View Full Version : needing help with what kind and where ( LIFT KITS )???
superbeast
02-10-2005, 01:34 AM
i am buying a 04 h2 on friday ( first one for me ) and want to put like a 2 or 3 inch lift and more then likely 37 mtr's so i would like to know if there is any and if so what kind and best prices and where to get one , also looking to keep the stock ride or if better , it also has the rear airbags , if anyone has some pics that would be great also
superbeast
02-10-2005, 01:34 AM
i am buying a 04 h2 on friday ( first one for me ) and want to put like a 2 or 3 inch lift and more then likely 37 mtr's so i would like to know if there is any and if so what kind and best prices and where to get one , also looking to keep the stock ride or if better , it also has the rear airbags , if anyone has some pics that would be great also
RIC-H0
02-10-2005, 04:57 AM
No need for a lift in order to run 37's.
If you're gonna lift it, for a little more, you might as well go with a 6 inch and 38's.
IMO
Ric-H2
superbeast
02-10-2005, 10:46 AM
i was told you can run 37's stock but i would think a little more hieght would look alittle better thats why i was asking about a 2 inch
SOCRATES
02-10-2005, 12:33 PM
I have a 4'' Rancho lift with 37's. I agree with Ric though: I somewhat wish I had gone a little higher (6 inches max). For the most part though, I'm quite happy with the height.
-Justyn
timgco
02-10-2005, 12:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by superbeast:
i am buying a 04 h2 on friday ( first one for me ) and want to put like a 2 or 3 inch lift and more then likely 37 mtr's so i would like to know if there is any and if so what kind and best prices and where to get one , also looking to keep the stock ride or if better , it also has the rear airbags , if anyone has some pics that would be great also <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
good luck on Friday, and welcome.
As for the 37's, they are correct, I run 37's without a lift and love the look. I thought about lifting my 03 when I had it. but one trip to Moab and decided to keep that center of gravity lower. if this will be for looks, Socrates has a great set up. From what I here, that lift rides very well for adding height.
you could also add a couple of inches by different torsion keyes up front and bag spacers for the rear. That would get you your two to three inches of lift.
SOCRATES
02-10-2005, 03:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by timgco:
if this will be for looks, Socrates has a great set up. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Looks it is! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
timgco
02-10-2005, 04:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SOCRATES:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by timgco:
if this will be for looks, Socrates has a great set up. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Looks it is! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I wondered if you took it off road. I am curious to find out how it handles on the off camber and climbing situations. Still love that look though. ... if only my garage opening were higher...
superbeast
02-10-2005, 04:26 PM
so is there any 2 inch lifts out there , dont want to go up to 4 inch , if i crankup the torsion bars it would ride stiffer so thats the reason for wanting a lift and that way it will still fit in my garage
JamesT
02-10-2005, 04:40 PM
6" FabTech
I put the Rancho 4" lift on my H2 and I am very happy with the look and ride quality. My friend installed the FAB Tech 6" lift, and his rides very good as well. We measured the two trucks side by side and the Fabtech lift was only 1" higher than the Rancho lift. The tires were both 37's, so it really boils down to preference of manuafacturer.
drmiles
02-10-2005, 05:11 PM
Sky Jacker 5.5
Nitto Mud grappler 38 x 18 x 15.5
drmiles
02-10-2005, 05:15 PM
Another pic
SOCRATES
02-10-2005, 05:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by timgco:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SOCRATES:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by timgco:
if this will be for looks, Socrates has a great set up. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Looks it is! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I wondered if you took it off road. I am curious to find out how it handles on the off camber and climbing situations. Still love that look though. ... if only my garage opening were higher... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Tim,
As of yet, no. I'm fairly new to this area and I'm not even sure where to take it, to be quite honest.
PhillyPhreak
02-10-2005, 09:02 PM
Soc...those tires almost look small with that lift! Amazing that the H2 can make 37's look small. Do you need to do any other mods if you lift? Driveshaft? Does a lift give you driveline vibes?
SOCRATES
02-10-2005, 10:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhillyPhreak:
Soc...those tires almost look small with that lift! Amazing that the H2 can make 37's look small. Do you need to do any other mods if you lift? Driveshaft? Does a lift give you driveline vibes? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree, sometimes they look quite small. Nope, no other modifications had to be done. I know the kit required some light welding, but the dealership took care of everything. No vibration at all, and it rides quite well.
-J
HummerLV
02-10-2005, 10:44 PM
i have the 4" rancho and 37's and love it, it handles all i can throw at it just fine.
PhillyPhreak
02-10-2005, 11:09 PM
Did any of you guys re-gear?? What was the best price on the lift? The dealer installed it for you?
superbeast
02-11-2005, 10:46 AM
anyoneelse know about a 2 inch lift that way it fits in the garage
drmiles
02-11-2005, 01:05 PM
Discussed regearing a couple of times.. (Eaton was coming out with 5:13). Most of the power loss is evident @ highway speeds > 80mph. Other wise didn't feel necessary. Now I have a 7,000# trailer to pull, thinking about supercharging to compensate..
PhillyPhreak
02-11-2005, 02:29 PM
yea but if you re-gear you will gain a lot of the power back....cheaper than going FI.
Edit:
Or better yet do both!!!!
drmiles
02-11-2005, 07:47 PM
Yeah, may do both.
Regearing would help more on the low end than @ the top. Truck has plenty of power under 50mph (Breathless performance package, powerflash programmer, extreme flow exhaust). Its driving 70mph in a 6,000 lb brick with a 7,000 lb trailer up hill that its lacking. Needs more horses for that Supercharging now, trade for duramax desiel in 2006.
DH22G
02-11-2005, 10:07 PM
talk to Adam in co... he has the rancho 2 in with 37s and the thing is SICK
PhillyPhreak
02-11-2005, 11:54 PM
Interesting drmiles....I'm use to jeeps...and beleive me you really feel the difference in the low end once you go to 33's....you need 4.56 or 4.88 when you go to a 35's in a wrangler.
drmiles
02-12-2005, 02:29 AM
Yeah I agree both options would Increase my towing ability. My theroy is you can never have too much horsepower!!! So I'm looking into SC's now and regearing later if needed. Also want a front locker added when and if I regear.
It was suggested the 4:10 to 4:88 would not be noticeable. So I am waiting for the 5:13'S to come out.
superbeast
02-13-2005, 08:37 PM
who is adam from co and how do i get ahold of him to find out where and what kind to get of this size
JamesT
02-17-2005, 04:05 PM
6" FABTECH
JamesT
02-17-2005, 04:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JamesT:
6" FABTECH </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Opps
Longhorn
02-17-2005, 05:46 PM
I like the lift but the tires look way too small. What the point of adding 6 inches but no larger meats? I know you didn't care for the ride with the Nittos but it just looks sort of unfinished.
I run the same tires you have with no lift or rubbing. I'm not trying to stir anything up. Don't take this the wrong way. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
JamesT
02-17-2005, 07:14 PM
As a matter of fact, today Toyo 38 MT's are being slapped on. I'll post some pics tormorrow. BTW...you are 100% right!
JamesT
02-17-2005, 07:34 PM
These.
Salt Lake City HUMMER
02-21-2005, 02:57 AM
gotta go with a Fabtech 6", and 40x15.50r22 there is no sweeter look.
Salt Lake City HUMMER
02-21-2005, 03:00 AM
and a comparrison look.
JamesT
02-22-2005, 01:10 PM
Mine now with new BIGGER SHOES! What do you think now Longhorn?
Longhorn
02-22-2005, 03:41 PM
James-
Just when I thought you couldn't sink any lower into Blingdom, you go and to do some thing like this. . .
AND totally redeem yourself. It looks much better. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
1BADH2
02-25-2005, 01:49 PM
I was looking to buy the Sky Jacker because of no cutting or welding but it looks like Dr. Miles has the stock front end rack that I want to get rid of but on Salt Lakes and James they appear to have lost that can some one shine some help me out on this?
JamesT
02-25-2005, 02:12 PM
No cutting or welding on mine. Not sure what you mean about the front end but my stuff is stock. ???????
drmiles
02-25-2005, 07:18 PM
What do you mean by Stock Front end RACK?<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 1BADH2:
I was looking to buy the Sky Jacker because of no cutting or welding but it looks like Dr. Miles has the stock front end rack that I want to get rid of but on Salt Lakes and James they appear to have lost that can some one shine some help me out on this? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
1BADH2
02-25-2005, 07:30 PM
Dr. I'm talking about how the front end dosen't sit level with the back.Mine is way off and just wondering if the lift takes that away?
drmiles
02-26-2005, 07:25 AM
Simply adjust the torsion bars upward. I think mine is too high in the front now.. those pics were shortly after I had it done. I noticed that if I added the winch it sagged even more, so I cranked the torsion bars a couple of turns.
However If I had it to do over I would go with the Fabtech lift and add upgraded trailer arms, instead of stock.
drmiles
02-26-2005, 08:16 AM
Sitting level
timgco
02-26-2005, 11:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DH22G:
talk to Adam in co... he has the rancho 2 in with 37s and the thing is SICK </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just saw th post. there is no lift onthat truck, unless he did this very recently. We both have the 37" BFG MT's and they fit fine. his rub a bit when flexed though. He has offset rims causing that.
timgco
02-26-2005, 12:07 PM
Has anyone installed the extended torsion key set up with rear spacers. I guess this 2" lift would make a little more room.
superbeast
02-26-2005, 01:30 PM
drmiles is yours witout a lift and what size of tires and what kind ?? oh yea hows the ride over stock
1BADH2
02-28-2005, 01:22 PM
Thanks dr I think i'm goin with the Fabtech
drmiles
02-28-2005, 03:16 PM
5.5 Skyjacker lift, Nitto Mudgrappler 38 x15.5 x 18. Ride is ablut the same some vibration from the tire lugs at speeds 0 -10 mph. Loud humming with windows down. Windows up I barely hear the tires. Does seem to get louder as the wear more. No vibration, pulling, shaking, and no problem balancing or with wear. Overall best mod I've done. Love it more each time I see it.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by superbeast:
drmiles is yours witout a lift and what size of tires and what kind ?? oh yea hows the ride over stock </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
DH22G
03-02-2005, 12:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DH22G:
talk to Adam in co... he has the rancho 2 in with 37s and the thing is SICK </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just saw th post. there is no lift onthat truck, unless he did this very recently. We both have the 37" BFG MT's and they fit fine. his rub a bit when flexed though. He has offset rims causing that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Last time i saw him he said he did.. he prototyped rancho 2in lift... or maybe iam mistaken.... but it is sick cant wait to see that sut at moab!
Kevin B
03-02-2005, 01:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Has anyone installed the extended torsion key set up with rear spacers. I guess this 2" lift would make a little more room. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I asked the asst. Manager at O.R.W. about those. He said they have tried two of them and they had very bad luck. Something about the cam not holding http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif.
D.Wiggs
03-03-2005, 01:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by superbeast:
i am buying a 04 h2 on friday ( first one for me ) and want to put like a 2 or 3 inch lift and more then likely 37 mtr's so i would like to know if there is any and if so what kind and best prices and where to get one , also looking to keep the stock ride or if better , it also has the rear airbags , if anyone has some pics that would be great also </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I have a 6" Fabtech with 38x15.50 Mud Grapplers. LOVE IT!!! Was originally considering a 2" myself, but now would never go back!
Enjoy your new rig!
D.Wiggs
superbeast
03-08-2005, 01:47 PM
so whos lift rides the best and without chopping up the frame or other places
?????
drmiles
03-08-2005, 01:58 PM
Suspension lifts are merely spacers in between the suspension components. They don't change the ride. They do change cornering due to increased center of gravity!!! If you tighten torsion bars for more tire clearance then of course the ride stiffens.
Fab Tech and Skyjacker offer bolt on no cutting kits. I think Rancho is the same.
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