you chill and leave behind being upset, or anything, take your time, and look at the threads on pirate and you can actually see what I have done.

Gui

GUI,

STOP! ....SHUT UP!.......

JUST SHUT UP...............

.........You had me at hello! ..........

Argh, me neither, this therad was hazardous... very few burgers flipped today Just teasing ya

Gui

Ok, you can stop flipping now. You're right about laughing about this stuff.
Have you been up on the 'Con lately?

Guess that number is going to be going up

Tears....running....eyes......lmao!

Unbelievable.

Doing Slickrock next weekend, and deer Valley in Agust. Doing some Swedish wheeling in September and Rubicon in October. Am bummed about what is happening on the Con. Just heard today that Spider Lake, a good camping area on the Con is being closed again. Bummer. Last year closed due to hazard (poo) in the lake surrounding area, and thsi year due to iresponsible wheelers driving off the trail.


Very bummed. Like I posted some pages ago, am bummed that what wheelers are actually causing trail closures, and not extreme green conservationists (nothing against conserving, but extreme . It has been hard to continue the clean ups and educate others on the trail... Hopefully people will start understanding more. We do trail clean ups, and things have gotten worse in the last years in most trails.. Hoping this will change. More info here:



http://www.delalbright.com/Rubicon/projects_05.htm


Any help and divulgation appreciated,

Gui

All this talk about burgers got me hungry, lol HMMM In and Out

Gui

Aw! You mushy little pookies are going to make me cry!!

You don't get off that damn easy. Fine, if you want to quit the crap. I'll quit pushing the buttons, but don't try to continue a lie, here. People here are just not that stupid.

Where do you suppose you got that link to the video? You got the link from pirate. Damn, what difference does it make, and why lie about something so insignificant and simple.

Either keep the trolling so we can continue with the fun or just drop it all.

Paragon,

Sorry to repeat, but you are wrong... The link was from another board... so?

http://www.bayarea4x4.com/forums/index.php?topic=4279.0

Ohhhh, you bitch!!! I hope you choke on your Double-Double.

The fun can continue...


BTW the link to the video is around in a bunch of boards, in some not giving te H2 gang a good name DO not worry, it was not me who posted it

I think a bunch of other sites has it as well, not sure if big-boys.com has posted yet, but this one was there.

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/hummerroll.html

Thsi one is just weird, why would someone do that toa rig? Maybe not his?

Fawk Not sure if a double double protein style would be popular with teh ladies

Honey would you like a double double protein style...***SMACK!!!**

But I prefer my meat inside a bun

Confucious says.. " Is good for girl to meet boy at park. It is better for boy to park meat at girl "

I like Del's site. I was checking the Rubi' info out on PBB.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=29

When I ran it(in my H2 )in October of '03 Spider was a pisser. Asshats were coming up through Little Sluice at 1am blaring Guns'N'Roses(I smashed that CD when I got home) and banging their rigs around & gunning their engines until about 3am. I really thought about a mystery beating on those *******s.
My buddy & I hauled out a couple of bags of trash that was left behind by other idiots. Nice trail, but bad situation.

You're so right- the trail will get closed because of wheelers, not enviro-kooks.

I hope you get really fat.
Hey, if you see JeepChick wedged into the drive-thru pat her on her blow hole for me.

Yep, some trails have been getting worse in the last years, if I had a buck for every can of Coors light and Corona I picked from teh trails we go... It is a sucky situation. A lot of kids that do not see the problem in front of their faces. getting pretty bad, and the Rubicon may become a posterchild to what is coming out next. Mored education needed, enforcement needed, trail manners, good common sense (too much drinking and driving on the trails lately). It gives wheeling and the sport a bad image it does not need. Also impacts anyone who wishes to even take their families on a simple SUV camp out.

We try enfrocing, even about people packing their poo out of the trail, but some just laugh, and keep on trashing. Pretty sad. On the plkus side, the community is recognizing this issues, and more aliances are forming to help prevent that, educate, and enforce good trail manners. Kind aonly time will tell, but do not wait.

I dig scuba, and anytime I am under I also collect piles of trash beer cans, plastic, bottles, etc. Would be easy to blame people fishing in the areas, and cope out, but it is not about that. Some people are not getting it until it is too late. It has got to change sometime.

Gui

That's exactly why we all have to band together to keep our trails open. Education is the paramount issue. Responsibility for one's actions is the next.

So I heard kind of a nasty rumor about you some of you guys today. A Moab Local friend of mine said he was there at the Esclalator in Moab when you filmed that little piece. He said what you can't see in the video is the winch line hooked to the front. Any truth to this?

Also said that the hummer guys were the biggest bunch of unfriendly pricks he has ever run into on a trail.

Now I am not attacking anyone because I don't know if its true or not but if it is true maybe that explains a lot why you guys get razzed on the trail so much.

Attitude is everything ya know.

TOTALLY WRONG!

There was a Hummer group there (2 groups) that were total pricks, but they weren't H2s.

I'm being totally honest with you, we are the friendliest bunch you would ever meet in Moab. No joke.

DRTYFN did The Escalator UNAIDED. Took a few tried but he did it.

DrMoab, may i suggest you take the time to read this whole thread before you start making comments like all trolls do: So I heard... A friend said... and yada yada yada...

During the last 24 hours, there has been many of you (possibly from the jeep boards?) coming over talking trash and still doesn't get the meaning of Dennis video...

Sigh.

To add to that,

We actually spent some time with a Jeep group(About 12 of them) and we cheered them on as they went up Hell's Gate. They even gave one of our members a ride throught the obstacle. We all cheered and swapped cameras to take as they ascended and descended.


The only time we had a problem was when the "Other" group (H1s) were being snobby and doing stupid things like park in handicap spots and fire hydrants.



And to add more honesty to that, non of our group tried Hell's Gate. I had attempted Potato Salad but was too scared to try Hell's Gate. Huh, go figure. That is why we'll be going again this year. Just for that specific one.

Take geberhard for instance, first he was talking **** now he is trying to make friends?

So, I heard the <span class="ev_code_RED">FACT</span>, not rumor, that a bunch of Jeepers where running around everywhere off trail, leaving all kind of trash on the trail, and basically giving wheelers a bad name to the citizens of Moab at this past easter jeep safari. So, STFU and quit putting your foot in your mouth. If you were remotely interested in anything here other that stirring the **** pot you would look at the original Moab video that shows that H2 going up Escalator and it's not edited in any way.

By the way, here is what a Moab local had to say about the Jeepers being there during the safari:

I think the Jeepers are still just pissed off that Jeep lost the Jeep/Hummer Grill lawsuit case in court!

[quote]Originally posted by PARAGON:
So, I heard the <span class="ev_code_RED">FACT</span>, not rumor, that a bunch of Jeepers where running around everywhere off trail, leaving all kind of trash on the trail, and basically giving wheelers a bad name to the citizens of Moab at this past easter jeep safari. So, STFU and quit putting your foot in your mouth. If you were remotely interested in anything here other that stirring the **** pot you would look at the original Moab video that shows that H2 going up Escalator and it's not edited in any way.

By the way, here is what a Moab local had to say about the Jeepers being there during the safari: Slow down there man...I wasn't trying to stir any pots. I was really curious if this was fact or fiction.

As far as the EJS trust me I agree with you totally. I am so sick of all the ass hats that show up down there.

The group I run with doesn't even go on Easter just for this reason.

The Red Rockers...the group that put on the EJS has been batting around the idea of switching the safari to a weekend in May to get away from spring break weekend.

Its not the actual paying members of the EJS that is causing all the problems. Its all the yahoos that show up down there thinking its just a good spring break party spot.

But these guys aren't just driving jeeps. They are driving jeep,buggies,chevys,broncos,scouts and problebly a few of their daddys hummers also.

If your group wasn't the group in question thats cool. I just wanted to know.

Its funny you guys remind me of a bunch of whipped puppys. You really must get a lot of **** on the trail...way more then I realized to be so defensive.

On and as far as the video....yeah I get the point.I think most of us do.

Whipped puppies?

We get **** on the trail, **** on the street by eco-nazi's, **** on 4x4 forums and **** on in the media. So yeah, being a little defensive would be expected. I'm not saying this with violins in the background it is just a fact.

For instance, I went to a park forum to ask about the trails to try and got so much crap my arms were full. "I have to see this, I've never seen a Hummer roll before! Hur hur."

Here's the link:
http://www.paragonap.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5599

We ended up being friends in the end but we always have to prove something you know.

BTW, the video is on that forum too.



Then we have this little rilvary and you show up in the midst of it questioning our members accomplishments and attitudes when we go out of our way to help the name of our vehicles. Are you getting the picture?

The way I see it...To question is a lot different then to judge. I never judged any of you.