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01-13-2004, 02:07 AM
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I spoke with one of our powdercoating subs today and got some info for all of you that are thinking about PC'ing your wheels.
BK-01 is a black PC that will give you a texture that is similiar(maybe a little smoother) to the factory brush guard. Very durable.
BK-05 is the semi-gloss matte finish that I've used on two sets of my wheels. It's not a dull matte finish, but it's also not a high gloss either. Like Goldy Locks would say "It's just right".
BK-08 is slightly more of a matte finish than the 05, but it's much more durable. I'll be using this one when I redo my set of wheels that got chewed up.
Hope this helps.
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01-13-2004, 02:07 AM
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I spoke with one of our powdercoating subs today and got some info for all of you that are thinking about PC'ing your wheels.
BK-01 is a black PC that will give you a texture that is similiar(maybe a little smoother) to the factory brush guard. Very durable.
BK-05 is the semi-gloss matte finish that I've used on two sets of my wheels. It's not a dull matte finish, but it's also not a high gloss either. Like Goldy Locks would say "It's just right".
BK-08 is slightly more of a matte finish than the 05, but it's much more durable. I'll be using this one when I redo my set of wheels that got chewed up.
Hope this helps.
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01-13-2004, 02:18 AM
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what is it costing to do 4 wheels...
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01-13-2004, 02:24 AM
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Depending on the shop, it's usually about $40-50/wheel. But remember you've got to get the wheel properly beadblasted first and that's about $25/wheel.
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01-13-2004, 02:50 AM
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So I guess the 400 - 425 the guy wants to charge me isn't really out of line then. Thanks for the info DRTY!
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01-13-2004, 03:48 AM
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I dropped off my wheels to be black powder coated last week at Crosslink Powder Coating here in Dallas. $75 to blast the 5 wheels. $25 per wheel to powder coat. I purchased an extra set of stock rims for $150 on ebay.
I picked out a finish that looked to be very close to stock and was described to me as being very durable. This guy also sent me to another shop that would paint the caps to match the powder coat job.
I should be picking them up this Wednesday. I will post pictures and a follow-up.
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01-13-2004, 03:56 AM
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I wish there was a place that specializes in powder coating around here... Best place I found is a guy that comes to work when he wants to and never wants to paint anything.
When he does pick up the gun though the work is extremely good. I am just happy to get it done and even at 425 + 100 for the rims I think it is money well spent for the happiness it will bring me.
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01-13-2004, 05:51 AM
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I did a search for powdercoating in your city and came up with zilch. So I started looking for metal fabricators and came across this:
Rideltin Powder Metal
201 East Carson Street,
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
(412) 390-1000
If that these guys don't powdercoat ask them if they know of anyone that does. And if that doesn't work try to do an MSN search for metal fabricators. Call them to see who they use for powdercoating. You're going to have to do some calling to find your answer. If you get a negative answer make sure to ask if they know where to point you.
Good luck.
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01-13-2004, 09:35 AM
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Whoever said you had to beadblast is selling you an extra service unless you're starting with a wheel that already has a finish on it. I started with just polished wheels, we "cleaned" the little dust that was on the new wheels off of them, and then powdercoated... 12,000 miles later, there are absolutely no problems and that's on and off road.....including a lot of mountain gravel roads.....
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01-13-2004, 10:53 AM
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Yeah, I've been told twice now that my wheels don't need to be bead blasted before coated.
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01-13-2004, 11:17 AM
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I have been told more times than once that they do need to be blasted. I was also told this by a guy that was selling 20 to 30 sets of black powder coated rims a week.
I personally feel as though one would get a much better bond with the stock H2 wheels being soda blasted first as they surely are very slick and have some sort of coating on them. And for only $75, I can afford to be wrong.
You can see mine on Saturday Det!!
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01-13-2004, 11:40 AM
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Sorry, but you're wasting money on some wheels because they are not all coated.......and if your powdercoater is worth his salt, he'll tell you that.......
I've done a lot of powdercoating for a show car's engine compartment in the past as well, and we never blasted anything that was not coated, only cleaned the part. Never a problem!
Spend your money if you want but I would ask some other powdercoaters their experience....
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01-13-2004, 12:44 PM
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The guy I talked to in Ft. Worth had originally told me that I'd need to have them blasted over the phone, and quoted me $100 to do so, which I agreed to pay.
When I got to him and showed him the rims, he then told me I didn't need to have them blasted.
That to me says he's being honest about it.
Hey Kyle,
Did you get new tires as well? I've decided that I'm waiting to get new tires until discount tire stocks them. They are $100's of dollars less than I've found 37's anywhere.
Oh, and about this weekend. We are planning on meeting at Gilmer around 9, or meet at Denny's near where 80 and I-20 merge around 7, have breakfast. Convoy to Gilmer around 8, and arrive around 9.
I can get better directions to the Denny's if you want to meet there.
Looks like we have 4 H2's, 1 Jeep, and 1 H1 coming from Hummerteam. Not including you, or anyone you bring.
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01-13-2004, 12:46 PM
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So you guys are saying all you need to do is wipe the dust off the rims and then do it?
The couple shops I talked to all mentioned stripping the rims down before coating them.
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01-13-2004, 12:53 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MisterEd:
Sorry, but you're wasting money on some wheels because they are not all coated.......and if your powdercoater is worth his salt, he'll tell you that.......
I've done a lot of powdercoating for a show car's engine compartment in the past as well, and we never blasted anything that was not coated, only cleaned the part. Never a problem!
Spend your money if you want but I would ask some other powdercoaters their experience....
Ed<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am going to defer to the professionals instead of forum posters on this one and go with "wasting" my $75 on what more than one powder coater has told me. Thanks for your input.
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01-13-2004, 12:58 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Detonate:
Hey Kyle,
Did you get new tires as well? I've decided that I'm waiting to get new tires until discount tire stocks them. They are $100's of dollars less than I've found 37's anywhere.
Oh, and about this weekend. We are planning on meeting at Gilmer around 9, or meet at Denny's near where 80 and I-20 merge around 7, have breakfast. Convoy to Gilmer around 8, and arrive around 9.
I can get better directions to the Denny's if you want to meet there.
Looks like we have 4 H2's, 1 Jeep, and 1 H1 coming from Hummerteam. Not including you, or anyone you bring.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I will have at least one non-H with me and my kids as well (21 months and 3). My parents are also going to meet us as well. (Wheeling has always been a family outing for us.) So I am unsure of pre-wheeling activities as I think we are going to have enough to do with just getting everyone together.
We were looking to arrive at the Gilmer location about 10AM. I am sure we will all find each other!
I was looking at getting a set of those Motorola walkie talkies, do you use them? If so what channel?
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01-13-2004, 01:06 PM
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I used new rims so there was minimal dust on them.....I have been told the biggest problem in coating wheels comes from brake dust not being totally cleaned off of "used" wheels.....so with my new ones there was no big deal......
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01-13-2004, 01:08 PM
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I have an FRS as well as a handheld CB. I keep both tuned to Channel 4.
If you could try and push it to get there by 9:30, we can wait at the Trail head airing down, etc.. for you guys to get there. We really wanted to be on the first trail by 9:30ish.
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01-13-2004, 01:17 PM
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Hey, your call but I can tell you in spending about $5,000 over the past several years on powdercoating I've never had a problem because I went to the folks who consistently won at car shows and found out who their powdercoaters were.......your guy who wants $75 is being "safe" with your money...
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01-13-2004, 01:42 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Detonate:
I have an FRS as well as a handheld CB. I keep both tuned to Channel 4.
If you could try and push it to get there by 9:30, we can wait at the Trail head airing down, etc.. for you guys to get there. We really wanted to be on the first trail by 9:30ish.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I would not suggest waiting on us in all honesty. Adding small kids into the mix generally does not mean we will run early.
What is an "FRS"?
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