Seat belt notification

[FROGGY69ER]

No Paragon, not well put. You must have supported Howard Dean, because if somenoe disagrees with you, just attack him. Sorry I did not list every state where seat belt use is mandatory. I wouldn't want to break the law. Are you kidding me? That is your response? Personal freedom and responsability go hand in hand, and it is something that is always hard to address legally. We constantly walk the line between legislating away personal freedom in order to protect "Joe public."We see this type of legislation everywere,ie. smoking, driving, drinking, speech, etc, and I am not saying it is a bad thing, but it is certanly not the litmus test for every argument. Lets be honest, the States were pressured into legislating seat belt laws, just like they where forced into lowering speed limits years ago. No seat belt law, loose highway funds! So if and when the laws are relaxed, like speed limits, what will your great argument be then. It is amazing to me, that the same people that have to defend there car buying decisions to the ill-informed are so quick to slam others when they think differently.

As far as his argument against wearing his seat belt, who cares. I don't always wear mine, and I don't have to give you a reason. It is my decision, and if I get a ticket, I will pay it and move on.

Now, I am sure all the "tuff guy" responses will start flying now, so I will ask all of you to grow up.

[H3Witch]

You started this thread - but no more preaching from me...it seems the posters so far agree it's not a major issue - wear the belt or live with the sound.

[FROGGY69ER]

****ING PUSSY

[H3Witch]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bender:
wear your seatbelt 100% of the time

...problem solved

(or spend some time in the ICU with me and you will never take off your seatbelt again) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree with Bender - wear it! No excuses - they are too easy to make. Just lost a friend one week ago who didn't have his on - throw out of car...lost a cousin 5 years ago - same thing no seat belt. What is it going to take to make people wake up? A little lack of comfort is a heck of a lot better than ending up in an ER room with a sheet over your face...I'm only 5'2" and I have yet to find a comfortable seat belt, but I still wear it.

[h3\'er]

Ok, Ok
as to the original question.. All Chimes, Seatbelt, keys, door are generated by the radio. only way to disable them is remove the radio.

[Georgemarc]

Froggy - you are just sitting here, waiting for another post, how pathetic. Feel sorry for you buddy.

[H17]

H3Witch -- in my opinion, he did what I find happens to me on these insane Internet boards from time to time. You start out answering with class (look at his initial post -- he was simply replying to my question, unlike all the people who tried preaching to me about something that should have been on another topic), and you get so frustrated that the profanity, etc. follows. Perfectly logical. When you're dealing with illogical people who seem to only be here for an argument, you're going to lose your cool.

Froggy has answered my question and tried to keep the thread on topic. H3Witch, on the other hand, all you have done is preach and criticize, but have not given me any kind of answer. So Froggy's posts are of far more benefit, in my opinion.

[Georgemarc]

Co-pilot, you summed it up well. But then Froggy comes back, surprise, surprise.
Only, what I am sure he does not realize is, that he just further validates what you and Paragon have been saying all along.
Froggy, do you see that yet???? Didn't think so.

[FROGGY69ER]

Thanks H17. H3Witch, you are absolutely right. Lowering myself to the point where I responded to personal attacks with profanity is definately stepping backwards. When arguments deteriorate to that point, most people stop reading them. On the other hand, when someone hides behind there keyboard and thinks they can call people stupid, low class, etc., well, you have to respond. I learned a long time ago to never underestimate, or assume to know the quality or abilty, of others. It is a sure fire way to get yourself in a bad situation, embarassed, or worse. People who do that are usually very predictable, and I think if you read the posts, you can see what I mean. It is frustrating, because you know that most of these people would never say these things to others if they had to do it in person, but it is safe to do it online. With that said, no more profanity and I will be the bigger man and stop responding to such childish posts. No more "ear muffs."

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FROGGY69ER:
****ING PUSSY </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I bet you're STILL hovering over this thread waiting for more attention.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FROGGY69ER:
Thanks H17. H3Witch, you are absolutely right. Lowering myself to the point where I responded to personal attacks with profanity is definately stepping backwards. When arguments deteriorate to that point, most people stop reading them. On the other hand, when someone hides behind there keyboard and thinks they can call people stupid, low class, etc., well, you have to respond. I learned a long time ago to never underestimate, or assume to know the quality or abilty, of others. It is a sure fire way to get yourself in a bad situation, embarassed, or worse. People who do that are usually very predictable, and I think if you read the posts, you can see what I mean. It is frustrating, because you know that most of these people would never say these things to others if they had to do it in person, but it is safe to do it online. With that said, no more profanity and I will be the bigger man and stop responding to such childish posts. No more "ear muffs." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'll tell you what. You have all of what, 36 posts on this forum and to my knowledge, no other member of this forum knows you. Ask about me here.

Do one better. Klaus is probably one of the most respected long time members of this forum. He met me in person one weekend. PM him and ask him what type of person I am. Ask him if I am a "little man."

You are just a dumb hypocrite spouting about underestimations and then making veiled attempts at threats against someone you know nothing about.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FROGGY69ER:
Sport!! Are u serious?

I wanted to stay out of these rediculous arguments, but I guess I got dragged in. First off, what is it that prevents "know it alls" like yourself from letting people have a discussion, without putting your two cents in? The subject was about the chime, not seat belt use.
As far as relating seat belt use to DUI, your an idiot, there is no comparison!! Stupid, well being stupid is trying to make an equivalent of the two for lack of an argument. How often are accidents caused by non-use, or an un-occupied vehicle hurting someone. The lack of seat belt is never the cause of the accident, like drinking or other impairments. I don't know, but I know it is not very high, if even an issue. Running the yellow light, rolling a stop sighn, exceeding speed limits, driving while tired(yes, this is against the law, although rarely enforced), window tint to dark, etc, how many of these things do you do? Again, not really a good comparison, but how many times a day do you break the law?? There is a reason that a seat belt ticket is only $25-50 bucks, and carries no points. In my state , they can't even stop you for it, it has to be a secondary ticket. Why, because it is not a law that should criminalize people. Lets hear your argument relating seat belt non use to murder, rape, drug use, etc. Come on, I know you have it in you!!! Get a life, and stay on subject on these posts. No one gives a **** about either one of our opinions, so we should really keep them to ourselves.

Now the Sport comment, go **** yourself. It is easy to be bold and obnoxious online, isn't it? But just like the anonymous key scratch on our vehicles, or the finger from a passing vehicle, the person always is out of reach. With that said, keep your insults and smart ass comments off these posts. I refrained from falling into this trap, but apparently some of you can't help yourselves. It is easy to talk **** from miles away, right?? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Damn, you are about as sharp as a brick. You "got dragged in" to this argument. You are participating freely or is my bold and obnoxious online self anonymously IN reach and forcing you to respond.

Sport, (is that an insult?) never did I say that DUI and seatbelt non-compliance were equilavent. I said they were both breaking the law. The point you so succinctly missed is that you, my ignorant tool, fail to realize that a line must be drawn somewhere and I simply asked where do you draw said line. I could have used any driving infraction to do so but could make an additional point by using DUI. Sorry, it all seems to be too much for you to comprehend.

Exactly what is all of this billy bad-ass talk about? Have I threatened you or been "bold and obnoxious" or "talked ****" to you. REALLY????? If you truly think so, then you are one fragile little flower.

And don't try to be the forum police, you haven't been here long enough.

[H17]

Hello everyone -- I am new to these boards, and seriously considering purchasing a new H3 (although it's probably a few months off yet). This forum appears it will already answer most/many of my questions, but I have one question that I haven't found answered so far.

Although I wear my seat belt much of the time when driving, I do not wear it 100% of the time. My question is.. I've come across a few cars lately with really annoying seat belt notifications that continue for some time after starting the car -- something that distracts me to no end! Does the H3 have anything like this, or is it a more normal notification (a few beeps when you turn on the car, then nothing)? The new Jeep is the worst for this -- it starts over every time you hit a red light.

Although it seems like a simple manner of checking for myself on a test drive, the dealers out here will not allow you to not wear a seat belt on a test drive because of liability issues -- so it's easier to check on this forum than argue with a dealer on a test drive!

Thanks again!

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H17:
Paragon, you truly are a grade-A you-know-what. Hey, I haven't looked for a fight, I just tried to get a question answered on this forum. As a middle-aged man with a life, I don't need this garbage.

Paragon, you are completely out of line on this board -- judging by your 6000+ posts, I'm guessing this forum is your entire life. Pretty sad. But then again, I guess if I lived in Jackson, Mississippi, I'd be a bitter person too!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Nice try, but I am not going to knowingly pick on a teenager.

[Georgemarc]

Go Paragon, well put

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FROGGY69ER:
No Paragon, not well put. You must have supported Howard Dean, because if somenoe disagrees with you, just attack him. Sorry I did not list every state where seat belt use is mandatory. I wouldn't want to break the law. Are you kidding me? That is your response? Personal freedom and responsability go hand in hand, and it is something that is always hard to address legally. We constantly walk the line between legislating away personal freedom in order to protect "Joe public."We see this type of legislation everywere,ie. smoking, driving, drinking, speech, etc, and I am not saying it is a bad thing, but it is certanly not the litmus test for every argument. Lets be honest, the States were pressured into legislating seat belt laws, just like they where forced into lowering speed limits years ago. No seat belt law, loose highway funds! So if and when the laws are relaxed, like speed limits, what will your great argument be then. It is amazing to me, that the same people that have to defend there car buying decisions to the ill-informed are so quick to slam others when they think differently.

As far as his argument against wearing his seat belt, who cares. I don't always wear mine, and I don't have to give you a reason. It is my decision, and if I get a ticket, I will pay it and move on.

Now, I am sure all the "tuff guy" responses will start flying now, so I will ask all of you to grow up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>"Tuff guy??????"

Personal attack???? Even funnier? What does Howard Dean have anything to do with this? Exactly where did I say that "breaking the law" was the "litmus test" for the argument. The fact is, though, that you ARE breaking the law just the same as if you are driving your vehicle while over the legal limit for blood alchohol content. Another fact is that it is stupid and not only affects YOU as the driver but affects other drivers on the road because it can cause you to not maintain control of your vehicle. If you want to be stupid, fine. People are stupid every day. You are breaking the law and are being stupid with your own life, but are endangering the lives of others also, whether they are passengers or not. All because of a simple seat belt.

Where do you draw the line on personal rights? Is your personal right to drive while intoxicated beyond the legal limit not infringing too far? I know quite well that I have very little impairment past the legal BAC limit, but the law is the law. You see, some people ARE too dumb to know what's for their own good. Some laws that infringe on one's purported peronal rights is for the greater good.

As far as his argument about wearing a seat belt. Well, sport, he's the one posting the dumb crap here. If someone doesn't want a response, then either post something else or don't post anything at all.

[Hummer Guy]

I've never been 'on the scene' -- but I do know insurance costs go up w/ more deaths...I have only had one person ask me if its possible to turn off the chime. The answer is probably yes, but finding a person to do it may be hard...

[H17]

Oh, trust me, H17 is an adult. I was just doing a parody off the names of H1, H2, H3, etc... I figured H17 would be the one I could easily afford. :-) Just a little misguided humor. But an adult? Yes, definitely.. I don't know if there's many 17-year-olds who can afford an H3, to be honest. I know I couldn't have back then!

[FROGGY69ER]

You know Co-pilot, I tend to be a little more loyal to people. I chatted with you on an earlier post, and all was well. So you see me going at it with Littledick, I mean paradick, and you feel compelled to jump in. You fired this one over my bow. Yeah, I have seen a lot of trauma, and yes some of what I do for a living is teach people things. Things which center wholly around safety, and smart choices, so I follow your logic, but this post started differently. A man asked about the chime, and everyone had to get self-righteous about it. All they had to say was exactely what you did, "wearing a seatbelt is only out of care for that person," and it wwould have been received differently, but that isn't the way it was. I don't know what type of person you are, but how long before you get pissed? Para**** assumes this guy is a kid, I am low rent, blah..blah, and feels strong behind the safety of his keyboard. Your a nurse, tell him about what crimes of passion look like. Anyway, no problem with you, actually thought you were pretty cool before, so, your move. My name asked for it, yours kinda did too. Sorry, it was to easy.

PS- This is getting old fast, so can we all just get this out of our system quickly.

[FROGGY69ER]

The seat belt chime will beep for a while, then it stops.If you put it in park, it starts over again. I asked the guys at the dealer if you can disable it, but they didn't know.