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07-31-2006, 09:09 PM
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Re: Front leveling = Rear sagging???
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Aww Bebes - you're gonna make me blush!
I just got off the phone with Chad Hall and had an opportunity to speak with him about the H3 race truck and what he thought would be best for our situation.
It turns out that they run the race H3 with the following mods: V8 torsion bars (from the upcoming V8 model), a 1" body lift, 35's, and heavy duty Rod Hall shocks w/remote resovoirs. Thats it according to Chad.
When I told him what we did (Paragon, Rubicon, Moab), and what we wanted (More ground clearance), Chad seemed to think that shackles and a t-bar crank made the most sense, performance wise first and $$$ wise second. Another option to do as a second stage after the shackles would be to have the springs re-bent to add more lift. This is somthing that most spring shops are able to do according to Chad.
I am contacting one of my TTORA friends to see of they can help me fab up a set. If someone from the Forum can fab these up and is interested in helping out that would be a plus! From this conversation with Chad it seems we are on the right track.
Oh, he also said he was NOT impressed with the lift kit currently available for the H3 saying it is not made for off road use. Interesting... 
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Same here, been told by several people not to lift the truck. I'm so glad he agrees. Awesome Job Rob!!! (hey that rhymes) 
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07-31-2006, 09:26 PM
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Re: Front leveling = Rear sagging???
Can someone explain the difference between a Suspension lift and a Body Lift???
And under what circumstances would you do one vs. the other?
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07-31-2006, 09:38 PM
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Re: Front leveling = Rear sagging???
A body lift is where you place spacers between the frame of the truck and the body (the part that you ride in  ). It lifts the body higher into the air. It would give you more clearance at the rocker panels (if you modded the rocker rails to be closer to the body again) but would not solve the frame to ground clearance issue.
A suspension lift raises the entire vehicle (frame AND body) higher into the air.
Does this help?
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07-31-2006, 09:42 PM
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Re: Front leveling = Rear sagging???
Of course
Thanks! 
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07-31-2006, 11:24 PM
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Re: Front leveling = Rear sagging???
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A body lift is where you place spacers between the frame of the truck and the body (the part that you ride in  ). It lifts the body higher into the air. It would give you more clearance at the rocker panels (if you modded the rocker rails to be closer to the body again) but would not solve the frame to ground clearance issue.
A suspension lift raises the entire vehicle (frame AND body) higher into the air.
Does this help?
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quick addition - depending on the size of the wheel wells (or with trimming) you can usually fit larger tires, which improves your frame clearance somewhat.
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07-31-2006, 11:26 PM
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Re: Front leveling = Rear sagging???
Thanks Wisha, but it would probably take a lot of trimming to go the next size up from 35's. 
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07-31-2006, 11:47 PM
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Re: Front leveling = Rear sagging???
Ipedog
Thanks for the race truck suspension info
When will we get a V8? Or do I have to buy the T-bars that go with it?

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08-01-2006, 01:10 AM
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Re: Front leveling = Rear sagging???
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Ipedog
Thanks for the race truck suspension info
When will we get a V8? Or do I have to buy the T-bars that go with it?

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I get the feeling that the V8 and the T-Bars that go with it are currently made of that special material known as UNOBTANIUM 
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08-01-2006, 06:07 AM
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Re: Front leveling = Rear sagging???
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Can someone explain the difference between a Suspension lift and a Body Lift???
And under what circumstances would you do one vs. the other?
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Hockey pucks between the frame and body. 1-3". More clearance for tires, no more clearance for suspension. Would help if you could get it to fix 37's, which won't happen w/a 1 or probably even a 3" body lift.
Suspension involved either springs, shackles, hangers, etc - anything under the frame. Best for moving the frame up - works well for tires as well as frame.
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