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Uh..how about I had a front axle seal replaced as well....prior to the front going out. Maybe you should go re-read. 
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Re-read what?
If I'm wrong, get one of the techs here or even Fstop to post what you have had done to the truck under warranty through a VIN check.
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06-07-2006, 08:57 PM
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Re-read what?
If I'm wrong, get one of the techs here or even Fstop to post what you have had done to the truck under warranty through a VIN check.
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WTF??? You trip me out. I go through huge lengths to make this sh!t up.
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=5992
F5....you still have my VIN?....the replacement was done back at the end of April...I would hope it's out there yet.
Guess I have to prove Paragon wrong again just like that whole HumbebeDaddy crap. 
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06-07-2006, 10:05 PM
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WTF??? You trip me out. I go through huge lengths to make this sh!t up.
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=5992
F5....you still have my VIN?....the replacement was done back at the end of April...I would hope it's out there yet.
Guess I have to prove Paragon wrong again just like that whole HumbebeDaddy crap. 
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PM me your last 8 of the VIN.
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06-07-2006, 10:32 PM
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Sorry HI, but the front diff was not replaced, just the seal. In addition, you didn't have the lapping compound problem, or the dealer did the repair incorrectly. With lapping compound, the entire diff housing needs to be replaced, not just the ring/pinion gear.
This is your complete service history, and I don't know of any dealer that would not submit a claim for a front diff replacement.
I do have to say, you had some problems with the radio, can I ask what the problems were?
Also, have to ask about the front crossmember.  They covered that under warranty? That sounds like that Hummer dealer did you a good turn. Usually body parts like that are not replaced under warranty since not much can happen to them from a warranty standpoint.
Here's the information on the rear axle lapping compound problem, and it states to replace the entire rear diff due to the contamination. " Remove the axle cover pan and inspect for black discolored fluid. The fluid may show sand particles. Closely inspect the inner diameter of the ring gear for clumps of a black sandy residue. This residue is lapping compound that was not sufficiently cleaned from the axle during the manufacturing process. If these conditions are found, the complete axle assembly should be replaced, because all moving parts of the axle will be affected by the lapping compound residue.
Important Note: The lapping compound issue will not be present on vehicles built after August 10, 2005. Rear axle noise conditions on vehicles built after this date should be diagnosed and repaired as needed using procedures found in SI.
Use part number below or any number that these supersede to. The Broadcast Code, HL1 or HL2 for example, can be found in VIS under Vehicle Component.
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Standard Axle Assembly
FD3, HL1, HU5 or JN2
15837002
Electronic Locking Axle Assembly
EX5, FD4, HL2, HU6 or JN3
15837003"
5GTDN13666810XXXX
04/25/2006 414203 # F2383 - RING GEAR AND PINION - REAR DIFFERENTIAL - REPLACE 19285 miles
04/25/2006 414203 # Z5001 - VIP FREIGHT/POSTAGE REIMBURESEMENT 19285 miles
04/25/2006 414203 # E1730 - CROSSMEMBER, FRONT SUSPENSION - REPLACE 19285 miles
04/25/2006 414203 # B4156 - MIRROR, OUTSIDE REAR VIEW - LEFT - REPLACE 19285 miles
04/25/2006 414203 # Z7906 - 6+ DAY COURTESY TRANSPORTATION 19285 miles
02/09/2006 412216 # F1441 - SEALS, FRONT DIFFERENTIAL OUTPUT SHAFT - FRONT - LEFT - RE 12718 miles
02/09/2006 412216 F Z7200 - CORPORATE PARTS RETURN REIMBURSEMENT 12712 miles
02/09/2006 412216 # B0764 - SHIELD AND/OR LINER - FRONT WHEELHOUSE PANEL - RIGHT - REP 12718 miles
02/09/2006 412216 # J9995 - CUSTOMER CONCERN NOT DUPLICATED 12718 miles
01/13/2006 411547 # R0760 - RECEIVER, RADIO - REMOVE, REPAIR, AND REPLACE 12505 miles
01/13/2006 411547 # Y0063 - SB 05115 - CUSTOMER SATISFACTION PROGRAM - REAR WASHER PUM 11144 miles
01/11/2006 410414 # R0754 - RADIO RECEIVER-RETURN TO AC/DELCO ESC 12502 miles
12/01/2005 410414 # B1880 - FENDER, FRONT - RIGHT - ALIGN 8965 miles
12/01/2005 410414 # R0755 - RADIO RECEIVER-RETURN TO AC/DELCO ESC-INCOMPLETE EXCHANGE 8955 miles
06/02/2005 A06478 I Z7000 - PRE-DELIVERY INSPECTION - BASE TIME 0 miles
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Re: HIHUMMER = HUMMERLESS after Paragon/RauchCreek
F5..I don't understand this....
04/25/2006 414203 # F2383 - RING GEAR AND PINION - REAR DIFFERENTIAL - REPLACE 19285 miles
My rear diff is in PA being replaced right now??? At leasts that's what they are telling me....
Ok...so like I said in my thread original I'm still learning what these parts are....so sue me if I mistaken the word "bearing" for "pinion" or whatever. So...they replace my Ring and Pinion in the front differential....? is that right?
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06-07-2006, 10:57 PM
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220. 221. Whatever it takes....
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06-08-2006, 02:15 PM
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220. 221. Whatever it takes....
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06-07-2006, 11:08 PM
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Re: HIHUMMER = HUMMERLESS after Paragon/RauchCreek
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F5..I don't understand this....
04/25/2006 414203 # F2383 - RING GEAR AND PINION - REAR DIFFERENTIAL - REPLACE 19285 miles
My rear diff is in PA being replaced right now??? At leasts that's what they are telling me....
Ok...so like I said in my thread original I'm still learning what these parts are....so sue me if I mistaken the word "bearing" for "pinion" or whatever. So...they replace my Ring and Pinion in the front differential....? is that right?
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If the rear diff is being replaced right now, there will be no claim for the replacement, until the job is finished. At which time they will claim the same labor operation number F2383.
If, and I say if because I'm not in the dealer, you had the lapping compound issue and didn't realize it until 19K miles, and the dealer only replaced the ring/pinion set, that could be why your rear diff failed again. If the first rear diff was a complete assembly replaced, the dealer would have claimed F3200 Rear Differential Assembly (Complete) - Replace.
It almost sounds like this is the problem. Maybe with all those new radios you couldn't hear the rear axle whining.  (Only kidding...)
The only other thing would be if it wasn't the lapping compound problem, the first tech may not have set up the ring/pinion gear correctly, and they failed a few thousand miles later.
To be completely honest to you and everyone else, we DO NOT have a problem with rear diffs; other than the lapping compound issue. The rear diff is strong enough so that if something breaks it is usually the axle shaft (weakest point in the link), versus the front diff. 
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Re: HIHUMMER = HUMMERLESS after Paragon/RauchCreek
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F5..I don't understand this....
04/25/2006 414203 # F2383 - RING GEAR AND PINION - REAR DIFFERENTIAL - REPLACE 19285 miles
My rear diff is in PA being replaced right now??? At leasts that's what they are telling me....
Ok...so like I said in my thread original I'm still learning what these parts are....so sue me if I mistaken the word "bearing" for "pinion" or whatever. So...they replace my Ring and Pinion in the front differential....? is that right?
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No, that's completely wrong. Your REAR diff was replaced on 04/25/2006
Your front diff hasn't been touched. You had a front axle seal replaced and that's about as close to the front diff as it got.
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06-08-2006, 02:22 AM
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Re: HIHUMMER = HUMMERLESS after Paragon/RauchCreek
Ut-Oh HI, your lies have finally caught up with you. I told you this was a bad idea!
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06-08-2006, 08:31 PM
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Re: HIHUMMER = HUMMERLESS after Paragon/RauchCreek
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No, that's completely wrong. Your REAR diff was replaced on 04/25/2006
Your front diff hasn't been touched. You had a front axle seal replaced and that's about as close to the front diff as it got.
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Personally, I don't see why there is a need to persecute the woman over semantics. Do you feel the need to be precise and 100% correct at all times and have no tolerance for others ignorance or lack of nomenclature?
This is just lame. 
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Re: HIHUMMER = HUMMERLESS after Paragon/RauchCreek
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WTF??? You trip me out. I go through huge lengths to make this sh!t up.
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=5992
F5....you still have my VIN?....the replacement was done back at the end of April...I would hope it's out there yet.
Guess I have to prove Paragon wrong again just like that whole HumbebeDaddy crap. 
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Huge lengths? No. Made it up, well, yeah. Anyone with half a brain would read that thread and wonder what the fck you were on when you tried to slide that BS by.
You were all over the place, ring gear, bearings, second R&P was broke. 
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