Paragon,
All I said was you should not rely on gauges to tell you when it safe without factoring all the factors involved.
One more time, my point is not that gauges are bad, but that relying on gauges to tell you what is safe without the other information is bad. Kind of like relying on your speedometer to tell you what speed is safe, and assuming that if the manufactuere says 55 is safe you can travel at that speed regardless of the road, weather, and traffic.
None of my facts are wrong; I never said anything close to what you refer to below in regards to 45 degree angles, etc. If I am guilty of one thing it was saying that most clinometers marketed for 4x4 use stop well short of 45 degrees - some do, obviously.
Have I ever exceeded the minumum working load angles of the Hummer according to AM General while off-roading? Yes. Those ratings are for a vehicle at fully loaded GVWR. My truck has a reinforced rollcage for extra protection, because in the sport of off-roading, it is not uncommon for a serious wheeler to push a vehicle right to the limits of its capabilities - which is sometimes beyond manufacturer recommendations.
As far as my experience goes, I can certainly provide you with a lengthy resume of offroad experiences in Hummer vehicles.
If you have other issues with me personally, please feel free to email me privately; I am not particularly interested in entertaining your other personal attacks and emotionally driven criticisms publicly.
-Manny
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
...Since you are the off-road editor for a supposed Hummer magazine, don't you at least feel you have an inherent responsibility to have the facts straight before you spout your obvious ignorance.
...Please provide us with where the Hummer H1 has the ability to traverse an off-camber situation that is well past 45 degrees (according to your comment).
...You are obviously telling us that since Hummer provides that the H1 has a safe off-camber ability of 22 degrees, that H1s can actually easily double that number without fear of rollover.
...You talk as if you have no experience on the trail what-so-ever.
...As I asked before, how is having more information available a bad thing? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>