702 posts, 36 pages & 13121 views in 6 days!!! I think that's a record.

And 5 of those pages were dedicated to BBQs

It's a damn great thread when you can sit around and watch a great video with the BBQ. There is only on thing missing. Who was supposed to bring the beer?

The newbie always brings the beer.... Duh.

Oh SH*T

Forget I said anything

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HN,

Make mine Canadian beer. Silver Bullet reeks.

Sorry everyone, but had a little trouble on my way to the servers to deliver the beer

Dennis, if you look real close, there is a case of Canadian beer in there for you

Nice post if this is yours , (and don't take it as a flame either)and I m sorry to hear that your family had to deal with this kind of crap. tread lightly.

Originally Posted by DennisAJC
Guys,

I bought my Pewter H2 in Nov 2002, delivered March 2003. I wanted a capable wheeler where I could bring my family and not sacrafice on space for gear and stuff. Grand Cherokee was not going to do that for me IMHO.

I'm not a fan of BLING and I wheel when I can. I'm not afraid to take risks and I'll push my limits without worrying too much about carnage let alone scratches. I'm just like you, I work hard, play hard, and joke alot.

I've found a handful of H2 wheelers who feel the same way. We're all spread apart by hundreds/thousands of miles but we try and get together in MOAB about twice a year with other Jeeps/Discos/Yotas.

For almost 3 years now, my H2 has been spat on, kicked, keyed, heckled, egged.

When I drive it I get yelled at, fingered at, laughed at, cut off, threatened. Even with my wife and two boys 2 and 5 now.

On the trails, same thing.

I use to belong to Jeep Forum because of my past. The hate and misinformation about the H2 has been flung around that site uncontrollably for years now. Just these few months it started spreading into our Forum and the war began.

There wasn't much fight in us because most of the H2ers were ex and present Jeep owners also and we staill had a certain loyalty to the brand. The mocking and misinformation continued until there was a breaking point. Jerry Bransford.

BTW. Jerry Bransford has some pretty ****ty comments about Rubi's also just in case somebody here vouches for him.


ALL THE THINGS STATED AGAINST THE JEEP IN THAT VIDEO ARE FALSE.

The video was just an excercise in "how does it feel" when the tables are turned. What we've gone through over the years. If I spread lies about their rigs the way they spread lies about ours? The Saddam and Hitler was distasteful but purely for shock effect.

Sure watching idiots bling their rides and some who'll never(About 95%)see a gravel road, doesn't help our reputation. But you can't do that kind **** to a fellow wheeler and judge him by what he drives whithout knowing the driver.

Everyone now says H2ers are *******s and snobs...

Over the years of fist fights,arguments,middle fingers, and heckles, H2 owners including myself, have developed "Tunnel Vision" which can be mistaken as snooty. I'm just weary to look at the driver next to me or passing a fellow wheeler and run the risk of getting "The response". Even the majority of H1 owners shun us. Mabye 70% of wheelers I've approached to say hi and talk shop have been bad experiences so I just stopped doing that unless they approached me.

Jeepers and Rubicons that have wheeled with us, know we are an EXTREMELY friendly bunch. We will run to aid anyone who asks and will buy a fellow wheeler a beer or ten.

We already have enviromentalists issues to deal with but to have the wheelin community come down on you on top of that, can you blame us?

Some here will say that rivalries have happened for years, but have you heard of a FUjeep, FUrubicon,FUyota.com before? FUH2 is a thorn.

If you visit our Forum, come as a fellow wheeler ,be friends and possible cross paths for fun and booze. Come in to insult us, like any Forum, you guys know what the response will be. We're not bad people. We're just like you. But fed up. 3 years of BS vs 1 week of Video, call it even.

We DEFINITELY DON'T have a beef with Rubicon Owners Forum and do not wish to have one....Please.

Thanks for your time. Again, I am truly sorry this has reached your Forum and disrupted Rubicon Members. It was never intended.[/quote]

Yup, That's me.

This was intended for the fued between JF and us. NEVER expected it would get out of hand and disrupt other forums.

The folks at Rubicon Owners Forum are a genuinely great bunch of people and I felt they deserved an explanation.

Nothing I've said above is new. This is the message most H2 owners have been trying to relay for years now. It's unfortunate it took a video for it to be heard.

I don't think it could have been said any better than that. Well done Dennis, both on that post and with the video

See, I go through the same BS you guys do.. and this guy really believes this BS. Hey '7' why don't you wheel with a few KJs from LOST ( http://www.lostkjs.com ) before you pass judgement like that. What's the popular saying here? Oh yeah, GFY.

To Dennis.. while I still wish you hadn't put the Hitler/Hussien shots in there (video would have been just as effective without them IMHO) I think you've accomplished what you wanted and after all the tempers flair down I think the H2 community just might be a bit better off. I know I don't look at them the same anymore. Also, if you do'nt mind I'm going to copy your post from the Rubi forums onto the LOST forums..

HA!

To the victory come the spoils of war.

Cut and posting your message Dennis. Bravo!

Dennis,

When are yellow H2 "ridestrong" armbands going to be released?

And, I'd like to be the first to volunteer for the H2 "we are the world" soundtrack.

Seriously, guys, what did I ever do to you?

You don't just come on a forum without giving a little background on yourself.

What kind if grill do you use and what types of wine do you drink?

Any truth the rumor that Jerry is really Mac?

You don't just come on a forum without giving a little background on yourself.

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Weber, white zinfandel in a box.

I am not happy at all about you guys quoting me in that video. The H2's tie rod is notoriously weak, so I don't know what you are complaining about.

I have no idea who Mac is, rest assured I am not him.

perhaps youre right.


it was not my intention to troll your forum and i apologize if thats how my response was perceived. i didnt read anywhere in your TOS about opposing viewpoints so i figured that an opposing view would be acceptable.