Best All Around Tire? [Archive] - Hummer Forums by Elcova

MisterE

07-07-2006, 10:48 PM

Hey Guys,

I'm looking for the Best All around tire for my H3. I live in Michigan and split my time driving my H3 for the usual driving to the store and stuff but most my summer driving is my Solstice (Way to go GM 2 Kick Ass Vehicle's in 1 year). So I'm looking for something that will be good in the snow, then I don't get to do a ton of off roading but I would say when I do it is a mix of 30% trail 50% sand and 20% real muddy. I have had BF T/A in the past and found them to be not too rough on road and good enough off road but I would like something a bit more aggressive, thinking maybe BF M/T? Also I'm thinking stick with 33's on Adventure Package just to keep with the travel as they already rub at full compression?

Your wisdom to the novice off-roader would be appreciated!

Thanks Guys

PS

Something that doesn't break the bank would rock as well.

(Anyone want stock tires with 2K miles and 1 year old can get a hell of deal)

Ipedog

07-08-2006, 12:16 AM

1. Get tires in 315/75R16. If you're going to spend $$$ on tires get the size you REALLY do want.

2. You live in MI. As I understand it lots of snow and ice. Just like in MA. Due to this look for a tire that is siped. The BFG AT KO is siped. The BFG M/T is not. If you get the M/T plan on the extra $$ to have them siped.

3. I love my BFG AT KO's everywhere except for sticky mud. Everywhere else they totally rock. In sticky mud they suck. :mad:

4. Take a look at the Toyo M/T, and the Cooper STT. Both are really serious M/T tires and both are siped. If I could do it over again I would go in this direction. If you can live with the sticky mud suckyness then the BFG AT KO rocks.

Good luck. :)

KenP

07-08-2006, 12:22 AM

I'd go with a black rubber tire with a hole in the middle so you can put it on a rim. And I wouldn't get the rubberband model.

Just my opinion.;)

Agriv8r

07-08-2006, 12:30 AM

I'd go with a black rubber tire with a hole in the middle so you can put it on a rim. And I wouldn't get the rubberband model.

Just my opinion.;)

if you get the solid you can make your own hole? hows that sound??

Steve - SanJose

07-08-2006, 12:45 AM

I'm sure MisterE is not impressed...

KenP

07-08-2006, 12:59 AM

I'm sure MisterE is not impressed...He should be.;)

Fine. Get the Toyo M/T's or the KO's in 35". You'll be very pleased. The Toyo's are nice and quiet on the highway, too.

Steve - SanJose

07-08-2006, 01:43 AM

We'll let MisterE chime in.;)

S.

Arizona Hummerboy

07-08-2006, 01:51 AM

I am runing the BFG All Terrain T/A on my H2. I have not had in problems with them at all. I ran them in the snow up in Flagstaff Az on some Off Road trail's and they did great. I have not had in problem with them in mud yet.
The frist set of tires that came with the Hummer (BFG All Terrain T/A ) I replace them at 52,000 Miles. My friend that is a manager at Discount Tire Store, told me that I got 5,000 miles over what they should be for tire wear, and I did do a lot of Off Roading with them.

http://24.248.84.138/hummers/dec_2004_snowrun/AZHOGDecember262004SnowRunAlbum2/photos/photo35.jpg

NEOCON1

07-08-2006, 03:34 AM

Im trying to fit these on a H3 and not havin any luck :( :p ;) :D

HummerNewbie

07-08-2006, 03:45 AM

Im trying to fit these on a H3 and not havin any luck :( :p ;) :D

Maybe if you crank the torsion bars one more turn :p

KenP

07-08-2006, 05:29 AM

We'll let MisterE chime in.;)

S.Still waiting... still waiting.....

bparker

07-08-2006, 10:30 AM

The nitto terra grappler is nice. I am using the Toyo Mud Terrain tire at the moment and I hear the Toyo AT is nice too.

smh3

07-08-2006, 11:25 AM

i run a cooper stt on my h3 and cooper atr an my nissan titan. The sidewalls are thick, tough tires. all around i think the atr are the best. awesome in sno/ice. i have had all of the other major brands. but go with the 315 i didnt but wish i did.:)

Mike E

07-08-2006, 03:15 PM

Im trying to fit these on a H3 and not havin any luck :( :p ;) :D

Those are Michelin 40.00R57 XDC Earthmovers. :) It's going to take a lot of crankin' on those torsion bars to get those to fit!

springer

07-08-2006, 04:58 PM

I dont think you can go wrong with a BFG A/T, untill the BFG M/T's I just bought for my H3 the A/T has been the tires I ran on the last 4 trucks I have owned. They last a long time, handle any terrain very well, look good, and are tough as nails. IMO BFG's are the best out there. I have tried several others and havent found a better one yet.

MisterE

07-08-2006, 07:00 PM

Thanks all, from what I am hearin BFG T/A would continue to make me happy. I was always happy with them on my other rides and it sounds like a few others of you have found some other tires you like but many continue to like these as well.

Although I could go the billet route and get some blocks of rubber and create my own, then I could sipe them myself. (Actually I do have a family member with a rubber grooving tool for tires, who has done some very cool treads)...but for an on-road vehicle I think I'll pass;)

35"s How you guys doing with them? Like I said I have noticeable rubbing (not that I hear but I can see where they have) fom the stock 33's I would love the looks of the more aggressive T/A in 35" on my H3 but I don't want to lose travel. More info as you guys have lived with a 35" tire and off-roaded with it would be great!

Thanks to all.

BTW, those on the back of the semi-flat bed were my mine, I did a test fit and found they rubbed slightly more then a I cared for at full articulation. But man they looked killer:p

Ipedog

07-08-2006, 10:45 PM

Going to add in a few more tidbits of wisdom I learned today.

I had the opportunity to wheel with a TTORA group today. Lots of the trucks had the BFG AT KO's on and they, like myself, all had the same issue. Wet dirt clogged up the treads and turned the tires into slicks. Where there wasn't sticky mud... NO ISSUES. Where there was sticky mud... Slip Slidin Away. :mad:

One of the Tacos had the Cooper STT's on and I've got to tell you. That truck had zero issues with mud and climbed rock like a billy goat. :eek:

Take a serious look at the Cooper STT's before you make up your mind. Thats my $.02... Take it for what its worth. :rolleyes:

OBTW - Pics from this outing will be posted soon. :cool:

Idaho-Hummer

07-08-2006, 11:09 PM

OBTW - Pics from this outing will be posted soon. :cool:

ok, its been long enough

WHERE ARE THE PIC!!?!!?!!

POST NOW!!!:D

MisterE

07-09-2006, 12:46 AM

Yeah, you lazy bastards what about the 35"s....just kidding, thanks so much for the info it helps a ton for a novice like myself!

HURF

07-09-2006, 02:22 AM

I have wheeled for 25 yrs in Michigan

BFG A/Ts are hard to beat for an all around tire on a DD

Their only weak spot is Mud.

I have Interco trXus MTs on my CJ7 and like them but BFG A/Ts are better in the sand.

Interco is an American company.
http://www.intercotire.com/site35.php

Dont put no Yokohamas,Toyos, or Fujimamas on your American Iron:D

HURF

usetosellhummer

07-09-2006, 04:47 AM

great post. i soaked it all in and I think i will go BFG

Arizona Hummerboy

07-09-2006, 06:10 AM

I was told when I went through the Hummer Driving Academy, if you use the Traction Control while driving in deep mud, it will give you just the right amount of tire spin to help clean and free up the mud from your tires.

MisterE

07-09-2006, 07:29 PM

Yeah, I was wondering about that, in the sand I had Stabilitrak on one day and off one day (in 4 HI Locked ). I was surprised how much BETTER it did with OFF than on. I know sand and mud are opposite ends of the spectrum but I was just shocked on how different the vehicle behavied.

HummBebe

07-09-2006, 07:34 PM

BFG M/T KM"s are the best:D

Ipedog

07-10-2006, 01:24 PM

THis is what happens to KO's in the mud. PITA :mad:

http://ipedog.smugmug.com/photos/80730835-L.jpg

Just thought you should know...

HummerNewbie

07-10-2006, 02:23 PM

THis is what happens to KO's in the mud. PITA :mad:

Just thought you should know...

Tell you what, since we mainly have sand down here I will send a call tag for you to ship them down to me :D ;)

Ipedog

07-10-2006, 02:35 PM

Tell you what, since we mainly have sand down here I will send a call tag for you to ship them down to me :D ;)

Why? You already gots a set! (of 285's :rolleyes:)

HummerNewbie

07-10-2006, 03:35 PM

Why? You already gots a set! (of 285's :rolleyes:)

Ding...Ding...Ding :D

Wisha Haddan H3

07-24-2006, 07:40 PM

Going to add in a few more tidbits of wisdom I learned today.

I had the opportunity to wheel with a TTORA group today. Lots of the trucks had the BFG AT KO's on and they, like myself, all had the same issue. Wet dirt clogged up the treads and turned the tires into slicks. Where there wasn't sticky mud... NO ISSUES. Where there was sticky mud... Slip Slidin Away. :mad:

One of the Tacos had the Cooper STT's on and I've got to tell you. That truck had zero issues with mud and climbed rock like a billy goat. :eek:

Take a serious look at the Cooper STT's before you make up your mind. Thats my $.02... Take it for what its worth. :rolleyes:

Anyone run Cooper STTs in the snow?

I'm huge fan of BFG ATs offroad and in the snow and put them on my blazer, 4runner and wife's land cruiser. It would take a solid gold recommendation on their snow performance for me to ditch my ATs for them.

usetosellhummer

07-24-2006, 08:31 PM

looking at toyo open country 295's

NEOCON1

07-25-2006, 04:28 AM

" sticky mud suckyness "

thats a good one :D pretty funny discription :eek: :cool:

BlueHUMMERH2

10-04-2006, 06:14 AM

DURAMAX TIM

10-04-2006, 08:21 AM

I'm thinking about going w/ Maxxis bighorns in 255/85-16 (33.3" od).
the narrow tire works better in snow and some mud.

they also have a 305/70-16 which gives u a 12.5X33" tire.

I've had good luck w/ Maxxis tires and usually the price is real good, the 255s are $540 out the door.

wpage

10-04-2006, 12:22 PM

SOLSTICE LOOKS NICE You like?:fdance:

Ipedog

10-04-2006, 03:07 PM

I'm looking at probably getting the 35" BFG All Terrain T/A's again. I'm at 60K, and they still have some tread left (~15%), so I would almost like to get them again just because they last so long. Perhaps I'll go 37"...

What other tires would be good for on road snow? I'm looking at the TrXus A/T and M/T and Procomp A/T. The TrXus Mud Terrains seem to have a lot of siping...

TrXus M/T:
http://www.intercotire.com/piclib/590.jpg

TrXus A/T:
http://www.intercotire.com/piclib/575.jpg

Flash Off-Road Interco Tires Link (http://www.flashoffroad.com/features/Tires/Interco.html)
I know a guy who runs the Truxus MT's and is VERY happy with them. They seem to handle mud well and as an all around tire seem great.

As for the Truxus AT... Unless you're driving in sand all the time I would avoid. Mud? Those things will pack in and again you've got zero traction. Here's a REVIEW (http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT-Tires/TrXus_STS_AT.htm).

I Perhaps I'll go 37"...
For an H2 take a look at the Cooper STT or the Pro-Comp MT. Pro-Comp is coming into their buy 3 get 1 free season and the 37" MT is a brand new design. Due to this the Pro-Comp could be a difficult tire to pass on.

Thats my $.02. Take it FWIW. :D

BlueHUMMERH2

10-04-2006, 03:42 PM

Looks like best price on the Procomps is ~$250 each, with the get 3, 1 free deal. I don't know if the MT's have enough siping.

Thanks for the suggestions. My biggest area of concern is snow performance on road with good off-road performance, since I end up seeing snow about 5-6 months of the year when I'm up in NY.

Eww, Procomps are made by Cooper... :( Too many recalls on those.

BFG's are cheapest at Wally World, ~$230 installed.

I want to ask, if I have the tires mounted to the rims, and balanced, is there any reason why I can't just take the old rims off the vehicle, and put the new ones on myself? Does that have to be done at the shop?

Ipedog

10-04-2006, 05:08 PM

The Cooper STT has siping out the wazoo (thats a tech-nic-al turm :giggling:). MarineHawk and Alan06SUT have them on their H2's and from what I understand are VERY happy with them. CO Hummer has the new Pro-Comps.

Good luck with your search.

OBTW - There's no reason other than convenience why your truck needs to be there to have new tires mounted.

BlueHUMMERH2

10-04-2006, 06:27 PM

Thanks for the info Ipedog. I'll have to post some pics if I get something exciting installed... :D

I have also looked at the Parnelli Jones Dirt Grips today. I've found them comparably priced. Now I've got another choice! :popcorn:

http://www.desertrat.com/parnelli%20jones/pj_tread.JPG

NEOCON1

10-04-2006, 07:56 PM

those are some pretty sic tires :beerchug:

BlueHUMMERH2

10-04-2006, 11:34 PM

Ok, well I met a Land Rover fanatic today at Costco, and he was running the TrXus Mud Terrains. He said they are hard to balance, and don't wear very well... He had about 5 weights on each rim. And with only about 8,000 miles, they had worn significantly. So I'm not so sure about them.

But he also was like, "Your Hummer needs significant modifications, like a new front end and steering gear." :rolleyes:

PARAGON

10-05-2006, 01:37 AM

I want to ask, if I have the tires mounted to the rims, and balanced, is there any reason why I can't just take the old rims off the vehicle, and put the new ones on myself? Does that have to be done at the shop?:OWNED:

Yes, you are to f'ing stupid to possibly do something so simple yourself.