wonder about the resale

[MAC]

In today’s classified ads.

03 H2, adv. 645 miles. Pewter. Leather. $70K.
03 H2 $83500. No detail.
98 H1. Open top. Silver. 30K. $45K.
97 H1. Wagon. White. 21K. $56K.

[sheag]

I think the part of the country you live in really impacts resale (as well as new car prices). For instance, I looked at Mac's post on what H2s are selling for used now in the classifieds, but here (state of Washington) they're selling for around 55K even with upgrade packages. I told a dealer yesterday that I had decided to go with another dealer to buy my Hummer and he offered me a price below MSRP, which is the first time I've heard of that for an H2. Unfortunately it's not the color I want. As I mentioned, the H2 I want has been sitting on the lot for a couple of weeks and it looks like it's not going anywhere. So I think maybe in SOME parts of the country the hyper bubble of interest is waning, supply is catching up to demand, and perhaps prices will stabilize to MSRP or even below. But I think resale value will continue to be very good, especially if the later models are priced much higher than the 2003. If they price the H3 in the range they're now pricing the H2, with the H2 priced closer to the Rover, I think you'll have a lot of people who would rather have a two year old H2 than a new H3. But who knows.

Shea

H2 is way better than Land Rover.

[MAC]

97 H1 21K miles. That means 3000 miles a year, thats NO FUN. If a vehicle is so good and so much fun, you don't just drive 3000 miles a year.
98 H1 30K, is 6K a year, you know you are not driving it much if only 6K a year, in fact that qualifies for insurance discount.
Or it could be they had problems. 3K-6K/yr generally is an auto I like to own, don't want to sell, but secretly I don't want to drive, only dirve it because I need to drive it once awhile. Numbers could tell stories.

In today’s(11/30) classified ads.
03 H2, adv. 645 miles. Pewter. Leather. $70K.
03 H2 $83500. No detail.
98 H1. Open top. Silver. 30K. $45K.
97 H1. Wagon. White. 21K. $56K.

[Steve R]

Shea...I think I love ya...but don't tell my wife!

MAC, I'm not sure what your point is with all the numbers and sales costs...but from my understanding, a new H1 is somewhere in the neighborhood of $117,000, and it apparently rose to this point having started at nearly half that almost a decade ago. Course, the H1 has massively evolved....each being fairly unique to eachother....so it's very hard to run comps.

I've seen the G500...and it is not even in the same class as an H2 in terms of suspension and capability. Sheesh...it's an Isuzu Trooper with chrome. Being an H2 forum, I'm gonna plead the "forest gump" and say "that's all I have to say about that". Let's not talk G-box.

Your probably right about the shock-value thing when they threw those high prices at us for survey purposes. But when they put together all their upgrades (engine, interior, nav system, etc)...they'll use it as an excuse to jack the price far more then the mere cost of the upgrades alone.

Today we see dealer-greed and supply/demand screwing with the prices. That'll pass eventually. The price increase I refer to will be based on the typical "redesigned" and "upgraded" qualities they'll be engineering into future models. Trust me, this is our fun....but this is their living.

We did not make any mistakes on buying now! The increases I speculate will likely elevate the value of our vehicles such that we MAY likely be able to sell our used H2's for close to what we paid for them. No matter...if we can own these toys, we're NOT counting on anything in terms of resale...we bought it for the smile-factor! God Bless America and our decadent life-style!

Unless gas prices go crazy...I think our H2's will enjoy the best value retention of any SUV being made today. The worst is probably the Land Rovers...a discovery today will be worth about half what you paid for it in about 3 years; bloody pathetic!

[HUMMERDOGG]

Steve R-

At the marketing studies you've been a part of, was there any mention of regular price increases for the remainder of the 2003 H2 model run?

-HUMMERDOGG

[Steve R]

Sorry HummDog...I'm afraid there's no info on that yet. The study was commissioned by Hummer and they were probing consumer interest for future innvoative concepts.

They showed us interior options, engine options, material options, exterior mod's...all sorts of stuff. Here's a kicker: to lighten the car and create a unique finish they were actually considering using anodized aluminum with various colors for the outside! The finish is stronger, but repairs are not as easy. Nobody liked it, so I doubt we'll see it. For that matter, everything I saw was pretty much conceptual and only subject to research...so count on NOTHING until it's on the showroom floor!

What I can tell you is that Hummer has found the crashed remains of a U.F.O and their scientist are reverse-engineering the alien technology to be adapted into future models! The future promises to be exciting! They will even have an auto-pilot robot, styled after various members of the Swedish Bikini Team...rumor has it these super-robots will be called "Hummergirls".

[MAC]

Aluminum panel body, just plain aluminum, no paint. I'll take that, trade in instantly. While they are at it, I want an expresso machine inside the Hummer.