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09-09-2006, 03:47 AM
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Re: Which Bumper Winch is the Best
You all have been so awesome. Thanks for all the great input.
I want to get the synthetic line for the winch. Where can I go to switch this over. A 4x4 shop? I think I will be getting a Warn 9.5xp. What all is needed to do this? What brand of synthetic line is recemended?
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09-09-2006, 05:16 AM
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You all have been so awesome. Thanks for all the great input.
I want to get the synthetic line for the winch. Where can I go to switch this over. A 4x4 shop? I think I will be getting a Warn 9.5xp. What all is needed to do this? What brand of synthetic line is recemended?
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Rockstomper.com has the Amsteel stuff at a pretty reasonable price.
Phil,
You think with a 9500 lb winch you need to go with a 3/8" line? That's what I have on my multi-mount, but I'm think it might be overkill. The rockstomper site says that the equivalent width to the 9500 cable (5/16th) is a 5/16" rope line which is already stronger. Why go to 3/8ths? On the 9500xp you won't get 100' to fit with 3/8th rope. You'd have to drop down the length to 80'.
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09-09-2006, 05:20 AM
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Oh, an FWIW - DRTY has the best bumper out there. I've seen in up close a zillion times. Best looking, most solid one I've seen. Also, I think it has the best clearance of all of them.
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09-09-2006, 06:02 AM
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Re: Which Bumper Winch is the Best
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Oh, an FWIW - DRTY has the best bumper out there. I've seen in up close a zillion times. Best looking, most solid one I've seen. Also, I think it has the best clearance of all of them.
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09-10-2006, 04:10 PM
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09-10-2006, 07:17 PM
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As far as I can tell, the DRTY bumper is much like a Unicorn  . Its been written about for years but no one's ever been able to prove they actually exist. 
For all the accolades and apparent demand, I don't believe it has ever been commercially available??
The new H2O guy stuff looks very promising. I need a rear bumper solution.
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09-12-2006, 08:55 PM
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Rockstomper.com has the Amsteel stuff at a pretty reasonable price.[/quote[About the going rate by the time you add a hook, although I don't particularly like the ones they offer.
5/16" is fine and about the same strength as 3/8" steel cable.
Not sure i'd say it is overkill. You shouldn't shock load a winch line, but it will happen from time to time and the extra strength of a 3/8" line may be important in those instances.
Not sure about that, but I know people use 3/8" x 100' with the 9.5XP, I'm pretty certain that's what Paragon's got on his also.
I'd personally go for 3/8" line, but it is definitely not necessary and 5/16" will do the job.
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Yeppers, I have 100' of 3/8" spooled up and also have a 50' extension.
I had no considerations of doing anything less than 3/8" and I run the Masterpull line which is rated at 23.5K lbs. You would have to get the 7/16" in Amsteel to get the same kind of weight rating.
Also, Masterpull and Trail Duty stood behind their line (not saying no other mftrs do) when I had a failure during Hurricane Katrina.
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09-12-2006, 11:44 PM
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Also, Masterpull and Trail Duty stood behind their line (not saying no other mftrs do) when I had a failure during Hurricane Katrina.
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What was the failure? Did you try to pull something that was 23. 6K lbs? 
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12-17-2006, 04:56 PM
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Re: Which Bumper Winch is the Best
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Shop around, prices vary considerably. A syn line made from Amsteel Blue will be about the cheapest, but is not a very heat resistant line, although with correct use that should not be an issue. Some of the lines available use more heat resistant lines, but you pay for them. MasterPull, Viking, X-Line are all good products, but there are plenty of others.
An entry level 3/8" by 100' line with a sling hook will set you back around $250 or so, a line made from a more expensive rope can be anything from $300 up.
You will also need an aluminum fairlead, which should set you back around $40-50.
You can change the line over yourself, it is really simple.
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Why do you need an aluminum fairlead with syn line?
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12-18-2006, 12:55 AM
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Because a syn line can get pinched between the rollers on a roller fairrlead and get damaged. Steel hawse fairleads are generally not smooth enough, but you could finish one smooth and polish it up.
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Would you consider a new WARN steel fairlead smooth enough? It seems very smooth to me but I haven't compared it to an aluminum one yet.
I like that its black 
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