Exxon/Mobil $9.9 billion profit for the quarter!!!

[ROX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Oops.... Alec, read the PM. I just figured out how to see the cache and who made the administration changes and I am not sure he ever actually said it WASN'T him. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
So does moderating include taking the pics out of a post? Just curious. I was reading on the H1 site and saw where Shaggy had posted a pic of his truck, but the pic is gone.
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/t...5/m/8706029735

[h2co-pilot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2 Rocks:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Oops.... Alec, read the PM. I just figured out how to see the cache and who made the administration changes and I am not sure he ever actually said it WASN'T him. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
So does moderating include taking the pics out of a post? Just curious. I was reading on the H1 site and saw where Shaggy had posted a pic of his truck, but the pic is gone.
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/t...5/m/8706029735 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Any self respecting moderator would take that POS out. That's like the vehicle goatse.

[H3OwnerDiz]

That pic shaggy posted looks like it was a link to the image on Alec's site and may have been deleted from there, not deleted from here. But I still don't know the answer to your question about other images that were uploaded as 'attachments' here.

[h2co-pilot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3OwnerDiz:
That pic shaggy posted looks like it was a link to the image on Alec's site and may have been deleted from there, not deleted from here. But I still don't know the answer to your question about other images that were uploaded as 'attachments' here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Hart1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I find that many "hard-core" conservatives become socialists the moment something affects their own wallet. Principaled, sincere, real conservatism requires one to be intellectually honest and accept the bad with the good that comes from a sincerely held and CONSISTENT belief system.

Sean </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bingo!!

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Oops.... Alec, read the PM. I just figured out how to see the cache and who made the administration changes and I am not sure he ever actually said it WASN'T him. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds like some exclusionary PM'ing is going on.

[Hart1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">If someone wrote it, you must believe it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Using your logic, then, we must not believe anything you write...Hell, you got my vote!

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hart1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">If someone wrote it, you must believe it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Using your logic, then, we must not believe anything you write...Hell, you got my vote!


</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[TootsSUT]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummertech:
Well this thread has it all. Money, politics, Hummers, football, sarcasm. I think the only thing missing is women. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>JENNIFER?????? Here's your cue! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey tech! Do ya like wang carrying no balls women??? I'm your gal!!

(I can't believe I just said that. That's just gross!)

[h2co-pilot]

Oh no, You have bawls too, we just don't like to tawk about it.

[Bondage]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by slgcmng:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:

Now what's this thread about? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Guns, chicks, gas, money, and F'in idiots </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think we got all the bases covered then </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


LMFAO!

Sean
ps - I AM the moderator. I think. Oh, no I'm not. Never mind. What's all this sh1t about a moderator? I've been busy all day - what'd I miss?

[Bondage]

I just went back and read some more.....did the Big Oil Companies come in here and lock up this thread?

Sean

[TootsSUT]

Are you calling me bawlsy?? I'll take that as a compliment! Thanks CP!!

[FreeorDie2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:

But if you're a LIEBERAL and voted for Kerry then it's understandable. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Geez! That's pretty cold blooded. . . I wouldn't even suggest that about Charles F'n Manson. . .

[FreeorDie2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HUMMERDOGG:
Paragon-

To address a few of your commments...

The price at the pump "is" raised due to the fear of future "production" disruption "because" future production disruption affects futures pricing which ultimately affects retail pump prices. Keep in mind, pricing at the pump originated on the Nymex where heating oil and unleaded gas futures trade. Refineries contract to buy their crude supplies with their purchase price tied to either the daily Nymex settle plus a fixed basis or a daily fixed price basis cash market, in turn, retail gas stations contract out to either petroleum distributors or directly with refineries and this price is tied to the current spot rack price.

World supply/demand balances "have" tightened significantly in the past four years due to the unbelieveable economic growth in China and India in 03/04.

OPEC is no longer a factor when discussing the ability to manipulate pricing. We ran from $41 to $72 this year. The last $15 of that move was driven purely off of trading technicals which continued to give these program and hedge fund traders "BUY" signals. It wasn't driven off of OPEC, supply/demand balances, the oil majors, etc...

Diesel prices at the pump have come off where I'm at however there continues to be a 60 cent/gallon spread at the pump between diesel and unleaded. However, there is also a 22 cent/gallon spread between heating oil and unleaded gas futures. The balance of that pricing is due to cash diesel basis prices, issues with transportation logistics, continued downed refineries, current distillate storage levels, and maybe a little "major" price gouging.

And to try to correlate price action and demand, and argue that price has no business increasing 100% since demand hasn't increased by 100% is a difficult correlation for me to follow. Price always overshoots to both the upside or the downside because it's never readily apparent when supply/demand fundamentals have fallen back in-line. Plus, in the interim there are so many other factors other than global and local supply/demand balances that traders look at when trading...

Ultimately, I agree with your assessment that there is some market manipulation being done by the majors which affects pricing, however, I can't agree with you that this is the sole reason for the price action we have seen this year. The various factors I have mentioned in previous posts do play an influence on price.

However, I am a believer in free markets and capitalism and do not believe it is wise to try and cap the majors or have them fix their pricing. Immediate relief would be offset by long term grief... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>We're on the exact same page. I am not obtuse enough to think that retail pricing is only set by some sort of conspiracy. While everything I've posted here is fact, I could help but play with the village idiot attempting to discuss something over his head. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So Paragon. . .what did the village idiot say that was in any way different from what you just agreed with?

[FreeorDie2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummertech:
After all, if we're going to continue this damn thread any longer, let's at least change the subject and start arguing about something else. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ok, pick something. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay. Real men shoot steel guns - not tupperware crap. Oh. We did that. As you were.....

Sean </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Glocks are great guns. I've owned a few different handguns, including Sig Sauers and Berrettas. While I loved my Sig I also really enjoy my Glock. When they first came on the market I was very skeptical of the "plastic gun", and never thought I'd buy one. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Glocks are indeed great weapons . . .and I love my Beretta 96. But for the fun of shooting, at least for me, there's nothing like a revolver. . .the S&W Model 629 is a great piece of hardware.

[KenP]

I love my Glock 26.

[ROX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FreeorDie2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummertech:
After all, if we're going to continue this damn thread any longer, let's at least change the subject and start arguing about something else. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ok, pick something. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay. Real men shoot steel guns - not tupperware crap. Oh. We did that. As you were.....

Sean </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Glocks are great guns. I've owned a few different handguns, including Sig Sauers and Berrettas. While I loved my Sig I also really enjoy my Glock. When they first came on the market I was very skeptical of the "plastic gun", and never thought I'd buy one. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Glocks are indeed great weapons . . .and I love my Beretta 96. But for the fun of shooting, at least for me, there's nothing like a revolver. . .the S&W Model 629 is a great piece of hardware. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I like revolvers too. Ruger Blackhawk .357
My latest is a Springfield 1911 .45, not a revolver, but it's realllllyyyy loud. I figure if I ever had to point it at someone trying to steal the bling machine, they'd wet themselves, and go the other way.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Oops.... Alec, read the PM. I just figured out how to see the cache and who made the administration changes and I am not sure he ever actually said it WASN'T him. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds like some exclusionary PM'ing is going on. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Wonder why?