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Today my check engine light came on so I checked the code and it read a PO171 and a PO174 ....which to my reference is something about a lean condition. Has anyone else seen these codes before or have any reference to them?
Thanks. (Been reading the forums for about a year, but never really post...thanks for all the tips and advice from all the great members here!) |
Today my check engine light came on so I checked the code and it read a PO171 and a PO174 ....which to my reference is something about a lean condition. Has anyone else seen these codes before or have any reference to them?
Thanks. (Been reading the forums for about a year, but never really post...thanks for all the tips and advice from all the great members here!) |
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<HEAD><TITLE>Service Information</TITLE></HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF"> <form name='topNavForm' action='/servlets/CellHandler'> <table width='100%' align='CENTER'> <tr> <td width='25%' slign='LEFT'> </td> <td width='50%' align='CENTER'> Document ID# 743995 2003 HUMMER H2 </td> <td width='25%' align='RIGHT'> </td> </tr> </table> </form> <HR> </FORM> <H1>DTC P0171 or P0174</H1> <A NAME="ss1-743995"> <A HREF="#ss1-743995"> <H5>Circuit Description</A></H5> The powertrain control module (PCM) controls the air/fuel metering system in order to provide the best possible combination of driveability, fuel economy, and emission control. Fuel delivery is controlled differently during Open and Closed Loop. During Open Loop, the PCM determines fuel delivery based on sensor signals without oxygen sensor (O2S) input. During Closed Loop, the O2S inputs are added and used by the PCM to calculate short and long term fuel trim fuel delivery adjustments. If the O2S indicate a lean condition, fuel trim values will be above 0percent. If the O2S indicate a rich condition, fuel trim values will be below 0percent. Short term fuel trim values change rapidly in response to the heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) voltage signals. Long term fuel trim makes coarse adjustments in order to maintain an air/fuel ratio of 14.7:1. If the PCM detects an excessively lean condition, DTC P0171 or P0174 sets.</P> <A NAME="ss2-743995"> <A HREF="#ss2-743995"> <H5>Conditions for Running the DTC</A></H5> <UL TYPE="BULLET"> <LI>DTCsP0101, P0103, P0108, P0135, P0137, P0141, P0200, P0300, P0410, P0420, P0430, P0440, P0442, P0443, P0446, P0449, P0506, P0507 or P1441 are not set. </LI> <LI>The engine coolant temperature (ECT) is between 75-115°C (167-239°F). </LI> <LI>The intake air temperature (IAT) is between -20 to +90°C (4-194°F). </LI> <LI>The manifold absolute pressure (MAP) is between 26-90kPa (3.7-13psi). </LI> <LI>The vehicle speed is less than 137km/h (85mph). </LI> <LI>The engine speed is between 400-3,000RPM. </LI> <LI>The barometric pressure (BARO) is more than 74kPa (10.7psi). </LI> <LI>The mass airflow (MAF) is between 5-90g/s. </LI> <LI>The fuel level is more than 10percent. </LI> <LI>The throttle position (TP) is less than 90percent. </LI>[/list] .</P> <A NAME="ss3-743995"> <A HREF="#ss3-743995"> <H5>Conditions for Setting the DTC</A></H5> <UL TYPE="BULLET"> <LI>The average long term fuel trim cell value is above 23percent. </LI> <LI>All of the above conditions are present for 6seconds. </LI>[/list] <A NAME="ss1-727820"> <A HREF="#ss1-727820"> <H5>Action Taken When the DTC Sets</A></H5> <UL TYPE="BULLET"> <LI>The control module illuminates the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) on the second consecutive ignition cycle that the diagnostic runs and fails. </LI> <LI>The control module records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostic fails. The first time the diagnostic fails, the control module stores this information in the Failure Records. If the diagnostic reports a failure on the second consecutive ignition cycle, the control module records the operating conditions at the time of the failure. The control module writes the operating conditions to the Freeze Frame and updates the Failure Records. </LI>[/list] <A NAME="ss1-727824"> <A HREF="#ss1-727824"> <H5>Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC</A></H5> <UL TYPE="BULLET"> <LI>The control module turns OFF the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) after 3consecutive ignition cycles that the diagnostic runs and does not fail. </LI> <LI>A current DTC, Last Test Failed, clears when the diagnostic runs and passes. </LI> <LI>A history DTC clears after 40consecutive warm-up cycles, if no failures are reported by this or any other emission related diagnostic. </LI> <LI>Clear the MIL and the DTC with a scan tool. </LI>[/list] <A NAME="ss4-743995"> <A HREF="#ss4-743995"> <H5>Diagnostic Aids</A></H5> <UL TYPE="BULLET"> <LI>The system will go lean if an injector is not suppling enough fuel. </LI> <LI>A lean condition could be present during high fuel demand. </LI> <LI>Use a scan tool in order to review the Failure Records . If an intermittent condition is suspected, refer to Intermittent Conditions . </LI>[/list] <A NAME="ss5-743995"> <A HREF="#ss5-743995"> <H5>Test Description</A></H5> The numbers below refer to the step numbers on the diagnostic table.</P>
<TR> <TH ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Step</P> </TH><TH ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Action</P> </TH><TH ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Values</P> </TH><TH ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Yes</P> </TH><TH ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> No</P> </TH></TR> <TR> <TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S01"> 1</P> </A></TD><TD ALIGN="left" VALIGN="top" ROWSPAN=1> Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check-Engine Controls?</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1> --</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Step2 </P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Diagnostic System Check - Engine Controls </P> </TD></TR> <TR> <TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S02"> 2</P> </A></TD><TD ALIGN="left" VALIGN="top" ROWSPAN=1> <FONT COLOR=brown> <H4>Important</H4> If any DTCs other than P0171 or P0174 are set, refer to those DTCs before continuing</P> </FONT></P>
Does the scan tool indicate that the long term fuel trim is greater than the specified value?</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1> 23% </P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Step3 </P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Diagnostic Aids </P> </TD></TR> <TR> <TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S03"> 3</P> </A></TD><TD ALIGN="left" VALIGN="top" ROWSPAN=1>
Does the scan tool indicate that the parameter is within the specified range and fluctuating?</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1> 200-800mV</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Step4 </P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Step5 </P> </TD></TR> <TR> <TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S04"> 4</P> </A></TD><TD ALIGN="left" VALIGN="top" ROWSPAN=1>
Did you find and correct the condition?</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1> --</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Step7 </P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Step6 </P> </TD></TR> <TR> <TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S05"> 5 </P> </A></TD><TD ALIGN="left" VALIGN="top" ROWSPAN=1>
Did you find and correct the condition?</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1> --</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Step7 </P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Fuel System Diagnosis </P> </TD></TR> <TR> <TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S06"> 6 </P> </A></TD><TD ALIGN="left" VALIGN="top" ROWSPAN=1>
Did you find and correct the condition?</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1> --</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Step7 </P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Symptoms - Engine Mechanical in Engine Mechanical</P> </TD></TR> <TR> <TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S07"> 7</P> </A></TD><TD ALIGN="left" VALIGN="top" ROWSPAN=1> <FONT COLOR=brown> <H4>Important</H4> After repairs, use the scan tool Fuel Trim Reset function in order to reset the Long Term Fuel Trim.</P> </FONT></P>
Did the DTC fail this ignition?</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1> --</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Step2 </P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Step8 </P> </TD></TR> <TR> <TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S08"> 8</P> </A></TD><TD ALIGN="left" VALIGN="top" ROWSPAN=1> Observe the Capture Info with a scan tool.</P> Are there any DTCs that have not been diagnosed?</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1> --</P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> Go to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List </P> </TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1> System OK</P> </TD></TR> </TABLE> <form name='bottomNavForm'> <hr> <table width='100%' align='CENTER'> <tr> <td width='25%' slign='LEFT'> </td> <td width='50%' align='CENTER'> Document ID# 743995 2003 HUMMER H2 </td> <td width='25%' align='RIGHT'> </td> </tr> </table> </form> </BODY></HTML> |
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<HEAD><TITLE>Service Information</TITLE></HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF"> <form name='topNavForm' action='/servlets/CellHandler'> <table width='100%' align='CENTER'> <tr> <td width='25%' slign='LEFT'> </td> <td width='50%' align='CENTER'> Document ID# 1537547 2003 HUMMER H2 </td> <td width='25%' align='RIGHT'> </td> </tr> </table> </form> <HR> </FORM> <H1>97-05 Vehicles with 4.8 5.3 5.7 and 6.0 Gen III V8 Engines and Misfires on One Bank - kw CEL diagnostics driveability DTC P0171 P0172 P0174 P0175 P0300 P0301 P0302 P0303 P0304 P0305 P0306 P0307 P0308 #PIP3056 - (Jul 12, 2004)</H1> 97 - 05 Vehicles with 4.8 5.3 5.7 and 6.0 Gen III V8 Engines and Misfires On One Bank .</P> The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the described symptoms in the PI.</P> <A NAME="ss1-1537547"> <A HREF="#ss1-1537547"> <H5>Condition/Concern:</A></H5> Check Engine Light with a P0300 due to 2 - 4 cylinders misfiring on the same bank of the engine. DTCs P0171, P0172, P0174 or P0175 may also set for the misfiring bank. </P> <A NAME="ss2-1537547"> <A HREF="#ss2-1537547"> <H5>Recommendation/Instructions:</A></H5> If the published misfire diagnostic does not isolate the cause, perform the following suggestions as necessary:</P>
.</P> Please follow this diagnosis process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed. If these steps do not resolve the condition, please contact GM TAC for further diagnostic assistance.</P> <A NAME="ss3-1537547"> <A HREF="#ss3-1537547"> <H5>Models:</A></H5> (00 - 05 Cadillac Escalade - C6 and K6) and (02 - 05 Chevrolet Avalanche - C1, C2 K1 and K2) and (99 - 05 Chevrolet Silverado - C1, C2 K1 and K2) and (00 - 05 Chevrolet Suburban - C1, C2, K1 and K2) and (00 - 05 Chevrolet Tahoe - C1 and K1) and (99 - 05 GMC Sierra C1, C2 K1 and K2) and (00 - 05 GMC Yukon - C1, C2, K1 and K2) and (03 - 05 Chevrolet Express G1, G2, G3, H1, H2 ) and (03 - 05 GMC Savana G1, G2, G3, H1, H2 ) and (04 - 05 Buick Rainier S1, T1 ) and (03 - 05 Chevrolet Trail Blazer EXT S1, T1 ) and (03 - 05 GMC Envoy XL XUV S1, T1 ) and (03 - 05 Hummer H2) and (04 - 05 Cadillac CTS-V DB) and (98 - 02 Chevrolet Camaro FB) and (97 - 04 Chevrolet Corvette YB) and (98 - 02 Pontiac Firebird FB) and (04 - 05 Pontiac GTO VB) </P> .</P> </p> <table width='100%'> <tr> <td align='LEFT' width='778'> <font size='1'> GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information. </font> </td> <td align='CENTER' width='42'> </td> <td align='CENTER' width='167'> <font size='2'> WE SUPPORT VOLUNTARY TECHNICIAN CERTIFICATION </font> </td> </tr> </table> <P ALIGN='CENTER'> © Copyright General Motors Corporation. All Rights Reserved. </P> <form name='bottomNavForm'> <hr> <table width='100%' align='CENTER'> <tr> <td width='25%' slign='LEFT'> </td> <td width='50%' align='CENTER'> Document ID# 1537547 2003 HUMMER H2 </td> <td width='25%' align='RIGHT'> </td> </tr> </table> </form> </BODY></HTML> |
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href="http://204.89.220.10:9001/servlets/BlobShtml?ShtmlFile=1565073&psdid=293&evc= sm#ss2-1565073"> <H5>Recommendation/Instructions:</A></H5> Check for leaking intake manifold seals around the intake ports. The intake gasket seals may be leaking around the intake ports, causing a lean condition. Many times they will leak around the bottom side of the port, making it a challenge to detect the vacuum leak. The technician may also note lower than normal MAF readings if the seals are leaking around the ports. If leaking intake gasket seals are found, they should be replaced. The intake plenum should also be checked for warpage that may cause an uneven clamping pressure of the seal. If the plenum is found to be warped, it will need to be replaced with new seals. Intake Manifold Cylinder Head Deck Flatness specifications are located in SI. </P> .</P> Please follow this diagnosis process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed. If these steps do not resolve the condition, please contact GM TAC for further diagnostic assistance.</P><A name=ss3-1565073><A href="http://204.89.220.10:9001/servlets/BlobShtml?ShtmlFile=1565073&psdid=293&evc= sm#ss3-1565073"> <H5>Models:</A></H5> (99 00 01 02 03 C1 C2 C3 K1 K2 K3 LR4 LM4 LM7 LQ4 LQ9 Chevrolet Silverado Tahoe Suburban Avalanche Express Trailblazer ) and (99 00 01 02 03 C1 C2 C3 K1 K2 K3 LR4 LM4 LM7 LQ4 LQ9 GMC Sierra Savana Yukon Denalli Envoy) and (02 03 K6 K7 K8 Cadillac Escalade) and (03 Hummer N2) </P> .</P> </P> <TABLE width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR> <TD align=left width=778><FONT size=1>GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information. </FONT></TD> <TD align=middle width=42></TD> <TD align=middle width=167><FONT size=2>WE SUPPORT VOLUNTARY TECHNICIAN CERTIFICATION </FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <P align=center>© Copyright General Motors Corporation. All Rights Reserved. </P> <FORM name=bottomNavForm> <HR> <TABLE width="100%" align=center> <TBODY> <TR> <TD width="25%" slign="LEFT"></TD> <TD align=middle width="50%">Document ID# 1565073 2003 HUMMER H2 </TD> <TD align=right width="25%"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></FORM></BODY></HTML> |
just an fyi in case someone else runs accross this code in the future.....
Problem was the leaking intake gasket specified in Klaus's posts. Thanks again Mr. Klaus! Nothing $500 won't fix! ![]() |
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