I was cruzing the Jeeps unlimited forum

[XM DUDE]

just for fun looking for opinnions on the H3 and on the grand cherokee I found the GCvs H3 thread and it turns out that some admitted the H3 kicks ass off road, I thout that was funny.

[Huck BB62]

Originally posted by Grandman:
I own both . The H 3 will not follow my Grand , but my Grand is a long way from stock . 2 Det lockers . Multi port V 8 . 7 " lift and 6 point cage .

Iv ran a new Jeep commander , off road they have nothing coming . The H 3 in stock form can not keep up with a Rubicon due to it having 2 lockers but other then that model the H 3 can out off road any other stock jeep .

There were only three choices, the new Powerwagon, the H3, or the Unlimited Rubicon. I test drove all three. I needed a third vehicle, especially suited for driving to work 45 miles through the mountains every day. The Dodge, awesome. Eats gasoline like an F-15 on afterburner though, a guy in town told me that first hand. The Rubicon, I could get everything I wanted for the trails. I love the concept. One trip back to back with the H3 though and as much as I wanted the Rubicon, there's no freakin' way I was going to drive that sucker 90 miles in the twisties everyday, especially after I put 33" tires on it like I wanted. Yeah, the Rubicon very well might have a slight edge offroad, but not off the showroom, neither's a Grand. I do a good bit of offroading but I do even more driving. To me, especially for the insurance, initial outlay and all other things considered, the H3 is particulary suited to my needs. The H3's wide, low stance, even considering that it has ancient old leaf springs out back does quite nicely in the twisties. If I drove a Rubicon or Grand (can you put 33-35" tires on one?) up and down the mountain the way I drive the H3, I'd roll it or punch out a corner into the woods. As I've said before, handling is paramount, in addition to going offroad well.

If I want to anything more serious than the H3 offroad, I'll build a rock rig, using anything else is just going to cost cubic dollars or have me riding around in a hammered jacked up rig that's not very much fun to drive to work. Tall sucks, and sucks BAD.

I've wheeled a long time and nuthin' but nuthin' sucks worse than side hilling when all's at risk. I can winch/drag over an object but sidehilling is the not something that I like doing in any lifted vehicle at all. I COMPLETELY understand the need for roll cages and have built a few full cages myself. I'd rather not need them. I've seen lots and lots of rolled Jeeps, and most of them were lifted.

Here's a question for people here:

Will you be able to put a limited slip or locker in the front end of an H3? With that, a stronger tie rod, and upgraded axle shafts, what then?

[Thai]

Originally posted by DRTYFN:
JU = ultimate gheyness & thin skin.

GoldenJeeper has terminal butt hurt and is easily enraged.

You're kidding, right?! Look in the mirror! You and Dennis are worst than JU!

Worst case of denial...ever!

[KenP]

Originally posted by DennisAJC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Thai:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
JU = ultimate gheyness & thin skin.

GoldenJeeper has terminal butt hurt and is easily enraged.

You're kidding, right?! Look in the mirror! You and Dennis are worst than JU!

Worst case of denial...ever! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why are you involving me in this Charlie? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Because you're a bad, bad man.

[NJHummerGuy]

They are up to 9 pages now!!!!!!!

[Thai]

Originally posted by Alec W:
Dude, you got owned. I would STFU if I were you

Here is the thread:

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/t...2046062045/p/3

Cracks me up....

[DRTYFN]

I predict MAJOR butt hurt for the little guy.

[Anonymous]

Too bad it's past his bed time, now I have all this popcorn and no entertainment. Oh well, no school tomorrow so he'll be back.

[Grandman]

Id agree for mtn roads the H 3 would be the answer . While my Grand is pretty stable and ok to drive on the road it certainly will not handle like the stock H3 .

I owned a 98 TJ at one time and would not care to make that a daily driver for any distance even stock .

[timgco]

Originally posted by DennisAJC:
Back on track,

That is impressive seeing the support for the H3 on JU. Definitely well deserved.

Now if we can get the "Psycho Moab Crew" to invite a few H3'ers for some rock fun.


I know of TWO H3 that are going so far!


That in itself WILL be an impressive video.

[ETD]

Thanks for the info. Enjoyed reading through them. Which model is the Jeep WK?

[Thai]

Hate to say it, but one of the H3's big bonus points for me is that GM/Hummer is willing to go ALL THE WAY with the H3. Similar to what Jeep did with the Jeep Rubicon. Hummer is willing to put on true meaty all-terrain tires (triple sidewall!), awesome 4:1 transfer case, and a rear locker. It's worth it IMHO. Hummer did not half-ass it, like the upcoming FJ Cruiser.

[Huck BB62]

I've never seen a benz offroad either. I have seen Discos out though.

[WranglerMan]

Two of the guys in our offroad club have sold their Wranglers for H3s and I think they are all pretty happy. I've ridden in Mike's and I like everything about the H3 except for the engine - H3 probably will be my next ride.

[MyxH3]

they seemed to think that it doent have any power at all. I have no problems at all with the power sure it would be nice to have more but for more power you get less mileage.

[XM DUDE]

Originally posted by Huck BB62:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Huck BB62:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by XM DUDE:
With the traction comtrol system, you don't need to do that as it reacts seemlessly and quickly.

In 4lo, the traction control is off. I've already spun it on a really steep climb. I'm used to a front locker from the last Scout I built. I'd really like on on the H3. Problem is, in low range, it'll break parts unless they're beefed up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My manual says "No". So, on page 10 of the Hummer capabilities guide supplied to me when I bought the H3 with Adventure pack, it says on item #3. 4LOW LOCK

- Creates a totally different set of gear ratios with the transmission reducing the ratio of each gear by 2.64:1 or 4.03:1 (based on the transfer cases's gearing)

-Traction Constrol (TC) engine control is automatically disabled.

Lemme know how I'm wrong, I've got thick skin and am not easily irritated and love it when someone teaches me something about my equipment that I did not know or clears up any misconceptions I may have.

DOH!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Well I stand corrected, I guess in 4 low they figured you don't need it.

[Thai]

Originally posted by Huck BB62:
In 4lo, the traction control is off. I've already spun it on a really steep climb. I'm used to a front locker from the last Scout I built. I'd really like on on the H3. Problem is, in low range, it'll break parts unless they're beefed up.

Hmmm...this is interesting. While we were testdriving the H3 this weekend, we asked two salesman this question...when you lock the rear locker in 4-lo, IS TRACTION CONTROL still active on the front axle??

Both salesman said, "YES". So, what's the real answer here??

[Huck BB62]

Originally posted by XM DUDE:
With the traction comtrol system, you don't need to do that as it reacts seemlessly and quickly.

In 4lo, the traction control is off. I've already spun it on a really steep climb. I'm used to a front locker from the last Scout I built. I'd really like on on the H3. Problem is, in low range, it'll break parts unless they're beefed up.

[KenP]

It is nice to see the H3 given the respect it's due. Especially by those guys.

[Thai]

Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Thai:
Both salesman said, "YES". So, what's the real answer here??

Yes. You little prick. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the answer...but i could have sworn that i was asking the previous poster since he off-roads with his H3. And i am ONLY interested in the H3. When i have an H2 question, then i will ask you. Are we clear? It's pretty simple.

Try and keep your mouth shut next time, OK?! Shhh...don't talk until spoken to. Your momma never taught you that?! Shhh!

You're still pissed about our last conversation?? Here's a tissue for your tears.