I have a small Weber now... WE have a small Weber now.

What about other brands and sizes. Looking to cook for around 15 people everyother weekend.

I hate the igniters. It doesn't seem to matter what they say at the store... The damn thing lasts one week!

i havent read all the responses so perhaps some of these issues have already been addressed.

i have to make several comments on the anti-jeep video. it begins with the scene of the woman jeeper rolling down hells gate. one thing i never saw in your video however, has an h2 even attempting hells gate. i have to wonder why that is?

the next scene shows a "heavily modified jeep" on potato salad. the video quality is poor, but that looks like a pick up truck to me. its possible that its a jeep truck but just because it may be a jeep truck does not make it a jeep.

the runaway down the lions back is a chevy blazer....you know, the h2 cousin (since the h2 is a tahoe with big tires).

the next scene shows a jeep liberty as trail rated for the mall. no respectable jeeper will argue this. the liberty is made by jeep, but it is not a jeep, nor is it accepted as one.

the next scene shows a couple h2's climbing hills that i could ride in my 4 year old daughters barbie jeep. big deal. if you want to show me an h2 action video, show me a video like this: http://7SlotGrille.com/multimedia/rubiford.html

climbing lions back is respectable, but lets face it theres no real challenge there. a subaru outback would handle lions den.

the next scene says "yj, tj, liberty... same frame same parts same result". at best this is bad information, at worst its simply a lie. a liberty doesnt even have a frame, its unibody. the liberty has a short arm IFS system (you know, just like the h2). the liberty uses a high revving v6 engine. the yj and tj are rigid frame builds with _real_ front axles and an inline 6 with a very flat torque curve.

the crack segment was impressive. im amazed to see such a large battleship make it through. good job there.

the jeep stuck in the mud with the h2 recovery sign was stupid. it would have been fine if the video showed an h2 attempting the same hole afterwards. since it didnt its a very hollow victory.

the hitler segment was disgusting.

there were many pictures of stuck jeeps but none of them were followed by an h2 trying the same spots. try watching this video, and learn a little about credibility: http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/hu...ummervsxj.html

when youre done laughing, enjoy these:

http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/hu...mmerssuck.html

http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/hummers/deadh2.html

http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/hummers/h2tr.wmv

and no trip down reality lane would be complete without the final authority on jeep vs. hummer as: http://7SlotGrille.com/hummer

this is just a small taste. i have video of stock jeep rubicons riding upper trail #2 at tellico. funny thing, ive _never_ seen an h2 at tellico. i wonder why that is?

certainly my response is intended as humorous. afterall, nobody could seriously believe that an h2 is anywhere near as capable as a short wheel base live axle jeep. :-)

No one in australia buys them to wheel.. Hmmm... Maybe, just maybe, because they are not widely available over there? Are HUMMERS brought in officially or do you have to go thru the gray market? I didn't see any hummers when i was there.

Everyone owns patrols & troopies? Are you sure? I do recall seeing many pajeros & defenders on & off roads...

And you should read all the responses because every issues have been addressed too many times. That's why you will also find many unrelated topics within because most of the veterans of this forum are bored with all the jeep trolls jumping in and doing the same thing again & again & again ...

7,

The video links that you just posted IS the reason I made this H2 Tribute Video.

By your reaction and negativity, I have achieved the result I was hoping.

Listen buddy,

The stuff I put in that video about the jeeps were in whole NOT TRUE. I'm sure you already know that. I just wanted you guys to feel the torment we've been going through this past 3 years.

The BS that's being flung around about us, it's only inevitable we would reach a breaking point.

Put yourself in our shoes and see the message.
On the internet we'll battle. Out on the trails, we should stick together.

Anyways, this thread has changed. Unless you have any sick BBQ pics, these guys won't be interested anymore.

Welcome to our HELL.

hehe sheesh guys.. we cop the same **** as you.. dont fret.. I thought it was all on good fun..
sorry I left out disco's and whatever the other on was you mentioned.. considering by his own admission his video was in fact to get a rise and not all that factual I would have assumed you lads would be good at a little friendly banter.. oh well.. my bad..
Im off to drink my latte and cook some t-bones on my non webber BBQ

It is amazing how the threat of the Hummer to their wheeling kingdom will cause a Jeep site to dedicate all that space to bashing Hummers. Get a clue you idiot. You don't see that sh*t here. The only time the Jeep is bashed here is in response to trolls coming in and bashing Hummers. I feel so sorry for you that you feel so threatened by Hummers that you have to dedicate so much of your time bashing them. Maybe you should get a life and just go out and wheel with some. Maybe then you could let your narrow little scared mind wrap around the fact that the Hummer is an EXTREMELY capable vehicle and you can put you petty jealousy behind you

Webber, oh man, you have got to get a real grill

Now that you are on the correct topic, you are no longer in the wrong forum

NON webber dewd..
got a good marinade recipe .. something with a little bite to it..

Almost always marinade. Been working on getting it perfect for some time now. Always enjoy the taste testing

What? Is it recipes now you fruity little queens.

mmm spicy fruit marinade..
I think your onto something darling

Good reason for another post

I am so tired of every critic of the H2 jumping on the tie rods being weak. Yes they suck, but you know what you can do... Replace them with better ones!!! I am a huge jeep fan and have owned several through the years. Having done this I know that the jeep is awesome off road, with serious modifications. They come from the factory with tires to small need replaced. (Usually first thing any jeeper does) This leads to a lift kit. Big tires usually overwhelm weak axles as I bent my Dana 35 first time off road(Replaced with Dana 44, always worried about Dana 30 in front) It will now need more power so switch those gears out next. Jeeps are great, they are like Harley Davidsons, no one wants to ride around on a stock one. Jeep created the Rubicon for the same reasons that I bought my H2. It comes to the buyer ready to go (Although tires are still too small and Dana 44s are far from being considered strong for anything larger then a 35 inch tire. Yes I love my H2 as it is a great package, combining capability and luxury. I also love jeeps for there capability and ease of modification. I was glad to see the people that actually read through this thread come to an understanding. Not better vehicles, just different.

Here's a marinade that's used by a local rest.:
Sugar
Sherry
Pineapple juice
Teriyaki
It's good if you like it sweet.

Myself, I just toss whatever I feel like into a ziplock and let it sit for a while.

GRILLS.
Thanks for the suggestion, Seth. Maybe a smoker in the future, too.

No...they aren't any smarter...they are just used to getting the same **** you guys get.

They know how you all feel.

No...they aren't any smarter...they are just used to getting the same **** you guys get.

They know how you all feel. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol that is soooo true...

Close to mine but there are several secret ingredients I can't tell you about


Ziplocks are the best for marinading. I just have a little trouble finding the 2 gallon bags sometimes

Sfox, CHARCOAL??? I can't believe you had to kill a tree after you kill a cow.. you... you... MONSTER! Tread lightly? You're ALL TALK aren't you?! GAS is the way to go!!

702 posts, 36 pages & 13121 views in 6 days!!! I think that's a record.

And 5 of those pages were dedicated to BBQs

It's a damn great thread when you can sit around and watch a great video with the BBQ. There is only on thing missing. Who was supposed to bring the beer?

The newbie always brings the beer.... Duh.

Oh SH*T

Forget I said anything

The newbie always brings the beer.... Duh. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

HN,

Make mine Canadian beer. Silver Bullet reeks.

Sorry everyone, but had a little trouble on my way to the servers to deliver the beer

Dennis, if you look real close, there is a case of Canadian beer in there for you

Nice post if this is yours , (and don't take it as a flame either)and I m sorry to hear that your family had to deal with this kind of crap. tread lightly.

Originally Posted by DennisAJC
Guys,

I bought my Pewter H2 in Nov 2002, delivered March 2003. I wanted a capable wheeler where I could bring my family and not sacrafice on space for gear and stuff. Grand Cherokee was not going to do that for me IMHO.

I'm not a fan of BLING and I wheel when I can. I'm not afraid to take risks and I'll push my limits without worrying too much about carnage let alone scratches. I'm just like you, I work hard, play hard, and joke alot.

I've found a handful of H2 wheelers who feel the same way. We're all spread apart by hundreds/thousands of miles but we try and get together in MOAB about twice a year with other Jeeps/Discos/Yotas.

For almost 3 years now, my H2 has been spat on, kicked, keyed, heckled, egged.

When I drive it I get yelled at, fingered at, laughed at, cut off, threatened. Even with my wife and two boys 2 and 5 now.

On the trails, same thing.

I use to belong to Jeep Forum because of my past. The hate and misinformation about the H2 has been flung around that site uncontrollably for years now. Just these few months it started spreading into our Forum and the war began.

There wasn't much fight in us because most of the H2ers were ex and present Jeep owners also and we staill had a certain loyalty to the brand. The mocking and misinformation continued until there was a breaking point. Jerry Bransford.

BTW. Jerry Bransford has some pretty ****ty comments about Rubi's also just in case somebody here vouches for him.


ALL THE THINGS STATED AGAINST THE JEEP IN THAT VIDEO ARE FALSE.

The video was just an excercise in "how does it feel" when the tables are turned. What we've gone through over the years. If I spread lies about their rigs the way they spread lies about ours? The Saddam and Hitler was distasteful but purely for shock effect.

Sure watching idiots bling their rides and some who'll never(About 95%)see a gravel road, doesn't help our reputation. But you can't do that kind **** to a fellow wheeler and judge him by what he drives whithout knowing the driver.

Everyone now says H2ers are *******s and snobs...

Over the years of fist fights,arguments,middle fingers, and heckles, H2 owners including myself, have developed "Tunnel Vision" which can be mistaken as snooty. I'm just weary to look at the driver next to me or passing a fellow wheeler and run the risk of getting "The response". Even the majority of H1 owners shun us. Mabye 70% of wheelers I've approached to say hi and talk shop have been bad experiences so I just stopped doing that unless they approached me.

Jeepers and Rubicons that have wheeled with us, know we are an EXTREMELY friendly bunch. We will run to aid anyone who asks and will buy a fellow wheeler a beer or ten.

We already have enviromentalists issues to deal with but to have the wheelin community come down on you on top of that, can you blame us?

Some here will say that rivalries have happened for years, but have you heard of a FUjeep, FUrubicon,FUyota.com before? FUH2 is a thorn.

If you visit our Forum, come as a fellow wheeler ,be friends and possible cross paths for fun and booze. Come in to insult us, like any Forum, you guys know what the response will be. We're not bad people. We're just like you. But fed up. 3 years of BS vs 1 week of Video, call it even.

We DEFINITELY DON'T have a beef with Rubicon Owners Forum and do not wish to have one....Please.

Thanks for your time. Again, I am truly sorry this has reached your Forum and disrupted Rubicon Members. It was never intended.[/quote]

Yup, That's me.

This was intended for the fued between JF and us. NEVER expected it would get out of hand and disrupt other forums.

The folks at Rubicon Owners Forum are a genuinely great bunch of people and I felt they deserved an explanation.

Nothing I've said above is new. This is the message most H2 owners have been trying to relay for years now. It's unfortunate it took a video for it to be heard.

I don't think it could have been said any better than that. Well done Dennis, both on that post and with the video

See, I go through the same BS you guys do.. and this guy really believes this BS. Hey '7' why don't you wheel with a few KJs from LOST ( http://www.lostkjs.com ) before you pass judgement like that. What's the popular saying here? Oh yeah, GFY.

To Dennis.. while I still wish you hadn't put the Hitler/Hussien shots in there (video would have been just as effective without them IMHO) I think you've accomplished what you wanted and after all the tempers flair down I think the H2 community just might be a bit better off. I know I don't look at them the same anymore. Also, if you do'nt mind I'm going to copy your post from the Rubi forums onto the LOST forums..

HA!

To the victory come the spoils of war.

Cut and posting your message Dennis. Bravo!

Dennis,

When are yellow H2 "ridestrong" armbands going to be released?

And, I'd like to be the first to volunteer for the H2 "we are the world" soundtrack.

Seriously, guys, what did I ever do to you?

You don't just come on a forum without giving a little background on yourself.

What kind if grill do you use and what types of wine do you drink?

Any truth the rumor that Jerry is really Mac?

You don't just come on a forum without giving a little background on yourself.

What kind if grill do you use and what types of wine do you drink? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Weber, white zinfandel in a box.

I am not happy at all about you guys quoting me in that video. The H2's tie rod is notoriously weak, so I don't know what you are complaining about.

I have no idea who Mac is, rest assured I am not him.

perhaps youre right.


it was not my intention to troll your forum and i apologize if thats how my response was perceived. i didnt read anywhere in your TOS about opposing viewpoints so i figured that an opposing view would be acceptable.