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05-24-2006, 12:21 AM
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Re: Student Faces Criminal Charges For Teacher Jokes
Falwell is an idiot. As for the kid, make him work at GM when he graduates. That will be punishment enough for anyone. 
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05-24-2006, 01:57 AM
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Re: Student Faces Criminal Charges For Teacher Jokes
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Falwell is an idiot. As for the kid, make him work at GM when he graduates. That will be punishment enough for anyone.
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lol! I wonder what his myspace page would say about Wagoner? 
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05-24-2006, 10:58 AM
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lol! I wonder what his myspace page would say about Wagoner? 
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He did cut his pay from 4+ million a year to 2+ million a year, so he's trying.  I bet the family has to shop at Walmarts and the local Salvation Army store. A fifty percent pay cut is pretty steep. 
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05-24-2006, 02:12 PM
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Re: Student Faces Criminal Charges For Teacher Jokes
Interesting on the First Amendment front considering a teacher or principal could be recognized as a public figure or even an involuntary one. Though, I believe there is specific laws (prolly judgemade) for defamation and libel concerning student blogging and social sites such as myspace.
Myspace=  anyway, there is proposal in Congress to ban access to those kinda sites on educational properties. Not relevent to this case but I hope they pass it. No parental supervision, a stomping ground for criminals and a waste of educational funds IMO.
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05-24-2006, 02:31 PM
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Myspace=  anyway, there is proposal in Congress to ban access to those kinda sites on educational properties. Not relevent to this case but I hope they pass it. No parental supervision, a stomping ground for criminals and a waste of educational funds IMO.
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Exactly...punish the many for the stupidity of the few. Maybe if we started holding kids and parents accountable for their own actions...you know that wonderful thing called "Personal Responsibility"...then maybe they would stop being dumbasses and putting themselves into those situations. Enforce a "you made your bed, now sleep in it" law that prevents these moronic parents from suing because they were too lazy to teach their kids better then that.
I say leave myspace up everywhere. Require each student about 12 and older make a page to see what they do with it. Worst case it would just be an act of darwinism. The dipsh1t who decides to meet too many older people online doesn't live long enough to produce dipsh1ts of their own. Seems like it would make the world a better place if you ask me. Weed out the dumb ones.
Disclaimer: Not defending what the "predators" are doing in any way. Just find it hard to feel sorry for the parents or the kids.
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05-24-2006, 04:05 PM
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Re: Student Faces Criminal Charges For Teacher Jokes
Quote: "punish the many for the stupidity of the few. Maybe if we started holding kids and parents accountable for their own actions...you know that wonderful thing called "Personal Responsibility"
I couldn't agree more. Far too many parents (people for that matter) want to blame someone else or something else for everything & anything that goes wrong with their life's. Instead of taking responsibility for their actions and for those whom they are in care of.
Like Shaggy, I'm not defending the predators on Myspace or the predators in general that can be found anywhere on the web.
The best that you can do for those you care about is teach them right from wrong and start teaching it to them at a young age. Kids are smarter then you give them credit for and wiser sooner than you think.
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05-24-2006, 05:52 PM
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Exactly...punish the many for the stupidity of the few. Maybe if we started holding kids and parents accountable for their own actions...you know that wonderful thing called "Personal Responsibility"...then maybe they would stop being dumbasses and putting themselves into those situations. Enforce a "you made your bed, now sleep in it" law that prevents these moronic parents from suing because they were too lazy to teach their kids better then that.
I say leave myspace up everywhere. Require each student about 12 and older make a page to see what they do with it. Worst case it would just be an act of darwinism. The dipsh1t who decides to meet too many older people online doesn't live long enough to produce dipsh1ts of their own. Seems like it would make the world a better place if you ask me. Weed out the dumb ones.
Disclaimer: Not defending what the "predators" are doing in any way. Just find it hard to feel sorry for the parents or the kids.
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So you are saying that myspace should be allowed in schools?
I think not. Parents are unable to monitor their children while their children are in school. And to believe that all children should have the street/web smarts to protect themselves in an evolving skill of mind fawk would be naive. Predators are crafty in provoking the primitive brains of the young and honing in on their insecurites to gain control of their victims. Allowing a child- and yes- I mean 18 and under, to go on any social site such as that unsupervised is ludicrous. And anyone that is familiar with the already waning teacher to child ratios in any school would realize the impossibilty of proper supervision under those circumstances. Even if the socializing is safe and harmless- A school and it's properties funded by the government and tuitions should not be used for social activities that are not approved. The internet is gaining to be a reality and I certainly would not want my children socializing on myspace (mostly needy single people with a tendency to whore their useless personal info for attention- IMO  ) just like I would not want them socializing in a local bar- not with my money or their study time.
Like I mentioned before, the proposed law has nothing to do with this case as the student probably posted from home- without parental supervision.
This site is interesting though:
http://www.ratemyteachers.com/
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05-24-2006, 07:02 PM
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Re: Student Faces Criminal Charges For Teacher Jokes
I am saying that if you are allowed to browse the internet at school...then you should be allowed to browse myspace. Kids don't need to have street smarts if their parents do and are good parents. My parents never "monitored" what I did...but they still told me what I could and couldn't do...and 9 times out of 10 I listened. Fear in the hand of a good parent is a wonderful thing. 
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