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speednr1 05-03-2007 01:08 PM

where is the motion(pbrake) wire for nav?
 
does anyone know which wire is the navigation motion wire that makes the nav system only work while stopped?

speednr1 05-04-2007 05:15 PM

Re: where is the motion(pbrake) wire for nav?
 
no one has put a switch in there wire to allow functions of the nav while moving?

HUMTECH 05-04-2007 06:50 PM

Re: where is the motion(pbrake) wire for nav?
 
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
A1
OG
1044
Class 2 Serial Data
A2
--
--
Not Used
A3
PU
493
Rear Seat Audio Enable Signal
A4-A7
--
--
Not Used
A8
TN
511
Left Front Low Level Audio Signal (+)
A9
D-GN
1947
Left Front Low Level Audio Signal (-)
A10
BK
1946
Right Rear Low Level Audio Signal (-)
A11
D-BU
546
Right Rear Low Level Audio Signal (+)
A12
BK/WH
1851
Ground
B1
OG
340
Battery Positive Voltage
B2
--
--
Not Used
B3
PK
314
Radio On Signal
B4-B5
--
--
Not Used
B6
GY/BK
2334
Radio Mute Signal
B7
--
--
Not Used
B8
BN
599
Left Rear Low Level Audio Signal (+)
B9
D-GN/WH
1547
Left Rear Low Level Audio Signal (-)
B10
OG/BK
1546
Right Front Low Level Audio Signal (-)
B11
L-GN
512
Right Front Low Level Audio Signal (+)
B12
--
--
Not Used
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Connector Part Information
  • OEM: 12064799
  • Service: 15305996
  • Description: 12-Way F Micro-Pack 100 Series (BK)
Terminal Part Information
  • Pins: C, E, H - M
  • Terminal/Tray: 12146447/3
  • Core/Insulation Crimp: E/C
  • Release Tool/Test Probe: 12031876-1/J-35616-6 (BN)
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Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
A-B
--
--
Not Used
C
BARE
1573
Drain Wire (U2K)
D
--
--
Not Used
E
D-GN/WH
817
Vehicle Speed Signal
F-G
--
--
Not Used
H
D-GN/WH
368
Right Audio Signal (+) (U2K)
J
BN/WH
367
Left Audio Signal (+) (U2K)
K
BK/WH
372
Audio Common (U2K)
L
OG/BK
2061
Navigation Mono Audio Signal (-) (UE9)
M
PK/BK
2062
Navigation Mono Audio Signal (+) (UE9)
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Connector Part Information
  • OEM: 6098-2714
  • Service: See Catalog
  • Description: 1-Way F Coaxial Connector (L-GN)
Terminal Part Information
  • Terminal/Tray:See Terminal Repair Kit
  • Core/Insulation Crimp:See Terminal Repair Kit
  • Release Tool/Test Probe: See Terminal Repair Kit
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Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
A
BK
--
Coax

speednr1 05-04-2007 09:50 PM

Re: where is the motion(pbrake) wire for nav?
 
E
D-GN/WH
817
Vehicle Speed Signal
I assume E is right next to F correct? I also assume this is the pin behind the nav system?

HUMTECH 05-05-2007 12:06 AM

Re: where is the motion(pbrake) wire for nav?
 
E next to F, correct. Right behind radio/nav head. Wire color dark green and white.

f5fstop 05-05-2007 12:19 AM

Re: where is the motion(pbrake) wire for nav?
 
I won't say disabling this signal will not allow the system to be changed while driving; however, on most of the newer Navs GM is using, the VSS is only used to help supplement the GPS signal (similar to aftermarket Nav systems). There is a good chance the serial data link is used to tell the Nav system not to allow all functions to work.
I would be curious if disabling the VSS does anything, but set a code. Good luck.

HUMTECH 05-05-2007 01:14 AM

Re: where is the motion(pbrake) wire for nav?
 
Ya I would be curious as to what it does as well. I think f5 may be right on the class 2 data from the BCM sending data but am not sure.

speednr1 05-05-2007 12:00 PM

Re: where is the motion(pbrake) wire for nav?
 
I will let you know, this is how I have done it in previous cars.


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