Attn: gun experts

[Lucifer]

I'd recommend the .500 S&W Ghetto Hunter. Make sure you get the sling option. I don't think you would have anymore problems with that thing slung around your shoulder.

[Mr. I - Man]

Bersa 45. cal is a nice mini pistol with some knock down power!
Bersa Thunder Ultra Compact/Mini Pistol

Manufacturing
Make: Bersa
aka: Firestorm, Eagle
Country: Argentina
MSRP: $425

Ballistics
Caliber: 9mm, .40 SW, .45 ACP
Capacity: 10/13 round mag
Action: DA/SA

Dimensions
Type: Compact Pistol
Weight: 27.51 oz (780g)
Length: 6.7" (170 mm)
Barrel: 3.6" (91 mm)

Design
Frame/Finishes:
Matte, Satin Nickel, Duotone, Gold
Safety:
Intergral Locking System, Maunual, Firing Pin, Decock
Sights:
fixed, with front sight integral to the s

Or H&K P13 if you want some very small that can 13 rounds down range!!

[RIC-H0]

You want a little knock down power, Go with a T/C Contender in a 7-30 Waters. Better make it a good shot though...It's a single shooter!

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by RIC-H0

Sorry, Didn't mean to dog your gun.

Yes you did. And I'm very hurt.
And now it's personal.
Not that I'm agreeing with you, but do I have to use that small plasticky POS when we have our invetitable duel at 20 paces?

[RIC-H0]

Originally Posted by MarineHawk

Not that I'm agreeing with you, but do I have to use that small plasticky POS when we have our invetitable duel at 20 paces?

Can we make it 10 paces...I'm not a very good shot!

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by RIC-H0

Can we make it 10 paces...I'm not a very good shot!

Yes, but only if I get to use a combination of the the 12-gauge flame thrower ammo and the "Macho Gaucho" ammo: http://www.firequest.com/catalog/12_...mmunition.html
in one of these: http://www.serbu.com/shorty.htm

[RIC-H0]

Originally Posted by MarineHawk

Yes, but only if I get to use a combination of the the 12-gauge flame thrower ammo and the "Macho Gaucho" ammo: http://www.firequest.com/catalog/12_...mmunition.html
in one of these: http://www.serbu.com/shorty.htm

Yeah...Blow a couple of the 12GA Flash Thunder Grenade Ammo indoors. 'Cause it says it's safe for indoor use!!!

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by RIC-H0

Yeah...Blow a couple of the 12GA Flash Thunder Grenade Ammo indoors. 'Cause it says it's safe for indoor use!!!

There's a lot of fun stuff on that site. Someday, I've got to try out the flame throwing ammo. Maybe after I up my life insurance policy.

[RIC-H0]

Originally Posted by MarineHawk

There's a lot of fun stuff on that site. Someday, I've got to try out the flame throwing ammo. Maybe after I up my life insurance policy.

Just make sure you borrow your neighbors shotgun to try all these cool shotshells out!
No, you can't borrow one of mine for the weekend!

There's always the magnesium flame throwing shotshells, so you can make sure they're cooked well done all the way through!

[Arizona Hummerboy]

As a ex-police officer, I would say if you have to carry a gun, I would say take a hand gun training course on self defense. If you have to draw down on someone and point a gun at them, you must be ready and willing to shoot that person if you have to, and be willing to shoot to kill if it come's down to it.

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by Arizona Hummerboy

As a ex-police officer, I would say if you have to carry a gun, I would say take a hand gun training course on self defense. If you have to draw down on someone and point a gun at them, you must be ready and willing to shoot that person if you have to, and be willing to shoot to kill if it come's down to it.

Do you recommend the 12 gauge flame thrower rounds or the Macho Gaucho rounds for confronting inner-city gang members?

[RIC-H0]

Originally Posted by Arizona Hummerboy

As a ex-police officer, I would say if you have to carry a gun, I would say take a hand gun training course on self defense. If you have to draw down on someone and point a gun at them, you must be ready and willing to shoot that person if you have to, and be willing to shoot to kill if it come's down to it.

I completely agree...
Never point your gun at anything that you aren't willing to kill!
Education is the key to safety, and practice is mandatory!

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by Arizona Hummerboy

As a ex-police officer, I would say if you have to carry a gun, I would say take a hand gun training course on self defense. If you have to draw down on someone and point a gun at them, you must be ready and willing to shoot that person if you have to, and be willing to shoot to kill if it come's down to it.

BTW: I appreciate your service in the police force. It's just as valuable as military or other national service.

[Racer-X]

Originally Posted by MarineHawk

BTW: I appreciate your service in the police force. It's just as valuable as military or other national service.

X2

And thanks Arizona, I'll look into one in my area. Also going to look into a permit to carry concealed but I bet that won't happen here in Ca.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by Racer-X

I would never pull a gun on someone who had one pointed at me.......

I'll reiterate my original suggestion then. Why do you want to carry a gun then?

If you are not willing to utilize your weapon in the exact moment that you should, you don't need to carry one and need to find alternate means of protection. Carrying a handgun for protection is not for everybody and those that cannot utilize the tool effectively will only be a target themselves.

Action beats reaction every single time. Knowing what your actions can and should be in most given situations (ie-training) is the key to surviving an encounter.

Aside from that, I personally carry .40SW and nearly all of my personal defense handguns are of the same caliber.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by PhilD

I'd say that would be a good time to do so, you could be dead in a few seconds... Of course spotting it coming will help you better deal with it.

I wouldn't carry a loaded pistol in my pocket, period. Carry it safely in a holster.

Some counties in CA are not too bad for giving out CCW licenses, forget LA.

If you concerned about the legalities of carrying, remember that a revolver doesn't leave any spent casings at the scene.

Shot placement is as important as caliber, but a 357 mag revolver or any decent pistol in .40 0r .45 will generally stop as good as anything else.

Shot placement is very important to a degree. Meaning, don't worry about trying to shoot in the head or heart. COM shots, or hitting the trunk of the body, with multiple rounds is the best way to walk away from a deadly confrontation.

Many "shootouts" result in a hugely higher percentage of missed shots than hits.

[Racer-X]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

I'll reiterate my original suggestion then. Why do you want to carry a gun then?

I'll clarify - I would never attempt to PULL a gun on someone who had one pointed at me. That would be asking to get shot. I would have no problem pulling the trigger if I thought my life was in danger.

[Racer-X]

Originally Posted by PhilD

I wouldn't carry a loaded pistol in my pocket, period. Carry it safely in a holster.

How about a pocket holster? Anything else is impractical for my work.

I'm not familiar with pocket holsters - I'm guessing they would slow down the draw?